I've been to the Milwaukee Public Market as well as the Napa Oxbow Public Market and both have the same good design: large rectangular building with perimeter food stalls as well as center food stalls and dining areas on both ends, allowing for good pedestrian traffic flow. It seems like OKC developers try to reinvent the wheel. Keep it simple with easy access. Poor design can doom a project.

I'd certainly still try them. I'm pretty picky about my donuts. I couldn't care less about the fufu crap Theo's touts about their donuts. It's a donut. It's 100% indulgent with zero health qualities. To me, if you like Missy's, The Donut Man or even a Daylight Donut FRESH out of the fryer, then this is not anywhere close to those.

But, I can't stand Hurt's or Brown's Bakery and plenty of people love those places. I was just shocked nobody in the office liked Theo's at all. One of the suit and tie professionals in the office literally spit it out (which was a bit dramatic). I just consider them extremely weak - especially for the price and high brow approach.

So since my favorite donuts in the city are Belle Kitchen and Hurts I'll probably like these too?

The Milwaukee Public Market was/is highly publicly subsidized.

I've been to the Milwaukee Public Market as well as the Napa Oxbow Public Market and both have the same good design: large rectangular building with perimeter food stalls as well as center food stalls and dining areas on both ends, allowing for good pedestrian traffic flow. It seems like OKC developers try to reinvent the wheel. Keep it simple with easy access. Poor design can doom a project.


Now that I think about it. It kind of resembles that of chelsea market and eataly in NYC, most of grand central market in LA, and foodhallen in amsterdam in terms of stuff like walking widths and people flow.

I'd like to hear about the rest of the food served here and not a bitch fest about what donuts are better and who's are horrible :)

I really like Okie Poke, although it's harder for me to get to now that they have relocated from the 23rd Street Courts. Healthy and fresh... More or less deconstructed sushi served in a bowl.

Shaka was very good and the complex has a very strong beer and cocktail selection with table service in the evenings.

I look forward to trying the rest of the kitchens, which all look interesting.


Parlor will be opening in about a month, so it will be interesting to see how the 2 food halls stack up against each other.

I'd like to hear about the rest of the food served here and not a bitch fest about what donuts are better and who's are horrible :)

Okie Pokie is good. Satisfied?

I'd like to hear about the rest of the food served here and not a bitch fest about what donuts are better and who's are horrible :)

I went for dinner Thursday night and tried the following: Shaka - Hawaiian BBQ Chicken, Flying Pig - Mac and Cheese with brisket, The Fried Taco - Pulled Pork and Chicken Bacon Ranch tacos. For two of us, we ordered way too much food but we wanted to try as many things as we could. My favorite so far was Shaka. The marinated chicken thighs were great and I can't wait to try more there. Mac and cheese was pretty good, but I didn't give the BBQ a fair shot - we'll try a meat platter next time as all the orders before us looked great. The Fried Taco was interesting, they fill the taco and then fry it with the meat inside. They have some interesting options, and surprisingly the chicken bacon ranch was our favorite.

Every seat in the building was filled around 7, but from what we've heard it wasn't near as bad as it was when it first opened. The Weekend Allstars were playing on the patio, so we stuck around and had a couple drinks outside. They had a few servers walking around taking orders and we never had to wait. Once people figure out how the concept works I think there will be less complaints, but we had a great time and were impressed by the build-out.

And once the weather moves off broil the patio should be a great spot.

And once the weather moves off broil the patio should be a great spot.

It looked pretty full when I drove by about 1:30 yesterday.... even with the heat.

I walked by on Saturday in the evening and the patio was packed.

I've enjoyed the fried taco and though prices were comparable to Revolucion for example.

I wonder how the waffle place stacks up against the crazy-popular Waffle Champion?

I'd like to hear about the rest of the food served here and not a bitch fest about what donuts are better and who's are horrible :)

Stopped by today and had a donut. I'm inclined to believe that if it were called something else that isn't a donut I'd have different expectations. I had the fry bread with vanilla bean filling. Wish there was more filling.

Cafe de L'Asie also changed their menu. Got the spicy honey chicken sandwich and the crepe (The last menu item I haven't gotten from their last menu). I enjoyed it, and the prices have changed.

Lunch there today around 1 PM, this time at the Fried Taco.

When I walked in there were no inside seats at all but by the time I got my food a couple of tables had emptied. It was nice so I sat outside. They have a good sound system out there.

I had the Nashvile Hot Chicken Taco ($4.25) and mango guac + chips ($8).

The chicken was of the stewed variety and I liked the fried shell and topping but the meat was on the bland side.

The quac was fine but little mango. Really liked the thick, crispy chips.

Too much food for one person but wanted to try a couple of different things.

http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/friedtaco082719a.jpg

^That looks like just about the right amount for one person if the one person is ME! :)

I brought a big group of friends (mostly from Dallas) here on Saturday afternoon and everyone was really impressed. It was also ideal for a big group as everyone found something they wanted. The place was full, but we were all able to find seats in smaller groups. The bar in particular is a great spot to hang out. The lines were short or non-existent at most restaurants. I had the eggs and sausage option from Oh Baby! and meant to try a fried taco as my friend spoke highly of them. I split a cream-filled donut from Theo's and it was okay... my friend and I agreed it needed to be a little sweeter. The whole concept is such a homerun. Props to the hard work that went into it.

I brought a big group of friends (mostly from Dallas) here on Saturday afternoon and everyone was really impressed. It was also ideal for a big group as everyone found something they wanted. The place was full, but we were all able to find seats in smaller groups. The bar in particular is a great spot to hang out. The lines were short or non-existent at most restaurants. I had the eggs and sausage option from Oh Baby! and meant to try a fried taco as my friend spoke highly of them. I split a cream-filled donut from Theo's and it was okay... my friend and I agreed it needed to be a little sweeter. The whole concept is such a homerun. Props to the hard work that went into it.

Did they offer their thoughts on how it compared to the plano food hall?

Did they offer their thoughts on how it compared to the plano food hall?

Nope, none of them mentioned any Dallas food halls even though a few are originally from Plano.

The Oh Baby! kitchen closed.

Not sure what will take its place.

Domino Effect. Hope I'm wrong, but it seems to me we have a lot of choices and not enough population density.

The Oh Baby! kitchen closed.

Not sure what will take its place.

I think the niche places are going to have a tough time anywhere.... Not many people know what a Dutch Baby is and aren't willing to pay to try one..... Too bad because unless they were doing something wrong... Dutch Baby's are some great comfort food.

I vote Lip Smackerz.

I could be wrong but i thought i read somewhere that's its common for these places in food halls to only have a 3 months lease and give it a go and if they don't make it or like being there they move on.

I could be wrong but i thought i read somewhere that's its common for these places in food halls to only have a 3 months lease and give it a go and if they don't make it or like being there they move on.

Yes.

And the whole idea is to swap out places so there is something new.

My understanding is they already have another operator lined up. They had something like 50 apply originally.

The Oh Baby! kitchen closed.

Not sure what will take its place.

Darn, I really wanted to give that one a try but hadn't made it over yet. :(

I had only tried their sweet offerings, not the savory, but so good. Was nice to have a non-ice cream desertish option. Will miss it.

I tried them a few times and really liked everything. Their BBQ pulled pork option was *chef's kiss* delicious. Hopefully the babies can live on in some capacity elsewhere.

Too many kitchens under one roof to compete with, very high rent costs, cant sell soft your own soft drinks, there'll constantly be turnover here.

Too many kitchens under one roof to compete with, very high rent costs, cant sell soft your own soft drinks, there'll constantly be turnover here.

it was put into place with the idea of there being constant turnover. that's kind of the point

it was put into place with the idea of there being constant turnover. that's kind of the point

Not true. Food halls are not designed for constant turnover. They’re designed for vendors to not be saddled with long leases but if they’re successful, they’ll remain in their space unless they grew too big for the space and then want to expand.

Not true. Food halls are not designed for constant turnover. They’re designed for vendors to not be saddled with long leases but if they’re successful, they’ll remain in their space unless they grew too big for the space and then want to expand.

It also gives the owner of the hall the option to replace kitchens that they don't feel are working well and/or help the total mix.

Damn. Now The Flying Pig announces that it is closing 2/22.
https://twitter.com/FlyingPigOKC/status/1227219764055093248

Damn. Now The Flying Pig announces that it is closing 2/22.
https://twitter.com/FlyingPigOKC/status/1227219764055093248

Interesting. They were always slammed when I was there. Any idea whose decision and why?

They've tweeted that they will still have their food truck.

Interesting. They were always slammed when I was there. Any idea whose decision and why?

My sources are saying the fees & overhead are just astronomical at The Collective. Even if you are totally killing the game with your sales, the average deal structure really hurts net margins.

well crud, will have to go back soon for a couple of my faves before they're gone...

My sources are saying the fees & overhead are just astronomical at The Collective. Even if you are totally killing the game with your sales, the average deal structure really hurts net margins.


I also have heard this.

I was in downtown Houston last week and went to Bravery Chef Hall which is very similar to The Collective. Instead of a rooftop patio they have a garden space at ground level with seating. Worth checking out if you're down there.

That sounds neat. Minor tangent, I enjoy the space at Stitch for that reason.

Phill Me Up Cheesesteaks is going to have a kitchen in The Collective.

They had submitted building permits for the old French Cowgirl space on Western Ave, but this must be instead.

Yus

Phill Me Up Cheesesteaks is going to have a kitchen in The Collective.

They had submitted building permits for the old French Cowgirl space on Western Ave, but this must be instead.

Minor sidebar, I think the French Cowgirl space is going to be a yoga studio

Back on topic: Beth Lyons black cat closed, and saw as of least this sunday it is now occupied by a sub saharan restaurant Edies?

Edie's Grill has opened, featuring some really interesting looking African food:

https://www.facebook.com/Edies-Grill-102781024667079/

HTTP://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/edies1.jpg

^ That looks good, looks West African?

Edies has been open for awhile. I've had everything there. Meat is always cooked and seasoned perfectly.

Is this related to the new Edies in Edmond?

Is this related to the new Edies in Edmond?

No.

Eddie's in Edmond is with two d's and is completely separate ownership and type of food.

Is this related to the new Edies in Edmond?

the Eddies in edmond is not really new they just moved their location

New burger place, evolve the burger, is taking local homa's place. Food truck around edmond?

New burger place, evolve the burger, is taking local homa's place. Food truck around edmond?
SIAP - did Localhoma end up anywhere else or just shut down?

SIAP - did Localhoma end up anywhere else or just shut down?

Just shut down. SIAP has a few definitions haha. Glad I did a double take after reading the urban dictionary one.

Did Theo’s Donuts shut down or move elsewhere? I personally thought the donuts sucked.

Theo's shut down at the start of the pandemic. Though, I thought the donuts were great, just a little pricey.

A few weeks ago a pizza place took over the space that Vuong's Cafe De L'Asie left. It's called Mozz and Mari's and they serve NY form factor pizza. I say it that way cause the slices are huge, however they run crunchier than NY style, and there is more sauce on the pizza.

At the collective now having a beer. First time. What a well done space.

At the collective now having a beer. First time. What a well done space.

I went for the first time last night. It was a blast. Perfect weather helps.

Molly's Tamales just opened in The Collective:


Molly's Tamales is a Tex-Mex concept created by two texan sweethearts with a passion for culinary arts and a knack for spicy salsa!

https://www.facebook.com/poptamale

Are they where the donut place was, or the salad place?

Couple of questions:

Is live music just random or is it just certain days/nights that they have it? Saw various dates that they mention it on their FB page, and seems kinda random.

Another FB post from July said their A/C has been out for months, can anybody confirm/deny that they currently have A/C?

Thx...