2016 is here.

Any projections?

Will WRWA make 4M pax in 2016? Will WRWA add any cities? When will we see the new expansion take visible construction? Any upgrades in equipment flown?

Doubt we'll see too much with oil traffic down. United is reducing from 10 a day to IAH to around 7 in the summer time.

I don't think we'll have a very exciting year.

deleted - catch said the same thing and his was posted just as I typed mine.

United just dropped TUL-IAD, Allegiant is going to give a seasonal (May-Aug) shot at TUL-BWI.

http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/allegiant-to-add-baltimorewashington-with-new-route-420619/

Operates Sunday and Thursday.

BWI-TUL 1041am-1231pm
TUL-BWI 111pm-446pm

http://www.flyokc.com/statistics/December2015Enplanement.pdf

Ouch.

Alaska still doing good on loads.

The frontier pull out makes it look worse then it is.

The frontier pull out makes it look worse then it is.

The other months have had pretty steady, gradual declines. December had a huge dropoff.

Yikes.

The other months have had pretty steady, gradual declines. December had a huge dropoff.
Driving for the holidays was susbstainially cheaper then flying I'd guess.

Did the weather make any impact on those numbers with cancelled flights?

Did the weather make any impact on those numbers with cancelled flights?
Probably, but I don't live near enough to Oklahoma to keep track of what the weather is doing.

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Meanwhile, down in a city called Austin... (http://www.austintexas.gov/news/november-2015-passenger-cargo-traffic-austin-bergstrom)

That's what business traffic, new international nonstops and decent leisure flyers do to your traffic figures, not to mention several million+ months. And that's just through November '15. AUS typically has high passenger numbers in December also. I guess it'll need that East Concourse extension sooner than they think. AUS also has several daily nonstops to several coastal markets. Plus the market is much different now than it was say, five years ago.

The tech-dominated markets like Austin, SF Bay Area, Seattle and Denver are the hottest and fastest growing markets in the country. Of course their business traffic will be doing well.

OKC is dominated by O&G which will affect not only business but also leisure traffic as people take fewer vacations due to lower/no bonuses, layoffs and general uncertainty about their jobs.

Booking all of my Feb travel and noticing quite a few more non-mainline equipment operated flights for AA on the OKC-DFW route. Not good for us AA FFs.

I counted 10 flights a day to DFW. 6 mainline and 4 Regionals. Not bad really in my eyes for a slow travel time of the year. I don't know how this compares to last January but it still seems respectable.

I counted 10 flights a day to DFW. 6 mainline and 4 Regionals. Not bad really in my eyes for a slow travel time of the year. I don't know how this compares to last January but it still seems respectable.

10 is where it was last year. I want to say historically we were at 7 a day (All S80). Then once AA decided to bank DFW and abandon the "rolling hub" connection flow, they added in 3 RJ flights to feed some of the new banks they created in DFW. Then, I think they decided that was too much capacity, and they downgraded an S80 to a CR9, maintaining the connectivity but pulling 60 seats from the market.

I have heard that OKC-DFW will be one of the first markets for the Envoy (previously American Eagle Airlines) E175's that will be delivered next month. I don't think they can legally sell seats on them because Envoy's Operations Manual for the E175 has yet to be approved by the FAA. Once it's approved, they will load E175's onto the OKC-DFW market, hopefully replacing the 4 CRJ/ERJs.

OKC-Texas is huge.
10x AA-DFW
10x UA-IAH
4x WN-DAL
4x WN-HOU

UA will be going to 7 daily IAH in Sept, as summer traffic dies off and oil business traffic reduces. There's still plenty of time for that to be reversed, but I would not count on it, as the oil crash looks to be much longer than first anticipated.

Playing around with Delta schedules (and someone can correct me if these are just dummy schedules)..but it looks like in May flights to ATL will be a mix of MD-88,Boeing 717 and CRJ-900's and then in June we go all Boeing fleet with a mix of 717 and 737's

Delta does their schedules a little different. Probably not a dummy schedule, but a modified long range schedule. A321's will begin to enter the DL fleet next month, freeing up 737's for other roles. Probably just them adjusting markets to move the A321's in. (Not sure if they actually loaded the A321 yet)

I also noticed that in June OKC-SLC on DL will be going 3 times daily (except Sat) with -700's and -900's.

When was the last time that route had 3 daily? I've always seen it as 1..maybe 2 daily.

I also noticed that in June OKC-SLC on DL will be going 3 times daily (except Sat) with -700's and -900's.

When was the last time that route had 3 daily? I've always seen it as 1..maybe 2 daily.

Good catch. I will look in my files when I have a chance, I used to keep spreadsheets of every season going back until about 2009.

I want to say maybe 2007 is the last time SLC was 3 daily.

Alaska Air Group ordering up to 60 Embraer E175's for Horizon Air...to replace some Q400's and all of the CRJ7's under the OO contract. With Alaska on the defensive in the heating up west coast, many of these will be for growth too.

OKC Airport Trust needs to be ahead of the game here and try and get on AS's short list for nonstops to PDX and SAN. E175 is the perfect aircraft for the job.

Also, in unconnected but related news, the new Spirit Airlines CEO mentioned on a conference call a shift of strategy to enhance customer service, as well as begin focusing on small to medium sized markets.

Again OKC Airport Trust...get on the phone and sell the OKC market. OKC-FLL would be awesome, even if we got it through Spirit. Southwest doesn't ever give OKC any new routes anymore...and AA doesn't seem to be focusing too much on MIA expansion. Spirit has room to grow in FLL, and would be a great opportunity for OKC to have a real carrier to Florida. I wouldn't count Allegiant as a real carrier as it is less than daily, and they seem to be a very shoddy airline lately.

Why doesn't the OKC Airport Trust or chamber of commerce seem to do anything proactive to attracting new flights or carriers?

Alaska Air Group ordering up to 60 Embraer E175's for Horizon Air...to replace some Q400's and all of the CRJ7's under the OO contract. With Alaska on the defensive in the heating up west coast, many of these will be for growth too.

OKC Airport Trust needs to be ahead of the game here and try and get on AS's short list for nonstops to PDX and SAN. E175 is the perfect aircraft for the job.

Also, in unconnected but related news, the new Spirit Airlines CEO mentioned on a conference call a shift of strategy to enhance customer service, as well as begin focusing on small to medium sized markets.

Again OKC Airport Trust...get on the phone and sell the OKC market. OKC-FLL would be awesome, even if we got it through Spirit. Southwest doesn't ever give OKC any new routes anymore...and AA doesn't seem to be focusing too much on MIA expansion. Spirit has room to grow in FLL, and would be a great opportunity for OKC to have a real carrier to Florida. I wouldn't count Allegiant as a real carrier as it is less than daily, and they seem to be a very shoddy airline lately.

Why doesn't the OKC Airport Trust or chamber of commerce seem to do anything proactive to attracting new flights or carriers?

We have regular meetings and contact with airlines. We keep a consultant on contract to watch for opportunities and to contact them. We contact them ourselves to invite them to town and to request meetings. We meet with them at conferences every year. We just had Southwest in town back on January 13 and took them for a tour around downtown and to the Mayor's State of the City. The airlines take quite a bit of time to analyze and implement changes, but we continue to stay in their ear and make requests.

We have regular meetings and contact with airlines. We keep a consultant on contract to watch for opportunities and to contact them. We contact them ourselves to invite them to town and to request meetings. We meet with them at conferences every year. We just had Southwest in town back on January 13 and took them for a tour around downtown and to the Mayor's State of the City. The airlines take quite a bit of time to analyze and implement changes, but we continue to stay in their ear and make requests.

That's good to know. But it seems like we are continually being passed up by other similar sized markets. Our DFW leakage does not help either.

That's good to know. But it seems like we are continually being passed up by other similar sized markets. Our DFW leakage does not help either.

No one gets more frustrated about being passed up than us and we are not shy about addressing specific examples of it with reps from the airlines.

No one gets more frustrated about being passed up than us and we are not shy about addressing specific examples of it with reps from the airlines.

Josh, just wanted to say I appreciate your input.

The cheapest flight from OKC to Dallas right now is $82 (that I can find anywhere)

If spirit wanted to come here and add say 4 flights roughly every few hours and charge about $60 (which is more than they would usually charge for that flight) they would make a killing. They would sell out those flights probably daily(likely an exaggeration but you get my point). Plus with the addition of a connecting flight in Dallas they would get more business as people could then go from Dallas to BWI, FLL, LGA and the like.

Honestly with Spirit the flight from OKC to Dallas would probably be in the $30 range on weekdays (consistent with similar flights) and roughly $50 on weekends (comparing flights from Dallas to Denver or Dallas to New Orleans for this comparison.

just my 2 cents (from someone is spends way too much time looking at flight prices for the next cheap getaway.

I think we can all agree that when you have a major hub airport like DFW down that road..that there will be some leakage.

Does anyone know how much leakage OKC receives from Eastern OK for those that don't want to fly out of Ft Smith? Or how much Wichita loses for people driving south to OKC? Or even SW Oklahoma for those that drive to OKC that don't want to fly out of LAW? And lastly... for those out west that don't want to fly out of AMA?

How does Airports like MKE survive with ORD so close (even closer than OKC is to DFW)?

I think the answer is MKE focuses on convenience and a relaxed experience contra to Ohare with its bustling offering of flights to everywhere. Surprisingly, MKE gets a LOT of Chicagoland pax to likely offset leakage of their market to Ohare or at least allow Mitchell to keep its counts consistent.

Could this approach be done in OKC where WE become the #1 alternative airport in this region to the mess that is DFW? What is MKE doing that OKC should and could easily implement? I think this is the best shot OKC has for growth, if we can get the passengers then airlines likely would be happy to expand in this market. But we need to convince folks that OKC is the best option and NOT DFW.

Forgive me if it's already been discussed. But I see that OKC-EWR goes E-175.

Forgive me if it's already been discussed. But I see that OKC-EWR goes E-175 thus Spring. Nice upgauge.

http://www.flyokc.com/statistics/January2016Enplanement.pdf

http://www.flyokc.com/statistics/January2016Enplanement.pdf

Not bad at all considering all the current factors.

I was thinking the same thing. Kinda curious that deplanements were so high.

I was thinking the same thing. Kinda curious that deplanements were so high.

January deplanements are historically higher than enplanements because people often leave for the holidays in December, and arrive after New Years.

According to the numbers, January deplanements were 9,084 passengers larger than enplanements. While December 2015 enplanements were 11,670 greater than deplanements. Add in some one-way trips and general data clutter and it makes up the extra 2,000 to make it even between the months.

It looks like the Alaska Airlines flights are running about 80 percent full.

Ive always wanted to know what the "other" is on the Will Rogers Stats info. Does Will Rogers have charters?

Ive always wanted to know what the "other" is on the Will Rogers Stats info. Does Will Rogers have charters?
No regular charters currently, but there are certainly some operated by people like OU with their athletic teams.

No regular charters currently, but there are certainly some operated by people like OU with their athletic teams.

I'm not sure if those are included in the "other" category. I think it might be casino charters to Vegas. Seems every now and then there's one.

I'm not sure if those are included in the "other" category. I think it might be casino charters to Vegas. Seems every now and then there's one.

True there are sometimes casino charters, but those are not common. I don't remember any in January. I'm not sure either about the athletic charters being counted, but they certainly constitute enplanements and deplanements.

True there are sometimes casino charters, but those are not common. I don't remember any in January. I'm not sure either about the athletic charters being counted, but they certainly constitute enplanements and deplanements.

I don't think they do, as they are Part 135 charters and they are non-sterile. The bus drives onto the ramp and they board from there. They never enter or exit the passenger terminal.

Ive always wanted to know what the "other" is on the Will Rogers Stats info. Does Will Rogers have charters?

We should add prisoner transfers to the enplanements/deplanements lists. That would really drive up numbers in the Other category. :)

Here's a schedule of Casinos International charters.

http://www.junketflights.com/pdfs/schedule.pdf

Here's a schedule of Casinos International charters.

http://www.junketflights.com/pdfs/schedule.pdf

Good find!

January deplanements are historically higher than enplanements because people often leave for the holidays in December, and arrive after New Years.

According to the numbers, January deplanements were 9,084 passengers larger than enplanements. While December 2015 enplanements were 11,670 greater than deplanements. Add in some one-way trips and general data clutter and it makes up the extra 2,000 to make it even between the months.

I love how logical that is.

Here's a schedule of Casinos International charters.

http://www.junketflights.com/pdfs/schedule.pdf

It's really amazing to me that any casino charters can continue to operate successfully from OKC given the proliferation of local casinos. They have to offer some huge perks to attracts customers. I remember a time when MLT Vacations was offering charter flights to Vegas from OKC four days a week every week and most went out packed. The same company offered seasonal weekly charter flights from OKC to Cancun for a time a few years back.

It's really amazing to me that any casino charters can continue to operate successfully from OKC given the proliferation of local casinos. They have to offer some huge perks to attracts customers. I remember a time when MLT Vacations was offering charter flights to Vegas from OKC four days a week every week and most went out packed. The same company offered seasonal weekly charter flights from OKC to Cancun for a time a few years back.

Some people REALLY like craps :)

It's really amazing to me that any casino charters can continue to operate successfully from OKC given the proliferation of local casinos. They have to offer some huge perks to attracts customers. I remember a time when MLT Vacations was offering charter flights to Vegas from OKC four days a week every week and most went out packed. The same company offered seasonal weekly charter flights from OKC to Cancun for a time a few years back.

I remember that well. Wasn't that also about the time that hotels in Vegas had rooms for $19 or some crazy rate? Practically gave away rooms! I hadn't thought about those MLT packages in a long time. Ahh, memories.

Some people REALLY like craps :)

To add onto this, some people like myself REALLY LOVE craps, as well as NOT pay to play blackjack (even though Grand Casino has ante free table games M-TH)

I don't count Oklahoma "card" craps as real craps either.

To add onto this, some people like myself REALLY LOVE craps, as well as NOT pay to play blackjack (even though Grand Casino has ante free table games M-TH)

I don't count Oklahoma "card" craps as real craps either.

Amen to that, I won't set foot in Oklahoma casinos. I only like craps so they serve me no purpose.

Speaking of craps, I see that the Kansas Star Casino up I-35 has craps. Has anyone been there and, if so, is it REAL or the bs card craps?

Didn't mean to sidetrack. so just PM me

Speaking of craps, I see that the Kansas Star Casino up I-35 has craps. Has anyone been there and, if so, is it REAL or the bs card craps?

every other casino I've been to in KS has real craps

Meanwhile, I'm just sitting here giggling to myself like I'm 12 because of the word craps.

I remember that well. Wasn't that also about the time that hotels in Vegas had rooms for $19 or some crazy rate? Practically gave away rooms! I hadn't thought about those MLT packages in a long time. Ahh, memories.
You can get rooms for free in Vegas.
Sign up for their players club.
Call ahead and take a marker. Minimums range from 3-10k.

They'll comp the room. You don't even have to gamble that much. they make money on the float.

Oklahoma is the only place I've been with fake craps

Speaking of craps, I see that the Kansas Star Casino up I-35 has craps. Has anyone been there and, if so, is it REAL or the bs card craps?

Didn't mean to sidetrack. so just PM me

I've been a number of times. Usually a few times a year when visiting my mom in Wichita. Most recently on the way UP and the way BACK from the now-legendary OU-KS hoops game. Real craps, real roulette, real (no ante) blackjack. Except for the fact that you're surrounded by farmers and that most of the dealers look like ladies who just left church, it's indistinguishable from a middle-of-the-road casino floor in Vegas.

I'm done with OK casinos until the ante is removed from blackjack tables. If I ever get a bug to play, I'd rather drive to Kansas Star. That said, fortunately for my finances I rarely "get a bug," and am happy to just stop in when traveling elsewhere.

Some southwest changes for our neighbors to the north.

Effective in August:
Chicago Midway-Tulsa ends
Chicago Midway-Wichita ends
Tulsa to St. Louis increases to 2 daily
Wichita to Phoenix begins.

Allegiant is adding a twice weekly direct to destin Florida.

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Awesome