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Anonymous. 12-01-2015, 09:55 AM Weather looks relatively quiet until around December 12.
bchris02 12-01-2015, 10:22 AM As long as Dec 17th has good weather for the Force Awakens opening night.
NikonNurse 12-04-2015, 09:37 PM As long as Dec 17th has good weather for the Force Awakens opening night.
I couldnt get tickets until Saturday afternoon. I dont care if there is an f5 and an ice storm blizzard...as long as movie still showing, im going.
Anonymous. 12-07-2015, 10:54 PM Weather looks relatively quiet until around December 12.
Still tracking this same storm from a week ago. It looks to be pretty powerful. Right now the track takes it through KS which would dryslot most of OK, eastern OK could be in severe storm territory.
Will keep it updated as we approach the weekend.
Anonymous. 12-08-2015, 07:01 PM Dec. 12 storm last two GFS runs has the track further south.
Looking super far ahead, very stormy pattern setting up for the US. Just now coming into GFS window, but right now Christmas looks white for much of the southern plains.
OKCisOK4me 12-08-2015, 08:21 PM Dec. 12 storm last two GFS runs has the track further south.
Looking super far ahead, very stormy pattern setting up for the US. Just now coming into GFS window, but right now Christmas looks white for much of the southern plains.
I'll believe it when I wake up to it!
Bobby821 12-10-2015, 08:56 AM Several of the computer ensembles from a couple of different models suggest we'll see snow across Oklahoma for Christmas week. So that still hasn't changed. Here's one posted below to give you an idea on the spread and amounts.
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Anonymous. 12-11-2015, 08:46 AM Saturday is looking more interesting. Looks like severe storms will be likely across most of the state. Models can't decide where they want to fire storms, but it looks like we could have some decent dryline action. GFS fires storms in western OK, NAM is firing in eastern OK, and then later in central OK.
All severe modes will be possible, the most common threat leaning towards hail and tornados. Yes, tornados in December. This storm system shouldn't be slept on, it is very strong.
http://www.spc.noaa.gov/products/outlook/day2otlk_0700.gif?1449845155707
Anonymous. 12-12-2015, 04:28 PM Watch may be coming.
http://www.spc.noaa.gov/products/md/mcd2006.gif
Severe threat lower due to no sunshine today, also storms and showers ahead of dryline are stabilizing atmosphere.
tfvc.org 12-12-2015, 06:08 PM There have been tornado warnings around the Houston area.
Bits_Of_Real_Panther 12-13-2015, 01:42 AM been hearing rumbles of thunder and seeing flashes of lightning
shavethewhales 12-13-2015, 05:17 PM So according to the mainstream forecasts it looks like temperatures are going to dip this week before getting back to spring-like weather for Christmas week? Any bets on a cold front actually moving in for Christmas? Seems like any hope for a white christmas is quickly fading.
Anonymous. 12-13-2015, 11:04 PM Cold temps for a while. We will begin to moderate this coming weekend.
GFS still shows Christmas winter storm.
Bobby821 12-15-2015, 09:42 AM Well it looks like Ventures web site is no more. Weather spotlight has been down for several days now. I would like to know from those here who would be interested in starting up a new website with the twitter feeds like Venture had on his site as well as a chat room for weather. Do we have any members with knowledge on designing a website who would be willing to take this on?
SoonerDave 12-15-2015, 09:59 AM Well it looks like Ventures web site is no more. Weather spotlight has been down for several days now. I would like to know from those here who would be interested in starting up a new website with the twitter feeds like Venture had on his site as well as a chat room for weather. Do we have any members with knowledge on designing a website who would be willing to take this on?
Yeah, the site is completely gone now.
Man, that's a shame. He did an awesome job trying to put all that together, but I suspect weather coverage in that part of the country just doesn't generate the interest level it does down here in Oklahoma. He had very loosely broached some questions about web/app development with me many many moons ago, suggesting he might be interested in an extra pair of eyes on some things, but that never went anywhere.
Anyone maintain any contact with him? Would love to know if perhaps he has other plans or if things have just taken a different direction for him. He did such a great job here....
As a dev myself, I can only begin to tell ya how much back-end time was implied in all the things he did here and on his own site. Juggling chatroom providers, writing code, updating feeds, testing, deploying, and doing it all as a one-man-band on top of full-time job concerns isn't easy. Coupling that with Venture's meteorological expertise and you realize what an asset he was here!
I might be willing to at least explore the idea of a basic setup, but I wouldn't at all be able to impart Venture's meteorological knowledge. I can generally read a GFS and recognize an inflow notch on a springtime radar, but that's a long, long way from what Ven did (and Anon continues to do) here...
LocoAko 12-15-2015, 10:38 AM Yeah, the site is completely gone now.
Man, that's a shame. He did an awesome job trying to put all that together, but I suspect weather coverage in that part of the country just doesn't generate the interest level it does down here in Oklahoma. He had very loosely broached some questions about web/app development with me many many moons ago, suggesting he might be interested in an extra pair of eyes on some things, but that never went anywhere.
Anyone maintain any contact with him? Would love to know if perhaps he has other plans or if things have just taken a different direction for him. He did such a great job here....
As a dev myself, I can only begin to tell ya how much back-end time was implied in all the things he did here and on his own site. Juggling chatroom providers, writing code, updating feeds, testing, deploying, and doing it all as a one-man-band on top of full-time job concerns isn't easy. Coupling that with Venture's meteorological expertise and you realize what an asset he was here!
I might be willing to at least explore the idea of a basic setup, but I wouldn't at all be able to impart Venture's meteorological knowledge. I can generally read a GFS and recognize an inflow notch on a springtime radar, but that's a long, long way from what Ven did (and Anon continues to do) here...
I'm Facebook friends with him. I can ask him what his thoughts are on it or if he's lost interest in maintaining it if you'd like.
SoonerDave 12-15-2015, 11:07 AM I'm Facebook friends with him. I can ask him what his thoughts are on it or if he's lost interest in maintaining it if you'd like.
I think just as a matter of curiosity his friends here back in OK would like to know how he's doing and what's going on with him in general - hope there weren't adverse external factors that forced him to stop the site. It looks like he was looking for some type of external support or crowdfunding back in May, but it looks to me now as though he's discontinued the effort entirely. The WeatherSpotlight Facebook page he had going has been taken down and the Twitter account is gone as well.
I'm going to guess that the time requirement was just too great to maintain the kind of quality he wanted to maintain versus the interest level and, perhaps, income it might have generated/expenses it required.
Anonymous. 12-15-2015, 11:48 AM I tried to get him to send me the format for at least all the stuff @ the top of the topics. I cannot recreate it, because it needs to be that forum BBCode or whatever.
On to the forecast.
We should still get pretty cold (normal temps) tomorrow into Saturday. Morning lows will be deep into the 20s.
In regards to precip. - GFS is accelerating the Christmas week storm and blasts it off to the northeast, with little impact. However, a deep southern low is being shown developing in its wake and hits OK with heavy snow around the 27th. GFS has been consistent with the Christmas storm until about last night, so we will see what the trend is. We should have a decent understanding this weekend, when we thoroughly reach NAM window.
Bobby821 12-15-2015, 11:59 AM I would be willing to help out with a site in any way possible, I do not have web development skills. But I do think we should have something in place before we get into the spring severe weather season for sure. I am not opposed to us trying out some of the free websites and free chat rooms to use for this to help with costs, Channel 5's chat room they put up is a joke and a zoo usually and not worth much for breaking weather info.
SoonerDave 12-15-2015, 12:11 PM I need to correct some wrong information I posted earlier. Venture's WeatherSpotlight page on Facebook is still present, but hasn't had any activity or posts on it in nearly a month. I obviously followed a bad/incorrect link earlier when I said it was gone. My apologies for any misinformation - surely not intentional.
Any prospect of snow around the 25-27th is intriguing to me...just no repeats of The Christmas Eve Blizzard... :)
Bobby821 12-15-2015, 12:16 PM I need to correct some wrong information I posted earlier. Venture's WeatherSpotlight page on Facebook is still present, but hasn't had any activity or posts on it in nearly a month. I obviously followed a bad/incorrect link earlier when I said it was gone. My apologies for any misinformation - surely not intentional.
Any prospect of snow around the 25-27th is intriguing to me...just no repeats of The Christmas Eve Blizzard... :)
How about having an after Christmas Blizzard? Count me in for that
Jim Kyle 12-15-2015, 01:34 PM As a dev myself, I can only begin to tell ya how much back-end time was implied in all the things he did here and on his own site. Juggling chatroom providers, writing code, updating feeds, testing, deploying, and doing it all as a one-man-band on top of full-time job concerns isn't easy. Coupling that with Venture's meteorological expertise and you realize what an asset he was here!I'm maintaining two web sites (my own, and that of the Classen High School Alumni Association) myself and can verify this assertion. I'll be happy to provide any behind-the-scenes assistance -- today's "configuration management systems" (CMSs) make the task much simpler than it was 20 years ago. Most of the really hard stuff can be handled via plug-ins for whatever CMS is chosen. I'm using WordPress myself, which doesn't cost a dime so the expense would simply be that for the hosting space and domain registration. However I can't committ to daily site maintenace. That needs someone with even more free time and energy!
SoonerDave 12-15-2015, 03:26 PM Great news everyone - Venture's site is back up. Dropped him a PM here just in case he might visit once in a while, and he already replied - it was just an administrative oversight on his site being down. Thought I'd relay :) Looks like things are going great for him.
soonerguru 12-16-2015, 12:59 AM Great news! He is a good dude and that site has been indispensable to me and my family the last few years.
BusySpeechMom 12-16-2015, 08:07 AM Hi! I wanted to chime in and say how happy I am to see posts! I live in Tulsa and frequently lurk on this forum. I appreciate all the great information!
jn1780 12-16-2015, 08:31 AM I have little doubt that he will be more active here come springtime especially if there are big setups.
SOONER8693 12-16-2015, 11:48 AM Great news everyone - Venture's site is back up. Dropped him a PM here just in case he might visit once in a while, and he already replied - it was just an administrative oversight on his site being down. Thought I'd relay :) Looks like things are going great for him.
Where would one find that site?
John1744 12-16-2015, 02:43 PM Weather Spotlight - Live Weather Event Coverage, Chat Room, Forecast Models, Radar, and Satellite for Oklahoma and Southern Plains (http://weatherspotlight.com/)
BG918 12-16-2015, 11:07 PM Are the models no longer showing a Christmas/end of next week storm in Oklahoma?
Anonymous. 12-17-2015, 08:15 AM Some light snow trying to develop in NW OK and move SE across the state, won't be anything significant - just one of those "Is it snowing?" moments.
GFS has pretty much completely eliminated the chance of any storm before or on Christmas. There is still a strong system showing up for the 27th, but we shall see if it sticks around like the last couple have not.
Temperatures on Christmas Eve look cool or cold. Then Christmas day is actually an above normal temperature day as it looks now (ahead of approaching 27th storm).
Bunty 12-17-2015, 03:52 PM Light snow in Stillwater as of 3:45PM.
http://www.stillwaterweather.com/wxgraphic.php?type=banner_big (http://www.stillwaterweather.com/)
okatty 12-17-2015, 04:12 PM It's snowing like crazy NW OKC right now...ha.
A friend just told me light snow is falling in north Edmond.
Kemotblue 12-17-2015, 04:50 PM It's lightly snowing here in NE Yukon
Anonymous. 12-17-2015, 04:51 PM Nice to see a few flakes!
Updates will start to get more frequent heading into the weekend and especially next week.
Anonymous. 12-18-2015, 08:50 AM Anyone like snow? Red colors are about a foot, and yellow is in the 20" range.
http://i.imgur.com/NLrJgvM.png
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Is this for the weekend after Christmas?
Anonymous. 12-18-2015, 09:13 AM Yes, sorry meant to mention that. That graphic is snowfall from the 27-28th.
Also for anyone curious, that is GFS model from this morning's run.
okatty 12-18-2015, 09:25 AM ^ WOW, maybe I should go to the Orange Bowl after all!!!:)
LakeEffect 12-18-2015, 09:25 AM Yes, sorry meant to mention that. That graphic is snowfall from the 27-28th.
Also for anyone curious, that is GFS model from this morning's run.
Exciting... Except that we intend to drive from St. Louis to OKC on the 27th. Paying real close attention now.
Bobby821 12-18-2015, 09:27 AM I was wondering if someone doctored up the map. Just having a hard time getting geared up and excited about the 27th-28th storm. No one is saying much about snow just above normal temps into January and just rain. The NWS hasn't jumped on board with it and Channel 5 has pretty much been a Debbie downer on any snow by posting there 30 day outlook heat miser maps. I hope this come true what GFS is saying in the map you posted Anon.
Anonymous. 12-18-2015, 10:38 AM I was wondering if someone doctored up the map. Just having a hard time getting geared up and excited about the 27th-28th storm. No one is saying much about snow just above normal temps into January and just rain. The NWS hasn't jumped on board with it and Channel 5 has pretty much been a Debbie downer on any snow by posting there 30 day outlook heat miser maps. I hope this come true what GFS is saying in the map you posted Anon.
Local stations would be roasted if they reported on extreme looking storm systems that are 10 days out. Because the general public takes local forecasts to the bank. People already get up in arms about local forecasters saying tomorrow will be X, then it is actually Y. It would be much too risky to mention an apocalyptic storm that is 10 days out.
I have mentioned it here before, but this forum allows for more scientific discussion about weather and forecasting with models. As opposed to sunshine graphics and schoolbus stop conditions. This forum is generally 'above average' when it comes to weather discussion and understanding. Thus, I thought it would be interesting to post a graphic here of the GFS 10 days out.
Bobby821 12-18-2015, 10:51 AM Local stations would be roasted if they reported on extreme looking storm systems that are 10 days out. Because the general public takes local forecasts to the bank. People already get up in arms about local forecasters saying tomorrow will be X, then it is actually Y. It would be much too risky to mention an apocalyptic storm that is 10 days out.
I have mentioned it here before, but this forum allows for more scientific discussion about weather and forecasting with models. As opposed to sunshine graphics and schoolbus stop conditions. This forum is generally 'above average' when it comes to weather discussion and understanding. Thus, I thought it would be interesting to post a graphic here of the GFS 10 days out.
I Agree it does make for interesting conversations with people who when you talk about a possible storm coming up they look at you like are you crazy. then if it materializes they think hmm maybe he was on to something after all.
SoonerDave 12-18-2015, 11:06 AM Local stations would be roasted if they reported on extreme looking storm systems that are 10 days out. Because the general public takes local forecasts to the bank. People already get up in arms about local forecasters saying tomorrow will be X, then it is actually Y. It would be much too risky to mention an apocalyptic storm that is 10 days out.
I have mentioned it here before, but this forum allows for more scientific discussion about weather and forecasting with models. As opposed to sunshine graphics and schoolbus stop conditions. This forum is generally 'above average' when it comes to weather discussion and understanding. Thus, I thought it would be interesting to post a graphic here of the GFS 10 days out.
For you and with you 100% Anon!
corwin1968 12-18-2015, 11:23 AM Anyone like snow? Red colors are about a foot, and yellow is in the 20" range.
http://i.imgur.com/NLrJgvM.png
Picture isn't showing up for me...probably blocked by work server. Can you upload it to OKCTalk?
Anonymous. 12-18-2015, 11:24 AM Picture isn't showing up for me...probably blocked by work server. Can you upload it to OKCTalk?
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corwin1968 12-18-2015, 11:33 AM 11951
Thanks!!!
Bobby821 12-18-2015, 12:34 PM This is Aaron Tuttles take on the 26th-27th weekend weather.
A quick word about the potential winter storm after Christmas. Models have been hinting at a storm for quite some time now for next week. They've finally settled down on the time frame of the weekend (26/27th). However, they can't quite make up their mind on many specifics, which is understandable being 9-10 days from now. The newest trend has been an indication of an ice storm. But then again one model dumps a foot of snow in its operational run, while none of its ensemble members supports that solution. So what I'm saying is to ignore any wild specific forecasts you see at this point until the dust settles. The forecast will change a dozen times between now and then, so just know that the weekend could spell trouble. Once things become more clear and I'm confident in the outcome, I'll let you know.
NikonNurse 12-18-2015, 10:18 PM For you and with you 100% Anon!
But.....I just sat through the 10pm weather that did announce this storm.............but they arent saying for sure weather its spring like weather or snow....just that its coming........
SoonerDave 12-18-2015, 11:10 PM But.....I just sat through the 10pm weather that did announce this storm.............but they arent saying for sure weather its spring like weather or snow....just that its coming........
To be frank, that's about the only thing you can say with even a modest amount of certainty this far out...something's probably coming. Don't forget, these models might change their mind :)
Bobby821 12-19-2015, 10:43 AM Here was the statement from the NWS latest forecast this morning on this next weekends storm.
FRIDAY INTO NEXT WEEKEND...A STORM SYSTEM MAY IMPACT THE AREA AND
BRING MUCH HIGHER PRECIPITATION CHANCES. THE DETAILS WITH THIS
SYSTEM REMAIN UNCERTAIN...BUT SIGNIFICANT AMOUNTS OF PRECIPITATION
COULD OCCUR.
Boy the excitement builds waiting for this storm system to make up it's mind on what it is going to dump on us, Winter or Storms this is almost as exciting as waiting for Christmas morning.
SoonerDave 12-19-2015, 12:17 PM Here was the statement from the NWS latest forecast this morning on this next weekends storm.
FRIDAY INTO NEXT WEEKEND...A STORM SYSTEM MAY IMPACT THE AREA AND
BRING MUCH HIGHER PRECIPITATION CHANCES. THE DETAILS WITH THIS
SYSTEM REMAIN UNCERTAIN...BUT SIGNIFICANT AMOUNTS OF PRECIPITATION
COULD OCCUR.
Boy the excitement builds waiting for this storm system to make up it's mind on what it is going to dump on us, Winter or Storms this is almost as exciting as waiting for Christmas morning.
Need a combined "Fraidy Hole/Bread and Milk" warning LOL
Bobby821 12-19-2015, 02:17 PM Need a combined "Fraidy Hole/Bread and Milk" warning LOL
Good idea should put that out a few days ahead to cover all bases.
Jim Kyle 12-19-2015, 08:53 PM Long long ago in a city that's now gone forever, I was the rewrite man and general go-to-guy for the largest metropolitan newspaper. Its management decided to expand the coverage base beyond the state borders, by printing a Sunday edition that would go to press in the wee hours of Saturday morning so that it could be shipped by rail to distant states and appear on newsstands on Sunday.
I was given the job of putting that entire edition together, working overnight from sunset Friday to dawn Saturday. The task included writing a weather report about Saturday's conditions statewide, which would go to press before those conditions arrived.
My first effort read "Saturday was warm and clear except where cold and cloudy, dry except where rainy, and windy except where calm."
Management was not amused. However you're free to adopt the idea for needs here, should you so desire....
Bobby821 12-20-2015, 09:20 AM Any new info on the storm for the weekend of the 26-28th?
OKCisOK4me 12-20-2015, 02:56 PM Any new info on the storm for the weekend of the 26-28th?
I'm waiting for you to post it and be all giddy about it...
okatty 12-20-2015, 03:30 PM ^ haha...isn't that the truth!!!
Anonymous. 12-20-2015, 03:53 PM New data loading in this evening, will have an update later tonight.
bchris02 12-20-2015, 04:14 PM I'm waiting for you to post it and be all giddy about it...
Yeah! Power outages and downed trees! I'm SO EXCITED!!!!!
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