jerrywall
11-13-2015, 01:17 PM
For some dumb reason, certain young people like drawing swastikas on bathroom walls. Never seen it in this medium. Maybe it was interpretive art. I don't know. But it seems like if you walk into any bar bathroom in America you'll see a swastika drawn on the stall wall, or scratched into the paint. I have to figure 99% of the folks who do it are just IRL trolls and idiots, rather than neo-nazis.
PhiAlpha
11-14-2015, 02:38 PM
Well this seems about right...
Mizzou Protestors Are Upset That The Terrorist Attacks In Paris Are Getting More Attention Than Them - Barstool Sports (http://www.barstoolsports.com/barstoolu/mizzou-protestors-are-upset-that-the-terrorist-attacks-in-paris-are-getting-more-attention-than-them/)
dankrutka
11-14-2015, 04:36 PM
I've talked to a number of students and professors from Mizzou this week. The frustrations emanated from approaches and issues over time. The incidents that are in the media just represented the breaking point. These discussions are complex and there aren't easy answers, but a lot of the media coverage and narrative is incomplete. I know that I have no idea what it would be like being a black student at Mizzou. I have the privilege of never having had to deal with these issues, but I know they exist on every campus. I've heard a lot of frustrations from students of color from OU and OSU. I wish we could talk to each other and just start by listening...
Tundra
11-14-2015, 05:00 PM
I've talked to a number of students and professors from Mizzou this week. The frustrations emanated from approaches and issues over time. The incidents that are in the media just represented the breaking point. These discussions are complex and there aren't easy answers, but a lot of the media coverage and narrative is incomplete. I know that I have no idea what it would be like being a black student at Mizzou. I have the privilege of never having had to deal with these issues, but I know they exist on every campus. I've heard a lot of frustrations from students of color from OU and OSU. I wish we could talk to each other and just start by listening...
I wonder if white students feel the same way at Langston?
bradh
11-14-2015, 05:50 PM
I wonder if white students feel the same way at Langston?
That's a terrible argument, and an empty response. That post shows you don't want to have a discussion. I have a few white friends who went to Prairie View A&M and did experience any type of behavior towards them that you think happens at Langston.
Tundra
11-14-2015, 06:03 PM
That's a terrible argument, and an empty response. That post shows you don't want to have a discussion. I have a few white friends who went to Prairie View A&M and did experience any type of behavior towards them that you think happens at Langston.
Listen, racism still occurs today.... That's not a shock to anyone. Some places more than others, that will probably never change , we've all had some form of it at some point in our life, if you for one second think that there is not a bigger motive going on here then , you need to start digging into it a little deeper, I believe you already know though. Obama has been dividing Americans since he announced his campaign. Again it's all part of the plan , Divide and Conquer ,I'd say their doing a pretty good job.
PhiAlpha
11-14-2015, 07:10 PM
I've talked to a number of students and professors from Mizzou this week. The frustrations emanated from approaches and issues over time. The incidents that are in the media just represented the breaking point. These discussions are complex and there aren't easy answers, but a lot of the media coverage and narrative is incomplete. I know that I have no idea what it would be like being a black student at Mizzou. I have the privilege of never having had to deal with these issues, but I know they exist on every campus. I've heard a lot of frustrations from students of color from OU and OSU. I wish we could talk to each other and just start by listening...
Does that discussion involve calling anyone with a differing opinion a racist and ignoring them? That seems to happen pretty frequently when people have "talked to each other" lately.
dankrutka
11-15-2015, 05:47 AM
Does that discussion involve calling anyone with a differing opinion a racist and ignoring them? That seems to happen pretty frequently when people have "talked to each other" lately.
I called specific posts that fit the definition of racism what they were. I never called any individual person a racist, I don't make those kinds of judgments and I try to avoid labels and stick to the topic. If I didn't do that then I apologize and I'll try to do better.
There's a big difference between calling an action racist and calling a person a racist. I do believe that it's important to listen to different perspectives, but those perspectives have to be grounded in some kind of evidence. Not all spaces are conducive to constructive dialogue though... Feel free to send me a message if anyone would like to discuss this via another format. Best.