Irrelevant....

Completely irrelevant...except to the extent that he would not have been here to commit the crime...

So, are you saying all people who kill people in accidents should be deported to their family's country of origin?

Or, are you just implying that all or most people who die in accidents are the result of being hit by illegal aliens?

Just what is your point?
Wow....what a freaking ignorant response. I wasn't implying anything. Read my statement again. Is there ANY implication even hinted at? Let me restate it again for you. This time I'll be very careful to say exactly what I mean;
The suspect who is being charged in the death of Bob Barry Jr had been deported three times prior to this.

And if Bob had not been riding that ridiculous motor scooter (what is this? Sicily?) and had the intelligence to wear a damned helmet.....he wouldn't have run into an idiot making a U-turn.

LET'S ALL LET THE ANGER OUT!!!

RIP, BBJ

False. From what I heard BBJ was in the left lane and Gutirrez was in the far right lane. He pulled a u-turn from the far right lane and wound up turning right into BBJ. So basically a car just turned left, right into him, from the lane next time him. Helmet would not have matter one bit.

It would completely matter if head injury was the cause of death. And I am saying that as someone who often rides a scooter without a helmet (though never my motorcycle). BBJ was thrown 20' according to news reports, and based on crash scene footage shown on KFOR this AM it seems likely that he hit is head on a curb.

But honestly, I think it would be more appropriate to have a helmet law debate thread than hash it out in a thread that memorializes a guy who by all accounts was a first-rate human being.

It would completely matter if head injury was the cause of death. And I am saying that as someone who often rides a scooter without a helmet (though never my motorcycle). BBJ was thrown 20' according to news reports, and based on crash scene footage shown on KFOR this AM it seems likely that he hit is head on a curb.

But honestly, I think it would be more appropriate to have a helmet law debate thread than hash it out in a thread that memorializes a guy who by all accounts was a first-rate human being.

^ this...add on an illegal immigration thread. It's possible to report on facts presented in the news here without getting into a pointless argument about illegal immigration.

Completely irrelevant...except to the extent that he would not have been here to commit the crime...

So only illegal immigrants make illegal u turns? Are you saying that all motorcycle deaths involving deer are from illegal immigrant deer? Makes no difference where they are from. Fact. You have a better chance of living after a motorcycle crash if you wear a helmet. Bbj decided not to wear one. And if you really want to get real, reports say his family wanted him to stop riding his motorcycle in fear of an accident but he did anyway. So playing the game of ifs, he would still be alive if he wasn't riding a motorcycle. No matter who was here legally.

let's debate immigration and helmet laws someplace else. -M

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Could not agree more! I'll say it for about the 3rd time - great guy who we were lucky as a state to have as sportscaster, radio host and general local celeb. Loved the comments from the other channels that when BBj showed up on Friday nights at HS games he was the star of the show. Nice obit today in Oklahoman.

ICE: Man accused in crash that killed Bob Barry, Jr. had been returned to Mexico 3 times | Oklahoma City - OKC - KOCO.com (http://www.koco.com/news/ice-man-accused-in-crash-that-killed-bob-barry-jr-had-been-returned-to-mexico-3-times/33748440)


Yeah now that I know this it does make the driver of the car look a little worse.

Also like the stories about him locking keys in car in El Paso on Xmas morning. Trammel told on WWLS. Very funny.

We went this morning to Crossings Church to be a part of the memorial service for Bob Barry Jr. I am so glad we went. It was a beautiful tribute to his life. It was cool hearing all the funny stories and hearing the wonderful things about him. He was a class act and will be missed by all of us. I listened to him in the morning, and watched him on tv at night. Even though I didn't know him well, he seemed like a friend since he came in our home every day. My heart breaks for his wife and their family. His co workers are going to miss him terribly. We lost him way too soon.
The church was filled with a lot of people I knew, sports people,news people, and it was really cool to see them all. If this had been a happy occasion, you can bet I would have gone up to Bob Stoops or tried to go up to Al Eschbach or Jim Traber, but this was BBJ's day, and not a day to talk about sports or get autographs. I do say it was kinda cool that Mike Stoops held the door open for me as I left the church. BBJ's death is a tragedy and a senseless death. People need to pay attention to what they are doing when they drive. It also is nice to have a drivers license and be a legal citizen. Having cocaine in your wallet is not a cool thing either. Rest in peace BBJ. You and your mom and dad, and a lot of other special people are looking down and watching over us.

Bobby was a close fraternity brother of my father's (and a fraternity brother of mine as well), went to highschool with my mother, and I worked with one of his daughters for a little while. I didn't know him as well as I would've liked to, but between talking to him at a few fraternity alumni events every year and like so many others, listening to him on the radio every day and seeing him every night on KFOR, I felt like I knew him so much better than I did.

I was fortunate to have an opportunity to talk to him for a little while one last time at our Founder's Day party back in March, ironically about 10 hours before we all found out about what several of the young idiots among us had done that would bring our organization crashing down in the days following. As a result of that event, a lot of derogatory things have been said over the last few months about the value of fraternities and the greek system in general, especially by those who were never part of it. If you listened to the sports animal over the last week, it was pretty easy to understand how much BBJ's fraternity and fraternity brothers meant to him and between their tributes and large presence at his memorial service, how much BBJ meant to his fraternity brothers. Every year on bid day, an alumni gives a speech to the new pledges with an excerpt passed down through the years that goes something like "Look to your left and look to your right, the guys beside you will be some of your closest friends in life, they will be the groomsmen at your wedding and the pallbearers at your funeral." While that statement seemed like a dramatic stretch as 18 year old freshmen, it really hits home when something tragic like this happens. The stigma of partying and debauchery that is prevalent among the greek community certainly has its merits, but as I've said here in the past, it is about much more than that. The bonds you form with your fraternity brothers are deep, lasting ones and that has been very publicly on display this week.

My family planned to attend the funeral, but after the announcement that it was scheduled for Friday morning, were unable due to prior engagements. Fortunately, though, we were able to listen on WWLS and stream it on KFOR's website. What an awesome memorial service! I honestly don't know how anyone could've prepared a better tribute to honor BBJ. So many moving and funny stories, the service succeeded in its effort to turn a tragic event into a memorable and enjoyable celebration Bobby's life. It was really cool to hear from people in different generations of his life, from his family to his elementary - highschool friends, the 25 of his pledge brothers that took the stage, to all of those he's known in his adult/professional life.

On a personal note, back when I was in middle school my Dad asked BBJ if he could come speak to our Boy Scout troop for either the sports or journalism merit badge program our troop was hosting that month. If you've listed to the tributes on the radio all week, you know how busy the guy was throughout most of his professional life. Our scout meetings were held on Tuesdays between the 6 and 10 PM newscasts, so it was far from an ideal time frame for him. He easily could've said he was too busy (because he probably was), but without hesitation he said he would love to and put on a great presentation. He really engaged everyone and was probably one of the best speakers we had during my time with the troop. He was truly a class act and was excellent at his craft.

One thing I've been struck by over the last week is how many people that I've spoken with or heard call into the sports animal, that didn't know BBJ at all, but were very upset, emotional, or borderline depressed over his passing. I think that is a major testament the impact he's had on people in this state and abroad. All of the tributes to him over the last week, from callers on the Sports Animal to sports figures and dignitaries in OK and abroad, have been amazing. If you can live life in a way in which people speak about you with half the reverence that they've spoken of BBJ this week, you're doing pretty well.

Phi Alpha Bobby, you will be missed.