I think you guys are getting somewhere with those designs.

http://i1178.photobucket.com/albums/x378/KerryinJax/OKC%20Stuff/FLAGZ1_zpswfswwwi9.png (http://s1178.photobucket.com/user/KerryinJax/media/OKC%20Stuff/FLAGZ1_zpswfswwwi9.png.html)

Here's a quick riff off your's. However, the symbolism of this direction is skewed way too much towards government and commerce for me. Almost zero reference to people and culture outside of that. Maybe the red field speaks some to that. Maybe not.


http://s2.postimg.org/y5gbhf5q1/flag.png

I decided to drop the whole reference to commerce. The fields still spell OKC and the 3 stars are for the 3 levels of government in OKC (State, County, and City). The red and blue are from the City Seal.

This is a version that drops commerce and government and just focuses on the people. The five stars represent the peace and unity of the people. Flag still spells OKC.

http://i1178.photobucket.com/albums/x378/KerryinJax/OKC%20Stuff/FLAGZ3_zpshsz21lhe.png (http://s1178.photobucket.com/user/KerryinJax/media/OKC%20Stuff/FLAGZ3_zpshsz21lhe.png.html)

I hope the city reads this thread, some pretty cool flags are coming out of it.

alright... i actually like that last one. -M

This is a version that drops commerce and government and just focuses on the people. The five stars represent the peace and unity of the people. Flag still spells OKC.

http://i1178.photobucket.com/albums/x378/KerryinJax/OKC%20Stuff/FLAGZ3_zpshsz21lhe.png (http://s1178.photobucket.com/user/KerryinJax/media/OKC%20Stuff/FLAGZ3_zpshsz21lhe.png.html)

I like what you got going here, even the colors, but I think the original "OKC" design where the K is more pronounced and the C is flat on the end has a much cleaner look. I'd really like to see exactly what you did done in that style.

Edit, I took it upon myself to make the changes. Just my opinion, but I this this is more pronounced and cleaner and really makes the "OKC" pop.

http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii122/zuplar/City%20Flag%20Redux_zpskx29ngeg.jpg (http://s263.photobucket.com/user/zuplar/media/City%20Flag%20Redux_zpskx29ngeg.jpg.html)

I could live with that version Zupla. I under-emphasized the K so that it wasn't obvious to the casual observer - but then after having it pointed out one would wonder, "How the heck did I not see that."

I could live with any of them because a city flag really means very little in the overall scheme of things. Few would pay any attention to it at all. I do appreciate the work you have put in the designs though.

I could live with any of them because a city flag really means very little in the overaiill scheme of things. Few would pay any attention to it at all. I do appreciate the work you have put in the designs though.

That is 100% true of the current city flag. However, in cities with a distictive flag I have found it to be prominately displayed.

If one of these flags flew in the baseball stadium, outside the Arena, at City Hall, the library, the Memorial, and other promenent places people would take notice.

Exactly. Take the Chicago city flag for instance... It's distinctive and you see that thing EVERYWHERE up there.

I like the last couple versions you guys have made as well.

I could live with that version Zupla. I under-emphasized the K so that it wasn't obvious to the casual observer - but then after having it pointed out one would wonder, "How the heck did I not see that."

Yeah I get that, but at the same time I kind of like that it's obvious.

After all this work that's been done, I'd almost be interested in trying to get this out there to maybe see about getting a new city flag. All of our designs are quite a bit better than the current 'seal' flag.

Mixed feelings about using OKC the way it's being used. From a design standpoint, carving letters out a shape has been done to death and there's nothing really forward thinking about it. OTOH, there's mass appeal sometimes with those kinds of things.

I like the pennant idea that was hinted at in one of the earlier designs. Here's a riff on that. (Angular lines tend to add energy and movement. Repetition of form tends to add unity of a design. The cut in the end, repeats in the meeting of the k and and again in the star. The blue chevron is an angular shape pointing to another angular shape that makes up three points of the star.) Honestly, a public call for entries that more people would see would probably result in some designs that would knock our socks off.

http://s29.postimg.org/svq8effdz/flag.png

I was going to try that deeper cut tonight.

http://i1178.photobucket.com/albums/x378/KerryinJax/OKC%20Stuff/FLAGZ4_zpsgcolg4d7.png (http://s1178.photobucket.com/user/KerryinJax/media/OKC%20Stuff/FLAGZ4_zpsgcolg4d7.png.html)

Has this already been posted?: Every state flag is wrong, and here is why - The Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/compost/wp/2015/06/23/every-state-flag-is-wrong-and-here-is-why/?postshare=2301435099524333) Ha ha. ;)

Just for fun, I made a new state flag as well.

http://i1178.photobucket.com/albums/x378/KerryinJax/OKC%20Stuff/Oklahoma%20Flag2_zpsq5vcwjzr.png (http://s1178.photobucket.com/user/KerryinJax/media/OKC%20Stuff/Oklahoma%20Flag2_zpsq5vcwjzr.png.html)

Just for fun, I made a new state flag as well.

http://i1178.photobucket.com/albums/x378/KerryinJax/OKC%20Stuff/Oklahoma%20Flag2_zpsq5vcwjzr.png (http://s1178.photobucket.com/user/KerryinJax/media/OKC%20Stuff/Oklahoma%20Flag2_zpsq5vcwjzr.png.html)

Looks like a flag you'd see for an African country.

Looks like a flag you'd see for an African country.

I thought it did a pretty good job of reflecting Oklahoma's climate, vegetation, and geography.

http://i1178.photobucket.com/albums/x378/KerryinJax/OKC%20Stuff/FLAGZ4_zpsgcolg4d7.png (http://s1178.photobucket.com/user/KerryinJax/media/OKC%20Stuff/FLAGZ4_zpsgcolg4d7.png.html)

These design ideas are starting to look pretty good.

http://i1178.photobucket.com/albums/x378/KerryinJax/OKC%20Stuff/FLAGZ4_zpsgcolg4d7.png (http://s1178.photobucket.com/user/KerryinJax/media/OKC%20Stuff/FLAGZ4_zpsgcolg4d7.png.html)

Has the scissor tail thing going too. 😉

same design but different color combinations.

http://i1178.photobucket.com/albums/x378/KerryinJax/OKC%20Stuff/Oklahoma%20Flag3_zpsuyo5j3df.png (http://s1178.photobucket.com/user/KerryinJax/media/OKC%20Stuff/Oklahoma%20Flag3_zpsuyo5j3df.png.html)

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BTW, JTF, your animated city flag avatar is cool.

BTW, JTF, your animated city flag avatar is cool.

Yes, it is.

Here's one with a sun instead of stars.

http://s12.postimg.org/qjqwv31jx/Flagsun.jpg

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i was thinking along those lines but instead of the sun, the city seal could be used. it'd be a compromise between the current design and a newer, fresher alternative. -M

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i was thinking along those lines but instead of the sun, the city seal could be used. it'd be a compromise between the current design and a newer, fresher alternative. -M

Good idea. Could also drop black (or some color) line art of the city seal over the yellow.

Going back to the original design criteria - the city seal shouldn't be used. The current city flag uses the City Seal but it is too much detail to be on a flag. Plus, at the top of a flag pole it is too small to see from the ground.

Also - the stars have meaning that can't be replicated by the sun. They represent the people living in peace with each other and each playing their role to complete the circle. In short, the 5 stars represent a whole greater than the sum of the parts.

One other thing - the red, white, and blue are from the City Seal.

Going back to the original design criteria - the city seal shouldn't be used. The current city flag uses the City Seal but it is too much detail to be on a flag. Plus, at the top of a flag pole it is too small to see from the ground.

Also - the stars have meaning that can't be replicated by the sun. They represent the people living in peace with each other and each playing their role to complete the circle. In short, the 5 stars represent a whole greater than the sum of the parts.

Circles have the same meaning in most cultures. The five stars make up a circle.

(Why five stars?)

Red, yellow and blue make up a triad of color, a balanced color scheme from a design perspective and whatever that implies.

I did 5 stars because that was the size that fit, and still be able to tell they were stars from a distance. They also form a pentagram in the center, which has all kinds of meanings and symbolism of its own. As for the colors, like I said, they came from the City Seal which has those 3 colors on it.

On the State flag, I did use red, yellow, and blue.

The lone 46th star from the original Oklahoma flag would have worked well in the red field of that design and paid homage to Oklahoma's early history as a state.

Yea, I tried it with just a single star but it didn't look as good as I thought, plus, after feedback and discussions with others, I decided the City flag shouldn't have state representation on it (nor corporate interest like my original design had). Likewise, I left off any references to cities or industries on the State flag.

single star single star, sun, unity, letter O, triad color scheme, long version, short version, plus.

http://s21.postimg.org/539c1dexz/Flagyellostarshortred.jpg

Not bad, I just really dislike that it isn't squared off on the end like a normal flag.

Red hills, blue sky and whatever. More balanced from a design perspective. Less expensive to have made.

http://s22.postimg.org/au8iedoip/flagredtored.png

Can you do the sun and star in white and see what that looks like?

http://s2.postimg.org/shl5gqyjt/flagredtoredwhitestar.jpg

Some really good ideas. Kerry, I like several you have come up with and I guess most of the others are just modifications of your design. Some of them are worth considering. I don't like that last one only because it looks too "busy." But, he's contributed some good stuff in this thread.

I also agree that once there is a really good city flag - we could see it darn near everywhere. It shows a sense of pride that we should have for our city.

I like the last iteration with the white star, but if we wanted to get rid of the scissor tail, what if we want back to my original concept with the thicker "K" and squared off "C."

Some really good ideas. Kerry, I like several you have come up with and I guess most of the others are just modifications of your design. Some of them are worth considering. I don't like that last one only because it looks too "busy." But, he's contributed some good stuff in this thread.

I also agree that once there is a really good city flag - we could see it darn near everywhere. It shows a sense of pride that we should have for our city.

I believe most are iterations based on Shadowstrings' design.


I like the last iteration with the white star, but if we wanted to get rid of the scissor tail, what if we want back to my original concept with the thicker "K" and squared off "C."

http://s8.postimg.org/isi081z5h/Flagsun3.png

Yeah, I have to admit I think the five star, scissor tail flag is the best design so far... Followed closely by the single star in a circle design. I'd be proud as heck to fly either one in front of my house.

This is my current personal favorite in the series. It's less formal than I would expect a city government to embrace.

http://s13.postimg.org/3x0f9q7zr/Flagsun.png

Sorry Shadowstrings. I didn't mean to slight you, I was just mistaken about Kerry putting that design up first. Thanks mkjeeves for pointing it out.

I think my favorite one so far is the one that is Kerry's profile pic. I really like the five stars.

On a related note, since my living space is going to be reduced my hobbies need to start taking up less space as well so I am going to start collecting the 3" x 5" flags. I can buy State and National flags on-line but does anyone know a local place that I can get custom made mini-flags for cities? Most cities don't have flags available in that size.

for that size i wonder if your best bet is a monogram/embroidery shop. -M

Sorry, 4"x 6".

Like this.
Miniature State Flags - (http://www.miniatureflagshop.com/mistfl.html)

You might try emailing those folks? Maybe they would like to expand their line if they had an idea there might be some demand. For one-off, inkjet fabric or iron-on transfers?

Sorry, 4"x 6".
gotcha... if you don't want/need the flags to be embroidered, then maybe a screen printing shop could help you out. -M

Maybe I should just go on Alibaba and order 100 of each and sell them myself.

...and I'll make my own design for cities with bad ones.

Maybe I should just go on Alibaba and order 100 of each and sell them myself.

...and I'll make my own design for cities with bad ones.

I bought 300 4" square embroidered patches via email from someone named Mimi in Taiwan back in 2007 using an email address someone gave me. Cost me something like $238 and then the customs hit me with another $70 or so import fee. (They actually called me from where ever they intercepted them.)

I looked up the old emails. The internet has gotten better since then. It was these people and they show making flags. I don't think they had a website at the time. I wired them the money. We did all the rest of it with email. Fedx package was $70 of the cost.

They were give-aways. I hadn't planned on paying an import fee and that hurt the budget a bit. Professional custom patches by Hsin Ruey Embroidery (http://www.hsinruey.com/)

...and I'll make my own design for cities with bad ones.

You could start with a SoSA flag.

SoSA? South of St Anthony's?

SoSA? South of St Anthony's?

Rebranded by slick PR, guerrilla urban design warfare, or whathaveyou, as opposed to democratically.

The flag on street signs

http://i1178.photobucket.com/albums/x378/KerryinJax/OKC%20Stuff/streetsign_zpsbt1axctn.png (http://s1178.photobucket.com/user/KerryinJax/media/OKC%20Stuff/streetsign_zpsbt1axctn.png.html)

I'd really like to see one of these designs get pushed forward. It is a unique and marketable design, I think.

Get some of the 5-star design flags printed up in a 3'x5' size, and I will happily buy one. I would LOVE to fly this design in front of my house!

I know people at the City read this board. I wish they would pick it up and run with it.