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Some of the AM/PM's are quite nice.

There seems to be a strong trend in that industry of being much nicer and generally larger.

I am just not a fan of their gas. The stores themselves are nice.

Oh wow, AM/PM... it's too bad Arco gas is garbage

My first choice of gas is shell or mobile. Chevron, Phillips, ConocoPhillips, or BP aren’t bad choices. 7 eleven seems to be a mixed bag having their own fuel blend or other brands they carry. I really like the new 7 eleven at Coltrane and 2nd street.

I have a friend from Egypt who I talked into moving to OKC and I’m here helping him get situated and we both went to the new OnCue at I-35 and 15th and he was in awe at the gas station. I admit I was pretty impressed too as it had to have been the nicest gas station I’ve ever been to.

My first choice of gas is shell or mobile. Chevron, Phillips, ConocoPhillips, or BP aren’t bad choices. 7 eleven seems to be a mixed bag having their own fuel blend or other brands they carry. I really like the new 7 eleven at Coltrane and 2nd street.

I have a friend from Egypt who I talked into moving to OKC and I’m here helping him get situated and we both went to the new OnCue at I-35 and 15th and he was in awe at the gas station. I admit I was pretty impressed too as it had to have been the nicest gas station I’ve ever been to.

I can't believe you've never been to a Buc-ee's. The one across from Texas Motor Speedway is simply astounding lol.

I can't believe you've never been to a Buc-ee's. The one across from Texas Motor Speedway is simply astounding lol.

I’ve heard of them. I need to check it out next time I’m in Dallas. It would be cool to see one here.

Go don't just go to visit a Bucee's. You go to *experience* a Bucee's. They are phenomenal.

They're what you'd get if Hobby Lobby married OnCue and had a kid. A really big kid, with fresh barbecue sandwiches during the day.

You could put maybe FOUR OnCue's in ONE Bucee's.

Ya GOTTA go see one. The newest one is in Denton just off I-35E.

My son and I were making a big deal of this place to my wife/his mom, and she was like "ok, yeah, whatever," and then she went on a trip with some girlfriends and they stopped there...she came back and said, "oh my gosh, you were right..."

Don't ever buy gas at an OKC 7-Eleven. They source the cheapest gas they can get. Stick with any of the top tier gas places... OnCue, Shell, Conoco, Phillip's 66.

I'm glad to hear that the local 7-Eleven's are being bought finally. Personally between the horrible gas and the fact that they gave us the crappiest stores all those years they were in a protected market only to start upgrading when OnCue started kicking their ass... I won't patronize any of them again.

I would doubt QT would now come to OKC given OnCue has filled the void with what is essentially a nearly identical product.

The Lost Ogle seems to have confirmed this sale is taking place and employees have been informed:
https://www.thelostogle.com/2020/01/09/central-oklahoma-7-eleven-stores-being-sold-to-corporate-overlords/

I think there are a few areas where QT could move in. But I won’t be safe if they don’t. What is the advantage of QT over OnCue?

This can only be a good thing, although with OnCue I never use 7/11 anyway.

The Lost Ogle seems to have confirmed this sale is taking place and employees have been informed:
https://www.thelostogle.com/2020/01/09/central-oklahoma-7-eleven-stores-being-sold-to-corporate-overlords/

And QuikTrip responded to TheLostOgles tweet which I thought was cool. They definitely have gotten an earful from people over the years wanting them to expand into okc. I bet you anything they end up doing it.

If QT came here, it wouldn't hurt OnCue... It would hurt all those incredibly crappy c-stores scattered all over the city, including most the 7-11's.

Quality competition is a good thing.

The Lost Ogle seems to have confirmed this sale is taking place and employees have been informed:
https://www.thelostogle.com/2020/01/09/central-oklahoma-7-eleven-stores-being-sold-to-corporate-overlords/

The statement that corporate 7-11 will cut employee salaries by $4/hr is alarming. If you think service is bad now...

The statement that corporate 7-11 will cut employee salaries by $4/hr is alarming. If you think service is bad now...The Brown’s paid their people very well, treated them right. Ever wonder why so many stores have people with 15,20, even 30+ pins? Because they are paid well, are VERY loyal to the family who treats them right. There’s been problems with many of the stores, but you cannot take away the fact they have paid their people very well and were ahead of their time in doing so in that sector. If for no other reason, we should be proud of OKC stores owned since the 50s by the Brown’s. People at Dallas stores know about the independent OKC stores and their salaries and a couple I talked to were in awe. They said everyone hears about the OKC stores and their compensation.Not surprised to hear they’ve already told employees of deeply slashed wages. I’ll never go to one again after the sale.

The Brown’s paid their people very well, treated them right. Ever wonder why so many stores have people with 15,20, even 30+ pins? Because they are paid well, are VERY loyal to the family who treats them right. There’s been problems with many of the stores, but you cannot take away the fact they have paid their people very well and were ahead of their time in doing so in that sector. If for no other reason, we should be proud of OKC stores owned since the 50s by the Brown’s. People at Dallas stores know about the independent OKC stores and their salaries and a couple I talked to were in awe. They said everyone hears about the OKC stores and their compensation.Not surprised to hear they’ve already told employees of deeply slashed wages. I’ll never go to one again after the sale.

Eh... some of that totally depends who you talk to. I'm a regular at a couple of 7-11's and over the years I've known several people who left because management changes over the years made it unbearable to work there. One lady had right at 20 years in and said she was fed up and left. Others tell me they get transferred across town after being promised they wouldn't be. One of those people literally lived in the apartment complex behind their store and shared a car with three members of their family. The move across the city caused a lot of problems and they were given no reason. Paying above average often means your employees are just forced to 'take it' because they can't simply go to work for the competition.

That said, I've known other people that were happy enough working for 7-11 because they felt they couldn't make more anywhere else and they felt the work was fairly easy. It's also good for the otherwise retired or students in college.

I actually worked for 7-11 decades ago for a short time. I did overnights. The pay was above average for the type of work and I was pretty much left alone. But I couldn't imagine it being anything more than a transitional job. That said, I had no real complaints. The biggest con IMO were some of the customers.

If the Dallas 7-11 group bought the OKC 7-11, I wonder if QT would come and open up some stores in OKC??

IMO this would be the exact perfect time for QucikTrip to buy OnCue.

IMO this would be the exact perfect time for QucikTrip to buy OnCue.

Makes a lot of sense. QT is very specific about their stores and design, however OnCue's latest store is very very similar to QuikTrip Gen3 store with layout and probably could be modified to closely match QT.

QT does compete with similar styles of C-stores in DFW, so it wouldn't be unlikely that they would strategically go against OnCue, but at the rate OnCue is expanding and existing footprint in OKC, they already have an advantage with location and loyal market share in Oklahoma City.

QuikTrip has an entire team that strategically looks at traffic patterns, major intersections/locations, and everything else when building a store, so they would not enter OKC without having a well established game plan. They are also extremely fast with building a store from ground breaking to opening.

Feels like the OKC market will just belong to Oncue. 7/11 F’d around too long and QT was obviously barred from entering bc of the 7/11 Antitrust Deal. Not necessarily a bad thing, but it would be nice if Oncue would start catering to some of its white collar customers. There’s too much focus on prepared food, which provides nice margins but brings in a lot of rough customers (i.e., construction guys, day laborers, etc.). Need to start stocking some of the better Kombuchas, offering rare blends of Coffee and installing at least a few pieces of Granite and Stacked Stone if they want to keep the big money customers coming back on the reg.

Feels like the OKC market will just belong to Oncue. 7/11 F’d around too long and QT was obviously barred from entering bc of the 7/11 Antitrust Deal. Not necessarily a bad thing, but it would be nice if Oncue would start catering to some of its white collar customers. There’s too much focus on prepared food, which provides nice margins but brings in a lot of rough customers (i.e., construction guys, day laborers, etc.). Need to start stocking some of the better Kombuchas, offering rare blends of Coffee and installing at least a few pieces of Granite and Stacked Stone if they want to keep the big money customers coming back on the reg.

Don't starbucks my on-cue :)

Feels like the OKC market will just belong to Oncue. 7/11 F’d around too long and QT was obviously barred from entering bc of the 7/11 Antitrust Deal. Not necessarily a bad thing, but it would be nice if Oncue would start catering to some of its white collar customers. There’s too much focus on prepared food, which provides nice margins but brings in a lot of rough customers (i.e., construction guys, day laborers, etc.). Need to start stocking some of the better Kombuchas, offering rare blends of Coffee and installing at least a few pieces of Granite and Stacked Stone if they want to keep the big money customers coming back on the reg.

Are there such concepts in other cities? Seems like a bit of stretch to have a "white collar" targeted gas station. The filthy poors should be welcome at all gas stations, no?

if they want to keep the big money customers coming back on the reg.

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say the construction guys and day laborers are the big money customers. They arrive in teams and buy multiple energy drinks, coffee, hot and cold food items, and load up on gasoline if they are a lawn mowing service or similar. OnCue has also added more grab-and-go dining seating and food options with their "The Grill" concept in newer stores. They would much rather have a team of laborers come in and drop $10-15 each day on items than a person coming in once a week when they fill up and grab a $1.35 specialty coffee.

Feels like the OKC market will just belong to Oncue. 7/11 F’d around too long and QT was obviously barred from entering bc of the 7/11 Antitrust Deal. Not necessarily a bad thing, but it would be nice if Oncue would start catering to some of its white collar customers. There’s too much focus on prepared food, which provides nice margins but brings in a lot of rough customers (i.e., construction guys, day laborers, etc.). Need to start stocking some of the better Kombuchas, offering rare blends of Coffee and installing at least a few pieces of Granite and Stacked Stone if they want to keep the big money customers coming back on the reg.

I got my laugh for the day! Thx!

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say the construction guys and day laborers are the big money customers. They arrive in teams and buy multiple energy drinks, coffee, hot and cold food items, and load up on gasoline if they are a lawn mowing service or similar. OnCue has also added more grab-and-go dining seating and food options with their "The Grill" concept in newer stores. They would much rather have a team of laborers come in and drop $10-15 each day on items than a person coming in once a week when they fill up and grab a $1.35 specialty coffee.This is a fair point, but it’s also rather obvious (to anyone who has visited a WaWa or Sheetz back East) that this type of concept can be executed on a much higher level than what OnCue is currently showcasing. Go to any Sheetz and the prepared food is better, the stores are nicer (tons of granite, stacked stone and transitional LED chandeliers throughout the store), the craft beer section is both larger and more competitively priced, etc. Seems like too often we settle for “good enough” in OKC, which is why we’ve been overrun by the 7/11s, Walmarts and Homelands of the world for many years now.

Go to any Sheetz and the prepared food is better, the stores are nicer (tons of granite, stacked stone and transitional LED chandeliers throughout the store), the craft beer section is both larger and more competitively priced, etc. Seems like too often we settle for “good enough” in OKC, which is why we’ve been overrun by the 7/11s, Walmarts and Homelands of the world for many years now.

Just searched Sheetz and WaWa C-Stores. I'll agree those stores are a step above what OnCue offers and definitely geared at serving a different demographic with their offerings and overall store setup. Looks like a lot more fresh food options outside of the standard pizza slices, chicken tenders, burgers, and burrito rollers.

I'm not sure we deserve something this nice in OKC :p

To OnCue’s credit, I’ll admit they are doing a better job with some of the newer locations. I noticed the Blackwelder location has a full wall dedicated to Oklahoma Craft Beers, which is a very nice touch.

Funny I just saw this article: https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/12/business/convenience-stores-wawa-caseys-sheetz-7-eleven/index.html?fbclid=IwAR27fILBw6vFb2k5Us-EAh7BZt4KqMe-RqqK7O1L3YcNhzU5hbqri9dzc94

To OnCue’s credit, I’ll admit they are doing a better job with some of the newer locations. I noticed the Blackwelder location has a full wall dedicated to Oklahoma Craft Beers, which is a very nice touch.

You also can't fault locations for a skimpy alcohol selection when many of them were built when only 3.2 beer could be sold.

When I grew up in Philadelphia, the WAWA stores where like the little 7-11's. Now they are like On-Cue, popping up everywhere with these huge stores. When I'm home to visit I always wind up at one either for gas or a drink. Last time I even got a hoagie.

If what i'm told is true (very reliable resource) the convenience store market may be in for a big change. I'm told the that the Texas based Bucee's chain is in the process of buying property near the Riverwind casino for their first Oklahoma store.

I can confirm it as well. I think that this is going to be a very positive change.

If what i'm told is true (very reliable resource) the convenience store market may be in for a big change. I'm told the that the Texas based Bucee's chain is in the process of buying property near the Riverwind casino for their first Oklahoma store.

Let's hope not. I have no defense for beaver nuggets.

If what i'm told is true (very reliable resource) the convenience store market may be in for a big change. I'm told the that the Texas based Bucee's chain is in the process of buying property near the Riverwind casino for their first Oklahoma store.

I had just recently thought to myself that the river wind area would be the ideal spot for bucees

I had just recently thought to myself that the river wind area would be the ideal spot for bucees

I'll second that, as long as they also put one on the north side. :D

I-44/Kilpatrick/I-35 interchange at the 122nd Exit. You could put it just north of Cracker Barrell or somewhere else off the 122nd exit. or another option would be somewhere off I-35 near the Adventure District and I-44 Interchange.

SE Corner of Hefner & I-35 would be perfect for a Buc-ee's.

7-Eleven Inc. to Acquire Independent 7-Eleven Stores of Oklahoma (https://csnews.com/7-eleven-inc-acquire-independent-7-eleven-stores-oklahoma)
01/17/2020

IRVING, Texas — 7-Eleven Inc. reached an agreement to add more than 100 independently run 7-Eleven-branded convenience stores in Oklahoma.

Under the pact, the retail chain will acquire 7-Eleven Stores of Oklahoma, which has been operating 7-Eleven-branded locations in central Oklahoma for nearly seven decades. The deal is expected to close in 60 to 90 days.

According to 7-Eleven Inc., all of the c-stores are located in the greater Oklahoma City metropolitan area, bringing the total number of 7-Eleven stores in the United States and Canada to more than 9,700.

"Oklahoma has a growing economy, and this acquisition provides a great opportunity for us to expand regionally," said 7-Eleven Inc. President and CEO Joe DePinto.

7-Eleven Stores of Oklahoma was started by the Bill and Carol Brown, who moved to Oklahoma City with a plan to open "a chain of conveniently located stores that stocked all the things you want or need in the moment, from ice and refreshments to basic grocery staples." Family friends in Dallas, the Thompsons, had begun developing the 7-Eleven idea, and the Brown family set out to do likewise in central Oklahoma, according to the company's website.

They opened their first location at the intersection of NW 23rd and Portland in Oklahoma City in 1953. Their son Jim Brown is the current president and CEO.

Seven & i Holdings Co., Ltd., the parent company of Irving-based 7‑Eleven Inc., operates almost 70,000 stores in 17 countries globally.

Man if we could get some Seven * i Holdings like I've seen in Japan. That might make me leave OnCue...

Also, yay for lottery ticket sales.

Does this mean we'll get pizza in them like the Dallas area? Because honestly that pizza slaps

and here comes QT

and here comes QT

Sure hope so.

If the 90 super crappy 7-11's are still drawing people, then clearly there is room in this market for QT.

and here comes QT
From your post to God's ears!

I would just be ok with the Slurpees being sold here -.- Maybe they are now, I haven't been in a 7-11 in a while. But for a long time, they never were sold here.

7-Eleven Inc. announces acquisition of 7-Eleven Stores in central Oklahoma

Irving, Texas-based 7-Eleven Inc. announced Friday it is acquiring a chain of more than 100, locally-owned 7 Eleven Stores in central Oklahoma that operated independently for 67 years.

https://ecp.yusercontent.com/mail?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcdn2.newsok.biz%2Fcache%2Fr 960_blur-394db690dfa4b826da49d4258c5e26af.jpg&t=1579287965&ymreqid=25fbd58b-0389-fdf5-1c42-30000101a300&sig=_CvVLYD5QUdx0F2dSc5sOw--~C

Hilarious that OKCTalk and TLO got the news out 8 days before the Joklahoman did (saw it on their "Breaking News" chyron this morning when I got into Lackmeyer's chat and I just rolled my eyes). Maybe it was on their site before somewhere, though, I don't read the Joklahoman, and also maybe they had to wait until it was official, but it's still one more fail from them.

The Oklahoman picked up the story off a press release.

This whole situation reminds me so much of Blockbuster vs. Netflix.

Blockbuster had a monopoly for a while and completely abused their customers with late fees... Then Netflix came along and first started doing it by mail (a better way, with no late fees) and then Blockbuster tried to match them but by then almost everyone had moved on to Netflix and many would never give Blockbuster another dime. It didn't take long for Blockbuster to completely collapse, not very long after having thousands of locations and a firm grip on that market. And of course, Netflix became an absolute force.

So, here we are again. 7-Eleven abused their monopoly for so long in OKC that many will go out of their way to now give business to OnCue. And if QT comes to town.... Fahgettaboudit.

The Oklahoman picked up the story off a press release.

Figured as much, presumably this same one, lol....

https://www.okctalk.com/showthread.php?t=40418&p=1101980#post1101980

Just how much of an upgrade with new stores will 7 Eleven invest in the Oklahoma City market remains to be seen.

The time (IMO) is ripe for QT to enter the OKC area.

Recently opened larger 7 Eleven store at Rockwell & west Reno is a nice store. They do have a concern with vagrants hanging out because there are numerous outdoor tent squatters in that area across the street near the creek on Rockwell.

The QT stores in Tulsa are really nice & clean; although I've only been to 2 QTs in Tulsa, haven't seen armed security in their stores. As for 7 Eleven, you often wonder what's up when you see armed security in some stores after 10 p.m.

This whole situation reminds me so much of Blockbuster vs. Netflix.

Blockbuster had a monopoly for a while and completely abused their customers with late fees... Then Netflix came along and first started doing it by mail (a better way, with no late fees) and then Blockbuster tried to match them but by then almost everyone had moved on to Netflix and many would never give Blockbuster another dime. It didn't take long for Blockbuster to completely collapse, not very long after having thousands of locations and a firm grip on that market. And of course, Netflix became an absolute force.

So, here we are again. 7-Eleven abused their monopoly for so long in OKC that many will go out of their way to now give business to OnCue. And if QT comes to town.... Fahgettaboudit.

Was just going to say, I would have to imagine that 7-Eleven corporate is going to outright close a significant percentage of these stores. A lot of them can still remain relevant once they're remodeled, but I can't imagine locations like NW 59th & May or NW 36th & Penn are long for this world.

The QT stores in Tulsa are really nice & clean; although I've only been to 2 QTs in Tulsa, haven't seen armed security in their stores. As for 7 Eleven, you often wonder what's up when you see armed security in some stores after 10 p.m.

Visit Tulsa more often and you will find plenty of dumpy QTs. Just depends on the area, like anything else.

Even the lowest QTs are nicer than your average 7/11, circle k's, shells, and what have you.

In many ways, this reminds me of the Sams Costco remarks. Well, Costco isn’t driving out Sams, and the newer Sams are fully as nice as Costco and remain very busy. The new 7-11s here are nice, and absolutely competitive. The small footprint older landlocked ones will probably be killled off. But all with strategic location will still work.

Btw, I’ve been to a number of older QTs that aren’t so swell either. Comparing old 7-11 to new QT isn’t apples to apples. New 7-11 is better than old QT. Both have evolved and you certainly expect newer to be more market sensitive.

The biggest cause of the OKC 7-Eleven's downfall, IMO, is just that they were way too slow to upgrade a lot of their stores. The one on the SW corner of Robinson & Flood in Norman is a perfect example. That store sits on a prime location in one of the heaviest trafficked intersections in the area, it was outdated from the moment it was built, and they never bothered to try and make improvements.

As long as 7-11 does not offer Top Tier gas I will not patronize any of their locations. Gas quality is where I stop for fuel.

I wonder if the corporate HQ for 7 Eleven stores will ship change gas suppliers in OKC area and go national? Down in DFW area their gas suppliers are Mobil/Exon.

As long as 7-11 does not offer Top Tier gas I will not patronize any of their locations. Gas quality is where I stop for fuel.

Agree, I have fueled up at OnCue exclusively for a couple of years now because of this.

Taking a step back, and I see this as an incredible American success story.

A man who helps start a new business concept leaves happy and is the only person to get his own territory. Their company winds up being the largest convenience store chain on earth, with over 9,000 locations. The OKC stores are the only family owned locations. From about 1955, the Brown family assembles about 150 real estate parcels, and 110 operating 7-11 stores. I'm guessing they are debt-free.

I think a conservative guess of the raw dirt value of their real estate is over $100 million. Add in the structure value and enterprise value, and I'm gonna guess this service company built by Okies, for Okies is a half-billion dollar enterprise. Family owned, debt free.

Let me get crazy and mention Sylvan Goldman inventing the shopping cart, which begat the modern grocery store; Tom & Judy Love creating Love's Country Stores and Travel Stops, etc., and it no exaggeration to claim that Oklahoma City is the birthplace of American consumer commodity convenience.

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One thing that can definitely be said is that these 7-11s are definitely unique and an OKC staple.

https://s3.amazonaws.com/gs-waymarking-images/3748f944-a6c4-4586-881b-145fd2091a5b_d.JPG

With that said, the writing was on the wall once OnCue started blanketing the metro with locations. Here in Arizona, QT is doing the same thing to Circle K.

Who supplies local 7-11 their gasoline and why are they considered subpar? I’ve used their gas for years and never have seen any difference from that I’ve purchased elsewhere.