Building permit application today for 8930 S. Sooner Rd.

Only $60k; may be 7/11 expanding into the adjacent rent space.

Reno and Rockwell.

http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/711031218.jpg

Has the development across the freeway started yet?

Has the development across the freeway started yet?

? Not sure which development you mean?

Deercrest Marketplace.

Deercrest Marketplace.

That's Rockwell and Memorial.

And no, for some reason that huge Walmart -- which is the 1st phase -- has not started yet.

Sorry for the mixup but thanks for the information.

Any word on 7 Eleven at 23rd and Council? Its been a long time since they bull-dozed the buildings there for a new store. Wondering if there was change of plans.

Heard late yesterday that an announcement is coming soon that all Oklahoma 7 Eleven stores have been sold !!!!

Heard late yesterday that an announcement is coming soon that all Oklahoma 7 Eleven stores have been sold !!!!
I can't believe this is true...

Heard late yesterday that an announcement is coming soon that all Oklahoma 7 Eleven stores have been sold !!!!

Does that mean they'll start carrying lotto tickets?

The lottery issue is a “dont want to keep cash on hand to get robbed” issue, not a moral stance of the owner issue.

I wonder what this will do to the 'handshake agreement' between the Brown family and QuikTrip. OnCue seems to have stepped in where QT refused to, so will QT say nevermind or will they go for it?

Can anyone confirm at this point that this news is accurate?

The lottery issue is a “dont want to keep cash on hand to get robbed” issue, not a moral stance of the owner issue.

Admittedly, I haven't stepped into a 7-eleven since Oncue came onto the scene. Didn't they have a sticker somewhere saying there's no more than $25 in the register and that they don't have change for anything above a $20?

Don’t know about the total amount, but at least half the times I’m in one of the stores they are dropping bills in the safe and getting change out.

The best thing about the local 7-Elevens is the fact they don't sell lottery tickets.

The best thing about the local 7-Elevens is the fact they don't sell lottery tickets.

You might change your mind on that if the rumor is true. I was completely shocked the first time I visited a 7-Eleven in Texas and they actually wanted to charge an ATM fee. I'd say the best thing is the no transaction fee.

The best thing about this are urban 7 Elevens for the Dowtown area. Hopefully this is true. I agree with Stee about the lotto tickets it is very frustrating when you want to grab a quick item and the person in front of you takes 10 mins for lotto tickets.

You might change your mind on that if the rumor is true. I was completely shocked the first time I visited a 7-Eleven in Texas and they actually wanted to charge an ATM fee. I'd say the best thing is the no transaction fee.

The last time I withdrew cash was back in November and I still have some of that withdrawal left in my wallet. Its not really an issue to me. Standing behind somebody in line while they redeem lottery tickets and then contemplate their next lotto purchase is even worse then waiting on somebody to write a check.

You might change your mind on that if the rumor is true. I was completely shocked the first time I visited a 7-Eleven in Texas and they actually wanted to charge an ATM fee. I'd say the best thing is the no transaction fee.

I thought no-fee usage was a TransFund thing, not a 7-11 thing. On-Cue has TransFund ATMs, and I'd bet they don't charge either.

I thought no-fee usage was a TransFund thing, not a 7-11 thing. On-Cue has TransFund ATMs, and I'd bet they don't charge either.

Do you charge to use the ATMs at your locations?

No. All ATMs at 7-Eleven stores in Oklahoma are free of surcharges. However, you should check with your financial institution to ensure they don’t add charges for using an ATM that is not their own.
(https://ok7-eleven.com/about/faq/)

I know Transfund does advertise the same. The point, however, was that 7-Eleven outside of Oklahoma does not have this perk.

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I know Transfund does advertise the same. The point, however, was that 7-Eleven outside of Oklahoma does not have this perk.

Yeah, I know, and my point was that if OK 7-Elevens get bought by the national 7-Eleven, Oklahomans can use On-Cue or QuikTrip for surcharge-free ATMs if the national 7-Eleven decides to change ATMs in OK stores and start implementing surcharge fees. I believe TransFund ATMs are the ones in 7-Eleven, On-Cue and QuikTrip, but not totally certain since I rarely use them and just haven't noticed.

Yeah, I know, and my point was that if OK 7-Elevens get bought by the national 7-Eleven, Oklahomans can use On-Cue or QuikTrip for surcharge-free ATMs if the national 7-Eleven decides to change ATMs in OK stores and start implementing surcharge fees. I believe TransFund ATMs are the ones in 7-Eleven, On-Cue and QuikTrip, but not totally certain since I rarely use them and just haven't noticed.

You are correct, all three stores you've mentioned have TransFund ATMs. I used to use them regularly when I used cash more often.

I can't believe this is true...
So, can anyone verify this is true?

Anyone know what's up with the store on 63rd and Portland. They took the signs down, put paper on the windows, and emptied the gas. Weird, I was just there a couple of days ago.

Heard late yesterday that an announcement is coming soon that all Oklahoma 7 Eleven stores have been sold !!!!

Just doesn't make any sense...for lots of reasons. But we'll see.

Anyone know what's up with the store on 63rd and Portland. They took the signs down, put paper on the windows, and emptied the gas. Weird, I was just there a couple of days ago.

That is strange. I can't find any sort of permits for future work.

They don't own that site so maybe they are just shutting down and putting their resources into their new and remodeled spaces.

They are penned in at this location so no way to expand or add any of their newer features.

Just doesn't make any sense...for lots of reasons. But we'll see.

I actually had heard there was a major change in ownership coming very soon from a source that is very trustworthy and is in a position to know. But yes I hear the 7-11 stranglehold will be changing wildly very soon.

I actually had heard there was a major change in ownership coming very soon from a source that is very trustworthy and is in a position to know. But yes I hear the 7-11 stranglehold will be changing wildly very soon.

Wow. Right in the midst of all these rebuilds and new store concepts. If "national" 7-11 is new owner, what will they do with these stores that don't match their corporate theming? Why would local 7-11 bail? I mean, may make perfect businss sense on the inside, but from the outside its a head-scratcher.

Maybe Oncue has been more disruptive then we thought which would make sense. They have been up and up while 7-11 has been slow to react.

Maybe Oncue has been more disruptive then we thought which would make sense. They have been up and up while 7-11 has been slow to react.

We use to go to 7 Eleven for gas all the time, it was and still is the closest fuel location to our neighborhood. The 7 Eleven store, while built from the ground up a few years ago, is one of the typical white wall, brown floor, white fluorescent lighting that most of the other stores mirror.

Ever since OnCue opened up a location a mile down the road, 7 Eleven Stores aren't even on our radar. We drive twice as far (2 miles compared to 1 mile) for the OnCue experience.

Additionally, OnCue's attention to items like food, snacks, and fountain drinks, usually means they will not only get our gas purchase, but anywhere from $2-$7 additional in "c-store" items since the overall experience is better. When we went to 7 Eleven, I think we went in twice, both experiences gave us no reason to step foot into the store again for food or fountain drink purchases.

I applaud OnCue's efforts for filling the OKC "QuikTrip" void with a very positive and innovative experience for their guests. They seem to put a lot of effort and capital into their store locations and upkeep, and it appears they have developed a very local loyal following.

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Yep, I've always disliked the local 7 Elevens for their cluttered and seemingly dirty stores and a general standard that is far below what you see in most similar chains.

Now, I'll got out of my way for OnCue and don't think I've been to a 7 Eleven in years now and may never again.

I’ve had a slightly different experience with the 7-11 on May and NW 150th and the OnCue a mile south.

The 7-11 is always clean, folks are always friendly, and they usually do a good job rotating out the roller grill stock while the OnCue items have some high mileage on them.

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Yep, I've always disliked the local 7 Elevens for their cluttered and seemingly dirty stores and a general standard that is far below what you see in most similar chains.

Now, I'll got out of my way for OnCue and don't think I've been to a 7 Eleven in years now and may never again.

Ditto.

Of course I'll say I was never much of a 7-11 guy.

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Yep, I've always disliked the local 7 Elevens for their cluttered and seemingly dirty stores and a general standard that is far below what you see in most similar chains.

Now, I'll got out of my way for OnCue and don't think I've been to a 7 Eleven in years now and may never again.

I live close to the 7 Eleven on Western, so I go there occasionally because of convenience. When the NW Expressway OnCue gets built, I will likely never visit a & Eleven again.

OnCue is making it easy to avoid 7/11 because they are all over now and I pretty much have their locations memorized.

BTW, there are 2 new OnCues formally in the works and I'll post the exact locations in a bit. There are several others that where they are still trying to finalize the real estate deals.

Is the one at the SE corner of the Kilpatrick Turnpike and 39th in real estate hell? There's been a sign there for quite some time saying "coming soon" with absolutely zero signs of activity. I'll admit it's been a month or so since I've been that way, maybe they finally started work since.

OnCue is making it easy to avoid 7/11 because they are all over now and I pretty much have their locations memorized.

BTW, there are 2 new OnCues formally in the works and I'll post the exact locations in a bit. There are several others that where they are still trying to finalize the real estate deals.

I'm really hoping for somewhere on western Memorial.

So if local 7/11 is out, and national (or someone else) takes over, does that open the market up for QuikTrip? Have always heard they stayed out of OKC as respect for local 7/11 (some relationship between ownership). Or do you think it's too late for them now that OnCue has come in, essentially with their model, and is starting to dominate?

I'm really hoping for somewhere on western Memorial.

Sorry, don't mean to derail the thread, but read a Gazette article last night about the 2 new Poke restaurants going in on 23rd, and realized that pretty soon, you're going to be asked if you're associated with them - Okie Poke and Oki Poke. :)

QT would have a tough time coming to the metro now. While there is a considerable difference between 7-11 and On Cue, I do not think there would be as a compelling reason to choose QT over an On Cue.

So if local 7/11 is out, and national (or someone else) takes over, does that open the market up for QuikTrip? Have always heard they stayed out of OKC as respect for local 7/11 (some relationship between ownership). Or do you think it's too late for them now that OnCue has come in, essentially with their model, and is starting to dominate?

Hmmm....as with anything, it's always for sale, if the price is right.

If QuikTrip wanted, they could probably buy-out OnCue's OKC stores. I would think most of the stores could easily convert to QuickTrip's Gen 2 and Gen 3 store models.

However, since QuikTrip's attention to detail about how the stores interior and exterior look and are laid out, they could could come in and compete with OnCue as well. In the other markets QT is in, they go head to head with other C-Store chains that attempt to offer similar experiences. Kum & Go in Tulsa, and RaceTrac in DFW come to mind.

With QT stores in Tulsa, Dallas, and Wichita, the move into the OKC market with a supply chain would seem to be easy. With the amount of research and traffic counts QuikTrip does before every store build, I would not be surprised if they have already scouted out OKC locations, if the opportunity came available. They appear to be an insanely smart company when it comes to how to make a store profitable.


*The story I have heard about the QuikTrip and the local OKC 7 Eleven chain "agreement" is that QuikTrip's founder, Chester Cadieux, received a lot of business advice from OKC 7 Eleven's Bill Brown when he was starting the QT store in concept in Tulsa. Therefore, the agreement was that Cadieux wouldn't compete in OKC.

Chester Cadieux and Bill Brown both passed away in 2016. Chester's son, Chet continues to oversee QT, much like Jim Brown oversee's OKC 7 Eleven.

QT would also be competing with a "new" 7-11 that has deep pockets and local name recognition. I can't imagine the new 7-11 would put there name on anything less than stores with the same quality as the latest offerings.

If something does change with the 7-11 ownership, it can only be a good thing IMO.

I always buy my gas at 7-11, but I also have their card where I save 5 cents a gallon as well, and I think in July it goes to 11 cents a gallon. I hope that doesn't change. It is usually .63 a tank and I fill up every 4-5 days.

The main reason I don’t go there is because of the crap gas they sell. 7-11 is notorious for buying cheap and I can tell a difference. OnCue on the other hand is a reseller is Phillips66 which is a Top Tier gas. Very much worth the small savings in my opinion.

The main reason I don’t go there is because of the crap gas they sell. 7-11 is notorious for buying cheap and I can tell a difference. OnCue on the other hand is a reseller is Phillips66 which is a Top Tier gas. Very much worth the small savings in my opinion.

https://www.oncueexpress.com/faq

https://www.toptiergas.com/why/


The OnCue we use is usually 2 cents higher than the neighboring 7 Eleven for regular. The Top Tier gas has made a difference in our vehicles for MPG...just my two cents.

https://www.oncueexpress.com/faq

https://www.toptiergas.com/why/


The OnCue we use is usually 2 cents higher than the neighboring 7 Eleven for regular. The Top Tier gas has made a difference in our vehicles for MPG...just my two cents.

Exactly. Glad I’m not the only one who sees this. Like Pete I go out of my way to go to OnCue and my main reason is Top Tier gas. I’m willing to pay more than 2 cents a gallon difference but when it’s that cheap comparatively it makes zero sense to buy from 7-11. Plus I still support a local company. It’s a win-win. I’m an OnCue customer for life as long as they keep doing what they are doing.

Don’t know about the total amount, but at least half the times I’m in one of the stores they are dropping bills in the safe and getting change out.

I worked for 7/11 for a month, just wasn't for me. It's company policy to keep only $39 in the drawer, all the rest gets dropped into the safe. The reason so much change gets pulled out is because so many people pay with $20 bills, which get dropped into the safe pretty quick.

I’d be more likely to go to OnCue if they had E10 premium gas. Also, 7-11 has the best premium unleaded price even when regular unleaded is the same between gas stations.

I picked up a can of coke at a 7-11 in Norman yesterday on my way home. I asked the clerk what the scoop was on the future of the company. She indicated that the word among some of the clerks is that the daughter of the founder would be taking over operations from the son.

I picked up a can of coke at a 7-11 in Norman yesterday on my way home. I asked the clerk what the scoop was on the future of the company. She indicated that the word among some of the clerks is that the daughter of the founder would be taking over operations from the son.

This is great news....if you're OnCue. :D

I’d be more likely to go to OnCue if they had E10 premium gas.

Are there any that don't? My car doesn't require premium, nor would premium do a thing for it, so I really haven't paid attention to their offerings in that field, but to my knowledge every one offers 100% gas, gas with ethanol, and some offer E85.

I’d be more likely to go to OnCue if they had E10 premium gas. Also, 7-11 has the best premium unleaded price even when regular unleaded is the same between gas stations.

Why would you want E10? I run 100% gas and the nice thing about Oklahoma, especially compared to other states, is there is enough of a demand for it you can still buy it at most fuel stations. A good friend of mine lives in Orlando, FL and can occasionally find it, but it's not near as available as it is here. I even have a newer truck, and I still choose quality 100% gas from OnCue. After running a couple of tanks of 7-11's cheapo E10 through my truck, I can definitely hear pinging under acceleration. My mom has a Jeep Wrangler and was having this issue, and she always stopped at the 7-11 in Mustang. I told her drive a few miles down the road, run a couple of tanks of OnCue's gas through it and tell me if the pinging goes away and acceleration has improved. After one full tank she was noticing a difference, and has never looked back. Again this is just my personal experience, but you get what you pay for.

I used to go to HOMELAND to take advantage of the savings from the shopper card for my gas. Additionally I wanted 100% gas. I did change my habits of seeking out 100% gas and prioritized top tier fuel. I now purchase E 10 but the top tier gas has resulted in a smoother running engine, based on the tach.

The OnCues I’ve been to have E10 regular unleaded and then 100% gas in regular, plus, and premium. This is the same at 7-11s that offer both kinds as well. However the 7-11 I most often frequent does not have 100% gas.

My car requires premium and I have never deviated from that. I have not noticed a performance difference between the E10 and 100% has except for mileage. But the mileage difference doesn’t justify the price difference between the two. This especially true because 7-11 maintains a lower price differential between grades of gas than most other station, so the premium is relatively cheaper. .

7-Eleven at NW 63rd and Portland is closed, really strange, it's been there forever. The store is completely empty except for a little bit of shelving.
All the signage is gone as well.

7-Eleven at NW 63rd and Portland is closed, really strange, it's been there forever. The store is completely empty except for a little bit of shelving.
All the signage is gone as well.

We talked about this in another thread...

That site is not owned by 7-11 and there is no way to expand it due to the surrounding neighbors.

I suspect they just decided not to renew their lease. It was a service station before the 7-11 was built sometime in the late 70's or early 80's.

Here's the story of what happened to the 7/11 at 63rd/Portland. I stopped by on Friday just to peek inside. I then walked to the liquor store on the other end of the building to see if any of the other tenants knew anything. I talked to the woman who runs the liquor store, what follows is what she told me: OnCue ran them out of business. When OnCue first opened, the 7/11 was doing about $25K per day in business, but that figure began dropping. When they closed, their daily run was only about $3K per day. 7/11 owns the entire building, the radio store and liquor store lease their spots from 7/11. She got this info from 7/11 employees she became friends with. Her lease runs out June 30 and she is out of there. The awning has been painted brown (it was red) so it doesn't even look like a 7/11 store anymore.

On a side note....this issue is in two different threads on Facebook. Others have commented that the employees were not very friendly, the small size of the property made it difficult to get in/out, and the overall cleanliness of the store and especially the restrooms was not the best. Personally, I never went in there, just wasn't convenient for me.