So let me get this straight:
* Energy fans talk all sorts of crap the minute Rayo announces its team.
* When people who like Rayo - or are just sick of Energy - start commenting, energy hipsters get their beards in a twist and want to take the high road.
* Or just wimp out and start a new thread. And cry to their mamas.

Listen Energy, it's time to put your big boy pants on. Maybe your mommies and daddies can take time out from getting you jobs to buy you some.

No one on your team would be good enough to play for Rayo at this point and no one at Rayo would ever take the pay cut or the drop down in quality of play to be in the USL. Those are just facts. The next former Dallas FC player in town will again not play for the energy but rayo.

We ain't taking it to a new thread.

I don't have a horse in this race, but I've read both threads, and all I know is the behavior here is turning me off the Rayo. I don't like the "enjoy your one season" comments either, but the negativity against the Energy just seems nasty.

I don't have a horse in this race, but I've read both threads, and all I know is the behavior here is turning me off the Rayo. I don't like the "enjoy your one season" comments either, but the negativity against the Energy just seems nasty.
I hear what you're saying. This is why I have tried REEEAAAALLLLYY hard to take the high road.
But I, and my friend who are starting a supporter's group for Rayo, and the guys who started the Scissortail Podcast, get this crap thrown at us constantly. I recently even had a guy start a personal flame war with me on Facebook over my support for Rayo OKC. I stayed on the High Road. I honestly did. I talked about how I'm going to support Rayo, rain or shine, cold or heat. His response? "You support S#!T!"
I had no idea who this person was? When I looked at his profile, he lives in Kansas City!???!
And all of the asinine, childish posts to Twitter and FB.
One of the owners of Rayo has even been threatened!
Unfortunately, I have to agree with Treydogg. All of that happens, but he posts negatively and now it's Rayo OKC that's bad?
And nobody here has even responded to Bellaboo, and what happened to his son? BTW, I verified that this happened with other people as well. When this was related to Coach Marcina, he said that is something they will NEVER do. Here's a quote;
"We will never fleece people out of their money playing on the hopes and dreams. That is sick"
Sorry for this diversion down a dark alley. Now back onto the High Road

No one on your team would be good enough to play for Rayo at this point and no one at Rayo would ever take the pay cut or the drop down in quality of play to be in the USL. Those are just facts. The next former Dallas FC player in town will again not play for the energy but rayo

Better in what way? Because it is the NASL? Yeah, that worked out last year in the open cup.

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I can't speak for what happens on facebook or twitter, only what I see here. And I get enough stupid fan behavior from college FB. If this is soccer culture, count me out. Smack talk is well and good, but this is really gooner stuff.

Better in what way? Because it is the NASL? Yeah, that worked out last year in the open cup.
It worked pretty well the year before,though.
In the 3rd Round of the US Open Cup in 2014 only ONE USL Pro team beat a NASL team, while 6, out of 8, NASL team won their 3rd Round games.
In the 4th Round all 6 remaining NASL teams were pitted against MLS teams. They won 3 of those match ups. Only 1, of out 7, USL Pro team made it out of the 4th round.
In the 5th Round, the sole remaining USL Pro team lost, while 2 of the NASL teams made it to the Quarter Finals.Meaning that, out of the 8 teams in the Quarter Finals of the 2014 US Open Cup, there were 6 MLS teams, and 2 NASL teams.

2015 - 0-7. Enough said. I wouldn't doubt that the same thing would happen again in 2016.

2015 - 0-7. Enough said. I wouldn't doubt that the same thing would happen again in 2016.

I don't know about the U.S. Open Cup, but I am sure that destroying the minor league USL is now a priority for NASL, especially in the OKC market. Feel free to identify anyone on the Eneergy roster who has the experience of any of the front line players signed by Rayo. I'll be waiting.
And if the mama's boys in the Grid want a friendly wager on this year's open matchup (assuming they can win their way to even be able to play Rayo), I'm sure Red Army fans would be more than happy to take it.
You've been duped the last couple of years kwhey, and I kind of feel bad for you.

Oklahoma City market is very fortunate to have the USL & NASL in our market.

Talk to the soccer fans in Tulsa; they would love to revive the Roughnecks' brand in the NASL --relocated from NASL Hawaii. Tulsa supports the USL Roughnecks and the NPSL Athletics; together they average 8,200 fans. They are disappointed & troubled that the NASL chose to put a team in OKC over Tulsa.

Future MSL expansion/relocation for cities with 2 million or more:

Tulsa could support MLS easily; however, an ownership group would have trouble investing in the MLS' current model where the league reaps a good amount of profits on individual team branding, merchandising & TV revenue. OKC won't be getting an MLS franchise regardless of what is being promoted by Energy FC. We had an opportunity to land an expansion franchise in the early 2000s--that ship has sailed... Salt Lake City (robust economy & high per capita income) is the only city with less that 2 million to obtain an initial franchise. Rochester, a great soccer market has been passed up despite its proximity to Buffalo (66 mi) & Syracuse (75 mi), NY; those cities are not within the 40-mile MLS travel radius .

USL has some great individual talent on the independent (non affiliated) clubs; however, the USL continues to trend toward development for the MLS or an MLS2 league as many MLS teams have their development clubs playing in the same city--in some cases the same venue. An example of this trend, the NBA in OKC where the Thunder & NBADL Oklahoma Blue; they can walk across the street and observe their players' develop. Other major leagues are testing this model like MLB.

Oklahoma City Energy fans, the future potential will be difficult to compete with the MLS cities that field their own development teams in the USL.

We received a taste of what's in store from that last season with tough competition from Los Angeles Galaxy II, Seattle Sounders 2, Toronto FC II, Portland Timbers 2, Real Monarchs SLC & Vancouver Whitecaps FC 2; with the addition of Sporting KC's 2016 Swope Park Rangers KC, USL continues it's trend. Look for FC Dallas to join those ranks .

MLS clubs will eventually have all of their development club in one league (USL) with a group of non affiliated clubs/cities to provide competition where they can also poach players.

NASL could land a future TV contract of some kind which would be great for the league's future. Just wish the OKC owners could join forces--that will not happen.

I plan to support both OKC's NASL & USL clubs this season; regardless of their records--although I haven't committed to become a season ticket holder for either.

Let's play soccer!

Rayo isn't selling its fans on the idea of the MLS coming in the future. That's all Energy has done. And now it sounds like they'll be stuck playing in a league full of developmental sides. Good luck.

USL has some great individual talent on the independent (non affiliated) clubs; however, the USL continues to trend toward development for the MLS or an MLS2 league as many MLS teams have their development clubs playing in the same city--in some cases the same venue.

This is my biggest complaint about the USL. I mean 8 USL teams can't even compete in the US Open Cup because of it. It makes the USL feel less legitimate, imo.

This thread isn't worth looking at anymore.

This thread isn't worth looking at anymore.

It really isn't, I couldn't care less about Rayo and I'm kinda sick of Energy fans talking about em. Let them do their thing in Yukon, if we meet em in the open cup that's fine but I'm not going to waste my breath on a club that I have absolutely no interest in. We should just get back to talking soccer and let the play on the field determine who the better team is.

We should be talking about how happy we are to have Gaz and MT back. I'm feeling really good about going further in the playoffs this year.

I'd honestly rather watch kids up and coming maybe a year away from MLS over has been talent that sure, perhaps played for a NT or a better league abroad in the past, but is on the hind side of their career.

That being said, as an Energy fan and season ticket holder, I'll still check out a Rayo game or two, why not?

BTW, there is a 2016 Energy thread that was started.

I'd honestly rather watch kids up and coming maybe a year away from MLS....
The you DEFINITELY need to follow Rayo OKC. I met one of the rookies last night, Hugo Rhoads. Came from Portland State. Looks like he has a chance to be one of the best young defenders in the league.
We also signed another rookie defender out of UAB, Ian Svantesson. He's 6' 6"!
Also, Jacksonville Armada just signed the USL MVP, Matt Fondy. You'll get to see him when they come here.

This happened with the okcfc pdl team as well. The team was already made up before the tryouts. Saw messages from the coaching staff to some of the guys. Theres lots of misunderstandings, but I do occasionally see older players that think they're best at indoor try and prove something at tryouts, just the way it is. Cant jump straight to usl. Lots of players have to go through the process(college, pdl/npsl). that's why you should always go to multiple tryouts. but yeah sometimes it is just about the money.