I believe this place is being run by the same guy that did run or still runs Groovy's. While Groovy's is by no means my favorite place, it is always packed when I have been or driven by.

Back to the mall, what was the original tenant where Shoe Carnival now resides?

That's a 30,000 square foot space and I know it had been a small department store in years gone by (not Steinmart I don't think but something like that)... Does anyone remember that store and if was original when the mall opened in the 70's?

Back to the mall, what was the original tenant where Shoe Carnival now resides?

That's a 30,000 square foot space and I know it had been a small department store in years gone by (not Steinmart I don't think but something like that)... Does anyone remember that store and if was original when the mall opened in the 70's?

Shoe Gallery? I believe it was the M.M. Cohn space...

Streets operated in the space where BC Clark is (and Shoe Gallery used to occupy).

Yes, sorry, Shoe Gallery.

And I remember M.M. Cohn. Do you think this was the only previous tenant in that space?

(And with some googling: prior to that, Clarke's)

Clarke's was that big? Wow, wouldn't have thought that.

Thanks very much for the info.

Clarke's was that big? Wow, wouldn't have thought that.

Thanks very much for the info.

You bet!

http://newsok.com/article/1967106

My aunt lived right by Northpark, so I remember spending a lot of time there in its heyday, but I only remember the MM Cohn days (born in '81, so at some point after the acquisition, it was rebranded by MM Cohn).

This is a sign outside Northpark promoting future interior renovations.

https://i.imgur.com/5arb75e.jpg

This is a sign outside Northpark promoting future interior renovations.

https://i.imgur.com/5arb75e.jpg

I really miss seeing the images... I haven't looked at OKCtalk on my phone yet, mainly because I prefer the form factor of having a larger computer screen. I might try and borrow my wife's Surface book to view OKCtalk!

I really miss seeing the images... I haven't looked at OKCtalk on my phone yet, mainly because I prefer the form factor of having a larger computer screen. I might try and borrow my wife's Surface book to view OKCtalk!

You aren't missing much in this case. The renderings look like they're turning the mall into an office building.

Not sure what to think about this. Northpark is pushing 50 and so much of the public space is original that I would think a light "sprucing up" and selling the retro factor would make better financial sense. But as I look at that tile flooring, I am reminded that it is still a slimy foundation when we walk into any ancient fast food joint. Places originally built as a Grandy's, Long John Silver, etc.

At which point I hear John Huston in the movie Chinatown saying "Of course I'm respectable. I'm old. Publications, ugly buildings and whores all become respectable if they last long enough."

The Liszt, the nightclub that opened a couple of years ago in the mall, has permanently closed.

So has Rococo and the AMC Theater (a while ago), so this place has become pretty empty.

However, I believe The Hamilton is doing well as is Hacienda Tacos.

much of the public space is original that I would think a light "sprucing up"

Needs way more than "light". It has been due for a complete remodel for about 20 years.

The Liszt, the nightclub that opened a couple of years ago in the mall, has permanently closed.

So has Rococo and the AMC Theater (a while ago), so this place has become pretty empty.

However, I believe The Hamilton is doing well as is Hacienda Tacos.

I think The Hamilton is adding a separate bar/lounge next door too...

The Liszt, the nightclub that opened a couple of years ago in the mall, has permanently closed.

So has Rococo and the AMC Theater (a while ago), so this place has become pretty empty.

However, I believe The Hamilton is doing well as is Hacienda Tacos.

Rococo closing really hurt us. That was our favorite date night destination.

Rococo closing really hurt us. That was our favorite date night destination.

They've reopened on Western where The Barrel used to be, maybe a month ago?

They've reopened on Western where The Barrel used to be, maybe a month ago?

It's been several months now.

And when they opened on Western, they closed both the Northpark and N. Penn locations.

They've reopened on Western where The Barrel used to be, maybe a month ago?

Yeah, it's just not as perfectly convenient for us as Northpark! We don't get out much.

I remember sometime back in the late '80s or early '90s hearing from several people about North Park Mall being cut in half. Basically cut in the middle and the South side scrapped and a strip mall being built. The way the Mayfair area is being renovated you would think North Park Mall would get a face lift. Is North Park being slowly forgotten because the area around it is in slow decline? I hate it being just a "walkers mall " with a B C Clark store. What's the real deal with the present and future of North Park?

I remember sometime back in the late '80s or early '90s hearing from several people about North Park Mall being cut in half. Basically cut in the middle and the South side scrapped and a strip mall being built. The way the Mayfair area is being renovated you would think North Park Mall would get a face lift. Is North Park being slowly forgotten because the area around it is in slow decline? I hate it being just a "walkers mall " with a B C Clark store. What's the real deal with the present and future of North Park?"The area around it is in slow decline." Says who?

I remember sometime back in the late '80s or early '90s hearing from several people about North Park Mall being cut in half. Basically cut in the middle and the South side scrapped and a strip mall being built. The way the Mayfair area is being renovated you would think North Park Mall would get a face lift. Is North Park being slowly forgotten because the area around it is in slow decline? I hate it being just a "walkers mall " with a B C Clark store. What's the real deal with the present and future of North Park?
Was never going to be cut up.
Might want to tell the people in Quail Creek and along Memorial that they are in decline. It will be news to them. Maybe that explains why prices keep going up. Lol

Aging = slow decline? Not always.

Looking at their website I see some really nice shops, restaurants and other boutique businesses. I think Norwalk and BC Clark have been there for years.

We went to The Hamilton for cocktails last night and it was packed, both in front and in the speakeasy. I spoke with the owner of the mall a few weeks ago and they have a couple potential tenants lined up that will only increase foot traffic there. This property does just fine, and I totally disagree that the area around it is in any type of decline, slow or otherwise.

The only time I ever went to Northpark was to go to the dollar theater they had there years ago.

We went to The Hamilton for cocktails last night and it was packed, both in front and in the speakeasy. I spoke with the owner of the mall a few weeks ago and they have a couple potential tenants lined up that will only increase foot traffic there. This property does just fine, and I totally disagree that the area around it is in any type of decline, slow or otherwise.

I agree. Plus, this particular mall has a really great maintenance consistency. It would only take a couple of anchor tenants to make this mall a sweet destination .

My parents live in Quail Creek and that neighborhood is absolutely not in decline. It's thriving. (although I think it could do with some better landscaping and unified fencing along May and 122nd). I think the Camelot neighborhood is also holding its own although it's been a little while since I've been in there.

However, the old Homeland shopping center on the NE corner is a major embarrassment and needs to be completely bulldozed and replaced with something entirely different. The apartments behind it have also seen better days. I'm encouraged with the new growth to the north of there with new houses but that whole east side of May for about a half-mile north of 122nd has always seemed really weird and disjointed to me.

As for the mall itself, when I was young it was the "preppy" mall and was full of higher-end stores. It would be nice for it to come back to life. I wish they had not put the Walgreens on the corner. That really, really cheapens it in my opinion.

Any update on when Tiny Bubbles or Bush League Sports Tavern will be opening?

Any update on when Tiny Bubbles or Bush League Sports Tavern will be opening?

Haven't even seen building permits yet.

I suspect it will be a while.

Haven't even seen building permits yet.

I suspect it will be a while.
There's been work going on inside Tiny Bubbles since late summer. Work trucks blocking the drive. They even closed the drive right in front of the frontage for a month or so. It was a PIA! And a "Now Hiring / Open Soon" banner has been out for a couple of months. Working without permits maybe?

There's been work going on inside Tiny Bubbles since late summer. Work trucks blocking the drive. They even closed the drive right in front of the frontage for a month or so. It was a PIA! And a "Now Hiring / Open Soon" banner has been out for a couple of months. Working without permits maybe?

Thanks for the info.; I did find the permit for Tiny Bubbles but the sports pub (to be located in the old Rococo space) has definitely not filed as of yet.

HTTP://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/tinybubbles012024a.jpg


HTTP://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/tinybubbles012024b.jpg

Sign permit:

http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/tinybubbles022124a.jpg

S.J. Haggard to open at the end of April in The Shoppes at North Park
(Not North Park Mall)

^^^^^^^^
Is Steve moving from NHP or is this going to be a second location? He’s been at NHP for a LOOOOOONG time. Maybe 30+ years.

The post says we welcome back S.J. Haggard. And photos of him and apparel.

I suppose he was at Northpark before NHP? I don’t recall, if so. I just know he landed at NHP in the early nineties.

Per their instagram, they are moving to Shoppes at Northpark.

The only time I ever went to Northpark was to go to the dollar theater they had there years ago.

That was the most out of place dollar theater ever... no one that went to that theater could afford anything else in that entire mall.

That was the most out of place dollar theater ever... no one that went to that theater could afford anything else in that entire mall.

Back in the 80s it was considered a decent theater. Long before the mega theaters we now have. I remember standing in line all day to see The Empire Strikes Back there!

I remember taking a HS date to a movie there and locking my keys in the car. Smooth move ..... :)

I remember taking a HS date to a movie there and locking my keys in the car. Smooth move ..... :)

I've done that a long time ago while being a tourist in Cripple Creek before its casino days. I went to an old store to tell of the bad fix I was in, and the clerk there told me to just go look in the grass for an old coat hanger with a hook shaped on the end of it and use that. I've heard of doing that before and sure enough soon found the coat hanger and my problem was over with. You can't do that trick these days.

Back in the 80s it was considered a decent theater. Long before the mega theaters we now have. I remember standing in line all day to see The Empire Strikes Back there!

Same here!

Same here!

Me too, and it (and Return, which I also saw there) was probably on their *big* screen, I think it held almost 1000 people.

Same here!
Me too!

When I was in high school in the late 70s, Northpark was the top date-night movie spot.

I remember seeing Saturday Night Fever there with a really shy girl who was embarrassed by the surprisingly racy nature of that film. Also saw the very first Star Wars and many others there.

Along with Shepherd Mall and French Market, at least you could queue up inside for those summer blockbusters.

Northpark Cinema 4. Screen 3 was the big one. It had 2 aisles and a large center section.

Northpark Cinema 4. Screen 3 was the big one. It had 2 aisles and a large center section.

Yep, that was it. Also took a school trip there to see Reds on the big screen. That screen, the Quail Twin screens, Westwood, and Continental were huge...

Even in my early years of marriage just 10 years ago, it was a common date night place, as a dollar movie. Cheap date. I'm not sure why they couldn't make it profitable. I will admit the theater was in sad shape towards the end. Not sure why it couldn't have been updated and re-opened.

Dollar theaters just didn't seem to work. I wired the one on 240 and Shields and the one at 63rd and NW Expressway. They were both built as dollar theaters. Neither lasted long.

240 Shields wasn't built as one, but they basically were forced into it when the 8 screen Crossroads place opened. And ironically, that 8 screen did the same thing when the 16 screen Regal opened up next door. The 8 screen held its own for a bit, but it wasn't super long before it went down the toilet.

I actually remember going to the 240/Shields one a few times with my grandma. But we usually ended up at the Almonte (she lived at 89th/Penn) a lot because they had better movies. It was only a few screens like 240/Shields, but it was better kept. I dont think it lasted long at all after the Regal opened and I believe it's still vacant today.

Only thing I remember at Northpark is that the film was always so scratched up that the experience itself was pretty bad. I dont remember (and it was 30+ years ago at this point) the same being true of the ones on the south side. I dont think they ran the movies quite as long as NorthPark (and NP certainly didn't have any trouble filling the place, even with crappy film). If the newer stadium places didn't do these in, the digital conversion certainly did. They would never get an ROI on that expense. I'm surprised as many of the smaller ones made the switch as did.

240 Shields wasn't built as one, but they basically were forced into it when the 8 screen Crossroads place opened. And ironically, that 8 screen did the same thing when the 16 screen Regal opened up next door. The 8 screen held its own for a bit, but it wasn't super long before it went down the toilet.

I actually remember going to the 240/Shields one a few times with my grandma. But we usually ended up at the Almonte (she lived at 89th/Penn) a lot because they had better movies. It was only a few screens like 240/Shields, but it was better kept. I dont think it lasted long at all after the Regal opened and I believe it's still vacant today.

Only thing I remember at Northpark is that the film was always so scratched up that the experience itself was pretty bad. I dont remember (and it was 30+ years ago at this point) the same being true of the ones on the south side. I dont think they ran the movies quite as long as NorthPark (and NP certainly didn't have any trouble filling the place, even with crappy film). If the newer stadium places didn't do these in, the digital conversion certainly did. They would never get an ROI on that expense. I'm surprised as many of the smaller ones made the switch as did.
The Super Saver Cinema that I was lead electrician on opened in 1987 and closed in 2000. It was a dollar theater from day one. The building was demolished sometime since then.
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The Super Saver Cinema that I was lead electrician on opened in 1987 and closed in 2000. It was a dollar theater from day one. The building was demolished sometime since then.
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The two super savers NW Expressway and Shields were pretty cool to me as a kid. Dollar theaters don't work because, if you wait two weeks it will be on video cassette/DVD anyways or nowadays a streaming platform.

^

The one at 63rd & NW Ex was actually pretty nice and I used to go a lot.

^
They were both pretty ritzy for dollar theaters. At least at first. When we were hanging wall sconces in the theaters themselves they had a guy following us making sure we didn't hurt the silk wall curtains. It was extremely annoying.

^

The one at 63rd & NW Ex was actually pretty nice and I used to go a lot.

It eventually became known as the super slaughter as there were several shootings there.

As plans progress for Bush League in the old Rococo space and Tiny Bubbles set to open, this is the most recent lease plan for the mall:

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As plans progress for Bush League in the old Rococo space and Tiny Bubbles set to open, this is the most recent lease plan for the mall:

HTTP://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/northpark051624a.jpg

I'm not sure about other businesses, but the City Bites in the upper left has been closed for a long time.

I'm not sure about other businesses, but the City Bites in the upper left has been closed for a long time.

I guess squatters must run it then because I have been getting food from there weekly for the last few months....

I guess squatters must run it then because I have been getting food from there weekly for the last few months....

It is still open on their Website (https://www.citybites.net/locations) and Google Maps!

I guess squatters must run it then because I have been getting food from there weekly for the last few months....

I'm sorry, it must have reopened then. I lived less than a mile from there a couple of years ago and it was definitely closed. Maybe it was just temporary due to Covid.