shawnw
05-22-2017, 12:02 PM
Same, give me 10 5 story projects over 1 50 story project any day. Don't get me wrong, I still want the 50 story, but if it takes a few batches of 10 5s before I get the 50, that's sounds great.
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shawnw 05-22-2017, 12:02 PM Same, give me 10 5 story projects over 1 50 story project any day. Don't get me wrong, I still want the 50 story, but if it takes a few batches of 10 5s before I get the 50, that's sounds great. chuck5815 05-22-2017, 01:31 PM From Tinker AFB this weekend. http://www.okctalk.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=13863&stc=1 the BOK looks wide AF! CloudDeckMedia 05-22-2017, 02:00 PM Here's a quick video clip I captured last week as the last windows were being installed. I have another assignment downtown this week and will try to get by for an update. https://vimeo.com/218512716 TU 'cane 05-22-2017, 02:25 PM The Omni will most likely be in the 200'-350' range. And I think we'll see the [insert whatever kind name you want] old OGE master block plans come back to life in some form in the next 5-10 years. Whether it's 4 medium sized towers as originally planned, or one larger mixed use tower. That's prime real estate and downtown is growing with no end currently in sight. So, we'll have one more tower soon with maybe another in the next 5-10 years. I'd bet a large chunk of change on that. shawnw 05-22-2017, 02:27 PM If there's one thing that Logan taught us, it's that there's bright lights and a big city in store for the future of OKC :-P KingOfTheNorth 05-22-2017, 04:11 PM Probably won't get talks of anything substantial in size until after the convention center is finished and we get serious with the Cox Convention block. hoya 05-22-2017, 04:50 PM I think there'll be a break for a few years while we finish the convention center, the convention center hotel, maybe the new "Times Square" (or whatever it's called now), the First National renovation, etc. There's a lot of new stuff being built and people will want to wait and see how the market absorbs it. But if the FNC and the 17 story building at 4th and EKG do well, you'll probably have 2 or 3 new residential towers get announced soon afterwards. The next round of office towers will probably require an oil boom. That's okay, another one will come around again. At some point, Harold Hamm will retire and someone else will take over Continental Resources. Hamm is well known for running his company with the minimum number of employees possible. He's unusually thrifty in that regard. Whoever takes over for him will probably hire a lot more people, thus requiring a bigger building. That's probably OKC's best shot to get anything 600'+ in the next 10 to 15 years. d-usa 05-23-2017, 11:55 PM Do we know what the lighting will look like yet? I took these as I was leaving the civic center tonight, and I'm excited to see how it will affect the night skyline from that view: http://i.imgur.com/H6Z2Q24h.jpg?1 http://i.imgur.com/OIkwLHuh.jpg Bellaboo 05-24-2017, 07:40 AM Do we know what the lighting will look like yet?I took these as I was leaving the civic center tonight, and I'm excited to see how it will affect the night skyline from that view: http://i.imgur.com/H6Z2Q24h.jpg?1 http://i.imgur.com/OIkwLHuh.jpg Check out page 1. traxx 05-24-2017, 09:47 AM I like that the crown appears as a different color and that the glass on the building looks a bit different than the Devon tower, but from a distance it still looks like Devon Jr. They're too similar looking and I don't like that. It's a small complaint though. HangryHippo 05-24-2017, 10:03 AM I just wish it was about 5-6 stories taller - think it would've been just right then. Laramie 05-24-2017, 10:29 AM I feel that I might be part of the minority, but if OKC manages to get one or two more high rises around this height or a little taller, that would be enough for me. I want more focus on quality low-mid rises throughout the metro and urban developments spread throughout. Either way this building looks sharp and I'm glad that we have it. Good point! The Stage Center parcel was sacrificed for OG&E. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4c/Columbus-ohio-aep-building.jpg/150px-Columbus-ohio-aep-building.jpg AEP (American Electric Power) Tower, 31 stories - 456 ft, Columbus, OH OG&E needs to focus on one large structure on the now infamous OG&E Springs site (formerly Stage Center). They should consider one main tower, something in the 30-35 story (450-480 ft) range--this would accommodate their current employees with some room for growth. UnFrSaKn 05-27-2017, 10:53 AM http://m.newsok.com/27-story-bok-park-plaza-topped-out-in-oklahoma-city/article/5550747 Pete 05-27-2017, 11:25 AM ^ Doing the math, some interesting numbers: 690,000 total square feet for lease in this project. 100,000 leased to BOK (top four floors and lobby) 250,000 leased to Devon 340,000 spec space Oklahoman article quotes local broker saying 500,000 total square feet is likely to be on the open market, including a portion of the 250,000 Devon plans to sublease. That means Devon would only be taking 90,000 SF instead of 250,000. Also, don't quite get the numbers for BOK. 100,000 space in this project 75,000 being vacated at BOK Plaza (Rainey Williams building; old Fidelity) 25,000 net new space But, previous reports said 111 employees are already in that 75,000 downtown space (to hit the market when BOK makes the move) and 124 more will be moved from May & Britton. So, number of employees will more than double for BOK downtown but they are only taking 33% more space. Bellaboo 05-27-2017, 07:20 PM ^ Doing the math, some interesting numbers: 690,000 total square feet for lease in this project. 100,000 leased to BOK (top four floors and lobby) 250,000 leased to Devon 340,000 spec space Oklahoman article quotes local broker saying 500,000 total square feet is likely to be on the open market, including a portion of the 250,000 Devon plans to sublease. That means Devon would only be taking 90,000 SF instead of 250,000. Also, don't quite get the numbers for BOK. 100,000 space in this project 75,000 being vacated at BOK Plaza (Rainey Williams building; old Fidelity) 25,000 net new space But, previous reports said 111 employees are already in that 75,000 downtown space (to hit the market when BOK makes the move) and 124 more will be moved from May & Britton. So, number of employees will more than double for BOK downtown but they are only taking 33% more space. More efficient use of space ? Pete 05-28-2017, 07:11 AM ^ Or, they will be eliminating some positions through consolidation. GoldFire 05-28-2017, 10:03 AM Looks like all of the glass is now in place on the crown. http://i.imgur.com/F3mMm2Z.jpg http://i.imgur.com/hqHoQun.jpg http://i.imgur.com/VKPgzZe.jpg TU 'cane 05-28-2017, 10:10 AM Those are excellent pictures. Thanks so much for posting. Glad to see the exterior finished. This tower looks great and that crown looks wonderful off-set and is just different enough from the rest of the building to make a noticeable difference relative to the rest of the tower. Pete 05-28-2017, 12:00 PM http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/bok052817a.jpg _Kyle 05-28-2017, 05:08 PM Looks like all of the glass is now in place on the crown. http://i.imgur.com/F3mMm2Z.jpg http://i.imgur.com/hqHoQun.jpg http://i.imgur.com/VKPgzZe.jpg http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/bok052817a.jpg Great Pictures Guys! emtefury 05-28-2017, 10:20 PM I am curious to see how the crane gets taken down. I looked on YouTube but didn't see any good videos for this kind of crane. jn1780 05-28-2017, 10:50 PM I am curious to see how the crane gets taken down. I looked on YouTube but didn't see any good videos for this kind of crane. The thing you see just above the last crane mount to the building is a jacking mechanism that allows the tower sections to slide out. Once it is low enough, a mobile crane will disassemble the boom, counter weights, cab, etc. y39152VWCPk KingOfTheNorth 05-29-2017, 11:12 AM I am curious to see how the crane gets taken down. I looked on YouTube but didn't see any good videos for this kind of crane. I wondered the same thing whenever the Devon tower was finishing up and jn1780 posted the perfect video for it as the crane is able to basically dissemble itself all the way down in a slow process by having a moving section that takes the place of the removed area and repeats all the way down. emtefury 05-29-2017, 08:31 PM Thanks for the video. Makes sense to me now. SOONER8693 05-30-2017, 08:50 AM I know this has been addressed ad nauseum, but I have to repeat what I've seen again. I am soooo looking forward to the completion of this building and it's lighted crown. Again, I had to pick the wife up at the Tulsa airport last night at 10:40. Leaving OKC a little before 9, I drove past downtown OKC. The Liberty tower/Cotter Ranch thing and the Kerr McGee/whatever it is now building were totally black. No outside lights, no inside lights, nothing. Only because the sun had just set and darkness was setting in could you make out their shapes. So, I get to Tulsa and as usual the downtown is lighted like it's Hong Kong or NYC. All major buildings well and impressively lighted. As well as many of the lesser buildings. Very impressive. Ok, get back to OKC about 12:30 and now the Devon tower is dark. The Cotter and Kerr buildings now had some light, but only small lights on top. Cotter had 4 small red lights for safety I assume and Kerr had 4 small white lights for same reason I assume. What a difference in the 2 cities. Again Pete 05-30-2017, 09:09 AM http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/bok052817b.jpg http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/bok052817c.jpg http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/bok052817f.jpg KingOfTheNorth 05-30-2017, 10:23 AM Great shots Pete. Definitely enjoying the finished product and it compliments nicely with the Devon Tower. Laramie 05-30-2017, 11:08 AM http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3008/2551440230_93fd570f7e_o.jpg http://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/tulsaworld.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/c/32/c3276edb-aff5-5de7-b1ec-e145400bccba/55f2c4b4be8f0.image.jpg Although it's BOK Park Plaza Tower (brand); consider it Devon's second tower, an early placeholder (top) in 2008. They are slowly braced & poised for expansion in addition to putting employees closer together. Oil & energy will rebound; so enjoy the inexpensive prices for now. Devon will be among the largest independent energy giants in the World. shadfar 05-30-2017, 12:28 PM Looks like all of the glass is now in place on the crown. http://i.imgur.com/F3mMm2Z.jpg http://i.imgur.com/hqHoQun.jpg http://i.imgur.com/VKPgzZe.jpg Amazing shots! Thank you! Building looks great. Nice addition to downtown. G.Walker 05-30-2017, 04:17 PM I wonder why OG&E just doesn't lease some space in this new tower? As it looks like their proposed tower isn't going to happen. Laramie 05-30-2017, 05:32 PM I wonder why OG&E just doesn't lease some space in this new tower? As it looks like their proposed tower isn't going to happen. They are cheap! ;) gopokes88 05-30-2017, 08:35 PM They are cheap! ;) Actually the opposite. I actually asked Sean Trauschke this exact question. His answer was there aren't a lot of huge companies in okc that can fill a building. Rather then help fill out a building they want to help jumpstart a larger development. The stage center towers were supposed to do this but with oil crashing and Clayco not really knowing the local landscape it fell through. Instead of moving into BOK, they are waiting for the economy to start growing at a decent clip again. Too long didn't read version- They only have one bullet in the gun, they are going to make it worthwhile. bchris02 05-30-2017, 08:43 PM Actually the opposite. I actually asked Sean Trauschke this exact question. His answer was there aren't a lot of huge companies in okc that can fill a building. Rather then help fill out a building they want to help jumpstart a larger development. The stage center towers were supposed to do this but with oil crashing and Clayco not really knowing the local landscape it fell through. Instead of moving into BOK, they are waiting for the economy to start growing at a decent clip again. Too long didn't read version- They only have one bullet in the gun, they are going to make it worthwhile. Hopefully they come back to their plans for the Stage Center site once oil prices recover and this time work with a developer who won't demand such a massive TIF (if I remember correctly, it was ultimately the TIF request that killed the Stage Center Tower deal). Pete 05-31-2017, 07:38 AM http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/bok053017.jpg gopokes88 05-31-2017, 11:13 AM Hopefully they come back to their plans for the Stage Center site once oil prices recover and this time work with a developer who won't demand such a massive TIF (if I remember correctly, it was ultimately the TIF request that killed the Stage Center Tower deal). That was clayco that demanded the TIF and I clearly said OGE didn't expect clayco to be so clueless with the local political landscape. OGE doesn't really get to drive the process but they sorta drive it. All they can do is tell a developer if you build a building X high we will operate X floors at X rate. That helps the economics of the building start to look better. Problem is when oil crashed they couldnt lease the other parts of the building and the luxury condo market was surely dead as well. So for now they're standing pat. dmoor82 06-01-2017, 04:24 PM 13875 dmoor82 06-01-2017, 04:25 PM 13876 dmoor82 06-01-2017, 04:26 PM This tower enhances the skyline more than I originally thought it would. shawnw 06-01-2017, 04:27 PM Western bridge? dmoor82 06-01-2017, 05:06 PM Yes! baralheia 06-02-2017, 04:59 PM According to the City of OKC's Streetcar Construction News (https://www.okc.gov/government/maps-3/projects/modern-streetcar-transit/modern-streetcar-construction-news) page, the construction crane will be coming down within the next week: 13891 EDIT: I don't know why but the upload tool keeps resizing the picture, and there doesn't appear to be a way to stop it from doing it. :/ Pete 06-04-2017, 09:42 AM These are from this morning. Crane is coming down; 2nd photo shows the removed blue sections on the ground. http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/bok060417a.jpg http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/bok060417b.jpg http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/bok060417c.jpg http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/bok060417d.jpg kevin lee 06-04-2017, 10:18 AM Is the BOK sign not erected by crane? Pete 06-04-2017, 03:51 PM The will likely use the building maintenance unit that is a small crane mounted to the roof that is used for window washing and other maintenance. By late afternoon on Sunday, the crane is now almost halfway down. stratosphere 06-04-2017, 06:16 PM im really going to miss that crane :Smiley122 _Kyle 06-04-2017, 10:54 PM The red lights on top are on tonight, KingOfTheNorth 06-05-2017, 10:53 AM Anyone got a picture of the lights? Pete 06-05-2017, 10:53 AM Crane coming down quickly this morning: http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/bok060517.jpg shawnw 06-05-2017, 10:55 AM Anyone got a picture of the lights? It's just the collision lights, not anything to do with the lighting features... Pete 06-05-2017, 12:56 PM http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/bok060517b.jpg Bellaboo 06-06-2017, 11:04 AM I just got back from Seattle. This building looks very similar to the new Amazon HQ building. It's a little taller (38 floors) but they are stylistic twins. Edit -And the daughter in law works in the new Amazon building. Pete 06-06-2017, 11:06 AM Last night, I noticed another big crane in the middle of Hudson. Today, I see the crane's big horizontal section is now down. I bet the rest of it is pretty much gone by tomorrow. tyeomans 06-06-2017, 11:58 AM When are we going to start seeing the crown lights? Pete 06-06-2017, 12:37 PM When are we going to start seeing the crown lights? I bet soon. They'll want to start testing and programming. People should start moving in by the end of the year. UnFrSaKn 06-06-2017, 01:25 PM 13912 OKCRT 06-06-2017, 07:07 PM I just got back from Seattle. This building looks very similar to the new Amazon HQ building. It's a little taller (38 floors) but they are stylistic twins. Edit -And the daughter in law works in the new Amazon building. 38 stories would have been perfect for the Okc skyline. IMO that would have made a huge impact. Don't get me wrong I really like BOK but another 10 floors would have really made an imprint. UnFrSaKn 06-07-2017, 08:38 PM https://twitter.com/hdcopters/status/870673015079485440 HangryHippo 06-07-2017, 09:37 PM 38 stories would have been perfect for the Okc skyline. IMO that would have made a huge impact. Don't get me wrong I really like BOK but another 10 floors would have really made an imprint. Yep - 35-38 stories would have been just right. traxx 06-08-2017, 10:50 AM Sitting at the stop light on 4th at Lincoln and it really looks good. Fills in the skyline. jonny d 06-08-2017, 10:55 AM Yep - 35-38 stories would have been just right. Given the fact that OKC can barely fill the buildings they have, that would NOT be perfect! |