Simply transformative!

Lotsa buildin' going on in the area.

Wow! 21C bout to get some new neighbors!

This is the building directly east of the Jones.

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That made me curious, so I was able to find the current rendering for that on the construction management company's website (http://www.cmswillowbrook.com/signature-projects/):

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I just love the look of Fred Jones Ave with those lights overhead.

In this rendering there is an empty green space to the east of the apartment buildings but in reality there are a couple of neat buildings. I especially like the little stucco hut that's at the corner of Shartel and Sheridan (which is now being used as the construction office for the West Village). Anyone know the fate of these buildings once the apartments are complete?? Thanks

In this rendering there is an empty green space to the east of the apartment buildings but in reality there are a couple of neat buildings. I especially like the little stucco hut that's at the corner of Shartel and Sheridan (which is now being used as the construction office for the West Village). Anyone know the fate of these buildings once the apartments are complete?? Thanks

That is the Irwin office supply mini-complex and many have approached him with serious offers and he has refused all.

Also, the clutch supply place on the SE corner of Sheridan and Fred Jones is a great mid-century building that has been abandoned for several years now. I know people had approached that owner as well. I also noticed it has been reported several times for trash and broken windows.

That is the Irwin office supply mini-complex and many have approached him with serious offers and he has refused all.

Also, the clutch supply place on the SE corner of Sheridan and Fred Jones is a great mid-century building that has been abandoned for several years now. I know people had approached that owner as well. I also noticed it has been reported several times for trash and broken windows.

The clutch supply store is more likely to be sold than the Irwin Office Supply, from the inside knowledge I have. Unlike the Clutch Supply, Irwin is still operational during the weekdays. The clutch supply is the biggest eye-sore on the block now and if the city puts pressure on them, i think it can sell in the near future.

The only problem would be if the building is even worth saving at this point. The drop down ceiling has caved in the front section and likely have extensive water damage throughout. I would actually like to see this building torn down and redeveloped along with the field next to it, which is also owned by the same person.

I was thinking about this development and the Steelyard when out walking the other night. I really think this is going to bring the standard for new urban development in OKC to the next level. This is a very Dallas or Charlotte style development. Established urban entertainment districts like Lower Bricktown for example are going to have to up their game to compete.

+1

This development reminds me a lot of West 7th street in DT Ft. Worth. Now we just need a L.A. Fitness, In&Out, Urban Outiftters to fill retail space.

This development reminds me a lot of West 7th street in DT Ft. Worth. Now we just need a L.A. Fitness, In&Out, Urban Outiftters to fill retail space.

If we get an In & Out anywhere near downtown I might just have to move or risk an early death :)

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The clutch supply store is more likely to be sold than the Irwin Office Supply, from the inside knowledge I have. Unlike the Clutch Supply, Irwin is still operational during the weekdays. The clutch supply is the biggest eye-sore on the block now and if the city puts pressure on them, i think it can sell in the near future.

The only problem would be if the building is even worth saving at this point. The drop down ceiling has caved in the front section and likely have extensive water damage throughout. I would actually like to see this building torn down and redeveloped along with the field next to it, which is also owned by the same person.

A prescient prediction.

You can see the garage to the north of 21c is now taking shape.

Looks like the garage nearest the Jones may be open for business very soon.

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The surface lots in this photo make me so sad.

Indeed...but they are becoming fewer and fewer

at least the parking lots are not in the CBD. ... It is nice to have some expansion area, and like 5alive said - they are becoming fewer and fewer.

How many abandoned buildings are left in that area and along Classen/Western? That area could serve as another potential entertainment district for Downtown. Maybe no on the level of Bricktown, but all of those older buildings have potential. Not to mention the few surface lots remaining.

How many abandoned buildings are left in that area and along Classen/Western? That area could serve as another potential entertainment district for Downtown. Maybe no on the level of Bricktown, but all of those older buildings have potential. Not to mention the few surface lots remaining.

I feel like the Vanhook building, just south of the Sunshine Cleaners building and across from the Hall Capital expansion to the east is next, but due to the location and urban layout (right up to the street), parking will be an issue for anything of an significance. A Classen Blvd diet and the parking garages to the east could help there. Luckily, the Pivot guys believe in urbanism and won't try to throw up parking garages next to developments (as of now).

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In before the surface lots replies:D

But seriously, those are some great pics, Pete. What a transformation.

What is going in to the west of The Jones?

What is going in to the west of The Jones?

Between the parking garage and Jones will be more apartments.

That is craaaazzzyyy. That area has totally transformed.

In before the surface lots replies:D

But seriously, those are some great pics, Pete. What a transformation.

This is actually one of the first times I've seen the plethora of surface parking lots and was hopeful. With all the development going on in the immediate area, those lots represent a ton of potential. I saw them and immediately imagined what cool development will go in. I hope some for sale housing eventually comes to the area--I would love to live around here.

Those surface lots represent area for some really nice midrise (5-10) story developments. First couple of stories be retail/office space and the rest be apartments. I'd like some more high rises, but to have a high rise out there would stick out a bit too much.

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Every time I see photos of this project, I think there should be housing where there's parking and parking where there's housing. I'm not an urban planner, but the layout looks...off to me. What do others think?

I'm not an urban planner, but the layout looks...off to me. What do others think?

I agree.... You're not an urban planner. ;)

Every time I see photos of this project, I think there should be housing where there's parking and parking where there's housing.

I've always thought the same thing.

I've always thought the same thing.

Good to know I'm not alone.

I agree.... You're not an urban planner. ;)

lol. Yeah...

So the apartments going up right next to the hotel...are they going to block that great view of downtown from the higher floors in the hotel? A lot of their photos in advertising the hotel actually have that view in them. Wouldn’t they need to stop advertising that if there is no longer a view? Just a thought.

Is there going to be apartments butting up against the east side of the northern parking garage where that parking lot is?

Is there going to be apartments butting up against the east side of the northern parking garage where that parking lot is?

Yes, unless plans have changed since this site plan was produced.

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They are putting bricks up on the garage at Classen & Sheridan.

They don't look like the used brick from the demolished buildings, but hard to tell.

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There is no way those are the bricks from the demolished buildings, lol. I don't even recall those bricks being taken down, if I remember correctly they just bull dozed the entire thing.

There is no way those are the bricks from the demolished buildings, lol. I don't even recall those bricks being taken down, if I remember correctly they just bull dozed the entire thing.

No they did take the brick down. It is hard to tell. They might have had the bricks cleaned and then made more to match to have enough. Would be good question to ask developers.

If they did all that, then credit to them. Those bricks had to of been decades old, so to remake them in the same color they likely spent a ton of money. I live in gatewood and a neighbor of ours was looking to get more bricks to match their house and they were told that there was no way to make bricks to match them since they were so old. But money talks I'm sure and this group doesn't seem to do anything on the cheap.

Every time I see photos of this project, I think there should be housing where there's parking and parking where there's housing. I'm not an urban planner, but the layout looks...off to me. What do others think?

I actually am a huge fan of the layout of this as it will create a very intimate and quiet residential street on Fred Jones Ave. flanked by a popular spot on the SW (Jones Ass'y) and 21C Hotel on the NW. My only complaint is the Fred Jones cutoff on the north by a new building. I wish we would use these opportunities to restore the grid or preserve the opportunity to restore it in the future.

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Wow

It's amazing how this whole area will be transformed in such short time.

Awesome!

The parking garage on Sheridan is now open. You can see there is a protected walkway between it and Jones.

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Surely this isn’t the finished garage. It is pretty awful. And a little paint won’t help. At the gateway to the area it should be aesthetically pleasing and interactive at the street. There is no facade? Who at the city let this be approved? What’s going on?

Building two ugly garages with this development. Is this Garage District II, or just an extension of the first district?

The city doesn't want the police association to build their garage on Main Street but these two giant and plain garages for the west village, at prominent locations, are just fine? Not that I have a huge problem with them but just doesn't make much sense.

Looks like from earlier renderings there is supposed to be a facade and a large sign over the garages.

I think it's pretty clear this isn't the final exterior finish. Give it time for construction to complete.

Looks like they may just be saving money with these garages. Our local developers should want more for their city.

The Parking Garage District boundaries are co-terminus with the downtown boundaries.

Looks like they may just be saving money with these garages. Our local developers should want more for their city.

Lol, that’s a pretty unfair critique of Hall Capital with all they’re doing in that area. I don’t think that’s the finished product but even if it is, everything else they’ve done in that block has been awesome and transformative.

Lol, that’s a pretty unfair critique of Hall Capital with all they’re doing in that area. I don’t think that’s the finished product but even if it is, everything else they’ve done in that block has been awesome and transformative.

I agree. This is one of the higher quality developments currently happening in OKC. As you said, I don't think the garage is complete yet anyways. It will at least be painted.

I agree. This is one of the higher quality developments currently happening in OKC. As you said, I don't think the garage is complete yet anyways. It will at least be painted.

nice drone footage https://www.facebook.com/CmsWillowbrook/videos/1702069543177122/

So they are given a pass on a bad set of garages. But others get roasted. Is that because this is apartment development? Or do we allow bad design if we like the owner and think they are cool? These garages are at highly visible entry points and need to be of higher standard. Why are these okay?

We should at least pull in the old renderings to see whether this is what the garages are supposed to look like. If you see post 320 (page 13), it at least appears like there is supposed to be some materials advertising Film Row and the development covering the middle and sides of the garage. Is this still what's planned?

The garage being opened is not the same as the garage being finished. We should probably hold back our judgments until we see the finished project.

People need to (please) quit feeding the troll

First section will open in 9 months.

The garage being opened is not the same as the garage being finished. We should probably hold back our judgments until we see the finished project.

Agreed. This should be the standard for all projects, I guess.

My point is that we have selective judgement, not just enforcement in this city. If a garage serves a bar or an apartment building, it seems to be okay, no matter what it looks like or where it is. If it serves an office building, it is bad, no matter how much employment and income it brings to downtown. I just don't get it.