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PaddyShack
08-11-2022, 03:55 PM
As a resident of Yukon, I don't like that a lot of this new growth is in OKC limits, however they do go to Yukon schools and all of the added traffic. Something needs to be done along Garth Brooks and 10th, as those are by far the busiest corridors and traffic can be quite horrendous at 2pm on a week day. Part of me would like for Yukon and Mustang to somehow annex all of land away from OKC and the new border would be SW 15th or something, even though that might mean re-drawing school districts and causing all sorts of issues. I bet Yukon/Mustang could not expand utilities to account for this area, which is probably why Yukon and Mustang proper are not growing, but instead relying on this growth in OKC. It is just a tricky situation with many facets that affect life for both Yukon proper residents and these OKC hybrids moving in.

Pete
08-11-2022, 04:01 PM
^

A large percentage of property tax goes to the school district in which it is located, regardless of the city.

Sales tax goes to the city in which the property is located.

PaddyShack
08-11-2022, 05:03 PM
I understand where the taxes go, and that at least the schools are being funded with those properties sending students. My main concern is with traffic and what will be done to improve the area with these new apartment developments coming online. I just don't want another Penn & Memorial situation.

One would think that with all of this growth we should have at least a transit connection for residents to the downtown hub or something as a secondary option for commuters. If the current road work projects have shown all of us commuting from the west is we need to look to ways of moving more people in a more efficient manner than one person per car!!

dhpersonal
08-11-2022, 09:51 PM
One would think that with all of this growth we should have at least a transit connection for residents to the downtown hub or something as a secondary option for commuters.

Yukon's growth and increased traffic is following the suburban model perfectly (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQE_5MFCekg). It is showing some interest in the Regional Transportation Authority's plan to offer some alternative transit options (https://rtaok.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/RTA-MWCseeksoutYukonshowsinterest-Oklahoman-Article.pdf), but the suburban model demand that this never be suitable for primary use by the majority of residents. The American suburb is built for cars.

Snowman
08-12-2022, 03:09 AM
I understand where the taxes go, and that at least the schools are being funded with those properties sending students. My main concern is with traffic and what will be done to improve the area with these new apartment developments coming online. I just don't want another Penn & Memorial situation.

One would think that with all of this growth we should have at least a transit connection for residents to the downtown hub or something as a secondary option for commuters. If the current road work projects have shown all of us commuting from the west is we need to look to ways of moving more people in a more efficient manner than one person per car!!

There is like three block of Yukon that follows classic urban design, basically the rest of the city is implicitly designed around every household needing one or more vehicles, so it is rare anyone who does not own a car is going to select to live in the region. There is not much a new apartment development can do to buck a trend since WW2 in this area. Plus outside of finally starting to have sidewalks required, things build since 2000 still tend to be worse than even 1960s era developments that entirely expect car ownership for sustaining public transport.

Even even just from the design of the shopping center at Czech Hall it would be difficult to build the apartment complex so most residence would be willing to walk there and back.

Plus it is not like even tying into the downtown transit hub works for most people to use regularly. OKC's transport system has pretty long times between buses across they entire system once people get there, partially since it extends way past the areas that were built up in a manor that is symbiotic to public transport, so they can cover a wider area of the city.

Thatguy15
08-12-2022, 08:29 AM
I can't remember if it was Ch4 or Ch5 but one night this week they reported that Yukon had the 5th fastest growing zip code in the US. Feel free to fact check me lol.

It was the 3rd. Hard to believe

Paule4ou
08-12-2022, 09:55 AM
https://yukonprogressnews.com/2022/06/25/if-you-build-it-they-will-come/

Paule4ou
08-12-2022, 10:00 AM
Just to the west of this shopping center along 10th, a large new apartment complex is planned along with what looks like a retail strip center.

This would be between the proposed car dealership (https://www.okctalk.com/showthread.php?t=45847&page=2&p=1205039#post1205039) and Arby's:

http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/stack081122a.jpg

A ton of building permits pulled on this the last two days. Must be getting close.

PaddyShack
08-12-2022, 10:17 AM
I am seeing a lot of upset parents on Yukon PS social about how the schools at past capacity and what not. Our son is about a year out from starting school so it is becoming an issue we are starting to look at. I do wonder how many children come from these large apartment developments. At first thought I think of young singles or newly weds living in these places which lead me to believe not very many kids, especially school aged children will be all of a sudden going to Yukon schools. I would think the families would find detached homes once children get added to the mix. I welcome all of the new businesses going in here. I just hope Yukon and OKC work closer together to keep the traffic flowing.

roci28
08-12-2022, 04:36 PM
There is also supposed to be another large complex by Crest. Is that still happening?
Also when is the OU urgent care opening?

Snowman
08-12-2022, 04:48 PM
I am seeing a lot of upset parents on Yukon PS social about how the schools at past capacity and what not. Our son is about a year out from starting school so it is becoming an issue we are starting to look at. I do wonder how many children come from these large apartment developments. At first thought I think of young singles or newly weds living in these places which lead me to believe not very many kids, especially school aged children will be all of a sudden going to Yukon schools. I would think the families would find detached homes once children get added to the mix. I welcome all of the new businesses going in here. I just hope Yukon and OKC work closer together to keep the traffic flowing.

It is kind of surreal they have hit capacity again, I only graduated like 20 years ago, and it seems like they have around doubled the classroom capacity from then.

chssooner
08-12-2022, 05:45 PM
I am seeing a lot of upset parents on Yukon PS social about how the schools at past capacity and what not. Our son is about a year out from starting school so it is becoming an issue we are starting to look at. I do wonder how many children come from these large apartment developments. At first thought I think of young singles or newly weds living in these places which lead me to believe not very many kids, especially school aged children will be all of a sudden going to Yukon schools. I would think the families would find detached homes once children get added to the mix. I welcome all of the new businesses going in here. I just hope Yukon and OKC work closer together to keep the traffic flowing.

Meh. Those same parents will likely vote against a measure to fund new schools.

PaddyShack
08-15-2022, 02:50 PM
It is kind of surreal they have hit capacity again, I only graduated like 20 years ago, and it seems like they have around doubled the classroom capacity from then.

I graduated in 2010.

PaddyShack
08-15-2022, 02:53 PM
Meh. Those same parents will likely vote against a measure to fund new schools.

For as long as I have known Yukon has never had issues with voting to extend bond issues for schools.

Bellaboo
08-16-2022, 07:29 PM
I graduated in 2010.

I graduated in 1971.

ChrisHayes
09-02-2022, 05:38 PM
Just to the west of this shopping center along 10th, a large new apartment complex is planned along with what looks like a retail strip center.

This would be between the proposed car dealership (https://www.okctalk.com/showthread.php?t=45847&page=2&p=1205039#post1205039) and Arby's:

http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/stack081122a.jpg

I drove by there today, and they're staging construction equipment and it looks like they're circling much of the area with black excavating barrier. They might be getting ready to build both the car dealership and apartment complex at the same time.

Paule4ou
09-03-2022, 07:54 AM
I drove by there today, and they're staging construction equipment and it looks like they're circling much of the area with black excavating barrier. They might be getting ready to build both the car dealership and apartment complex at the same time.

It’s the car dealership that’s mobilizing. The development you references has not started at all yet….although permits have been filed.

Wishbone
12-02-2022, 04:02 PM
Wing Stop is going in the strip mall next to Slim Chickens. Yea another chicken place. :Smiley127

PaddyShack
12-05-2022, 01:01 PM
Wing Stop is going in the strip mall next to Slim Chickens. Yea another chicken place. :Smiley127

If only we could get a Nando's Peri Peri!! Haha

Pete
12-05-2022, 01:06 PM
Work has started on Pub W/Neighborhood Jam just north of Sooner Care.

Car dealership has started to the west (last photo).

http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/czech120422a.jpg


http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/czech120422b.jpg


http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/czech120422d.jpg


http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/czech120422e.jpg


http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/czech120422f.jpg


http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/czech120422c.jpg

ChrisHayes
12-05-2022, 04:07 PM
What's all the other ground work being done behind the main body of the Market? I'm referring to the middle of the top picture.

Pete
12-05-2022, 04:37 PM
What's all the other ground work being done behind the main body of the Market? I'm referring to the middle of the top picture.

Apartments.

Thatguy15
12-06-2022, 08:22 AM
I'm not sure how to feel for the guy that owns and lives on the property behind the hotel.

Pete
12-06-2022, 08:35 AM
It's amazing how much business Crest does.

You can see the number of cars in the photo and those shots were taken Sunday morning.

Jeepnokc
12-06-2022, 09:22 AM
I'm not sure how to feel for the guy that owns and lives on the property behind the hotel.

When he is ready to sell....they have greatly increased his land value though.

Roger S
12-06-2022, 09:51 AM
It's amazing how much business Crest does.

You can see the number of cars in the photo and those shots were taken Sunday morning.

And how Homeland stays open doing so little business in comparison.

You almost got my truck in that pic but it wasn't quite that busy yet when I was there early Sunday morning.

Thatguy15
12-06-2022, 10:17 AM
And how Homeland stays open doing so little business in comparison.

You almost got my truck in that pic but it wasn't quite that busy yet when I was there early Sunday morning.

I keep them in business. It's so much better to shop there than fight the crowd at Crest. It's worth however much more $ it is.

toggley
12-06-2022, 09:29 PM
Anyone know what will be going in that spot to the left in the plaza with Wingstop? Looks like it might be some type of restaurant with outdoor seating.

Pete
12-07-2022, 06:46 AM
Anyone know what will be going in that spot to the left in the plaza with Wingstop? Looks like it might be some type of restaurant with outdoor seating.

Looks like it's still available:

https://www.okctalk.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=17479&d=1653395835

roci28
12-07-2022, 02:38 PM
Do you know what the pending store is?

toggley
12-07-2022, 07:42 PM
I think that extra 1400 sqft is being added onto the “pending” unit. They put up a sign for this plaza and there’s only 4 spots. I’m guessing a decent-sized restaurant, probably a fast casual one like Chipotle or something like Five Guys or Firehouse Subs. I’ve seen locations about this size with outdoor seating for all three and none of them have a location out here.

Zuplar
12-08-2022, 09:26 AM
Five Guys or FIrehouse would be a nice get.

Thatguy15
12-08-2022, 09:31 AM
Five Guys or FIrehouse would be a nice get.

I'm hoping for Firehouse...they're legit

TheTravellers
12-08-2022, 09:34 AM
I'm hoping for Firehouse...they're legit

Used to be, IMO. They were great when they first entered the market here, but a few years after that, portions were smaller and not as tasty, so we stopped going a while back.

Zuplar
12-08-2022, 10:17 AM
I do feel like portions have gotten smaller, but I've still been satisfied the last few times I've gone to the one on 3rd street.

Pete
12-20-2022, 01:15 PM
Here is the lease plan for the next strip center.

Yonutz (recently opened at Memorial and Western) is taking the easternmost spot with the drive-thru and patio: https://www.yonutz.com/


HTTP://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/czech122022a.jpg

roci28
12-20-2022, 04:22 PM
Looking forward to trying this.
Also looks like a Cava opening on 10th, by Arbys.

Thatguy15
12-20-2022, 04:33 PM
Looking forward to trying this.
Also looks like a Cava opening on 10th, by Arbys.

Where at?

roci28
12-20-2022, 04:56 PM
On Yukon FB group says permit filed 12700 NW 10th. New development in front of new apartment complex.

Pete
12-20-2022, 05:04 PM
http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/cava122022a.jpg


http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/cava122022b.jpg


http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/cava122022c.jpg


http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/cava122022d.jpg

toggley
12-20-2022, 07:10 PM
Here is the lease plan for the next strip center.

Yonutz (recently opened at Memorial and Western) is taking the easternmost spot with the drive-thru and patio: https://www.yonutz.com/


HTTP://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/czech122022a.jpg

La Vida Nails applied for a permit on suite 102 between Wingstop and Yonutz

rkjg24
01-08-2023, 09:41 PM
Curious what's going up on the SW corner of Reno & Cemetery, to the north of the Valvoline. Looks like the frame is already up on it.

Pete
01-09-2023, 08:20 AM
Curious what's going up on the SW corner of Reno & Cemetery, to the north of the Valvoline. Looks like the frame is already up on it.

It's a small strip center.

Little Ceasar's is planning to build a free-standing location to the south:

https://www.loopnet.com/Listing/201-S-Cemetery-Rd-Yukon-OK/23544918/

toggley
02-10-2023, 06:43 PM
Commercial boom in Mustang/Yukon area (https://www.okctalk.com/content.php?r=892-Commercial-boom-in-Mustang-Yukon-area)

It looks like dirt work has started on the area where The Stacks, Cava, and the apartment complex is going to be on `0th St. Also, they've laid the foundation for the Pub W and Neighborhood Jam building.

toggley
02-10-2023, 06:48 PM
It's a small strip center.

Little Ceasar's is planning to build a free-standing location to the south:

https://www.loopnet.com/Listing/201-S-Cemetery-Rd-Yukon-OK/23544918/

The Little Caesar's is underway, they've got the frame put up. I don't see how they're going to fit that strip center next to the Little Caesar's while still having enough space for parking and traffic.

roci28
02-11-2023, 05:30 AM
That foundation for Pub W or Neighborhood Jam can’t be both restaurants I don’t think. It’s a good size but looks to small for 2. Does anyone know if they are building both together or one at a time?

Paule4ou
02-11-2023, 01:31 PM
That foundation for Pub W or Neighborhood Jam can’t be both restaurants I don’t think. It’s a good size but looks to small for 2. Does anyone know if they are building both together or one at a time?

It is both locations in one.

Pete
03-22-2023, 10:24 AM
There are actually three separate tenants for out-parcel that will include Neighborhood Jam and Pub W.

The third is for an undisclosed retail tenant that will face southeast; the two restaurants will face southwest.

http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/czech031223a.jpg


http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/czech031223b.jpg


http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/czech031223c.jpg


http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/czech031223d.jpg


http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/czech031223e.jpg

roci28
03-23-2023, 05:16 AM
Is the third spot already leased and just not announced yet or still waiting to lease the space?

Pete
03-23-2023, 07:23 AM
Is the third spot already leased and just not announced yet or still waiting to lease the space?

No idea.

Paule4ou
03-25-2023, 06:28 PM
Combined it will be just eh two announced establishments.

Pete
04-23-2023, 08:22 AM
In the last photo, I'm not sure Mod Pizza is still happening:

http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/czech042123b.jpg


http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/czech042123a.jpg


http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/czech042123c.jpg

doctorwho
04-23-2023, 03:00 PM
Too bad about Mod Pizza. Looks like Swig is busy with 16 cars in line.

roci28
04-23-2023, 03:24 PM
MOD still has a General manager for the Yukon location on their website. Hopefully it’ll pan out.

Wishbone
04-24-2023, 06:16 AM
Not sure they need a Mod there with Pie 5 not too far away.

Pete
04-27-2023, 08:09 AM
Whataburger has filed plans to build on a pad in this development:

http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/czech042123d.jpg


http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/czech042123e.jpg

toggley
04-27-2023, 11:38 PM
That's a great spot for them. A lot of traffic through there. I've been wondering when they'd open a location out here, the existing locations are a good 15 minutes away and most of their competitors have closer locations.

toggley
05-20-2023, 09:10 PM
https://locations.modpizza.com/usa/ok/yukon/821-n-czech-hall-rd

Mod's website is still showing this location as coming soon. I wonder what the hold up is.

Pete
06-06-2023, 04:11 PM
They have filed plans for the buildout of Pub W and Neighborhood Jam (last image):


http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/pubw060623a.jpg


http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/pubw060623b.jpg


http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/pubw060623c.jpg


http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/jam060623a.jpg

roci28
06-07-2023, 06:43 AM
Pub W and NJ are finally starting to go vertical. Things in Canadian county definitely move a little slower it seems.
Also a sign up at MOD…coming soon
Yonutz opened up, next to Longhorn, a few weeks ago.