Yet another Midtown project in the works, this time a mixed-use development on the southwest corner of 9th & Hudson.

The 1-acre property is under contract to Northline Development which has done some impressive work in SoSA and is also the developer of the Daebak K restaurant which will soon be starting construction in the Uptown/23rd District.

This project will feature a 3-story 15,000 square foot commercial building along Hudson, with retail on the ground floor, and office space above. Northline will be occupying the 3rd floor and will be leasing the remainder. They plan to target a quick service restaurant; think Chipotle or similar.

To the west of the commercial building, there will be 20 3-story townhomes for sale; each with a ground-level 2-car garage and two levels of living space with the possibility of roof-top decks. Each unit will be approximately 1,700 square feet and the complex will feature a landscaped common area.

This represents more great infill development in the Midtown/10th Street corridor which continues to boom. Directly to the east is the new location for Jerky.com and Tamashii Ramen. To the north is a large parcel slated for construction by Midtown Renaissance and in the immediate area are Fassler Hall / Dust Bowl, and the newly opened R&J Supper Club and Bleu Garten. The Edge at Midtown -- a huge residential complex -- just opened nearby and another of the same scale, LIFT, just started work to the west.


And how would you like to help in naming this project? The developers will be releasing detailed plans in December at which time OKCTalk will host a naming contest. The winning entry will receive a prize of good value (as in more than $100).


The architects will be ADG and the construction will be handled by Lingo.

http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/9thhudson.jpg

These developers do great work and this is sure to be a really slick project and perfect infill for this area.

Don't look know, but almost all the larger empty lots in Midtown are either under construction or soon will be.

Lots of small parcels but the bigger chunks are starting to dwindle fast.

I think it's kinda cool that you get to hold the naming contest.

Start thinking of ideas!

I've already got a million but will recuse myself. :)

A 15,000 square foot building and 20 town homes? Is this a misprint or something?

A 15,000 square foot building and 20 town homes? Is this a misprint or something?

15,000 square feet commercial plus the 20 townhomes.

15,000 square feet commercial plus the 20 townhomes.

On one acre? Will that even fit?

Awesome infill project!

On one acre? Will that even fit?

Sure!

An acre is 43,560 square feet and the commercial building along Hudson will only have a 5,000 SF footprint.

Lisbon Lofts is putting seven units on .3 acres and that's with mainly detached garages and lots of common area.

Sure!

An acre is 43,560 square feet and the commercial building along Hudson will only have a 5,000 SF footprint.

Lisbon Lofts is putting seven units on .3 acres and that's with mainly detached garages and lots of common area.

Thanks Pete. Just thinking 20 townhomes and a 15,000 sq foot commercial space going on there seems like too much. I think it will be safe to assume the alley to the south will be redone as townhomes most assuredly will be right next to it.

At 1,700 sq ft and 3 stories, it's safe to say these townhouses will not be taking up a lot of space.

I imagine they will look something like this: Narrow Townhome Plans, Townhouse Design, Town Home Floor Plans, Houston Texas, I (http://www.jackprestonwood.com/townhomeplane1146a12-p-2711.html) This type of design is very popular in Houston.

With a floor space of 20X41 ft, something like 20 of the above linked floor plan would only equal out to be 17K sq ft. Even when doubling this space for common areas and driveways, plus adding the commerical building, your are right at one acre.

Columbus has started requiring parking garages to be wrapped in housing, so we've got this preponderance of sliver condos that are like ten feet wide and three stories tall. But there is a market for it and it has worked in cities comparable to OKC!

Columbus has started requiring parking garages to be wrapped in housing, so we've got this preponderance of sliver condos that are like ten feet wide and three stories tall. But there is a market for it and it has worked in cities comparable to OKC! Pics please!!

What are the rules for musicians? Do we need a permit to play? I'm thinking about doing
a solo thing.

I see the place where my Dad's lab was located. It was in the basement of the
Lister Building just east of NW 12th and N Walker. I believe it's been turned into
apartments.

I see the Osler Building but I don't see the round building immediately east and
north on 11th. It was there last year. It's just behind the building on 425 NW 11th.
I believe it was 425 1/2.

I'm happy to hear about this project. I'd almost rather have it than new skyscrapers. The infill is important for the re-emergence of downtown.

When I was at H&8th last I was thinking about how awesome Hudson will be once it is filled in. This development is a great step towards that reality.

I'm happy to hear about this project. I'd almost rather have it than new skyscrapers. The infill is important for the re-emergence of downtown.

Good thing we get to have both new skyscrapers AND new low-rise infill.

I drove my wife by this area last night and told her what was going in. To which she replied, "What about parking? Where is everyone going to park who is going to H&8th?" As soon as she said that, I looked over and she was smiling from ear to ear because she knows people complaining about parking is one of my biggest pet peeves.

I drove my wife by this area last night and told her what was going in. To which she replied, "What about parking? Where is everyone going to park who is going to H&8th?" As soon as she said that, I looked over and she was smiling from ear to ear because she knows people complaining about parking is one of my biggest pet peeves.

Ha! That's exactly something my girlfriend would have done.

I drove my wife by this area last night and told her what was going in. To which she replied, "What about parking? Where is everyone going to park who is going to H&8th?" As soon as she said that, I looked over and she was smiling from ear to ear because she knows people complaining about parking is one of my biggest pet peeves.

That is one of the primary concerns of the suburbanite. Just watch the NewsOK comments every time an urban project is announced.

I've been waiting for these lots to see some action. They are so prime and in a great locations. I love that Midtown is getting more for sale townhomes, too. This is what is going to help bridge Deep Deuce to AA to Midtown, where moving between them on foot won't seem as disjointed or disconnected. Infill and high occupancy from Oklahoma to Walker, 2nd to 10th, will give OKC a pretty nice urban living environment .

Honestly that's just something suburbanites are going to have to get used to. I say this as a suburbanite.

To get an exciting, vibrant city, you need density. Things have to be close enough so you can easily and quickly walk to them. And you need a lot of things that close. You can't have that if you have easy parking. Cars just take up too much room.

And of course with the streetcar, you can just park your car remotely then ride to wherever you want.

Honestly that's just something suburbanites are going to have to get used to. I say this as a suburbanite.

To get an exciting, vibrant city, you need density. Things have to be close enough so you can easily and quickly walk to them. And you need a lot of things that close. You can't have that if you have easy parking. Cars just take up too much room.

Most people in OKC don't realize how easy parking actually is here. Go to any other city of comparable size and its significantly more difficult and you'll need to be prepared to walk a lot farther. To top it all off, be prepared to pay at least $15 for a spot. In OKC its pretty easy to get free parking as long as a major event isn't happening.

The more people we get who are living downtown, the less important additional parking will be. These 20 townhomes will each have a 2 car garage, so that's potentially 40 vehicles that won't be filling up space in a public garage. Presumably these will be people who work downtown, so they'll be able to take the streetcar to get to and from work, or dinner, or wherever they go. Duplicate this kind of development 50 times over (which we have ample room to do, in Midtown and AA) and that's two thousand cars that get left at home.

The more stuff we get downtown, the more people will want to live there. The more residents we get, the more stuff we will get.

if I were in OKC, I'd love to live in a townhome in downtown. I suspect I may not be alone, there might be a significant demand for it and that type of living.

if I were in OKC, I'd love to live in a townhome in downtown. I suspect I may not be alone, there might be a significant demand for it and that type of living.

It's the configuration of The Hill and they are now selling units as fast as they can build them.

I love this location because it's an easy walk to all of Midtown and downtown as well; plus the streetcar runs very near.

In the longer term, I believe Midtown will be the most desirable of all the urban neighborhoods.

It's the configuration of The Hill and they are now selling units as fast as they can build them.

I love this location because it's an easy walk to all of Midtown and downtown as well; plus the streetcar runs very near.

In the longer term, I believe Midtown will be the most desirable of all the urban neighborhoods.

Once developers see the demand for for-sale housing in this area from projects such as this and Lisbon Lofts, do you see there being a shift in focus to this segment vs. rent, or rent remaining a high percentage of the mix? It would be great to have more options to buy, as renting long-term doesn't make sense financially (at least for me).

Besides The Hill -- which started many years ago -- all the for sale housing has been small, infill projects. Civic Center Lofts is the one exception and they are in pre-sale right now and we'll have to wait and see how that goes, otherwise it might not get built at all; at least as condos.

But as rents in the core continue to rise, for-sale units in the $200-$250 / SF range start to make more sense, and that's really the level developers need in order to make much money.

This project will be around $230 / SF.

It's the configuration of The Hill and they are now selling units as fast as they can build them.

I love this location because it's an easy walk to all of Midtown and downtown as well; plus the streetcar runs very near.

In the longer term, I believe Midtown will be the most desirable of all the urban neighborhoods.

I agreee for me this location has far more appeal than the Hill. closer to a larger area of places I would frequent.

I have walked by this lot and the one directly north of it many times in the last 3 years and thought it would be perfect for townhomes. I just wished I had the money and know how to develop something like this. I think these lots originally had single family homes on them back in the day. You can still see remnants of old driveways there.

It seems very likely there will be a full grocery store on/near the Bleu Garten site in a few years and that alone will make Midtown incredibly desirable.

Imagine some version of Updtown Grocery on that spot... You'd really have it all if you lived within a few blocks and of course, could easily walk/ride your bike/take the street car to anywhere else downtown.

And with SoSa and lots more small infill to come, you know there will be a higher percentage of owner occupied living units than anywhere else downtown.

I've always thought Midtown had the most potential and you can now pretty much see how the area is going to develop from here on in.

Unfortunately, owning in this area is going to be expensive -- just like all the other new construction. You've got to count on around $225/SF so even for 1,000 SF you are pushing $250K plus HOA dues.

These units will be around 1,700 SF so closer to $400K each. But that will also include a 2-car garage and perhaps a rooftop deck, which would be very valuable private space not included in the $/SF cost.

Pics please!!

Here's one example in the Short North (most extreme example I know of):
http://www.columbusunderground.com/wp-content/themes/patterns/timthumb.php?src=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.columbusundergro und.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2013%2F09%2Fshort-north-hub-parking-garage.jpg&q=90&w=650&zc=1&

Here's another example on the south side of OSU:
http://www.pbase.com/kblanken/image/44309214.jpg

This is another example on the north side of OSU (although this one is an administrative office, and also not a sliver)
http://ad009cdnb.archdaily.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/1289415039-1-528x349.jpg

Others just aren't built yet.

I do think it's worth noting that while all of these are located in the High Street Corridor, none of these are directly on High Street and therefor aren't part of the High Street Urban Design Overlay. So this is just becoming a city-wide standard. For those not familiar with Columbus, it's basically a single urban corridor that continues for 10+ miles, surrounded by sunbelt sprawl.

Here's one example in the Short North (most extreme example I know of):
http://www.columbusunderground.com/wp-content/themes/patterns/timthumb.php?src=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.columbusundergro und.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2013%2F09%2Fshort-north-hub-parking-garage.jpg&q=90&w=650&zc=1&

Here's another example on the south side of OSU:
http://www.pbase.com/kblanken/image/44309214.jpg

This is another example on the north side of OSU (although this one is an administrative office, and also not a sliver)
http://ad009cdnb.archdaily.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/1289415039-1-528x349.jpg

Others just aren't built yet.

I do think it's worth noting that while all of these are located in the High Street Corridor, none of these are directly on High Street and therefor aren't part of the High Street Urban Design Overlay. So this is just becoming a city-wide standard. For those not familiar with Columbus, it's basically a single urban corridor that continues for 10+ miles, surrounded by sunbelt sprawl.

This sounds kind of like Madison, WI.

The entire south half of this block (between this development and 8th street) is taken up by some sort of shelter/halfway house/residential treatment center/correctional facility I've never been able to fully discern the details of. I'm sure they are doing good work. That being said, their various properties are old, and scattered about, and not in the best of condition. As the property value of their land increases, does anyone doubt they might be considering selling and using the windfall to build better digs in a different part of town?

Furthermore does anyone have any details about the entity I'm talking about? I ride my bike by there almost daily, and there is no sign out front or any other identifying information. Just a lot of down-on-their-luck men milling about.

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That entire block -- apart from this newly acquired property and the house immediate west -- is owned by Corsair Cattle Co. They were the sellers for this property as well.

They are primarily speculators and I suspect it's only a matter of time before someone makes them a good offer on the remainder of this block.

I won't reveal what this 1 acres sold for until the sale closes, but it was a bunch of money.

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That entire block -- apart from this newly acquired property and the house immediate west -- is owned by Corsair Cattle Co. They were the sellers for this property as well.

They are primarily speculators and I suspect it's only a matter of time before someone makes them a good offer on the remainder of this block.

I won't reveal what this 1 acres sold for until the sale closes, but it was a bunch of money.


Pete, do you know what the entity is that runs the shelter/halfway house thing I am talking about? Just curious.

Pete, do you know what the entity is that runs the shelter/halfway house thing I am talking about? Just curious.

It's a nonprofit substance abuse treatment center:

Catalyst Behavioral Services (http://www.catalystok.org/)

It's a nonprofit substance abuse treatment center:

Catalyst Behavioral Services (http://www.catalystok.org/)

I see. From what I can tell it is their "Communit Corrections Facility":

Catalyst Community Services are work release programs funded by the Oklahoma Department of Corrections. With locations in Oklahoma City and Enid, we work with non violent inmates who've had good conduct and are nearing the end of their prison sentence. Our primary function for the DOC is to help inmates gain employment prior to their release and begin the process of orienting themselves back into society, with safety for all Oklahoma citizens first and foremost.

We operate a male and female program with state of the art surveillance, thumb scan system for inmates checking from in from work and checking out for work, and numerous inmate counts 24 hours a day. We have many companies who are inmate friendly and are willing to give these men and women an opportunity and work with our program to insure inmates stick to their schedule, turn in their paychecks for deposit at DOC, and they inform us about any irregularities.

Each inmate is assigned a Case Manager who works with the individual to prepare them for their upcoming release. The Case Manager is responsible in helping the inmate acquire any necessary documents and identification needed for this huge transition. The successful re-entry and continued good behavior as a citizen is the goal, helping the state by reducing the rate of recidivism and saving taxpayer dollars in the process.

This explains the all-male nature of the place as well as its overall penal institution appearance.

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That entire block -- apart from this newly acquired property and the house immediate west -- is owned by Corsair Cattle Co. They were the sellers for this property as well.

They are primarily speculators and I suspect it's only a matter of time before someone makes them a good offer on the remainder of this block.

I won't reveal what this 1 acres sold for until the sale closes, but it was a bunch of money.

I would be fascinated to see what all the Corsair brothers are sitting on these days.

I would be fascinated to see what all the Corsair brothers are sitting on these days.

They still have a bunch of property scattered around Midtown but have sold quite a bit (this parcel, Main Street Arcade) and don't seem to be accumulating much more.

They bought pretty much on the cheap several years ago and are now making big profits in these flips.

Unfortunately, owning in this area is going to be expensive -- just like all the other new construction. You've got to count on around $225/SF so even for 1,000 SF you are pushing $250K plus HOA dues.

These units will be around 1,700 SF so closer to $400K each. But that will also include a 2-car garage and perhaps a rooftop deck, which would be very valuable private space not included in the $/SF cost.

While I love living downtown, It looks like I'll never be able to afford for sale. I'll be a renter forever apparently.

While I love living downtown, It looks like I'll never be able to afford for sale. I'll be a renter forever apparently.

That's alright. Enjoy the flexibility of renting.

That's alright. Enjoy the flexibility of renting.

Yep. Lots to be said for that.

I rented for a very long time and have owned for about 14 years and am strongly considering purging a lot of my crap and going back to being a much more minimalistic renter.

While I love living downtown, It looks like I'll never be able to afford for sale. I'll be a renter forever apparently.

It's flexible. Wait for the right opportunity to buy, it'll come along. I could buy but prefer to rent due to the lack of responsibility.

It's flexible. Wait for the right opportunity to buy, it'll come along. I could buy but prefer to rent due to the lack of responsibility.

I absolutely have loved the flexibility and lack of responsibility for big problems that comes with renting. I owned a house in Edmond for a year, had expensive problems, and I'm glad to not own again for a while... If ever. I live in relatively small, urban places and move if need be. It's not for everyone, but I'm definitely a happy renter.

Any updates on this?

Soon.

What's going on with this?

I've seen no activity with this, living a few blocks away.

There is still something happening here but it's evolving.

Can't say more without violation confidences.