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Didaskalos
09-02-2005, 01:34 PM
Fair question. Apparently, my timing is not the best. Or I just have very bad humor (which is more likely the case). Again, sorry that it wasn't funny. Heck, sorry I even posted it.

:surrender
No reason to apologize to me. Thanks for the discussion. In the end, you are the one still posting so it has to say something for your open-mindedness.

PUGalicious
09-02-2005, 01:35 PM
Side note: For someone who says he was done with the thread, he spends alot of time viewing it... eh Dungeon Master?

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Karried
09-02-2005, 01:42 PM
I can only imagine what we would all do to one another if placed in this situation - from the looks of our recent posts, it wouldn't be pretty! :boxing2:

Here's an idea....Let's spend our energy on thinking of ways to help the refugees instead of ways to take out the snipers ...

PUGalicious
09-02-2005, 01:47 PM
I can only imagine what we would all do to one another if placed in this situation - from the looks of our recent posts, it wouldn't be pretty! :boxing2:

Here's an idea....Let's spend our energy on thinking of ways to help the refugees instead of ways to take out the snipers ...
Agreed.

sweetdaisy
09-02-2005, 01:49 PM
Disclaimer: BAD "JOKE" TO FOLLOW

Y'know, Karried, I blame the looters. See what they've done to our sense of community here?


BTW, does anyone know of any volunteer needs around here to help the hurricane victims? I looked online last nite, but everyone just wants money. I don't have any of that. :(

Curt
09-02-2005, 01:56 PM
Can I ask something here without being accused of being a rascist? Who are the people doing most of the shooting and looting.

And yes, if someone is shooting at rescue workers, then they need to be neutralized.

PUGalicious
09-02-2005, 01:59 PM
Can I ask something here without being accused of being a rascist? Who are the people doing most of the shooting and looting.

And yes, if someone is shooting at rescue workers, then they need to be neutralized.
The impoverished of that city.

Curt
09-02-2005, 02:05 PM
The impoverished of that city.
I can accept that answer. But I know the real answer. And I am right.

PUGalicious
09-02-2005, 02:08 PM
I can accept that answer. But I know the real answer. And I am right.

And that's what makes it racist.

Curt
09-02-2005, 02:10 PM
And that's what makes it racist.
Because I am calling a criminal a criminal, that makes it rascist? dont understand that one.

PUGalicious
09-02-2005, 02:16 PM
Because I am calling a criminal a criminal, that makes it rascist? dont understand that one.
Why then would you ask the question, "Can I ask something here without being accused of being a rascist?" Why were you concerned that people would think you were racist?

What were you trying to imply by your question?

sweetdaisy
09-02-2005, 02:18 PM
ACK! I'm scared of where this is going.

So, again I ask, does anyone know of any hurrican relief volunteer opportunities around here?

PUGalicious
09-02-2005, 02:19 PM
I haven't seen anything anywhere.

Curt
09-02-2005, 02:19 PM
Why then would you ask the question, "Can I ask something here without being accused of being a rascist?" Why were you concerned that people would think you were racist?

What were you trying to imply by your question?
Because I did not want you to accuse me of being a rascist. Your still wrong by the way :)

PUGalicious
09-02-2005, 02:29 PM
Because I did not want you to accuse me of being a rascist. Your still wrong by the way :)
You didn't answer the subsequent questions.



Your still wrong by the way :)
Says you.

Curt
09-02-2005, 02:34 PM
You didn't answer the subsequent questions.



Says you.
I was just asking a question, again I am done bickering with you my friend. People need help, I am going to put my energy into writing a check to the Red Cross now.

PUGalicious
09-02-2005, 02:38 PM
I'm proud of you. You can do it. Put your energy into writing that check. I know how much energy writing a check can take. I was able to get through it though, I'm sure you can too!

Curt
09-02-2005, 02:40 PM
I'm proud of you. You can do it. Put your energy into writing that check. I know how much energy writing a check can take. I was able to get through it though, I'm sure you can too!
Thanks, next time I am in town, next month by the way. I would like to buy you dinner and smoke the peace pipe, I can say peace pipe because I am part Indian. But I would like to meet you and talk, I can do that.

PUGalicious
09-02-2005, 02:44 PM
Sure. I'll smoke the peace pipe with you, since I too am part Indian. Can I invite my Arab friends with me so we can discuss how they are ruining America?

Curt
09-02-2005, 02:56 PM
Sure. I'll smoke the peace pipe with you, since I too am part Indian. Can I invite my Arab friends with me so we can discuss how they are ruining America?
Sure, invite them along, my neices husband is Arabic and we get along great by the way. I also have black neighbors that I get along with because they are good people who dont go around hurting other people.

PUGalicious
09-02-2005, 03:04 PM
Good for them.

Perhaps your neice's husband could come along as well.

Didaskalos
09-02-2005, 03:23 PM
Sure, invite them along, my neices husband is Arabic and we get along great by the way. I also have black neighbors that I get along with because they are good people who dont go around hurting other people.
what, what, what??????
Funny, on the other thread you said... oh, let me remember "The problem is Scribe is this, they all hate us, but still want to live here and want us to accept their ways and bend over backwards to make them comfy. To come here, have babies then collect welfare, that they didnt earn. I see it everyday here. I hear how they can come here and do things they cant get away with in their own country because they know our laws wont punnish them as bad, I have heard this with my own ears. I have to repeatedly call the police on the ones next door because they cant pick up the trash in their yard, and they want me to welcome them with open arms. I myself am part Indian, Chippewa, but I dont expect a thing from the government, Arabs do.

Are you suggesting that not all Arabs hate us? I wonder how your neice's husband would respond to your post.

Curt
09-02-2005, 03:25 PM
Are you suggesting that not all Arabs hate us? I wonder how your neice's husband would respond to your post.
He would take my side and has taken my side, he doesnt even like is own people for what they have done, so there. End of argument, I won.

Didaskalos
09-02-2005, 03:26 PM
I can accept that answer. But I know the real answer. And I am right.
Instead of just knowing you are right, perhaps you could enlighten me as I am not as clear on this topic as you are. What is the "real answer"?

Didaskalos
09-02-2005, 03:27 PM
He would take my side and has taken my side, he doesnt even like is own people for what they have done, so there.
Ooh, that does hurt. Still you admitted you and an Arab apparently get along so I guess I was right!!

Curt
09-02-2005, 03:27 PM
Instead of just knowing you are right, perhaps you could enlighen me as I am not as clear on this topic as you are. What is the "real answer"?
I told you, criminals. What were you thinking?

Didaskalos
09-02-2005, 03:28 PM
I told you, criminals. What were you thinking?
That is what I was thinking, I am just wondering why you would think someone would accuse you of being rascist. Is criminal now a race?

Curt
09-02-2005, 03:28 PM
Ooh, that does hurt. Still you admitted you and an Arab apparently get along so I guess I was right!!
If that makes you feel better, ok, I will say you are right, now go eat your graham crackers and have your milk. I am done with you.

Didaskalos
09-02-2005, 03:29 PM
He would take my side and has taken my side, he doesnt even like is own people for what they have done, so there. End of argument, I won. So you are saying your neice's husband hates you. Well...

Didaskalos
09-02-2005, 03:31 PM
I am done with you.
That's probably best considering the entirety of your position is claiming victory without saying a thing.

Curt
09-02-2005, 03:33 PM
You know what, I like this board alot and I am not gonna sit here and argue with you anymore. I come here to make friends, you want to be my friend I can do that, if you dont, your loss not mine.

PUGalicious
09-02-2005, 03:34 PM
That's probably best considering the entirety of your position is claiming victory without saying a thing.

:LolLolLol

I was thinking the same thing. When someone has run out of steam (because their arguments have none), he arbitrarily declares an end to the debate and declares himself the winner.

Sounds alot like the current White House.

PUGalicious
09-02-2005, 03:36 PM
You know what, I like this board alot and I am not gonna sit here and argue with you anymore. I come here to make friends, you want to be my friend I can do that, if you dont, your loss not mine.
No loss here.

I'm glad you enjoy this board. But if you're going to say something, don't be surprised to be challenged if people find your statements lacking, troublesome or foolish.

Curt
09-02-2005, 03:38 PM
:LolLolLol

I was thinking the same thing. When someone has run out of steam (because their arguments have none), he arbitrarily declares an end to the debate and declares himself the winner.

Sounds alot like the current White House.
I have not run out of steam, I just choose to not turn this board into a fighting ring. You want to argue with me, e mail me and I will be happy to put you in your place.

PUGalicious
09-02-2005, 03:43 PM
I have not run out of steam, I just choose to not turn this board into a fighting ring. You want to argue with me, e mail me and I will be happy to put you in your place.
Could it be that you want to move it to email so you can abandon civility? Are your positions so untenable you don't want them to see the light of day?

If you don't want to continue, don't continue. I'm not fighting. Are you?

Curt
09-02-2005, 03:51 PM
Could it be that you want to move it to email so you can abandon civility? Are your positions so untenable you don't want them to see the light of day?

If you don't want to continue, don't continue. I'm not fighting. Are you?
Basically if you want to know how I feel, I have NO use for people that want to go around hurting other people, be them White, Black, purple, brown, Red,Clear..etc.

I dont discriminate, if you want to go around hurting other people I have NO use for you. I do own guns, to protect my self and for hunting, not for looting. If someone threatens to harm my family, friends or myself your damn right I am going to use it. And before you call me some sort of gun toting lunatic, I have taken many classes on firearm saftey and proper use and even took a citizens police academy course to better understand the way my police department works and what my rights are as a citizen.

PUGalicious
09-02-2005, 04:01 PM
Thank you for sharing that. That helps me understand your perspective.

Sometimes we say things in a way that does not give the best or most accurate impression of what we truly believe. Reasonable inferences drawn from previous comments paint a different picture than what you just described.

Hopefully, this clears up any misconceptions I and others may have had.

Curt
09-02-2005, 04:05 PM
Thank you for sharing that. That helps me understand your perspective.

Sometimes we say things in a way that does not give the best or most accurate impression of what we truly believe. Reasonable inferences drawn from previous comments paint a different picture than what you just described.

Hopefully, this clears up any misconceptions I and others may have had.
Your welcome and thank you.

Karried
09-02-2005, 04:10 PM
To be fair, Mariner62 ( my friend ) has been on this board for a very long long time and has never done or written anything to hurt anyone - always a very kind, nice and giving person .... he is really a good guy.

Perhaps we are all on edge due to the feelings of helplessness and despair that this situation has caused. I don't think we can judge our statements as normal feelings, just reacting to a tragedy and like SweetDaisy said, blowing off steam.

I say, again, let it go and let's put our energy where it is needed most -in trying to find a way to offer assistance and generate ideas for the refugees.

sweetdaisy
09-02-2005, 04:12 PM
To be fair, Mariner62 ( my friend ) has been on this board for a very long long time and has never done or written anything to hurt anyone - always a very kind, nice and giving person .... he is really a good guy.

Perhaps we are all on edge due to the feelings of helplessness and despair that this situation has caused. I don't think we can judge our statements as normal feelings, just reacting to a tragedy and like SweetDaisy said, blowing off steam.

I say, again, let it go and let's put our energy where it is needed most -in trying to find a way to offer assistance and generate ideas for the refugees.
:yourock:

Curt
09-02-2005, 04:16 PM
To be fair, Mariner62 ( my friend ) has been on this board for a very long long time and has never done or written anything to hurt anyone - always a very kind, nice and giving person .... he is really a good guy.

Perhaps we are all on edge due to the feelings of helplessness and despair that this situation has caused. I don't think we can judge our statements as normal feelings, just reacting to a tragedy and like SweetDaisy said, blowing off steam.

I say, again, let it go and let's put our energy where it is needed most -in trying to find a way to offer assistance and generate ideas for the refugees.
Thanks Karrie, I try to be a good person. Your right, everyone is on edge right now. Too bad we could not get a group together to go help out in some way, but right now the best thing for anyone to do is donate what we can, time money or food. One thing that may come out of all this tragedy is jobs in construction, not a good way to creat jobs by any means, but it may put some people to work for a couple years, who knows.

Didaskalos
09-02-2005, 04:36 PM
You know what, I like this board alot and I am not gonna sit here and argue with you anymore. I come here to make friends, you want to be my friend I can do that, if you dont, your loss not mine.
Sure, friends sounds great. We don't have to agree on everything do we?

Curt
09-02-2005, 04:45 PM
Sure, friends sounds great. We don't have to agree on everything do we?
Friends dont always agree on things, but can still be friends, my friend.
Like I said, I am done arguing. Things are too bad right now for any more of that.

Keith
09-02-2005, 11:35 PM
Friends dont always agree on things, but can still be friends, my friend.
Like I said, I am done arguing. Things are too bad right now for any more of that.
Wow....talk about a good debate. All of you are very passionate about your views and opinions. Just make sure that you respect the views of other posters, and, if they do not agree with what you are saying, then that's all right.

There is always room for healthy debate, however, there is no reason to argue with someone over what they believe. If they have stated their opinion, and you don't agree with it, there is really no reason to beat them up for what they believe.

I really think this thread has almost been beaten to death, however, I am going to leave it open, because I feel more opinions can be expressed in a respectful manner. If the same argument continues over and over again (like it has been), then I will close the thread.

I know that I started this thread, however, I did not realize how passionate some of the posters were about this subject. The points that have been made have been great, however, hashing it out over and over again about the same thing is not fruitful.

I have to agree with some of the ones that have tried to turn this thread into something positive, by asking what we can do to help these people. Who can we give monetary gifts too? Where can we take bottled water, clothing, personal higiene items, etc...?

If someone would like to start a thread on what we, as Oklahomans, can do to help those in Louisiana, I will make it a sticky thread so that it will always stay at the top. We have complained about the looting, the president, FEMA, and anybody else that we could possibly blame for what has happened. Now, let's discuss how we can help these people.

Curt
09-03-2005, 12:04 AM
We have complained about the looting, the president, FEMA, and anybody else that we could possibly blame for what has happened. Now, let's discuss how we can help these people.
Amen to that brother.