So if you buy using your "roll call" membership you dont have to order through ticketmaster or if you do you dont have to pay their fees?

So if you buy using your "roll call" membership you dont have to order through ticketmaster or if you do you dont have to pay their fees?

Correct. It's through the band's site, no Ticketmaster.

Now, there could be a price discrepancy that makes it close to even, but the MMJ site listed only a $.30 "processing" fee total. I don't know what TM will charge, but it's $10 per $22 ticket for Ben Rector.

oops

Correct. It's through the band's site, no Ticketmaster.

Now, there could be a price discrepancy that makes it close to even, but the MMJ site listed only a $.30 "processing" fee total. I don't know what TM will charge, but it's $10 per $22 ticket for Ben Rector.

are roll call tickets will-call?

are roll call tickets will-call?

Yes.

oops.

(what is wrong with me today)

Is the Critererion just starting to add events? I only see a few booked so far but I wonder if they will have a problem going against all the casinos for shows?

Is the Critererion just starting to add events? I only see a few booked so far but I wonder if they will have a problem going against all the casinos for shows?

I've only been to a couple of concerts at casinos so I'm far from an expert but I wouldn't think so. I've read that casinos are usually not the best setup for artists. I could be wrong but I would think if an act had a choice between a casino and an actual live music venue in downtown they would go with the live music venue.

Is the Critererion just starting to add events? I only see a few booked so far but I wonder if they will have a problem going against all the casinos for shows?

Yes. The first show was announced last Monday and these were just announced this week.

I think there's a lot of acts out on the theater circuit that aren't playing casinos. Casino's also seem to favor nostalgia acts and country. So, I think there's plenty of room for the Criterion to work with.

I've only been to a couple of concerts at casinos so I'm far from an expert but I wouldn't think so. I've read that casinos are usually not the best setup for artists. I could be wrong but I would think if an act had a choice between a casino and an actual live music venue in downtown they would go with the live music venue.

I would assume that the criterion will be much better than a casino setup goes but I am talking about dollars. Can Criterion compete with the Casinos in that department. Everything usually boils down to money.

Casinos hurt local concert markets for sure, but not so much in the portion of the market where this venue will be situated. As mentioned, they tend to focus more on classic acts and pop country, neither of which would probably be that big of a segment for this room, anyway. There might be crossover with some acts like Pretenders, James Taylor, Dylan, etc, but Criterion would generally not be booking acts like Foreigner, Wayne Newton, big R&B acts, Reba, etc., and casinos wouldn't be booking shows like MMJ or Ben Rector, nor would those acts generally play casinos.

The reason casinos are generally disruptive in the industry is because for the artists who play them they are a much higher payday and they encourage shorter sets in an effort to get people not the gaming floor ASAP.

Keep in Mind Criterion is promoted by Live Nation. They won't have any problem getting shows.

I would assume that the criterion will be much better than a casino setup goes but I am talking about dollars. Can Criterion compete with the Casinos in that department. Everything usually boils down to money.

Tulsa has much better casinos in their metro than OKC does and their venues don't have any problems getting shows.

The casinos and venues like the Criterion likely won't be competing for the same acts.

I'm really hoping that this results in us stealing some shows from Tulsa.
Tom Waits and the Pixies played the Brady...they aren't casino acts. I can really see them playing the Criterion.

I'm okay with having the same acts that stop in Tulsa stop in OKC. I just want parity, no need to "steal".

I don't see many acts stopping in Tulsa AND OKC, so yeah we need to steal some of those shows :Smiley122

Tulsa has much better casinos in their metro than OKC does and their venues don't have any problems getting shows.

The casinos and venues like the Criterion likely won't be competing for the same acts.

What the Hard Rock Casino? Pretty much everything else is the same as OKC are they not? I don't go to casinos very often so maybe I am off base. But OKC being much larger than Tulsa one would think our casinos would be just as good. What am I missing here? I want good casinos!

What the Hard Rock Casino? Pretty much everything else is the same as OKC are they not? I don't go to casinos very often so maybe I am off base. But OKC being much larger than Tulsa one would think our casinos would be just as good. What am I missing here? I want good casinos!

Hard Rock and River Spirit/Margaritaville.

My point was if those casinos don't detract from Tulsa getting good concerts, then Riverwind should detract from OKC. Casinos don't usually compete for the same acts anyways.

I'm really hoping that this results in us stealing some shows from Tulsa.
Tom Waits and the Pixies played the Brady...they aren't casino acts. I can really see them playing the Criterion.

the Pixies played OKC a few years ago.

^^^
Yeah my bad, forgot about that one. Terrible venue...Bricktown Events Center.

^^^
Yeah my bad, forgot about that one. Terrible venue...Bricktown Events Center.

yes it was before the Bricktown events center remodel.

If OKC works from the premise of OKC has to "steal" shows from Tulsa to be successful, OKC will fail as a concert market. That is the same line of thinking that has caused an OKC-based promoter to steer most of his quality shows to Tulsa for the past couple of decades. For all of these great new venues to work will require OKC to hold its own as a market, and for the state to emerge as a two-stop market on many tours (which it will). Tulsa will still get just as many shows, because it is an established, proven market.

Also, regarding Bricktown Events Center, it wasn't a great venue before the remodel, but it is a fantastic venue today. You can't make a direct comparison to Criterion since Criterion isn't open yet, but the Chevy is comparable to what I expect from the Criterion. Hopefully the promoters that they have been working with will step up their respective games with the new competition from Criterion/Tower/Levelland, and everyone will benefit in the end. I think it is also possible that - assuming Levelland and the owners of the Chevy maintain a good working relationship - you will perhaps see some overflow and conflict dates booked by Levelland end up at Chevy. There is no reason that they can't also book shows there, if their own venues have a conflict for whatever reason.

I used to be the tour manager for Shiny Toy Guns and I was shocked at how much ridicule OKC received because of the Diamond. I am excited at all the new venues that are slated to open. Long overdue, IMHO.

mmj tix are $43 total (30.50 + fees). livenation presale going today on ticketmaster.

mmj tix are $43 total (30.50 + fees). livenation presale going today on ticketmaster.

$15 for MMJ's Roll Call program was well spent, got 2 tickets for $86.20 (including the $15), and Ticketbastard gets none of our money!

$15 for MMJ's Roll Call program was well spent, got 2 tickets for $86.20 (including the $15), and Ticketbastard gets none of our money!

Haha. Yeah, that was an added bonus. Though, there could be some contractual obligation to ticket master for the tickets they got to list themselves. Either way, I'm sure ticket master is doing just fine in the deal, but hopefully a little bit more went to the band's top line going through the club. They at least got their $15 from me and I happy to give it to them.

Got my ticket yesterday. Haven't seen MMJ live since I caught them in Dallas a few years back. That Dallas concert was a top 3 concert for me. They are crazy good live.

Fired up about MMJ and Ben Folds!

Just heard an ad for Weezer coming to the Zoo Amphitheater in June.

You can see bricks starting to be installed just to the left of the entrance.

http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/criterion012316.jpg

Just heard an ad for Weezer coming to the Zoo Amphitheater in June.

Yep, with Panic! At The Disco.

https://www.facebook.com/events/1549495028697804/

new criterion shows announced:

third eye blind - april 2
rick springfield "stripped down" - april 9

new criterion shows announced:

third eye blind - april 2
rick springfield "stripped down" - april 9

Well they can't all be winners lol

Third Eye Blind is a good get. Been wanting to see them for a long time now.

I'm still hoping for 311 and Gorillaz (although G has probably less than 1% chance of happening)

Love Third Eye Blind! Now we're talking.

Third Eye Blind is a good get. Been wanting to see them for a long time now.

I'm still hoping for 311 and Gorillaz (although G has probably less than 1% chance of happening)

Gorillaz would be awesome, but are they doing anything now that Blur's back in business?

Hell yeah to Third Eye Blind, won't have to see them at the zoo/Tulsa anymore. Third Eye Blind is definitely one of those bands that falls into the category of either the Diamond Ballroom or Tulsa (if not playing outdoors), so that's already showing some of the value The Criterion and Live Nation bring.

They may have got all they could out of the Gorillaz, and would probably prefer to close it on a high note (The Fall was a great album). But there have been rumors of a new album they want to record so we'll see where that leads. They rarely did shows anyway so its just a big pipe dream right now. Plus with Blur back on the scene new Gorillaz stuff might get pushed to the side anyway.

The variety in these first bookings almost feels deliberate, like they're saying "yes, you can expect some of THIS too..." About the only things missing at this point that I'd expect to see with some regularity is alt-country/Red Dirt, and Boomer-oriented acts like James Taylor. I'm sure you'll also see occasional metal and hip hop, but would expect those to be pretty carefully curated.

gorillaz are still in business:
Damon Albarn: the next Gorillaz album will be fast and energetic | Music | The Guardian (http://www.theguardian.com/music/2015/oct/15/damon-albarn-the-next-gorillaz-album-will-be-fast-and-energetic)

About the only things missing at this point that I'd expect to see with some regularity is alt-country/Red Dirt,

Certainly what I'm hoping to see with this, or one of the other venues in progress.... I've been to Tulsa, Dallas, and St Louis in the last few months to see Drive-By Truckers, Lucero, Bottle Rockets, and Old 97's.... Sure wish I could see some of them without having to drive home during the early hours of the morning..... Would also like to see someone bring Cracker or Todd Snider to town.

Certainly what I'm hoping to see with this, or one of the other venues in progress.... I've been to Tulsa, Dallas, and St Louis in the last few months to see Drive-By Truckers, Lucero, Bottle Rockets, and Old 97's.... Sure wish I could see some of them without having to drive home during the early hours of the morning..... Would also like to see someone bring Cracker or Todd Snider to town.

this sounds like it's right up your alley:

We’re pretty damn excited to announce the first ever Old 97’s County Fair, this April 16 in downtown Dallas. Featuring live performances from:

Old 97’s
Drive By Truckers
Lucero
Deer Tick
Justin Townes Earle
Nikki Lane
Brent Best
Madison King

And tons of fun for the whole family, including:
Ferris Wheel
Midway games
Dunk Tanks
Food Trucks
Fair Food (corn dogs, funnel cakes, etc)
Local Artists and Vendors
Kids Under 10 are Free
Dog Friendly

- See more at: Old97's » Announcing the Old 97?s County Fair! (http://old97s.com/2016/01/19/announcing-the-old-97s-county-fair/#sthash.XMbDq1Gb.dpuf)

I am curious that since Levelland is booking the bands both here for the Tower Theatre if we will see a drop off once both are up and running or will we see more bookings as there are now more venues.

this sounds like it's right up your alley:

Yep... Bought VIP tickets to that show as soon as they went live with them... lol

Don't tell anyone but I'm even ditching one of the top KCBS contests in the state this year to go see this show.... Shhhhhh! ;+)

I am curious that since Levelland is booking the bands both here for the Tower Theatre if we will see a drop off once both are up and running or will we see more bookings as there are now more venues.

Just a gut, but I hope the December booking of Brian Regan is indicative that they plan to be planning well ahead in their bookings rather than just grabbing shows as tours are rounding out. If we become a city that is announced early in tours rather just being there to fill in empty nights between already-booked nights in larger cities, we have a much better chance at a large number of shows. If we are just a catch-as-catch-can market, we will be much more hit or miss.

Third Eye Blind is a good get. Been wanting to see them for a long time now.

I'm still hoping for 311 and Gorillaz (although G has probably less than 1% chance of happening)

Third Eye Blind was just here last June at the Zoo Amp with Dashboard Confessional. They put on a great show. Interestingly enough, while I was at that concert, I thought that both acts would have been much better suited in a venue like The Criterion. Will most likely get tickets for this show!

Anyone happen to know the presale code for Third Eye Blind?

anyone happen to know the presale code for third eye blind?

dopamine

Surrounding retail success holds key for Bricktown music district's survival in Oklahoma City | News OK (http://newsok.com/surrounding-retail-success-holds-key-for-bricktown-music-districts-survival-in-oklahoma-city/article/5474745)

Steve seems to suggest that the success of this venue may contribute to the mix of tenants that end up at the Steelyard. Agree or disagree?

ad in today's gazette has disclosure playing may 13.

Surrounding retail success holds key for Bricktown music district's survival in Oklahoma City | News OK (http://newsok.com/surrounding-retail-success-holds-key-for-bricktown-music-districts-survival-in-oklahoma-city/article/5474745)

Steve seems to suggest that the success of this venue may contribute to the mix of tenants that end up at the Steelyard. Agree or disagree?

Seriously? Steelyard residents will be able to literally walk across the street to see actual legit shows in a legit venue. That is something unheard of for OKC.

Any restaurants that survive in Bricktown can certainly benefit from nearby entertainment venues. Chesapeake Energy Arena is the main venue attraction. Criterion Concert Hall, Chevy Events Center and other smaller halls & outdoor attractions in the area will provide more opportunities to generate revenue for the area.

Oklahoma City continues to build on various entertainment, restaurants; however lacks a strong retail presence. You'll probably see more retail expansion coincide with the growth of the core residency.

Really feel that the area is ripe for future investment & growth.

Surrounding retail success holds key for Bricktown music district's survival in Oklahoma City | News OK (http://newsok.com/surrounding-retail-success-holds-key-for-bricktown-music-districts-survival-in-oklahoma-city/article/5474745)

Steve seems to suggest that the success of this venue may contribute to the mix of tenants that end up at the Steelyard. Agree or disagree?

Agree,

Any restaurants that survive in Bricktown can certainly benefit from nearby entertainment venues. Chesapeake Energy Arena is the main venue attraction. Criterion Concert Hall, Chevy Events Center and other smaller halls & outdoor attractions in the area will provide more opportunities to generate revenue for the area.

Oklahoma City continues to build on various entertainment, restaurants; however lacks a strong retail presence. You'll probably see more retail expansion coincide with the growth of the core residency.

Really feel that the area is ripe for future investment & growth especially with a mix of nearby tenants.

There is plenty more coming to Bricktown.

ad in today's gazette has disclosure playing may 13.

That would be AMAZING! Probably one of my favorite music groups at the moment, but I didn't see it on their website yet. Looks like they play Coachella right before that and then bounce back to the UK in June. So if this is true I imagine a fair number of people from this part of the country will head to OKC for this show.

ad in today's gazette has disclosure playing may 13.

WOAH.. that would be awesome!

Any restaurants that survive in Bricktown can certainly benefit from nearby entertainment venues. Chesapeake Energy Arena is the main venue attraction. Criterion Concert Hall, Chevy Events Center and other smaller halls & outdoor attractions in the area will provide more opportunities to generate revenue for the area.

Oklahoma City continues to build on various entertainment, restaurants; however lacks a strong retail presence. You'll probably see more retail expansion coincide with the growth of the core residency.

Really feel that the area is ripe for future investment & growth.

Waffle House would kill it down there.....

ad in today's gazette has disclosure playing may 13.

WOAH.. that would be awesome!

That would be AMAZING! Probably one of my favorite music groups at the moment, but I didn't see it on their website yet. Looks like they play Coachella right before that and then bounce back to the UK in June. So if this is true I imagine a fair number of people from this part of the country will head to OKC for this show.
Seriously, if that's that true, I think that's the biggest booking yet. Even though they're EDM music, they're definitely the group that's gotten the most recent acclaim and international fame of all the groups that have been booked thus far.

There is plenty more coming to Bricktown.

Go on...

Go on...

What we know about:
350 units at Steelyard
Criterion
AC Hotel
Hyatt Place
Structured parking and retail at Sheridan & Oklahoma
Cummins Building
Canopy Hotel in Bodyworks development
200+ condos/apartments in Bodyworks development
9-10 story hotel at Sheridan & Oklahoma
All About Cha in Mideke
Brewers Building renovation / housing

Things in the works:
Retail / restaurants for Steelyard
Restaurant / bar in The Plow
More tenants in The Plow
At least one more hotel
More structured parking
New bar / restaurant in building east of Whiskey Chicks (Richard McKown renovation)
More housing