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Plutonic Panda 07-23-2017, 09:25 PM Another study ranks Oklahoma as one of the worst states for aggressive drivers.
http://kfor.com/2017/07/22/new-study-says-oklahoma-drivers-arent-courteous-on-the-road/
Thomas Vu 07-23-2017, 09:52 PM ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
dankrutka 07-23-2017, 10:18 PM 3rd worst state to live in.
http://www.cullmantimes.com/cnhi_network/america-s-worst-states-to-live-in-no-is-alabama/article_94cf806a-7f59-52fa-a60e-40734c6f99cb.html
Ranking the "best" and "worst" states to live in is a pseudo-scientific endeavor unless you operationalize what those terms mean and then have extremely well thought out methods for the study (even then the claims are pretty silly). My point is, just tinkering with any specific criteria and the point value can move states up and down the list. As you can tell, it bugs me that our culture sends around these rankings without a second thought. While it provided no details no how they calculated their numbers, here's what this article said to this regard:
Every year since 2006, CNBC has conducted a study ranking American states from best to worst for business by measuring various categories, including one that compares the 50 states on their overall livability based on factors like crime rate, attractions, air quality, health care and legal protections against discrimination.
Apparently, consumers of this article have to find the actual CNBC study themselves since this clickbait site didn't even provide a link to the study that the entire article is based on. /rant over
chuck5815 07-23-2017, 11:15 PM Ranking the "best" and "worst" states to live in is a pseudo-scientific endeavor unless you operationalize what those terms mean and then have extremely well thought out methods for the study (even then the claims are pretty silly). My point is, just tinkering with any specific criteria and the point value can move states up and down the list. As you can tell, it bugs me that our culture sends around these rankings without a second thought. While it provided no details no how they calculated their numbers, here's what this article said to this regard:
Apparently, consumers of this article have to find the actual CNBC study themselves since this clickbait site didn't even provide a link to the study that the entire article is based on. /rant over
Pretty bizarre that West Virginia isn't on that list. In almost every measurable way, it's much, much worse than Oklahoma. And it's really not even close.
dcsooner 07-24-2017, 01:33 AM Ranking the "best" and "worst" states to live in is a pseudo-scientific endeavor unless you operationalize what those terms mean and then have extremely well thought out methods for the study (even then the claims are pretty silly). My point is, just tinkering with any specific criteria and the point value can move states up and down the list. As you can tell, it bugs me that our culture sends around these rankings without a second thought. While it provided no details no how they calculated their numbers, here's what this article said to this regard:
Apparently, consumers of this article have to find the actual CNBC study themselves since this clickbait site didn't even provide a link to the study that the entire article is based on. /rant over
Oklahoma consistently ranks qt the bottom of mqny measures of prosperity and Quality of life, no matter how people try to spin the fact; simply not a well regarded state
Plutonic Panda 07-24-2017, 01:52 AM Ranking the "best" and "worst" states to live in is a pseudo-scientific endeavor unless you operationalize what those terms mean and then have extremely well thought out methods for the study (even then the claims are pretty silly). My point is, just tinkering with any specific criteria and the point value can move states up and down the list. As you can tell, it bugs me that our culture sends around these rankings without a second thought. While it provided no details no how they calculated their numbers, here's what this article said to this regard:
Apparently, consumers of this article have to find the actual CNBC study themselves since this clickbait site didn't even provide a link to the study that the entire article is based on. /rant overI'm not going to argue this because one could find paradise in Oklahoma and it's very subjective. I do want to note and though it's easily explainable by the bias here, most negative rankings for the state here are met with reasons as to why they're invalid yet if there is a positive ranking then most either agree or don't say anything. Just something I've noticed here.
dankrutka 07-24-2017, 09:31 AM Oklahoma consistently ranks qt the bottom of mqny measures of prosperity and Quality of life, no matter how people try to spin the fact; simply not a well regarded state
Just to be clear, I never made the argument Oklahoma should or shouldn't be on the list.
Bunty 07-25-2017, 10:30 AM Oh, and removing inspections bugged me. There are now cars with bald tires, bad exhaust, and non functioning lights all over the road. Why in the world did we remove the inspection requirements?
Probably because full service stations and car repair shops weren't making money from it. At least new ars are made safer.
FighttheGoodFight 07-25-2017, 01:23 PM Probably because full service stations and car repair shops weren't making money from it. At least new ars are made safer.
Saved $12 million.
http://www.oksenate.gov/news/press_releases/press_releases_2001/pr050101.html
I would love an inspection after like 3 years of having a new vehicle then everyone two years or one year after that. I would imagine this would help with car insurance rates as well too. Not to mention the insane amount of vehicles that are on the road unsafe.
jerrywall 07-25-2017, 01:36 PM I never understood why people considered getting an inspection a hassle. There were at least 5 places in Edmond and lots more in OKC that did them, and it took minutes once a year. If anything, it was nice to get a professional to check out my brakes and tires when I was a young driver.
The only thing I liked about the elimination of inspections was that I was able to put street legal slicks and straight pipes on my racecar.
jn1780 07-25-2017, 04:20 PM I never understood why people considered getting an inspection a hassle. There were at least 5 places in Edmond and lots more in OKC that did them, and it took minutes once a year. If anything, it was nice to get a professional to check out my brakes and tires when I was a young driver.
The only thing I liked about the elimination of inspections was that I was able to put street legal slicks and straight pipes on my racecar.
Inspections were eliminated shortly before I started driving, but I seem to remember some people being concerned about the same people doing inspections also selling automotive services and thus creating a conflict of interest?
jerrywall 07-25-2017, 04:23 PM Inspections were eliminated shortly before I started driving, but I seem to remember some people being concerned about the same people doing inspections also selling automotive services and thus creating a conflict of interest?
Maybe, although the inspections were pretty basic IIRC. Disc brake condition, tire tread, horn and light functionality, and making sure the exhaust was still there and wasn't leaking, so it would be hard to manufacture repair needs.
EnragedOUfan 07-26-2017, 07:09 PM Maybe, although the inspections were pretty basic IIRC. Disc brake condition, tire tread, horn and light functionality, and making sure the exhaust was still there and wasn't leaking, so it would be hard to manufacture repair needs.
After spending time on the east coast where pretty much every state requires a vehicle inspection, I personally see no issues with it. It for sure mitigates cars on the side of the interstate.
traxx 07-28-2017, 11:04 AM After spending time on the east coast where pretty much every state requires a vehicle inspection, I personally see no issues with it. It for sure mitigates cars on the side of the interstate.
I didn't notice an increase in vehicles on the side of the road since inspections were scrapped.
chuck5815 07-28-2017, 11:48 AM There is some pretty good evidence that inspections (a) don't increase public safety and (b) don't contribute to vehicular reliability. The only guarantee with these programs is additional revenue for the state and conflicts of interest for whichever shops get to perform the inspections.
FighttheGoodFight 07-28-2017, 12:10 PM I just checked the numbers for car insurance average per state ($1325 annually). Total states that do inspections are 13. Five of those states are at average or above. Eight of those states are below average.
Kind of a wash.
jerrywall 07-28-2017, 12:57 PM I have no idea if it affects insurance, or even general safety, but the idea that people are checked once a year (on top of when they renew their tag) that they have valid insurance, decent tires, and functioning brake systems sure made me feel better on the road. And more so now that I have two children driving.
traxx 07-28-2017, 01:03 PM I have no idea if it affects insurance, or even general safety, but the idea that people are checked once a year (on top of when they renew their tag) that they have valid insurance, decent tires, and functioning brake systems sure made me feel better on the road. And more so now that I have two children driving.
I never held much confidence in inspections making anything more safe. We all knew there were those shops that would pass pretty much any vehicle. You knew where to find them. And so did the people that had less than stellar vehicles.
FighttheGoodFight 07-28-2017, 01:08 PM I have no idea if it affects insurance, or even general safety, but the idea that people are checked once a year (on top of when they renew their tag) that they have valid insurance, decent tires, and functioning brake systems sure made me feel better on the road. And more so now that I have two children driving.
I can see that. I just want our car insurance to go down by getting some people to buy some insurance. It is ridiculous that 1 in 4 doesn't have insurance. That also worries me as I feel people who don't have insurance are going to hit and run my family.
jerrywall 07-28-2017, 01:33 PM I can see that. I just want our car insurance to go down by getting some people to buy some insurance. It is ridiculous that 1 in 4 doesn't have insurance. That also worries me as I feel people who don't have insurance are going to hit and run my family.
I've been in two wrecks in my life, neither my fault. Both times the other driver had no insurance (and in one case, no ID and was here illegally - they went to jail). It's why I carry full insurance on all my vehicles. It's nuts.
I'm all for the automatic scanning of license plates to check against the insurance database, or even going further and do like some states do and revoke your plates if your insurance expires. Driving isn't a right and if you can't afford insurance (or decent tires or brakes) then walk or ride the bus.
MitchellCole 07-28-2017, 04:16 PM 3rd worst state to live in.
http://www.cullmantimes.com/cnhi_network/america-s-worst-states-to-live-in-no-is-alabama/article_94cf806a-7f59-52fa-a60e-40734c6f99cb.html
A bunch of republican states. Big shocker.
jerrywall 07-28-2017, 04:25 PM There's a forum at the bottom of the list of forums on the main page. ^^ stuff belongs in there.
Bunty 07-28-2017, 09:24 PM A bunch of republican states. Big shocker.
Life is how you make it. People who aren't making it in Oklahoma should move to a better state. For a hint as to which one: Colorado min. wage: $9.30 hr., Oklahoma min. wage $7.25 an hour.
dcsooner 07-29-2017, 12:57 AM Sad. Thank you Republicans
jerrywall 07-29-2017, 05:25 AM Our rank position on the BS list was driven by health levels, smoking, and number of attractions. I doubt it would have been any different 15 years ago. But yeah, make it about politics and kill another thread. Geeze.
dcsooner 07-29-2017, 06:21 AM Politics and by extension politicians exist to provide for and improve the lives of it's citizens through legislation and proactive economic programs. The Republican controlled Oklahoma Statehouse, congressional delegation, Mayor of both major cities are Republicans and have failed miserably to improve the lives of the citizens. This State has for years if not decades landed in the bottom quartile in most measures of economic, educational or quality of life measures.
I say all this not because I dislike my home State but because it's residents continue to elect the same people/party for reasons unknown to me.
jerrywall 07-29-2017, 06:24 AM I didn't realize state legislature makes people smokes. But ok. Lol.
Bunty 07-29-2017, 12:20 PM Politics and by extension politicians exist to provide for and improve the lives of it's citizens through legislation and proactive economic programs. The Republican controlled Oklahoma Statehouse, congressional delegation, Mayor of both major cities are Republicans and have failed miserably to improve the lives of the citizens. This State has for years if not decades landed in the bottom quartile in most measures of economic, educational or quality of life measures.
I say all this not because I dislike my home State but because it's residents continue to elect the same people/party for reasons unknown to me.
Incumbents sometimes don't get opposition from opposing party. Those they do may not get opponents with impressive backgrounds. As for Democrat candidates that do have impressive backgrounds, a lot of Oklahoma voters won't vote for Democrats, because Democrats are associated with supporting more welfare or entitlements, such as ObamaCare's additional Medicaid. It also an issue that Democrats don't support Christian Right causes, such as banning abortion and gay rights.
By the way Republicans legislators with impressive backgrounds vote makes me wonder if they have needed government much. They vote for public education like they send their children and grand children to private schools and universities.
Like I said before, people who are having problems, such as those on a long waiting list for help from the state, should leave Oklahoma. But the situation is going too far when teachers leave the state for better pay. From the opposite side it's part of the culture. Some people lack the ambition to improve their lives and aren't going to take advantage of what the government offers, such as job skill classes at Career Tech. Such people help bring down Oklahoma's quality of life rankings. In other words, you can bring a horse to water, but you can not make him drink.
dcsooner 07-29-2017, 03:27 PM Oklahoma IS a welfare State. Take away government jobs at the Federal and State level and the majority of high paying jobs outside of oil and gas which is an has been struggling and the Oklahoma economy would be near third world. No significant manufacturing, R&D or knowledge based industries. We get 100 jobs for a water company and hurray. What is the point of having all these great CofC best city for... Accolades when they don't translate to more and better jobs, which drive demand which drives growth etc. Simple truth Oklahoma is a follower State not an innovative one, about 5-10 years behind almost any other. Republican politics in the State has not proven to generate the economic stimulus it proports to stimulate.
jerrywall 07-29-2017, 03:44 PM Our economy was totally different twenty years ago. Wait, it was. Way worse. I prefer now to the 80s.
Bunty 07-29-2017, 06:31 PM Oklahoma IS a welfare State. Take away government jobs at the Federal and State level and the majority of high paying jobs outside of oil and gas which is an has been struggling and the Oklahoma economy would be near third world. No significant manufacturing, R&D or knowledge based industries. We get 100 jobs for a water company and hurray. What is the point of having all these great CofC best city for... Accolades when they don't translate to more and better jobs, which drive demand which drives growth etc. Simple truth Oklahoma is a follower State not an innovative one, about 5-10 years behind almost any other. Republican politics in the State has not proven to generate the economic stimulus it proports to stimulate.
Did the governor ever hold a special day of prayer for other industry besides for the oil fields? I doubt it. The sorry situation is how most Oklahomans want it. They are happy to live in a less than mediocre state in so many ways. Probably the majority seldom venture outside the state to see how the rest of the world lives for the better. I think Oklahoma will simply continue sorta playing catch up but always staying behind. Voters approving of alcohol law reform and medical marijuana in 2018 would represent a little more than sorta catching up, though. But far too slow in coming.
jerrywall 08-01-2017, 11:13 AM Oklahoma IS a welfare State. Take away government jobs at the Federal and State level and the majority of high paying jobs outside of oil and gas which is an has been struggling and the Oklahoma economy would be near third world. No significant manufacturing, R&D or knowledge based industries. We get 100 jobs for a water company and hurray. What is the point of having all these great CofC best city for... Accolades when they don't translate to more and better jobs, which drive demand which drives growth etc. Simple truth Oklahoma is a follower State not an innovative one, about 5-10 years behind almost any other. Republican politics in the State has not proven to generate the economic stimulus it proports to stimulate.
Oklahoma has about two thousand manufacturing establishments with well over 100k employed. We export over 400 million dollars worth of civilian aircraft and parts world wide. Swine exports is over 100 million itself. Pumps, heat exchangers, electric conductors, and such represent hundreds of millions as well. My wife works for a company that builds out control systems for locomotives and construction equipment. They are one of Halliburton's main suppliers, and are one of the top R&D firms in this area in the world.
Yes, we have lots of oil and gas industry. Oklahoma is an energy state. But we're also one of the largest producers and exporters of solar and wind based energy. We have a huge nanotechnology R&D industry in Oklahoma as well, and while many of them are energy based, many of them are not and are focused in the areas of healthcare, and general manufacturing.
Basically, this entire post of wrong.
It's OK to be critical when the state does stuff wrong, but I've never seen you post a single positive thing about Oklahoma. And the misinformation you spout is even worse.
jerrywall 08-01-2017, 11:18 AM Did the governor ever hold a special day of prayer for other industry besides for the oil fields.
Did any other industry or groups request it? You know there is a simple process for requesting a proclamation and assuming they're not intentionally trollish or offensive they are almost always approved, done by the staff, and the governor just rubber stamps them, right? This prayer day has been done for years and years and is always requested by the Christian Oil Alliance. I think it's silly, but this perception that the governor just "decided" to have a prayer day for oil is asinine.
chuck5815 08-01-2017, 11:58 AM Oklahoma IS a welfare State. Take away government jobs at the Federal and State level and the majority of high paying jobs outside of oil and gas which is an has been struggling and the Oklahoma economy would be near third world. No significant manufacturing, R&D or knowledge based industries. We get 100 jobs for a water company and hurray. What is the point of having all these great CofC best city for... Accolades when they don't translate to more and better jobs, which drive demand which drives growth etc. Simple truth Oklahoma is a follower State not an innovative one, about 5-10 years behind almost any other. Republican politics in the State has not proven to generate the economic stimulus it proports to stimulate.
Why would you take away government jobs in your hypothetical? I can understand hypotheticals where consolidation in the oil and gas business results in Devon or Continental being bought out by some larger player in Houston or Dallas. That's somewhat realistic. But is the government going to simply shut down? There's just no basis in reality for using that proposition to devalue the state.
FighttheGoodFight 08-01-2017, 01:27 PM Oklahoma is 8th fattest state with a 33.9% obesity rate.
http://www.news9.com/story/36022331/oklahoma-among-top-10-fattest-states-in-the-country-according-to-cdc
jerrywall 08-01-2017, 01:43 PM Oklahoma is 8th fattest state with a 33.9% obesity rate.
http://www.news9.com/story/36022331/oklahoma-among-top-10-fattest-states-in-the-country-according-to-cdc
Ww also are surprisingly high on the ranks for smoking compared to Texas. Our health rankings in those two metrics affect us a lot in general QOL metrics.
jerrywall 08-01-2017, 01:48 PM On a side note, while I don't argue with the validity of this list, I hate that they are still using BMI to calculate obesity rates. BMI is a terrible metric (and doesn't work for different body types).
dcsooner 08-02-2017, 06:41 AM Oklahoma has about two thousand manufacturing establishments with well over 100k employed. We export over 400 million dollars worth of civilian aircraft and parts world wide. Swine exports is over 100 million itself. Pumps, heat exchangers, electric conductors, and such represent hundreds of millions as well. My wife works for a company that builds out control systems for locomotives and construction equipment. They are one of Halliburton's main suppliers, and are one of the top R&D firms in this area in the world.
Yes, we have lots of oil and gas industry. Oklahoma is an energy state. But we're also one of the largest producers and exporters of solar and wind based energy. We have a huge nanotechnology R&D industry in Oklahoma as well, and while many of them are energy based, many of them are not and are focused in the areas of healthcare, and general manufacturing.
Basically, this entire post of wrong.
It's OK to be critical when the state does stuff wrong, but I've never seen you post a single positive thing about Oklahoma. And the misinformation you spout is even worse.
Oklahoma Employment Outlook 2016
Overview
The three supersectors expected to account for most of the state’s job growth are educational & health services, professional & business services, and leisure & hospitality. When combined, these three supersectors will account for nearly 60 percent of all job growth over the 2006-to-2016 projection period.
The educational & health services supersector is expected to add more than 48,000 jobs during the projection period. Educational services will produce 18,580 new jobs, while health services will add 29,690 jobs. The health services growth will be spread across all four of its component industries (ambulatory health care services, hospitals, nursing & residential care facilities, and social assistance). This growth is the result of the gradually aging population and its increased future health care needs coupled with advances in new technologies that increase life expectancies.
Professional & business services is projected to gain over 34,000 jobs between 2006 and 2016. This large gain will result in a job growth rate of more than 19 percent, the highest among all supersectors. The professional, scientific & technical services and administrative & support
services industries will provide all of the supersector’s growth during the period, as management of companies & enterprises sheds jobs. The catalyst for this growth will be business demand for sophisticated computer networks, technological solutions to current business challenges, and a variety of employment services to address complex business issues.
Leisure & hospitality is expected to grow by more than 21,000 jobs between 2006 and 2016. The accommodation & food services industries will provide more than four out of every five jobs gained during the projection period, driven almost entirely by food services & drinking places. Amusement, gambling & recreation industries will contribute much of the rest of the growth seen in leisure & hospitality. The continued growth of tribal casinos and resorts is expected to be a driving force for this supersector.
Although trade, transportation & utilities is expected to add the fourth largest total of new jobs, the supersector’s growth rate is below the state’s projected overall job growth rate of 10.33 percent. Movement in retail trade will provide more than half of the growth, driven mostly by
Oklahoma Employment Outlook 2016
INDUSTRY PROJECTIONS
job gains in general merchandise stores. Wholesale trade industries will contribute 3,900 jobs of the growth, with transportation & warehousing making up the remaining 3,800 jobs. The factor that will most affect this supersector is technological innovation, such as electronic data exchange to help track product information, radio frequency identification that streamlines distribution, and electronic commerce options.
Government employment is expected to grow by more than 15,000 jobs between 2006 and 2016. Local government, excluding education & hospitals is expected to account for 12,550 new jobs during the period. Growth in state government and local government will be driven by public education demands and the increasing need to augment community, health and protective services once provided to a greater degree by the federal government.
Construction will expand at a faster rate than the overall job market, growing by 11,130 jobs, or 15.81 percent, between 2006 and 2016. Although all of its industries will expand over the period, the specialty trade contractors industry is expected to provide a majority of the job growth. Construction projects expected to help drive growth include nursing homes, medical treatment facilities and schools.
Financial activities is expected to expand by nearly 9 percent with a gain of 7,470 jobs for the period. Although all industries are expected to add jobs, credit intermediation & related activities and rental & leasing services will lead the way.
Natural resources & mining will grow by more than 5,600 jobs, or 7.62 percent, during the projection period. Employment gains will be due almost entirely to support activities for mining, an industry that will add more than 4,500 jobs between 2006 and 2016. This growth will be due to Oklahoma’s strong oil and natural gas industry. Nationally, this supersector is expected to shed more than 10,000 jobs over the projection period.
Other services (except government) will add more than 5,500 jobs during the forecast period, a gain of nearly 9 percent. More than 40 percent of the growth will come from the repair & maintenance industry. The only industry losing jobs for the period will be private households.
Information is expected to expand the least between 2006 and 2016, growing by just over 2,000 jobs. Telecommunications, the supersector’s dominant industry, is expected to contribute more than 1,800 jobs.
The only supersector expected to lose jobs over the forecast period is manufacturing, which will contract by 730 jobs between 2006 and 2016. However, this small loss is not representative of the changes taking place within the manufacturing supersector. While a large number of jobs will be lost from industries such as printing & related support activities, other industries, like food manufacturing, will post solid growth between 2006 and 2016. The overall outlook for manufacturing is continuing demand- driven growth coupled with productivity-led employment declines.
I stand by my post:No significant manufacturing, R&D or knowledge based industries.
jerrywall 08-02-2017, 09:42 AM Because you know nothing. Even your own quoted text contradicts you. And says nothing about R&D, even though it's a huge growth industry.
I mean, what do you think "The professional, scientific & technical services and administrative & support services industries will provide all of the supersector’s growth during the period, as management of companies & enterprises sheds jobs. The catalyst for this growth will be business demand for sophisticated computer networks, technological solutions to current business challenges, and a variety of employment services to address complex business issues." means?
Losing 700 manufacturing jobs out of 100k plus in ten years? Nothing. That's market changes.
FighttheGoodFight 08-02-2017, 09:46 AM Here is the BLS report on Oklahoma for 2017: https://www.bls.gov/eag/eag.ok.htm
http://i.imgur.com/Ap35pRv.png
Plutonic Panda 08-11-2017, 01:36 PM Hooray I can actually post something I'm proud to post! Haha
http://amp.koco.com/article/study-ranks-oklahoma-no-1-for-fixing-most-amount-of-old-bad-bridges/11662007
Bellaboo 08-11-2017, 05:09 PM IIRC. the county bridge fix got a jump start from the thousand or so steel girders that were re-purposed from the Crosstown. This probably pushed us to the top.
Bunty 08-13-2017, 12:35 PM Hooray I can actually post something I'm proud to post! Haha
http://amp.koco.com/article/study-ranks-oklahoma-no-1-for-fixing-most-amount-of-old-bad-bridges/11662007
Such stories should not be published. Legislators might use it to justify cutting spending on roads and bridges.
Plutonic Panda 08-14-2017, 05:05 AM Though I'm sure that was more tongue in cheek than anything, I do agree and I wonder how our road surfaces or other areas of infrastructure have fared while our bridges have been fixed.
KayneMo 08-14-2017, 09:23 AM This report is from last summer: https://www.cbre.us/people-and-offices/corporate-offices/oklahoma-city/oklahoma-city-media-center/oklahoma-city-ranks-among-top-markets-for-growth-of-highly-skilled-tech-workers-according-to-cbres-annual-scoring-tech-ta0
Detailed figures: http://news.theregistrysf.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/Tech-Talent-2016-FIGURES.pdf
'Oklahoma City Ranks Among Top Markets for Growth of Highly Skilled Tech Workers'
OKC's tech talent labor pool grew 59% from 2010-15, placing 3rd among small markets (tech labor pool <50,000) behind Charlotte and Nashville, and 5th overall behind Charlotte, Nashville, SF Bay Area, and Baltimore.
OKC produced 3,526 tech degrees from 2010-14, and added 7,010 tech jobs from 2011-15, resulting in a tech brain gain of 3,484 (placing 15th overall on brain gain).
chuck5815 08-14-2017, 02:14 PM This report is from last summer: https://www.cbre.us/people-and-offices/corporate-offices/oklahoma-city/oklahoma-city-media-center/oklahoma-city-ranks-among-top-markets-for-growth-of-highly-skilled-tech-workers-according-to-cbres-annual-scoring-tech-ta0
Detailed figures: http://news.theregistrysf.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/Tech-Talent-2016-FIGURES.pdf
'Oklahoma City Ranks Among Top Markets for Growth of Highly Skilled Tech Workers'
OKC's tech talent labor pool grew 59% from 2010-15, placing 3rd among small markets (tech labor pool <50,000) behind Charlotte and Nashville, and 5th overall behind Charlotte, Nashville, SF Bay Area, and Baltimore.
OKC produced 3,526 tech degrees from 2010-14, and added 7,010 tech jobs from 2011-15, resulting in a tech brain gain of 3,484 (placing 15th overall on brain gain).
Where is dcsooner at? Paging dcsooner to the white courtesy phone.
Plutonic Panda 08-14-2017, 02:48 PM That is great to see!
bchris02 08-14-2017, 08:52 PM OKC's tech talent labor pool grew 59% from 2010-15, placing 3rd among small markets (tech labor pool <50,000) behind Charlotte and Nashville, and 5th overall behind Charlotte, Nashville, SF Bay Area, and Baltimore.
I'm surprised to see Charlotte on this list. Their tech market was abysmal in 2012. Good to see OKC on a list like this. It's definitely a sign of progress.
Ross MacLochness 09-08-2017, 10:35 AM Idk if this is the right place to post this, but I just returned from a couple of trips. Both places I went, I met people who had recently visited OKC. One twentysomething guy from Boston (which is an incredible city) told me he was blown away by OKC and loved it. He said he wanted to come back for a longer vacation. I heard similar things from two other people. It's a really nice thing to hear.
P.s. I was in Denver recently also. Denver has some awesome places and things to do but I'm proud to live in OKC. We may be 'behind' other cities, but we take for granted what we do have which is nice, clean sidewalks, narrow(ish), TWO WAY streets downtown, a variety of unique areas within walking distance, less horrible parking garages and surface lots (very surprising), and a lack of ****ty ****ty ****ty post modern architecture (thank god we avoided such tragedy). Anyway, I felt like I have been negative lately so I wanted to put it out there that while we make lots of mistakes, we are generally going in the right direction and we have a lot to be proud of.
5alive 09-08-2017, 10:37 AM :iagree:
dcsooner 09-08-2017, 12:37 PM Where is dcsooner at? Paging dcsooner to the white courtesy phone.
Hey, I just saw this posting. This is a great news story that reflects the fact that the educational deficit in OKC is being closed and that I am very excited to hear about. I have nothing to say but great job OKC and keep it up.
Plutonic Panda 09-14-2017, 07:27 PM Hate to post negative stuff but here's more:
http://www.normantranscript.com/news/oklahoma-ranked-second-least-happy-state-in-the-nation/article_91b1d38e-86d4-5f6f-bcd5-edb6ca3ef5ea.html
Bunty 09-15-2017, 08:15 PM Hate to post negative stuff but here's more:
http://www.normantranscript.com/news/oklahoma-ranked-second-least-happy-state-in-the-nation/article_91b1d38e-86d4-5f6f-bcd5-edb6ca3ef5ea.html
People who are unhappy about living in Oklahoma should move to a better state, such as Colorado. If you're miserable from making min. wage of $7.25 an hour, you'll get a raise of up to at least $9.30 by moving there. Just avoid the high cost area of Denver.
Plutonic Panda 07-11-2019, 01:59 PM One day Oklahoma is great for business and the next:
https://kfor.com/2019/07/10/cnbc-oklahoma-one-of-the-worst-states-for-business/
dcsooner 07-11-2019, 04:14 PM One day Oklahoma is great for business and the next:
https://kfor.com/2019/07/10/cnbc-oklahoma-one-of-the-worst-states-for-business/
Meant to post this article earlier, but I knew I would get hammered.
BG918 07-11-2019, 06:53 PM Meant to post this article earlier, but I knew I would get hammered.
I think most people know where the shortcomings are with things like education, mental health and lack of a talented workforce. Obviously those things will bring down any ranking against states that perform better. I have a hard time believing Kansas is that significantly better though at #19.
Bunty 07-12-2019, 12:53 AM How did Oklahoma get to 50 in education? Conservatives would say quality of education should not be measured by amount of money thrown at it but rather how great the results were.
Thomas Vu 07-12-2019, 08:09 AM I thought I read a headline the other day saying they ranked 43rd.
Rover 07-12-2019, 08:17 AM How did Oklahoma get to 50 in education? Conservatives would say quality of education should not be measured by amount of money thrown at it but rather how great the results were.
Oklahoma ranks low in education, arts, health, pay levels, insurance coverage... high in incarcerations, divorces, poverty, drug addiction, obesity, teenage marriage.... Oh...high in sports achievements...lol. But we are the most right wing republican state in the country and proud of it. That should tell us something.
GoGators 07-12-2019, 08:59 AM Oklahoma ranks low in education, arts, health, pay levels, insurance coverage... high in incarcerations, divorces, poverty, drug addiction, obesity, teenage marriage.... Oh...high in sports achievements...lol. But we are the most right wing republican state in the country and proud of it. That should tell us something.
If Oklahoma would just pass Medicaid expansion it would help a lot of those things on that list. If we can’t even pick the low hanging fruit like this, forget about tackling those bigger issues. We will remain at the bottom of these lists with the rest of the Bible Belt.
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