Is it me or does it seem strange that MTV has it's annual VMA but they don't show video's anymore. I haven't watched MTV in years but the last I saw of it there wasn't very many videos.

I watched the opening last night and had no idea who any of those people were. MTV is just a sad memory, I'm afraid. I don't think any of the artists who helped launch the channel would be caught dead associating with MTV these days.

I watched the opening last night and had no idea who any of those people were. MTV is just a sad memory, I'm afraid. I don't think any of the artists who helped launch the channel would be caught dead associating with MTV these days.

Oh . . . I dunno . . .
Tom Petty might show up for the party . . . =)
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I just happened to turn it to this when they were handing out best rock video. I guess for some reason they didn't show any rock video, and for an even stranger reason Lorde won. MTV Blows.

proud to say I don't even know what channel MTV is.

I watched the first MTV show and watched it for several years until the type of music they played changed and also when they start doing shows instead of music. I switched to VH1 after that but haven't watched it in a long time either.

MTV made the decision long ago to not grow older with its audience. The comments on here shows that its formula is working. MTV hasn't changed in that it appeals to the demo it strives to reach, you however....

MTV made the decision long ago to not grow older with its audience. The comments on here shows that its formula is working. MTV hasn't changed in that it appeals to the demo it strives to reach, you however....

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NSFW- language but hilarious and true. Also last nights show was boring.

http://youtu.be/9ysyZF-DZFY

From back in the day when the V in MTV stood for Video, when men were men and women were androgynous.
(Anne Lennox's real name was Nostradamusita.)
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Today it's all about the Suge Knights and gunfights. Oy Vey!

The really isn't a purpose for MTV anymore with music videos being available on-demand on the Internet. The days of watching MTV waiting for your favorite song's video to play are over. That's why its transitioned into a reality TV channel.

MTV made the decision long ago to not grow older with its audience. The comments on here shows that its formula is working. MTV hasn't changed in that it appeals to the demo it strives to reach, you however....

Good point. MTV is still popular with the 12-18 year olds of today. They don't care about keeping people who watched it in bygone years. They exist for today's teens.

MTV made the decision long ago to not grow older with its audience. The comments on here shows that its formula is working. MTV hasn't changed in that it appeals to the demo it strives to reach, you however....

Old people griping about MTV is about as cliche as it gets. Long story short...its not meant for you. It's like white people complaining about Telemundo. I really don't watch MTV either, but they obivously have found a successful formula. FWIW MTV hasn't really played music videos in primetime since the late 90's.

As far as the awards show is concerned, it was pretty good. There was tons of teeny bopper dribble but also some quality artists like Sam Smith. Beyonce's performance was probably one of the best live TV performances I've seen in years. And Nicki Minaj's "wardrobe malfunction" was hilarious.

I'm telling you that video explains it all.

I remember as a teen in the early '00s coming home from school watching MTV music videos before my parents got home (MTV was banned in my household).

Good point. MTV is still popular with the 12-18 year olds of today. They don't care about keeping people who watched it in bygone years. They exist for today's teens.

Plus . . . They, the target demographic, have all the awesome skills to hack into the Money Tree beginning at its root or at least have access to the falling leaves. They don't care about "talent" or "artistic integrity" unless some of that happens to be involved in the Fad du Jour. It's like me and Hula Hoops/Duncan Yo-Yos. Both of which predated MTV. And Frisbees. And Friggin' Scooby Doo which the the next to the last death knell of upcoming human consciousness prior to Teletubbies. Get the Phuque Offin' My Virtual Lawn, Dadnabit . . .=)

Plus . . . They, the target demographic, have all the awesome skills to hack into the Money Tree beginning at its root or at least have access to the falling leaves. They don't care about "talent" or "artistic integrity" unless some of that happens to be involved in the Fad du Jour. It's like me and Hula Hoops/Duncan Yo-Yos. Both of which predated MTV. And Frisbees. And Friggin' Scooby Doo which was the next to the last death knell of upcoming human consciousness prior to Teletubbies. Get the Phuque Offin' My Virtual Lawn, Dadnabit . . .=)

To put things into perspective, Back in the Early Oughts (00's). . . In a previous life . . . When I was a child . . .
There was this . . .
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That and Weird Al Yankovic.
On MTV. =)

Sorry . . . Didn't mean to "Quote Myself" . . .
Too many posts . . . =)

"Historical Perspective????!!! Are you kidding me? I'm a Doctor, not a Scriptwriter of Sociology. =)

Old people griping about MTV is about as cliche as it gets. Long story short...its not meant for you. It's like white people complaining about Telemundo. I really don't watch MTV either, but they obivously have found a successful formula. FWIW MTV hasn't really played music videos in primetime since the late 90's.

As far as the awards show is concerned, it was pretty good. There was tons of teeny bopper dribble but also some quality artists like Sam Smith. Beyonce's performance was probably one of the best live TV performances I've seen in years. And Nicki Minaj's "wardrobe malfunction" was hilarious.

And this is exactly why MTV has lost all relevance within and without my Circles of Concern and Influence. =)
(except, of course, to make fun of it. and all the rest of current "culture". =)

(btw: please be advised: the use of the phrase Circles of Concern and Influence, within this immediate context, means about as much as a "wardrobe malfunction" on a Video Awards Presentation Ceremony and has no connection whatsoever with anything emanating from The Mormon Cult. Hope Suge is feelin' better. Sort of . . . well, let me reconsider that remark . . . yes. I hope he's feeling better.)

Suggestion: Get a Patent or at least a Copyright on "Teeny Bopper Dribble". There is a huge market for it.
Also: Alt 130 adds that special touché to cliché . . . yet . . . you knew that. =)

(btw2: I like Telemundo. It helps me remember how much Spanish I forgot during the formal educational process in the public schools. most of the teachers were too involved with fighting off pterodactyl attacks on the playground to provide proper linguistic skills for the New World Order. =)

(btw3: You said "griping" . . . Are you sure you hear griping? . . . or it it simply an echo from your future as an adult? =)

I find this thread title slightly ironic/emblematic.

MTV needs to bring back a legit Road Rules

MTV needs to bring back a legit Road Rules

Replete with a Candy Stand by the Side of the Highway?

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So . . . Is this the one that twisted Hanna Montana's Mind?
(nah . . . she warn't even borned then and Billy Joe was just another guy with a mullet looking for fame)

eMpTyV is dead if you're looking for music

When it was the only way to hear (and see) new/different artists/music, it was awesome and everyone knew that it was Mtv, music first - now, anyone with a phone or computer can hear whatever they want from wherever they want when they want so today, it's just mTV, just another TV channel among hundreds available

Apparently, MTV didn't pay attention to their own future . . .
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Did "Days of Future Past" (by the Moody Blues ever make MTV? =)

Someone must have blinded them with science.
That's the only logical explanation . . .
Ain't it? If, that is, you are older than 12? At least mentally . . . =)

MTV Video Awards . . . geez . . . what a joke . . .
(and people eat it up)

The really isn't a purpose for MTV anymore with music videos being available on-demand on the Internet. The days of watching MTV waiting for your favorite song's video to play are over. That's why its transitioned into a reality TV channel.

There may not be a "purpose" for MTV anymore . . .
Yet . . . Maybe there is a porpoise? Just over the event horizon?
Something involving . . . advertising?
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Before the next MTV Video Music Awards . . ?

Sorry . . . I had my mind influenced by Jerry Lewis as The Nutty Professor and Fred MacMurray in Flubber.
(google either of those to explore the depths of pre-MTV entertainment)

Remember those Sally Struthers ads for starving kids and animals in Africa?
I see some Miley Cyrus ads for homeless artists in LA hoving into our collective consciousness.
Don't you? No? She just won some "Best Of" thing . . . =)

Plus too much Jan Murray, Don Rickles, Alan King and Henny Youngman.
(post Romper Room, pre-Teletubbies) =)

Hope Suge is feelin' better.

Speaking of...did you see some of the people who were at Chris Brown's party when Suge got shot? Most were folks you'd expect, but the list also included Derek Hough and Richard Simmons. WTH? LOL

From the always excellent Lefsetz Letters - http://lefsetz.com/wordpress/index.php/archives/2014/08/25/video-music-awards/

VIDEO MUSIC AWARDS

What channel is MTV again?

And what kind of crazy ****ed up world do we live in where an unscripted precursor is the height of the show. That’s right, the shooting of Suge Knight was this year’s memorable moment, and that’s all the VMAs are about these days, trying to create lasting impressions, which this year’s telecast failed to do.

How do I know? I scanned the web!

So we’ve got a self-congratulatory music industry trumpeting this faux show because of its reach and we’ve got an advertising industry fascinated because they see these young nitwits as their next audience and we’ve got self-satisfied oldsters refusing to watch because they’ve got no idea who these people are and want to feel superior.

Welcome to 2014, where self-promotion is paramount and music is second to your brand.

How did we get here?

Ironically, via MTV itself. Which proved that music is second to money. Which took fly by night acts and blew them up to icons so big that they can still tour sheds today.

But that was 1982. Long before videos cost a million bucks in the nineties and then the whole paradigm was eviscerated by the web. Yup, a couple of years back Adam Levine excoriates the channel, now he plays it, because after all, who can turn down that exposure?

That’s the avenue you take when you’ve got little talent, when you don’t record memorable music. You call out the usual suspects, the hacks in the media world, and get them to trump up your evanescent product to the point where you feel it’s significant, even though most of us shrug our shoulders and move on.

At least credit Sam Smith for concocting a good song. But the point is how do you reach people not in the echo chamber? Oldsters who prefer CDs to YouTube, who don’t search SoundCloud and find it too hard to use Spotify.

We’re complicit in the decline of the music industry. All the makers and sellers. Because we haven’t come up with a way to showcase our wares. So MTV does it for us, poorly, and Grammy ratings improve because everybody at home has no idea what to listen to. It’s kind of like Twitter. Its adherents and the press keep telling us it’s changing the world, but we never go there. Hell, I follow my feed religiously but almost no one was commenting on the VMAs last night, I guess there’s no nexus between who I read and those who watch the VMAs.

So where do we start?

Always with the acts.

Give these VMA stars credit, they create catchy tunes. Not Beyonce, who self-indulgently tributed herself with sixteen minutes of music that didn’t break through and few want to hear, but the Ariana Grande and Iggy Azaleas of this world. How come oldsters can’t write catchy tunes? How come Americana acts can’t write catchy tunes? Have we lost the formula? Do only Max Martin and Dr. Luke have the secret sauce?

Because it’s damn hard to be ubiquitous with a product that does not deserve the acclaim.

And today, even though classic rock sustains, almost nothing else does. Check the most played tracks on Spotify, you’ll find Led Zeppelin, but not PSY. And Led Zeppelin didn’t break through until “Whole Lotta Love.” And sure, “Stairway To Heaven” was not an AM single, but it was unavoidable on FM, which was coming to dominate.

The youngsters know how to play the game.

But they’ve got nothing to say, other than pay attention to me, watch me dance, look at my bank account, wanna have sex with me? You can’t!

The oldsters want to say something but they’ve got bad tunes and bad voices and they’re so demanding of our attention that we ignore them. The VMAs of the hipsters is a feature in the “New York Times Magazine,” which just goes to prove you’re a wanker who appeals to the head not the heart, and deserve little attention.

Yes, we need a new awards show. A Mercury Prize for America.

But who are we gonna give it to?

The problem is us. We refuse to acknowledge that the basics are always key. That first and foremost music is something you listen to, and if it doesn’t hook you quickly, it won’t hook you at all, especially in these overwhelming times.

Come on, how many times did you have to hear “I Want To Hold Your Hand”?

And most of the acts whose music you had to hear multiple times had hits to entice us first.

But the truth is I’m not optimistic. Because music lost its hold on the culture decades ago, it’s not where you go for honesty and truth. I get a bigger hit opening my browser than going to the iTunes Store. We’ve decimated our credibility. Once upon a time music was hot, now it’s meh.

Yup, YouTube features young stars with credibility, but on MTV we get the fawning Sway.

Radiohead entered our consciousness via “Creep,” yet has not recorded anything that memorable for the masses since.

Which is why EDM could be our savior. Because the mainstream doesn’t care about it, the oldsters don’t get it and the deejays and attendees don’t need our attention.

Yup, it may be driven by drugs, but no one in that world is saying LOOK AT ME!

So, so long 2014 VMAs… The run-up was more memorable than the show.

And so long the seventies, when breaking through on radio meant everybody in the demo knew you.

And so long to the eighties, when we were all watching MTV.

Hello to the twenty first century. Where we’re overloaded with information and just because you’re yelling that does not mean we hear you.

We live in a world where most is ignored but that which is picked up is spread like wildfire.

You know why you don’t know Iggy Azalea, never mind Ariana Grande?

BECAUSE THEY’RE JUST NOT GOOD ENOUGH!

Kid music for kids.

But it used to be different…

If placed in proper historical perspective . . .
This tune said something.
From the Daze of Yore
When MTV (the V, in which, meant Video instead of Vacuous)
Meant Business.
Or . . . At least I think it did
I'm not sure whut it said
On account of it's old.
As am I. =)

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Is it Live? . . . Or Is IT Memorex? =)

Iggy Azalea and Ariana Grande are well known if you are part of the MTV demographic.

Also, every generation complains about the next generation's music. As an '00s teen and now approaching 30, I slowly am liking less and less of the stuff that comes on KJ 103. Most people my age haven't liked it for quite some time now.

I'm an 80s teen that loves new music.

I'm a '60s Teen wondering why MTV don't have no Celtic or Roots Music Channel.
Especially Old New Age Electronica.
I suppose I Should Get Sirius . . .
But I take my Satellite Radio
like I observe the actual stars at night:
Too much light interference
To matter. =)

Axe dis guy
He'll tell ya . . .
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Is it me or does it seem strange that MTV has it's annual VMA but they don't show video's anymore. I haven't watched MTV in years but the last I saw of it there wasn't very many videos.

Try the MTVU channel.

Try the MTVU channel.

Or Palladia or VH1 Soul or MTV2 or MTV Hits or MTV Jams.

NSFW- language but hilarious and true. Also last nights show was boring.

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I'm telling you that video explains it all.

That video makes a really good point at 2:10. Even if MTV went back to showing music videos all day, it would just be current pop and hip-hop hits. Then the complaint would shift slightly from "MTV never plays videos anymore" to "MTV never plays (the tired old videos I grew up with) anymore."

Or Palladia or VH1 Soul or MTV2 or MTV Hits or MTV Jams.
Apparently, the nearly extinct species of True, Unadulterated, MTV Fans still exists in the wild.
Despite Global Warming . . . And approximately 100K elephants being slain around the world. =)

The first person who makes an allusion to "No True Scotsman" or "This is not a pipe" gets a pie in the face c/o Soupy Sales.

Edited to Add: That kid who is in charge of MTV would seem to be pretty smart if he didn't come across as such a dickwad.
He makes several good points. Yet, still manages NOT to explain the Sub Honey Boo-Boo Kwality of the EyeTurds that have taken the place of the vids on MTV. I suppose that it is simply the inexorable movement of Amerkun Culchar in the direction of the Future presaged by Idiocracy (the Video Version of 1984 for The Millennials =)

I'd wager that a lot of people were PO'd at Gutenberg, too.
During a previous Cultural Shift. =)

And don't even get me started on The Traction Plow and the Rise of The Priest King Class. =)

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Historians and Political Scientists Speculate that the decline began at about this point in time . . .
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Although some Sociologists, Art Majors, and Social Engineers are convinced of an earlier date . . .
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(in fact, I used binoculars to observe this performance at an ancient entertainment venue known as the Lloyd Noble Arena)

please be advised that MTV had nothing, whatsoever to do with the travesty known as Steve Martin.
it goes back to SNL and actual entertainment involving carbon footprints and fossil fuels and whatnots.

for some reason all of this has me questioning the expenditure of $45 Million by Jeff Bezos to put a clock 500 feet beneath a "mountain" in West Texas . . . =) well . . . at least the guys on the digging crew are getting paid and spreading the wealth . . . =)