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Rover
06-24-2024, 05:04 PM
Is there any way you can ever hope to shop, for real, in such a development?

Not sure what you are asking. There will be quite a bit of retail shopping there.

Dob Hooligan
06-24-2024, 05:28 PM
Not sure what you are asking. There will be quite a bit of retail shopping there.

(In my Mack Brown voice) "Let me answer that for Chris."

I'm guessing the inference is that the Tempur-Pedic snark indicates the poster suggests that any business that advertises in mass media is too low brow for this "High Class-Practically Rodeo Drive East" development.

OkieBerto
06-25-2024, 10:07 AM
The GM at the Lively Hotel posted a photo of their crew at Lively Beerworks and discussed a partnership. Seems like a good idea.

Pete
07-01-2024, 07:57 AM
Looks like they have now started building out Williams Sonoma and Blue Mercury. Roads are going in. Both Tommy Bahama store and restaurant are moving fast.

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aDark
07-01-2024, 08:51 AM
The GM at the Lively Hotel posted a photo of their crew at Lively Beerworks and discussed a partnership. Seems like a good idea.

Love to see this!

Pete
07-07-2024, 08:39 AM
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Brett
07-07-2024, 05:55 PM
Crossings Mayfair is a smart collaboration that is within walking distance for future tenants of the OAK apartment complex.

Pete
07-09-2024, 08:24 AM
Some renderings of the apartments. They haven't released pricing as of yet but are starting to conduct tours.

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Mballard85
07-09-2024, 10:20 AM
Those look really nice, exactly what you'd expect for this area.

Pete
07-09-2024, 02:00 PM
First move-ins are scheduled for late August.

This whole development is going to fly from here on in, as they are working furiously to get many of the businesses open ASAP and most by this fall.

traxx
07-09-2024, 03:56 PM
Some renderings of the apartments. They haven't released pricing as of yet but are starting to conduct tours.

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You say these are renderings? They look like photos. I wonder what software they use.

bison34
07-09-2024, 04:03 PM
You say these are renderings? They look like photos. I wonder what software they use.

They have virtual tours of apartments on their website.

Pete
07-09-2024, 04:24 PM
BTW, the OAK apartments are being developed by Greystar, the largest owner of multi-family housing in the U.S. They have one other Oklahoma project, south of Highway 9 in Norman (The Ave).

Greystar is owned by Bob Faith, a multi-billionaire who went to OU. We were good friends in college.

Faith is the guy who has been trying to put together the Campus Corner megaproject, although I don't know where that stands.

coatesindc
07-10-2024, 08:37 AM
Pete - I did not know that Greystar was the developer/sponsor here; I thought they'd just be providing property management services as they do for many other apartment communities in the metro.

For those that don't know, Bob Faith is absolute royalty in the world of institutional-grade apartments. Few folks locally know that he hails from Oklahoma and is an OU alum. He co-founded Starwood Capital in the early 1990s with Barry Sternlicht (real estate private equity royalty) before going their separate ways with Faith focusing on apartments with Greystar and Sternlicht continuing on with Starwood (which is a private equity mega player).

As an OU alum myself, I have always worried that any rework of campus corner wouldn't be properly executed / fall short of its potential with local players...that won't be the case if Bob Faith and Greystar are at the helm.

Pete
07-10-2024, 08:59 AM
Faith is worth $5.8 billion according to Forbes:

https://www.forbes.com/profile/robert-faith/

Pete
07-10-2024, 09:59 AM
Correction: Mintwood is the developer of the OAK apartments; Greystar is the manager.

April in the Plaza
07-11-2024, 05:56 PM
Pre-leasing has started. Pricing doesn’t look too bad given the amenities.

Pete
07-15-2024, 07:54 AM
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ditm4567
07-16-2024, 06:58 AM
https://kfor.com/news/local/okc-luxury-apartments-opening-amid-affordable-housing-crisis/?utm_campaign=socialflow&utm_source=T.co&utm_medium=referral

Yes, let’s drag the new development before it even opens.

Rover
07-16-2024, 08:32 AM
https://kfor.com/news/local/okc-luxury-apartments-opening-amid-affordable-housing-crisis/?utm_campaign=socialflow&utm_source=T.co&utm_medium=referral

Yes, let’s drag the new development before it even opens.

Its lazy journalism to unite the two issues this way. Serious work is being done in this city to figure out how to address affordable housing. There is also good and serious investment being made to provide luxury housing and upscale neighborhoods which are normal in a capitalistic society. Both are necessary and advisable. When the issues are conflated it’s like writing about a chess match and baseball game like they are the same. Let’s be serious about affordable housing.

Pete
07-16-2024, 08:57 AM
There are two very affordable apartment complexes to the immediate south.

David
07-16-2024, 09:02 AM
https://kfor.com/news/local/okc-luxury-apartments-opening-amid-affordable-housing-crisis/?utm_campaign=socialflow&utm_source=T.co&utm_medium=referral

Yes, let’s drag the new development before it even opens.

What a silly article. Supply and demand, new 'luxury' apartments means less competition for lower end apartments for people that can afford better and the increase in supply will act to reduce prices in the metro overall. This is being tested quite aggressively in Austin at the moment and it is working.

OkieBerto
07-16-2024, 09:38 AM
This is the problem with modern journalism. They could have spoken about the other apartments available in the area that are much more affordable. They do not want to help those who need affordable housing with this story. They wish to enrage them. There are a few affordable housing spots that are ready and available right now that are brand new. You will not get the same amenities, but you will have a great new home that won't cost you an arm and a leg. This story is an example of why I do not watch local news.

warreng88
07-16-2024, 10:04 AM
Just go west a mile and tiffany and the Warwick are right there. Warwick is around $1.50/sf. Tiffany retro is $1.60-$2.00/sf.

https://www.thewarwick-apartments.com/floorplans

https://www.tiffanyretro.com/application/

Oski
07-16-2024, 10:09 AM
I understand that affordable housing is a difficult issue and always will be, but people can take proactive steps to address it instead of waiting for the government or developers with big hearts. I used to live in San Francisco and Los Angeles, where getting a house was a headache. Then I moved to Oklahoma City, and I love it. My house, which would be considered luxurious there, costs as much as a tiny house in San Francisco or Los Angeles, and houses that cost between $1-2 million there look like "affordable houses" in OKC. Moving to a place where you can afford a comfortable life can help you alleviate this pain more quickly. I know some people might say they can't leave their relatives, jobs, etc., but I see those as sacrifices. Some people end up enjoying the new experience and lifestyle, like I do. I don't see the point of demanding affordable housing in sought-after locations in any city.

Pete
07-16-2024, 10:14 AM
There is plenty of affordable housing in OKC. It's just not newly constructed, in the middle of expensive shopping and dining, and has an elaborate pool and clubhouse.

It's like complaining about the lack of cheap housing in Nichols Hills. Just go a couple of miles to the area surrounding Britton and there is tons. Same is true about virtually anywhere in OKC.

Celebrator
07-16-2024, 11:17 AM
There is plenty of affordable housing in OKC. It's just not newly constructed, in the middle of expensive shopping and dining, and has an elaborate pool and clubhouse.

It's like complaining about the lack of cheap housing in Nichols Hills. Just go a couple of miles to the area surrounding Britton and there is tons. Same is true about virtually anywhere in OKC.

Yeah, that story perked my ears last night as it was running in the background at my house, and my reaction was exactly the same as yours and many others upthread! Quite biased and shortsighted, I thought. That was John Hays on that story (he's new to this market).

jn1780
07-16-2024, 12:50 PM
What a silly article. Supply and demand, new 'luxury' apartments means less competition for lower end apartments for people that can afford better and the increase in supply will act to reduce prices in the metro overall. This is being tested quite aggressively in Austin at the moment and it is working.

Yep

If they wanted to take this angle with a development, they should have picked on the Boardwalk development or should I say proposal at this point. Its questionable if the demand is there for it. OAK will have zero issues filling units in my opinion.

Pete
07-16-2024, 12:55 PM
If I didn't own a house, OAK is one of the first apartment complexes I would consider.

Before long there will be a bunch more restaurants and bars announced, most of them completely new to the market.

This will have great walkability and the BRT stop is right there.


It's hard to believe this is almost ready to open; looking like October for the first wave. We've been covering this development for over 10 years now.

And for all the neg-heads that take every opportunity to complain about developments in OKC being scaled back and ending in disappointment, this is the original plan from back in 2014:

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dankrutka
07-16-2024, 12:58 PM
^^^
I would never have considered a development like this because I prefer to live without a car, but the BRT stop makes it much more viable. I hope residents view it as an amenity.

Pete
07-16-2024, 01:03 PM
I know because I walk this area extensively, but Target (with a full grocery) is only an easy mile away, as is Aldi.

And really, with the huge amount of reasonable delivery options, having a grocer within walking distance is no longer an issue. In fact, most nicer complexes have personnel on staff to manage deliveries for you.

I tend to go to Sam's Club quite often but the honest truth is that it would be far more efficient for me just to pay their $8 delivery fee and get my bulk items periodically.

FighttheGoodFight
07-16-2024, 01:03 PM
They sure came a long way from "likely Starbucks"

ManAboutTown
07-16-2024, 01:41 PM
You have done a great job covering this development for the past decade, Pete. I remember first reading about it thinking it would be hard to bring to fruition, but these guys have done it.

I will be interested in seeing how quickly the $3,500/month apartments are leased up. That's pricey!

bamarsha
07-16-2024, 04:30 PM
You have done a great job covering this development for the past decade, Pete. I remember first reading about it thinking it would be hard to bring to fruition, but these guys have done it.

I will be interested in seeing how quickly the $3,500/month apartments are leased up. That's pricey!

1) Agreed, Pete is awesome at this job

2) $3,500 isn't rent, it dang near a mortgage at Gaillardia!!!

BoulderSooner
07-16-2024, 04:51 PM
1) Agreed, Pete is awesome at this job

2) $3,500 isn't rent, it dang near a mortgage at Gaillardia!!!

cheapest home for sale in Gaillardia is 1.1 mil .. that would be more like a 6,000 dollar a month mortgage ..

Brady
07-16-2024, 07:10 PM
This has come a long way, and will only get better. so excited for what it means for OKC, and for the areas surrounding OAK. Can't wait for the announcements of all the new shops and restaurants.
After seeing what the development is modeled after, it is super exciting to see it come to fruition.

Teo9969
07-16-2024, 08:57 PM
They sure came a long way from "likely Starbucks"

hahaha!!!! It is absolutely worth going back and reading the first 50 posts of this thread.

Oski
07-17-2024, 08:31 AM
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That's why I'd rather see land sit empty until someone with vision and deep pockets can develop it, instead of just covering the grass/dirt with whatever.

bamarsha
07-17-2024, 11:32 AM
cheapest home for sale in Gaillardia is 1.1 mil .. that would be more like a 6,000 dollar a month mortgage ..

I still do not know why my responses to this are getting deleted, but this comment itself isn't getting deleted... my first was in the exact same style with math included.

BoulderSooner
07-17-2024, 11:41 AM
That's why I'd rather see land sit empty until someone with vision and deep pockets can develop it, instead of just covering the grass/dirt with whatever.

this is a really good point ... what a waste of a site if it was just a starbucks in between to retail buildings ... (restaurant or not)

Pete
07-21-2024, 09:33 AM
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gaeddert2
07-21-2024, 04:36 PM
OAK Construction Update July 21 2024
https://youtu.be/CCWPmQ-hM2I

Bowser214
07-21-2024, 05:13 PM
So there's going to be surface level parking for now where the office tower is planned? Am I seeing that correctly?

Pete
07-21-2024, 05:18 PM
So there's going to be surface level parking for now where the office tower is planned? Am I seeing that correctly?

Temporarily. That's always been the plan.

Laramie
07-21-2024, 05:36 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCWPmQ-hM2I

The OAK features more than $2 million on the art which includes the sculpture "Cloud Trees" and "Cloud Puncher," seen in this video.--credit Tony Gaeddert.

Bellaboo
07-21-2024, 09:44 PM
The Citizen Tower tour by Tony Gaeddert is one of the best I've seen.

Take a look if your haven't already.

mgharfeh
07-22-2024, 06:20 AM
is there a concept going in that pavilion or will it just be a common area?

Pete
07-22-2024, 07:06 AM
is there a concept going in that pavilion or will it just be a common area?

That hasn't been identified as of yet.

foodiefan
07-22-2024, 09:32 AM
. . . ETA for Williams-Sonoma?

Pete
07-22-2024, 09:33 AM
. . . ETA for Williams-Somona?

I believe October.

CaptDave
07-22-2024, 10:50 AM
I can only hope for all future development in the OKC metro to be on this level. Not realistic probably, but something that will hopefully become the norm much like the redevelopment of First National set a new benchmark.

Pete
07-22-2024, 10:57 AM
They are already doing a fantastic job with the landscaping.

It's hard to appreciate it until you see it up close and personal, but they have already planted dozens of big trees and hundreds of shrubs.

This development is going to be so nice; will be unlike anything else in the state.

soonerguru
07-22-2024, 03:13 PM
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It's crazy that these beautiful pics were taken on the 21st of July in Oklahoma City. Look how beautiful and green everything is!

foodiefan
07-22-2024, 05:33 PM
I believe October.

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fortpatches
07-23-2024, 10:00 AM
They are already doing a fantastic job with the landscaping.

It's hard to appreciate it until you see it up close and personal, but they have already planted dozens of big trees and hundreds of shrubs.

This development is going to be so nice; will be unlike anything else in the state.

It's great they are planting such large trees in this development. It looks great.
And it looks like they still have about a dozen more on location that just havent been planted yet!

Pete
07-23-2024, 10:01 AM
They are really just getting started with the landscaping.

It's hard to believe they are going to have businesses open in just 3 months.

Brett
07-27-2024, 12:07 PM
The metal sculpture that is located at the northeast corner of Capital Grill has been unveiled. It is of an oak twig with leaves and an acorn much like the logo that is shown in the above video.

Pete
07-27-2024, 01:09 PM
The metal sculpture that is located at the northeast corner of Capital Grill has been unveiled. It is of an oak twig with leaves and an acorn much like the logo that is shown in the above video.

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07-27-2024, 02:16 PM
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warreng88
07-31-2024, 02:20 PM
Not sure if it was posted or not, but looking at the website and the "Find your home" section, they all say available September 30th. Just a few months away.