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Pete 05-20-2023, 09:05 AM http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/oak052023a.jpg chssooner 05-20-2023, 10:03 AM Man, they mean business! Love the progress shots, Pete! barrettd 05-20-2023, 01:08 PM Yes, love when you post these progress pics of this project! And it's moving quickly enough, it seems, that you are able to capture frequent updates with noticeable progress. Pete 05-20-2023, 01:12 PM Interestingly, they haven't even filed building permit applications for Arhaus, RH or Capital Grille. No idea when those will start but probably not until the end of the year at the earliest. I suspect they want to get the apartments, garage and hotel completely framed out before work starts on those other buildings. HOT ROD 05-21-2023, 01:18 AM ya, makes sense since those are the biggest buildings besides the office tower. shouldn't take long to build those 3 once the bigger buildings are topped out, then everything opens at the same time. Rover 05-21-2023, 10:02 AM Pete, do you know the demo plans for the rest of the old atrium office building? It would seem that from an access position it would be easier to build that site out prior to building the site immediately east of there (south of what is being built). Pete 05-21-2023, 10:29 AM Pete, do you know the demo plans for the rest of the old atrium office building? It would seem that from an access position it would be easier to build that site out prior to building the site immediately east of there (south of what is being built). They'll raze it when they start on future phases. It's being used for construction offices and will be used for leasing as well: retail space, apartments and hotel events. Pete 05-26-2023, 09:57 AM I live in the neighborhood south of Oak and yesterday on my daily walking loop I counted 15 dumpsters, which means 15 flip houses in progress. 15! That's a ton. There have been a couple of tear-downs and rebuilds but I expect a bunch more. Already a lot of Air BnBs with more to come. Pete 05-27-2023, 07:36 AM http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/oak052623a.jpg http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/oak052623b.jpg http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/oak052623c.jpg G.Walker 05-28-2023, 09:56 AM Went to Penn Square & Cheesecake Factory yesterday, and this looks much bigger in person, the massing against the expressway is crazy. Since the expressway is elevated right there, it looks bigger than it really is, height wise. Especially from Penn Square parking lot, as the mall sits lower. Pete 05-31-2023, 10:46 AM http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/oak053123a.jpg Pete 06-12-2023, 07:48 AM In the last photo, you can see the Arhaus foundation just east of the apartments. RH Gallery and Capital Grille will be starting soon. http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/oak061123a.jpg http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/oak061123b.jpg http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/oak061123c.jpg http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/oak061123d.jpg David 06-12-2023, 09:12 AM The impact this has on the local skyline is quite a bit more than I was expecting, and the hotel isn't even done yet. How many floors to go before it tops out? Urbanized 06-12-2023, 09:12 AM Drove past it yesterday for the first time in a few weeks and it was indeed impressive how much it has already changed the feel of that intersection and strip of Northwest Expressway. Pete 06-12-2023, 09:15 AM It's going to be such a big deal. They are having good success adding more national retail and restaurants, most new to the market. Should be more announcements soon. Pete 06-17-2023, 07:49 AM http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/oak061623a.jpg http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/oak061623b.jpg http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/oak061623c.jpg Laramie 06-17-2023, 11:12 AM Nice development and pics, Pete, thanks for your continuous updates. Attracting good high paying jobs to our city and making home ownership, leasing and renting affordable will make OKC an attractive place to live and raise a family. IMO were are a very inclusive city. Out commitment to investing in our schools thru bonds and higher teacher pay will pave the way in the holistic education of our children. All of this ties in with our Quality of Life goals and objectives. Making our city more cleaner with code enforcement will help attract more business and corporate investment in our city. Pete 06-18-2023, 06:45 AM OKC to get one of first new concept RH Gallery stores (https://www.okctalk.com/content.php?r=961-OKC-to-get-one-of-first-new-concept-RH-Gallery-stores) Construction is moving quickly on the Oak project at NW Expressway and Penn. http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/rh061623b.jpg In addition to the apartments, parking structure, hotel, and street improvements, work is set to start on 3 large new-to-market businesses: RH Gallery (formerly Restoration Hardware), Arhaus, and Capital Grille. Final plans have been submitted for all three and they show the new RH Gallery will not only include a glass-enclosed rooftop restaurant with large outdoor spaces but that it will be one of the first of the new, sleeker RH Gallery concept stores. The design of the 3-level store is more modern as RH Gallery plans to remodel all of its 70 stores nationwide. Oklahoma’s first Capital Grille will feature a large patio facing south. Upscale furniture and decor store Arhaus will also start soon on a 2-story store. More announcements will be coming soon for additional new-to-market retailers and restaurants as the entire development continues to take shape, with a park-like common area to be surrounded by new businesses with several patios. Future phases should include an office building, a food hall featuring local eateries, and a luxury cinema. The Oak development group also recently acquired the Red Carpet carwash property. The carwash continues to operate as the developers contemplate future plans. http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/rh061623c.jpg http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/rh061623e.jpg http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/oak061623x.jpg http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/oak061623c.jpg http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/capital061623a.jpg http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/arhaus061623a.jpg http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/oak061623a.jpg http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/oak061623b.jpg http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/oak061623xx.jpg http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/oak061623xxx.jpg David 06-18-2023, 08:25 AM It's wild to think that as big of an impact this is having on the local skyline, we haven't even seen the real impact since the south building hasn't started yet. Pete 06-18-2023, 09:55 AM Walking through my neighborhood this morning (south and west of Oak) I stopped to chat with a guy I see occasionally and he casually mentioned he is getting non-stop calls from people wanting to buy his house. He lives a couple blocks west and a block south of Oak. I mentioned elsewhere, there are at least 15 dumpsters (almost certainly flips) in the area between 39th & 50th and Penn & May. zefferoni 06-19-2023, 09:05 AM This development looks great driving on I44 looking west (where all the semis crash when it rains). The building is framed right between the mall and Penn Place. Pete 06-24-2023, 10:56 AM http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/oak062423a.jpg http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/oak062423b.jpg Plutonic Panda 06-24-2023, 11:32 AM Are we looking at a fall 2024 completion date? Pete 06-24-2023, 01:59 PM Are we looking at a fall 2024 completion date? I believe so. Pete 06-26-2023, 10:16 AM I walked by there today and the signs say "Summer 2024". They are moving fast but still have a ton of work, so it will be a race to be open that soon. I'm sure Arhaus, RH Gallery and Capital Grille all want to be open before the 2024 holidays. Plutonic Panda 06-26-2023, 02:42 PM That’ll be nice. Christmas time in OKC next year will be pretty exciting as a lot of these big projects will be finished and who knows what’ll be announced by then. Mountaingoat 06-27-2023, 09:31 PM Once they are done with OAK, maybe someone could talk them into a major redevelopment of Shepherd Mall! :) soonerguru 06-27-2023, 10:00 PM Once they are done with OAK, maybe someone could talk them into a major redevelopment of Shepherd Mall! :) This has been a dream of mine for a decade, for real. The Shepherd Mall location is a sleeping giant. It would be the most amazing, transformational multi-use location in the state if its redevelopment were executed skillfully. A true multi-use urban development with housing, retail, restaurants, office and other space such as education. It is an absolutely massive footprint in the central area of the city that is growing rapidly. It is a major potential catalyst to make OKC a next-level city and nothing to joke about at all, as I don't think you are doing here. Also, once OAK is mostly done, it makes the redevelopment of the Shepherd Mall footprint all the more viable. Teo9969 06-27-2023, 10:54 PM This has been a dream of mine for a decade, for real. The Shepherd Mall location is a sleeping giant. It would be the most amazing, transformational multi-use location in the state if its redevelopment were executed skillfully. A true multi-use urban development with housing, retail, restaurants, office and other space such as education. It is an absolutely massive footprint in the central area of the city that is growing rapidly. It is a major potential catalyst to make OKC a next-level city and nothing to joke about at all, as I don't think you are doing here. Also, once OAK is mostly done, it makes the redevelopment of the Shepherd Mall footprint all the more viable. I think Belle Isle + Penn Square fits that mold a bit better, but I bet if we compared addresses, we'd find the cause for our positions ;) Teo9969 06-27-2023, 11:00 PM I walked by there today and the signs say "Summer 2024". They are moving fast but still have a ton of work, so it will be a race to be open that soon. I'm sure Arhaus, RH Gallery and Capital Grille all want to be open before the 2024 holidays. They could have major finish work left for the hotel and apartments and still open the other 3 if they have the garage and common area complete. Looks like they're gearing up for foundations on those 3 at any rate. I'd think those are 6-9 month projects given their much more approachable size and it looks like structural framing will be complete by end of July on everything that's already started. soonerguru 06-27-2023, 11:04 PM I think Belle Isle + Penn Square fits that mold a bit better, but I bet if we compared addresses, we'd find the cause for our positions ;) I'm not sure you are understanding my point. Unspoken, but I'm already assuming improvement with Belle Isle and Penn Square, so we agree on that. But, those are already largely successful in their current states. Shepherd Mall is not. It's a slightly better version of Crossroads because it has already adapted to its post-mall state. Shepherd Mall takes up a huge footprint in the central city. Massive. And, it is underutilized. Think of the land area that it occupies. It's insane. At least Penn Square and Belle Isle largely make sense for the land they take up. Shepherd Mall is a distressed, if currently basically utilized, facility. It could be and would be so much more with a major residential / retail development. I'm thinking 2/3 residential to retail and mixed use. We have a housing shortage and Shepherd Mall is adjacent to some of the hottest real estate markets in the entire city. Admittedly it would take a genius developer, but OKC is missing a huge opportunity here by not moving this along. Rover 06-28-2023, 09:52 PM This has been a dream of mine for a decade, for real. The Shepherd Mall location is a sleeping giant. It would be the most amazing, transformational multi-use location in the state if its redevelopment were executed skillfully. A true multi-use urban development with housing, retail, restaurants, office and other space such as education. It is an absolutely massive footprint in the central area of the city that is growing rapidly. It is a major potential catalyst to make OKC a next-level city and nothing to joke about at all, as I don't think you are doing here. Also, once OAK is mostly done, it makes the redevelopment of the Shepherd Mall footprint all the more viable. It will be a very long time before the area has the same potential as NW Expressways/ I-44 area does. Much more money in the neighboring areas of Belle Isle, Nichols Hills, Glenbrook. Plus, Shephard Mall area is pretty transportation isolated. Much more likely SM would be replaced with apartment complexes. pickles 06-29-2023, 08:51 AM Any kind of upscale retail development on the current Shephard Mall site would be too speculative to make it through corporate approval. soonerguru 06-29-2023, 12:39 PM Any kind of upscale retail development on the current Shephard Mall site would be too speculative to make it through corporate approval. People who lack vision don't reap the rewards. I'm merely suggesting a mixed-use development featuring housing, not an OAK copycat development. Geez. progressiveboy 06-30-2023, 10:59 AM I grew up in the Shepard Mall area, specifically the Cleveland area. At one time, this was a great area, but in my personal opinion, I just do not see that area bouncing back at 100%. Shepard Mall area is very "marginal" at best and I do not see it making a huge comeback. Driving around the area, it is hit and miss with upkeep of homes. It would be nice if a huge developer with big pockets can redevelop the area. From NW 23rd to around NW 36th the area looks a little ratty!! SEMIweather 06-30-2023, 11:10 AM I grew up in the Shepard Mall area, specifically the Cleveland area. At one time, this was a great area, but in my personal opinion, I just do not see that area bouncing back at 100%. Shepard Mall area is very "marginal" at best and I do not see it making a huge comeback. Driving around the area, it is hit and miss with upkeep of homes. It would be nice if a huge developer with big pockets can redevelop the area. From NW 23rd to around NW 36th the area looks a little ratty!! People said this about many other neighborhoods in the core until the moment that they actually did make a comeback. I really think just about everything bounded by I-44, I-235, and I-40 is set up for a positive trajectory in the long-run, with the possible exception of Westlawn Gardens. progressiveboy 06-30-2023, 11:17 AM People said this about many other neighborhoods in the core until the moment that they actually did make a comeback. I really think just about everything bounded by I-44, I-235, and I-40 is set up for a positive trajectory in the long-run, with the possible exception of Westlawn Gardens. Hope this happens for this area. It will take millions for it to make a comeback. Wishing the best for OKC core! rte66man 07-01-2023, 09:37 AM I grew up in the Shepard Mall area, specifically the Cleveland area. At one time, this was a great area, but in my personal opinion, I just do not see that area bouncing back at 100%. Shepard Mall area is very "marginal" at best and I do not see it making a huge comeback. Driving around the area, it is hit and miss with upkeep of homes. It would be nice if a huge developer with big pockets can redevelop the area. From NW 23rd to around NW 36th the area looks a little ratty!! IMO, the problem with redevelopment around Shepherd Mall is its close proximity to the Plaza District (your locally owned restaurants and shops), the Oak (new national groups), and Penn Square/Belle Isle (the usual mall/big box stores). As far as retail and restaurants go, you will end up with the fast food establishments that are already there. If a developer really wants mixed use, they will have to work double hard to fill it. Just the facts 07-01-2023, 10:47 AM I think it is the opposite - development attracts development. soonerguru 07-02-2023, 12:05 AM IMO, the problem with redevelopment around Shepherd Mall is its close proximity to the Plaza District (your locally owned restaurants and shops), the Oak (new national groups), and Penn Square/Belle Isle (the usual mall/big box stores). As far as retail and restaurants go, you will end up with the fast food establishments that are already there. If a developer really wants mixed use, they will have to work double hard to fill it. It can be done. A lot of you all are pretty negative about OKC’s prospects given what is happening in our city. Again, I am not suggesting this would be a development like OAK. Pete 07-08-2023, 09:23 AM http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/oak070823a.jpg http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/oak070823b.jpg http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/oak070823c.jpg Teo9969 07-08-2023, 03:01 PM So we should top out the floor count this week on the hotel through there will be some additional height for the mechanical and facade on the roof. Pretty cool!! As much as that area had already changed, the addition of the 3 lots right against NWX and to the corner of Penn is going to make this feel even bigger. stlokc 07-08-2023, 05:51 PM This is kind of nitpicky. But I'm a little perplexed why the taller building on the east side of this development is angled the way that it is. The apartments are being built parallel to Penn but the taller building is angled differently. Does anybody else find that visually strange? April in the Plaza 07-08-2023, 05:53 PM This is kind of nitpicky. But I'm a little perplexed why the taller building on the east side of this development is angled the way that it is. The apartments are being built parallel to Penn but the taller building is angled differently. Does anybody else find that visually strange? doesn't the taller building have to be angled differently to allow sufficient room for the tightly manicured courtyard? Pete 07-08-2023, 05:55 PM doesn't the taller building have to be angled differently to allow sufficient room for the tightly manicured courtyard? And the drive between it and Penn and a million other things they are trying to cram onto a tiny piece of land. This is the problem with drone shots... Absolutely nobody is going to see this property from the angles I post. catch22 07-08-2023, 07:07 PM Speaking of, can anyone get some street level views for us who are too far away to see it with the naked eye? :) Easy parking at the bank across the street! shai2022 07-08-2023, 08:16 PM This is kind of nitpicky. But I'm a little perplexed why the taller building on the east side of this development is angled the way that it is. The apartments are being built parallel to Penn but the taller building is angled differently. Does anybody else find that visually strange? Could be that way so there is no view into the Temple backyard from top hotel floors. gjl 07-08-2023, 09:53 PM Speaking of, can anyone get some street level views for us who are too far away to see it with the naked eye? :) Easy parking at the bank across the street! Having seen it from street level sitting at the stop light on NW Highway and Penn many times you don't grasp the overall size of the development like you do from the drone shots IMO. David 07-10-2023, 08:38 AM Having seen it from street level sitting at the stop light on NW Highway and Penn many times you don't grasp the overall size of the development like you do from the drone shots IMO. The view of it while driving west on I-44 is also pretty impressive. Pete 07-15-2023, 09:12 AM http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/oak071523a.jpg http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/oak071523b.jpg http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/oak071523c.jpg http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/oak071523d.jpg soonerguru 07-15-2023, 04:18 PM Very impressive in person. ChrisHayes 07-15-2023, 04:54 PM I was up there taking pictures of the site with my phone earlier. I'd love to get permission to walk around inside the site getting pictures with my actual camera. Same can be said for at Okana and other major projects around the city. HFAA Alum 07-15-2023, 06:36 PM And to think there's a whole other office tower that's slated to be built along with all of this. I can't help but to think if there will be more vertical developments sprouting out in this area, preferably residential. ChrisHayes 07-15-2023, 06:47 PM And to think there's a whole other office tower that's slated to be built along with all of this. I can't help but to think if there will be more vertical developments sprouting out in this area, preferably residential. I can't tell you how much I would love for this area to infill with mid rise to 10-20 story buildings as you go up NW Expressway. Roughly between Penn and Baptist Medical Center. Have it turn into OKC's second high rise district. It's already close to it. April in the Plaza 07-15-2023, 07:02 PM And to think there's a whole other office tower that's slated to be built along with all of this. I can't help but to think if there will be more vertical developments sprouting out in this area, preferably residential. do you have a rough idea of total leasable sqft in the proposed tower? HFAA Alum 07-15-2023, 07:43 PM do you have a rough idea of total leasable sqft in the proposed tower? Not quite sure on the square footage, but you may want to direct that question to Pete. However, it's looks to fill out the area. 18140 Pete 07-16-2023, 06:57 AM do you have a rough idea of total leasable sqft in the proposed tower? They aren't close to deciding this yet. Rover 07-16-2023, 09:29 AM I can't tell you how much I would love for this area to infill with mid rise to 10-20 story buildings as you go up NW Expressway. Roughly between Penn and Baptist Medical Center. Have it turn into OKC's second high rise district. It's already close to it. Actually would run from Classen to west of Hefner pkway as there are mid and high rise there already. HOT ROD 07-17-2023, 12:18 PM I was going to say that, it's already OKC's 2nd highrise district (NWX from Classen to LHPW). But def would love to see more infill, not at the expense of downtown though. HFAA Alum 07-17-2023, 03:56 PM I was going to say that, it's already OKC's 2nd highrise district (NWX from Classen to LHPW). But def would love to see more infill, not at the expense of downtown though. The thing is that it wouldn't come at the expense of downtown's development because of the zoning around the area. You can't just replace housing with massive offices fifteen stories tall. Plus many of the residents in the area will either look to get compensated fairly for the homes, given residency elsewhere, or be offered a finance-friendly lease (even if it is a free residency but that depends on the developer). After that, you still have many national and international chains looking to put their stake in the downtown area in the meantime. Tourism would still continue to be focused around the downtown area with the incoming amenities and the like. And even if you look to put more on this strip, there's only so much you can add before it starts to interrupt the current residents in a negative way (noise pollution, light pollution, traffic, etc.) I'm not saying that this area won't have any tourism value, which it does to an extent. I'm just saying this area doesn't have as much of the tourism draw as the downtown area already has. And this place would be better for mixed urban development while downtown continues to be the desired location for many looking to either reside in that area or build businesses in the CBD. In either case, the downtown has a lot more draw than in this area. If anything it will diversify the options of prospective tenants. And in the long-run, the city will be better for it. |