KD has requested a trade from the Nets. I'm watching where they predict he might land but dammit my glasses are broken so I can't really see it.

Sooo…he STILL hasn’t led a team a ring. It’s a damned shame that a generational talent of his caliber - probably one of the 2 or 3 most gifted players in the history of the game - has accomplished pretty much NOTHING of his own in a career, other than bailing on teams when leadership was required.

He’s tarnished his legacy irretrievably, and instead of cementing a reputation as one of the greatest players ever will instead go down as defensibly the most talented ROLE PLAYERS of all time. I don’t feel sorry for him; I feel sorry for the game of basketball.

Sooo…he STILL hasn’t led a team a ring. It’s a damned shame that a generational talent of his caliber - probably one of the 2 or 3 most gifted players in the history of the game - has accomplished pretty much NOTHING of his own in a career, other than bailing on teams when leadership was required.

He’s tarnished his legacy irretrievably, and instead of cementing a reputation as one of the greatest players ever will instead go down as defensibly the most talented ROLE PLAYERS of all time. I don’t feel sorry for him; I feel sorry for the game of basketball.

His two preferred teams are the Suns and the Heat. They were the no. 1 seeds in their respective conferences. Mr. Cupcake is a shameless ring chaser.

Shameless.

Gee...the nerve of KD. I expected him to request Sacramento, Indiana or Minnesota.

Gee...the nerve of KD. I expected him to request Sacramento, Indiana or Minnesota.

"This", lol.

Gee...the nerve of KD. I expected him to request Sacramento, Indiana or Minnesota.

Dude is just admitting he can't win a championship unless he JOINS a team that is already championship caliber. He will always be seen as a ring chaser and if that's the legacy he wants to leave, more power to him.

Dude is just admitting he can't win a championship unless he JOINS a team that is already championship caliber. He will always be seen as a ring chaser and if that's the legacy he wants to leave, more power to him.

I was thinking the same thing this morning reading about him trying to figure out if he wants to go to Miami or Phoenix

He should have stayed in the Bay Area unless he was traded

says he is under contract with the Nets until 25/26

Dude is just admitting he can't win a championship unless he JOINS a team that is already championship caliber. He will always be seen as a ring chaser and if that's the legacy he wants to leave, more power to him.

Any top 5 players in recent memory requesting a trade to an up and comer or King James going home.

Paul George demanded a trade and landed in OKC. Carmelo Anthony went to the Knicks from Denver. Vince Carter went to the Nets from Toronto. Kyrie Irving actually won a championship with LeBron in Cleveland and asked to be traded ending up at Boston. Chris Paul wanted out of NOLA and got traded to the Clippers.

That enough for you?

Sooo…he STILL hasn’t led a team a ring. It’s a damned shame that a generational talent of his caliber - probably one of the 2 or 3 most gifted players in the history of the game - has accomplished pretty much NOTHING of his own in a career, other than bailing on teams when leadership was required.

He’s tarnished his legacy irretrievably, and instead of cementing a reputation as one of the greatest players ever will instead go down as defensibly the most talented ROLE PLAYERS of all time. I don’t feel sorry for him; I feel sorry for the game of basketball.

Lol. He has an MVP, two Finals MVPs, and two titles. He’s an all star and all NBA player every year. Yeah, I dont love how KD handled things and isn’t loved by any fan base. But he’s never been a role player and he’s probably going to end up a top 25 player of all time. The notion that he’s accomplished “NOTHING” I just doesn’t square with reality.

Paul George demanded a trade and landed in OKC. Carmelo Anthony went to the Knicks from Denver. Vince Carter went to the Nets from Toronto. Kyrie Irving actually won a championship with LeBron in Cleveland and asked to be traded ending up at Boston. Chris Paul wanted out of NOLA and got traded to the Clippers.

That enough for you?

Being traded to those teams and actually requesting to be traded to those specefic teams are two different animals.

Being traded to those teams and actually requesting to be traded to those specefic teams are two different animals.

The fact that those stars didn't request to be traded to specific teams only highlights how KD is an outlier.

The fact that those stars didn't request to be traded to specific teams only highlights how KD is an outlier.

That's true. No other player has his talents. Hence accomadations are made for a big dog. Just like when LJ requested Miami send him to Cleveland.

Being traded to those teams and actually requesting to be traded to those specefic teams are two different animals.

In the last 26 years there has only been 4 all star players that stayed with the same team their entire career

Dirk Nowitzki
Kobe Bryant
Tim Duncan
Manu Ginóbili

Moving the goal posts, are we? You went from "name a star that demanded to be traded to an up and comer" to "KD is so good he's justified in demanding a trade to a ready made championship team".

Moving the goal posts, are we? You went from "name a star that demanded to be traded to an up and comer" to "KD is so good he's justified in demanding a trade to a ready made championship team".

Paul George requested to be traded in 2017 so KD is not the only one

Plus https://fadeawayworld.net/nba/10-nba-superstars-who-forced-a-trade-anthony-davis-to-lakers-kawhi-leonard-to-raptors

Moving the goal posts, are we? You went from "name a star that demanded to be traded to an up and comer" to "KD is so good he's justified in demanding a trade to a ready made championship team".

Is that not what you did when you threw out a bunch that were traded? George didn't demand a trade to OKC. He never requested a trade to an up and comer.

https://search.yahoo.com/search?p=Paul+george+to+okc&fr=yfp-t&fr2=p%3Afp%2Cm%3Asb&ei=UTF-8&fp=1
The trade ends weeks of speculation regarding George, the 27-year-old forward who had committed to playing with the Pacers in 2017-18 but said he would become a free agent next offseason and preferred to join the Los Angeles Lakers. George is from Southern California.

Didn't Kobe demand to be traded to the Lakers after Charlotte drafted him? Of course his talent was also an outlier.

Is that not what you did when you threw out a bunch that were traded? George didn't demand a trade to OKC. He never requested a trade to an up and comer.

https://search.yahoo.com/search?p=Paul+george+to+okc&fr=yfp-t&fr2=p%3Afp%2Cm%3Asb&ei=UTF-8&fp=1
The trade ends weeks of speculation regarding George, the 27-year-old forward who had committed to playing with the Pacers in 2017-18 but said he would become a free agent next offseason and preferred to join the Los Angeles Lakers. George is from Southern California.

Didn't Kobe demand to be traded to the Lakers after Charlotte drafted him? Of course his talent was also an outlier.

Kobe was drafted by the Charlotte Hornets and was immediately traded to LA, to bad for Charlotte

Kobe was drafted by the Charlotte Hornets and was immediately traded to LA, to bad for Charlotte
There was considerably more to that trade.

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/kobe-bryant-and-the-draft-day-trade-that-changed-nba-history/

There was considerably more to that trade.

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/kobe-bryant-and-the-draft-day-trade-that-changed-nba-history/

Not really unless you are talking about Divac threatening to retire rather than be traded from Los Angeles which he soon relented and agreed to the trade

Not really unless you are talking about Divac threatening to retire rather than be traded from Los Angeles which he soon relented and agreed to the trade

From the cited article.
"Kobe, allegedly, didn't want to play for the Nets due to a falling out with his family. Rumors suddenly began flying that Bryant was willing to play in Italy if he didn't end up with the NBA team of his desire. In other words, the Lakers.

And so the stakes were set. And the draft began."

The fact that those stars didn't request to be traded to specific teams only highlights how KD is an outlier.


So are you of the opinion that the players should not make known where they want to be traded to and just play where they are told to by an owner pursuing a trade?

Here's the thing that's being overlooked. KD can ring chase all he wants to. He can request a trade to last year's conference champs, but the Nets are under no obligation to trade hime to either of those teams. KD still has 4 years left on his contract and Sean Marks should do what is best for his team and get the best deal available. NOLA is the team I'm hearing that can put together the best package.

From the cited article.
"Kobe, allegedly, didn't want to play for the Nets due to a falling out with his family. Rumors suddenly began flying that Bryant was willing to play in Italy if he didn't end up with the NBA team of his desire. In other words, the Lakers.

And so the stakes were set. And the draft began."

Yeah, just that, it was rumors

"Then, in a draft day trade that would change the course of NBA history, they dealt him to the Los Angeles Lakers in exchange for Vlade Divac. This much is indisputable.
How it all happened, however, is not."

It came down to Charlotte not wanting Kobe he was not a superstar by any means he was a rookie hence charlotte not caring about him.

Kobe requested to be traded to chicago in 2007 but obviously that didn't work out for him.

https://news.yahoo.com/kevin-durants-trade-request-reminiscent-145901513.html#:~:text=Not%20all%20NBA%20trade%20r equests%20are%20granted.&text=Among%20the%20bigger%20what%2Difs,in%202015%2 0of%20his%20request.

Dude is just admitting he can't win a championship unless he JOINS a team that is already championship caliber. He will always be seen as a ring chaser and if that's the legacy he wants to leave, more power to him.

+1

+1

KD has won two championships and was MVP for both of them

Here's the thing that's being overlooked. KD can ring chase all he wants to. He can request a trade to last year's conference champs, but the Nets are under no obligation to trade hime to either of those teams. KD still has 4 years left on his contract and Sean Marks should do what is best for his team and get the best deal available. NOLA is the team I'm hearing that can put together the best package.

I agree with all of your statement. The Nets are under no obligation to trade him or trade him to where he wants. How tenable that position would be remains to be seen. The NBA is more a players league than the other 3 major team sports and that is also a reality.

KD has won two championships and was MVP for both of them

This is what he did

Quote Originally Posted by catcherinthewry View Post
Dude is just admitting he can't win a championship unless he JOINS a team that is already championship caliber.

Lol. He has an MVP, two Finals MVPs, and two titles. He’s an all star and all NBA player every year. Yeah, I dont love how KD handled things and isn’t loved by any fan base. But he’s never been a role player and he’s probably going to end up a top 25 player of all time. The notion that he’s accomplished “NOTHING” I just doesn’t square with reality.
I didn’t say he hasn’t received accolades for being a great individual player; I said he’s accomplished nothing [truly] of his own. I also said, by the way, that he’s a generational talent.

If he were ANY kind of leader we’d realistically be talking about him in the same breath as Kobe and Jordan, but we’re not, are we? We also never will. When Jordan couldn’t get past the Pistons he didn’t look to join the Pistons. MJ tried - and led - harder…until he DID win. KD is an AMAZINGLY talented coward. It’s a shame, and the absurd waste of a gift.

I’ll say it again: glorified role player. HIS choice, not mine.

I didn’t say he hasn’t received accolades for being a great individual player; I said he’s accomplished nothing [truly] of his own. I also said, by the way, that he’s a generational talent.

If he were ANY kind of leader we’d realistically be talking about him in the same breath as Kobe and Jordan, but we’re not, are we? We also never will. When Jordan couldn’t get past the Pistons he didn’t look to join the Pistons. MJ tried - and led - harder…until he DID win. KD is an AMAZINGLY talented coward. It’s a shame, and the absurd waste of a gift.

I’ll say it again: glorified role player. HIS choice, not mine.

Really? Seriously?

Kobe wanted to be in Chicago 2007 when **** went south and fortunately the powers that be stopped him from transferring

All the dumb talk about KD chasing rings is stupid all elite nba players want to play with other elite players

KD has two champs with two MVP’s dude has the right to want what he wants he has made old Uber wealthy white men a ton of money

Here's the bottom line on KD. When he joined the Ws in 2016 this is what was said: GSW didn't need KD, they just needed him not to be on OKC.

^^^^^^^^
Exactly. And he did his best to help damage the Thunder in the bargain, well beyond simply leaving. The man **** on OKC’s porch on the way out the door. The entire move was orchestrated to clear a path in the West. It was way beyond simple ring chasing.

^^^^^^^^
exactly. And he did his best to help damage the thunder in the bargain, well beyond simply leaving. The man **** on okc’s porch on the way out the door. The entire move was orchestrated to clear a path in the west. It was way beyond simple ring chasing.

lol

Do we have skips burner account here?

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Every reported free agency deal for all 30 teams


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Draymond Green slugs Jordan Poole


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New Video Shows Draymond Green Violently Punch Jordan Poole at Warriors Practice | TMZ Sports

There no shame in his game, 'Nutcracker' has elevated his game; this leaded practice video will probably
be taken down off the internet.

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Draymond Green fined but not suspended, set to rejoin Warriors


Steve Kerr says Draymond Green will play in the Warriors' final preseason game and will be available on opening night.
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Forbes release the NBA Team Values for 2022: https://www.forbes.com/sites/mikeozanian/2022/10/27/nba-team-values-2022-for-the-first-time-in-two-decades-the-top-spot-goes-to-a-franchise-thats-not-the-knicks-or-lakers/?utm_source=TWITTER&utm_medium=social&utm_content=8014844368&utm_campaign=sprinklrForbesMainTwitter&sh=68a301761cce

OKC is 24th at 1.875 billion. An increase of 15% from last year. They also have one of the higher operating incomes in the league at 129 million. So doomers may bemoan empty seats as a sign of relocation, but know that the franchise is doing just fine.

Thanks Jake:

Impressive when you consider our MSA population & TV market size--does our TV market include Tulsa, Lawton-Wichita Falls & Ft. Smith...


#24 Oklahoma City Thunder
#25 Orlando Magic
#26 Indiana Pacers
#27 Charlotte Hornets
#28 Minnesota Timberwolves
#29 Memphis Grizzlies
#30 New Orleans Pelicans

Noticed the NBA small markets under 2 million MSA populations like Milwaukee #15 & Utah (Salt Lake City) #19 looked great with
Oklahoma City ahead of Memphis & New Orleans.

Once we are able to secure a replacement arena with the Thunder as anchor tenants, that 'team value' will skyrocket
to the 15-20 range.

Thanks again to our Oklahoma ownership group for making all of this possible for our city & state.

It will also be interesting to see if that helps with revenue when they move away from Bally. More TV providers will have access to a new channel I would expect.

Any idea when Thunder move away from Bally Sports? Have a hard time justifying paying an extra $19.99/moth for Bally Sports +. The fans will be back. Thunder just need to get away from the tank narrative, which I fully understand and appreciate. The Thunder schedule is tough enough this year so hopefully we experience a natural tank and get to see everyone play into early spring.

Have there been any arena updates?

Also, curious to when we will have a rebrand. Not sure how far Thunder will go but have seen some very cool ideas out there..

We won't see anything about leaving Bally until next season. Sinclair will have to either sell off the rights back to the NBA or bankrupt. They are loaded with debt so who knows.

We won't see anything about leaving Bally until next season. Sinclair will have to either sell off the rights back to the NBA or bankrupt. They are loaded with debt so who knows.

i don't think the teams are going to leave bally ...

the NBA and MLB and maybe NHL will likely buy bally ... and rebrand it ... and then hopefully they can get better distribution ..

Steve Nash was fired from the Brooklyn Nets. Maybe the Thunder should consider him as the next head coach?

Steve Nash was fired from the Brooklyn Nets. Maybe the Thunder should consider him as the next head coach?

Please delete this nephew.

Steve Nash was fired from the Brooklyn Nets. Maybe the Thunder should consider him as the next head coach?

Why ?

Coach D is doing a great job.

Why ?

Coach D is doing a great job.

Yeah I think he is exceeding expectations and I didn't really have any.

Sam Presti is such a good general manager. We are very fortunate to have him.

Steve Nash was fired from the Brooklyn Nets. Maybe the Thunder should consider him as the next head coach?

Tell me you don't anything about basketball without telling me you don't know anything about basketball

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Steve Nash was fired from the Brooklyn Nets. Maybe the Thunder should consider him as the next head coach?

I am not a Thunder fan but you are an idiot for thinking that Thunder should consider Nash as the next coach, there is a reason Nash got fired and that is because he SUCKS

I am not a Thunder fan but you are an idiot for thinking that Thunder should consider Nash as the next coach, there is a reason Nash got fired and that is because he SUCKS

I won’t call anyone an idiot for their sports opinion, but seeing how quickly Brooklyn clicked once he was gone, it’s impossible to look back and see him as anything more than an emphatic failure. I think a lot of that has to do with him originally being brought in to basically be a puppet-designated-coach while KD, Kyrie, and eventually Harden balled, but once conflict arose and strategy became essential, he was completely inept in managing it. I will say, assuming this isn’t some crazy timing coincidence, I’m impressed with the job Jacque Vaughn has done. When Brooklyn decided to not hire Ime Udoku and go with Vaughn instead, there were a lot of Nets fans that hated it. So if this is truly a result of his improvement as a coach, I’m highly impressed with him and the Nets could very well be the best team in the league with how they’ve come back together since he took over.

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Rumor: Thunder would allow GM Sam Presti to leave for Knicks if he wanted to:


Presti has been with the Thunder since 2007. He’s one of the best execs in the league. Members of the Knicks are said to be fond of Presti, but it’s unknown if Presti has interest in leaving his stable position with the Thunder for a murky one with the Knicks.

Knicks’ front office desperately needs to follow Sam Presti’s lead: https://dailyknicks.com/2022/04/18/new-york-knicks-front-office-desperately-needs-follow-sam-presti-lead/


The standard is drastically different for the Thunder. Presti’s proven more than once that he knows what it takes to lead a franchise and his most recent presser was no different.

Sam Presti’s Process is Putting the Thunder in a Prime Position: https://boardroom.tv/sam-presti-process-thunder/


Thunder GM Sam Presti started the Thunder’s dramatic rebuild in 2020 by trading superstars for draft picks, young talent, and financial flexibility. All things considered, the team is currently overachieving at 7-8 despite having the league’s most youthful squad (22.6 years old) with the fourth-lowest payroll ($94.8 million).

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NBA TRADES:


ESPN’s Adrian Wojnarowski reported on Thursday afternoon that the Lakers, Timberwolves and Jazz have agreed to a three-way trade before Friday’s deadline.

The news comes after a report from Wojnarowski that Westbrook and coach Darvin Ham got into a “heated verbal exchange” in the locker room during halftime against Oklahoma City.

The agreed trade sees the Lakers acquire D’Angelo Russell, Malik Beasley and Jarred Vanderbilt while the Jazz receive Westbrook, Juan Toscano-Anderson, Damian Jones and a lightly protected 2027 first-round pick.

The Wolves, meanwhile, get Mike Conley Jr., Nickeil Alexander-Walker and three second-round picks as part of the deal.

It is expected that a buyout would be the likely path for Westbrook, who has $16.2 million left on his $47 million contract for the season.

Nets officially trade Kyrie Irving to Mavericks:

Brooklyn receives:


Spencer Dinwiddie
Dorian Finney-Smith
2027 second-round pick
2029 first-round pick (unprotected)
2029 second round-pick

Dallas receives:


Kyrie Irving
Markieff Morris



NBA Trade deadline: February 9, 2 p.m. CST

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The Snake is headed to the desert.

I’d say Jay Z won the trade.

The Snake is headed to the desert.

I’d say Jay Z won the trade.

Jay-Z sold his stake in the Nets a decade ago. He has an agency Rocnation, but I don't think they rep any of the players involved. What do you mean by Jay-Z won the trade?

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NBA trade tracker: All the deals from the 2023 deadline in one place: https://ftw.usatoday.com/lists/nba-trade-tracker-deadline-2023-all-trades

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Suns championship odds went from +1800 to +450 after the KD trade.

Oklahoma City Thunder 2022-23 Exit Interviews:



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