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Address: 800 N. Broadway
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Status: Starting construction soon
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Information & Latest News
8/4/14: Signed lease at 800 N. Broadway; had previously committed to The Rise but changed plans due to long delays.
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Wait, did they leave The Rise?

Wait, did they leave The Rise?

According to Pete's update they did.

According to Pete's update they did.

I should have read the "Information & Latest News" before posting.

Will they still get a roof top deck?

I'm hoping they utilize the rooftop of this building, ala Rawhide, Plenty and Packard's.


I'm sure The Rise will have no trouble leasing their old space once construction moves along.

I was super-excited that they were going to be at The Rise, and while I'm still excited for Automobile Alley (my first love) I'm now a little bummed that they will be so close to WSKY. Hope they don't cannibalize each other too much.

Considering WSKY has the jazz club element, it's my bet they'll work well off of eachother.

Very glad to see something going into that bland space. Broadway is looking good!

That's quite a large space, and there's still the other half of e building. I like it, it has great windows and should give some life to the street.

I presume it will be a color other than white when it opens.

Prepare for much online wailing and gnashing of teeth by people who are put out by the fact that a cigar bar allows the smoking of cigars.

gnashers gonna gnash

Prepare for much online wailing and gnashing of teeth by people who are put out by the fact that a cigar bar allows the smoking of cigars.
I would have had a great time at Fedora's if it wasn't for all those @$$holes with the cigars.

Just learned there will in fact be a rooftop patio for Fedora.

They are taking half the 14,000 square feet on the ground floor of this building plus a 2,500 SF basement.

The other half is leased to a sushi restaurant.

Just learned there will in fact be a rooftop patio for Fedora.

They are taking half the 14,000 square feet on the ground floor of this building plus a 2,500 SF basement.

The other half is leased to a sushi restaurant.


go on.....

Which sushi restaurant? Folks have no idea how close Neko came to being located inside the Magnolia Petroleum Building instead of its current location on Western when it opened in the nineties. They were looking to include a rooftop at the time. That one shift might have completely changed the complexion of Automobile Alley and of Western in one fell swoop.

The owner of Magnolia is the same owner as this building.

This is actually one building that looks like two.

The sushi place will be on the corner (cross street is 7th) and Fedora will be just north of that.

This is a very visible property right in the middle of Auto Alley; would love to see a patio along 7th:

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Two for one on the developments, huge win for AA!

Yay for rooftops.. Patios... Sushi..basement... and Cigars!.. Ilike all of it!

Wow what a game changer for AA! And in response to a comment above - I don't think WSKY and Fedora will cannibalize? WSKY is so full all the time, it sure seems as though there's a place for both.

Any news on this development? I haven't seen any type of movement on this building at all.

Edit: last time I went by I believe there was a For Lease sign out by where the sushi place was supposed to go.

Fedora is still moving forward. Josh Valentine will be the chef. May rename to Ash & Amber.

Sushi place is not a done deal as of yet but still may happen.

Fedora is still moving forward. Josh Valentine will be the chef. May rename to Ash & Amber.

Sushi place is not a done deal as of yet but still may happen.

I'm a WAY bigger fan of Ash & Amber than Fedora.

I'm excited for this to move forward, mostly for this ugly building to get a facelift.

It's a key corner and would help bridge upper and lower Automobile Alley.

Fedora is still moving forward. Josh Valentine will be the chef. May rename to Ash & Amber.

Interesting.... I thought I had heard Valentine's opportunity that took him away from The George was out of state... Glad to hear he is staying local for the time being.

Interesting.... I thought I had heard Valentine's opportunity that took him away from The George was out of state... Glad to hear he is staying local for the time being.

I thought it was posted somewhere on here (but it may have been in a NewsOK article) that said Valentine was going out of state as well. Is it a certainty that he's going to be the chef for Fedora?

Valentine may just be helping to develop the menu, not be the actual chef.

So financing is in place and things like that. Do you know what they may we waiting on to move forward?

So financing is in place and things like that. Do you know what they may we waiting on to move forward?

Their plan is to share the rooftop with the sushi place and have been waiting for them to finalize their plans.

I think Fedora / Amber & Ash is ready to go but there is the potential to make it even cooler through working with the sushi place.

Any updates on this space Pete?

Due to the pending changes in the smoking laws, I understand they are having a hard time getting financing and are now looking for a new concept.

Due to the pending changes in the smoking laws, I understand they are having a hard time getting financing and are now looking for a new concept.

Other states provide exemptions for cigar lounges so I don't understand why Oklahoma cannot do the same.

I am guessing this will be the end for WSKY lounge as well?

Due to the pending changes in the smoking laws, I understand they are having a hard time getting financing and are now looking for a new concept.

So we are seriously that close to a change in smoking laws that it is affecting their financing options?. wow

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Yes.

The change is coming, either this year or next.

That is the problem with a all or none approach to the smoking issue. I have no issue with non smoking bars and as a general rule, I think it is good. But, when it prohibits a specifically designed place, then it has gone too far. The Fedora is designed to be a cigar bar...if you don't like cigars than don't go but don't prevent others from having a place they can go and enjoy a cigar. I support the no smoking ban has long as it has some common sense exemptions. There has to be a happy medium.

There will still be a cigar bar at Cosmopolitan OKC.

That is the problem with a all or none approach to the smoking issue. I have no issue with non smoking bars and as a general rule, I think it is good. But, when it prohibits a specifically designed place, then it has gone too far. The Fedora is designed to be a cigar bar...if you don't like cigars than don't go but don't prevent others from having a place they can go and enjoy a cigar. I support the no smoking ban has long as it has some common sense exemptions. There has to be a happy medium.

Completely agree. Other states, North Carolina for instance, did a total ban on smoking in all bars and restaurants, but they still have exemptions for cigar bars.

What Jeep said. Spot on.

Waiting to see but not having high hopes as it will be outside. With Oklahoma's weather, not sure how functional it will be. Also, never seen outdoor furniture as comfortable as a big leather chair like you find in a lot of cigar bars. A proper cigar bar is a very specific setting to most people (think Makers) and will be interesting to see what they create there. I will enjoy Edna's more if it is non smoking but I do not see the harm of allowing exemptions for places like Fedora if they are designed to be cigar bars. Generally, what I have seen in other states with exemptions is that a certain amount of the sales must be made from sale of cigars. There is at least one place in Tulsa over by Cherry Street that is a cigar shop with full line of cigars attached to the cigar bar. Cool concept.

I look forward to a ban on smoking in bars but I agree that an exemption for Cigar bars would be great. However I don't have a lot of faith that Oklahoma will get it right when they do act on this.

Other states provide exemptions for cigar lounges so I don't understand why Oklahoma cannot do the same.

I am guessing this will be the end for WSKY lounge as well?

WSKY lounge will be fine. We've been aware of this legislation since day 1 and have known it was coming for over a year. Although an exemption would be ideal, being non smoking isn't going to kill us. Cigars make up less than 20 percent of our overall sales and it's been proven in many markets that's entire cities going none smoking has resulted in an overall increase in smoking establishments business. Once it becomes the norm to everyone, smokers accept that they must go outside and non smokers now can enjoy every bar without smoking, therefore increasing our sales.

We have plenty of people who love our cocktails and whisky but don't come due to smoking. Once again, it's not ideal since I'm a cigar bar but it won't be that big of a change overall.

Just curious as to why cigar bars get a pass from the anti-smoking crowd.
Do cigar smokers not get lung cancer or the employees of these bars not get exposed to second hand smoke?

This from a former pack and half day smoker that frequents smoking and nonsmoking bars.

WSKY lounge will be fine. We've been aware of this legislation since day 1 and have known it was coming for over a year. Although an exemption would be ideal, being non smoking isn't going to kill us. Cigars make up less than 20 percent of our overall sales and it's been proven in many markets that's entire cities going none smoking has resulted in an overall increase in smoking establishments business. Once it becomes the norm to everyone, smokers accept that they must go outside and non smokers now can enjoy every bar without smoking, therefore increasing our sales.

We have plenty of people who love our cocktails and whisky but don't come due to smoking. Once again, it's not ideal since I'm a cigar bar but it won't be that big of a change overall.

Good to hear. WSKY lounge is one of my favorite places in OKC. While it will be disappointing to no longer be able to smoke a cigar there, I will still go for the drinks and the atmosphere.

Every time I see this thread:

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There's a lot of appeal to a well-designed bar that has great beers and great craft cocktails. To me, the appeal of WHSKY isn't the cigars, but the cozy, comfortable adult space. As we get more bars, they can fill different niches.

Every time I see this thread:

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I am glad I'm not the only one. These hats are forever ruined.

Just curious as to why cigar bars get a pass from the anti-smoking crowd.
Do cigar smokers not get lung cancer or the employees of these bars not get exposed to second hand smoke?

This from a former pack and half day smoker that frequents smoking and nonsmoking bars.

I don't care what people do with their own health frankly, it is their choice. HOwever I would like to be able to go to bars and not be covered in smoke. The increase in non-smoking bars in okc is nice however there are still far fewer than there are bars who allow smoking. FOr a cigar bar that is their Niche. Its to enjoy a nice cigar and a cocktail so I am ok with them having an exemption to do so. then you are talking about a handful of bars that you can avoid if you don't want to go to a smoke filled bar.

I heard they were going to provide a food option too of some sort. I think this derailed a lot of things.

Good to hear. WSKY lounge is one of my favorite places in OKC. While it will be disappointing to no longer be able to smoke a cigar there, I will still go for the drinks and the atmosphere.

Ditto.

I don't care what people do with their own health frankly, it is their choice. HOwever I would like to be able to go to bars and not be covered in smoke. The increase in non-smoking bars in okc is nice however there are still far fewer than there are bars who allow smoking. FOr a cigar bar that is their Niche. Its to enjoy a nice cigar and a cocktail so I am ok with them having an exemption to do so. then you are talking about a handful of bars that you can avoid if you don't want to go to a smoke filled bar.

But if a bar allows smoking, then you just don't go there, too, right? Same difference. Smoking is smoking. I guess if maybe everywhere that allowed smoking called themselves a Cigarette Bar people would be okay with it?

Honestly, I don't care either way and I am fine with smoking bans, but there really is no logical reason why cigars should get an exception, except snobbery. If smoking bans are health motivated, cigars should get no exception. Personally, I think there should be certain restrictions and designations if you want to allow smoking in order to help customers make educated decisions and to mitigate health risks in establishments where it is allowed, but I don't see how it makes any objective sense to legislate in what format the tobacco can be smoked.

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BDP, this was pretty much my point. If its health related then why isn't it across the board? If its just preference...well, I have a hard time saying a person or business can't do something just because I don't like it.

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BDP, this was pretty much my point. If its health related then why isn't it across the board? If its just preference...well, I have a hard time saying a person or business can't do something just because I don't like it.

This is why there are usually not exceptions for cigar bars where there are smoking bans.

The main basis of smoking bans is that they impact places of employment. They don't use the patrons argument.

It's the same issue in any workplace.

Just curious as to why cigar bars get a pass from the anti-smoking crowd.
Do cigar smokers not get lung cancer or the employees of these bars not get exposed to second hand smoke?

This from a former pack and half day smoker that frequents smoking and nonsmoking bars.

Your use of the word "anti-smokers" already implies your bias to one side of the argument. People may not be "anti" something as much as they are "pro" something else you might not agree with. Maybe the other half of the argument are "pro choice" so to speak, and for establishments that serve a majority of sales on food, where anyone should be able to patronize without having to breathe cancerous smoke, like the WSKY guy said, it typically results in a win-win from non-smokers and smokers accept it and smoke outside. I don't think it's rocket science that an establishment that has the bulk of it's sales and it's concept as STRICTLY cigars is an issue, I think the food sales make it an issue. It's obvious that if it's strictly a cigar lounge or cigar with some alcohol. Someone is going there for the intentional purpose to smoke cigars, or enjoy the smoke.....LOL.

But if a bar allows smoking, then you just don't go there, too, right? Same difference. Smoking is smoking. I guess if maybe everywhere that allowed smoking called themselves a Cigarette Bar people would be okay with it?

Honestly, I don't care either way and I am fine with smoking bans, but there really is no logical reason why cigars should get an exception, except snobbery. If smoking bans are health motivated, cigars should get no exception. Personally, I think there should be certain restrictions and designations if you want to allow smoking in order to help customers make educated decisions and to mitigate health risks in establishments where it is allowed, but I don't see how it makes any objective sense to legislate in what format the tobacco can be smoked.
Wouldn't the logical reason be that the "regular bars" don't sell cigarettes and that's not their primary form of revenue? Cigar bars typically sell cigars and is all or a good chunk of their revenue, so the argument is easily made that patrons are going there strictly for a sole purpose, versus regular bars people are going to drink or hook up or both?

This is why there are usually not exceptions for cigar bars where there are smoking bans.

The main basis of smoking bans is that they impact places of employment. They don't use the patrons argument.

It's the same issue in any workplace.

this is why that despite being annoyed about this law shelving Fedora for now, I have trouble arguing against the ban and its lack of exception for certain types of tobacco.

this is why that despite being annoyed about this law shelving Fedora for now, I have trouble arguing against the ban and its lack of exception for certain types of tobacco.

But the same patron argument works. There have been multiple references in threads about how hard it is to find good service help. Thus, there appears to be a demand for servers. No one will force people to work in a cigar bar if they do not want to work around smoke.

Also, I almost think that it would be a prereq that you smoke cigars to work I a cigar bar so you can discuss cigars and make recs. Wouldn't want a person recommending wine who doesn't drink