Perhaps the people close to you excuse your ignorance and dismiss your improper terms because they know you.. I can understand where that may be the case and they just say "bless her heart".

I used to have a senile Aunt the family always said that about.


To get back to the topic, what the hell was that scrolling across the bottom of all local channels last night? I stopped paying attention, but got the idea that this person had no contact with nobody, no nothing, really, not sure why they were freaking out over him/her. Just f-ing crazy to run that for so long on all the channels...

The news stations are loving this. It was non-stop coverage down here and when the nurse who had Ebola flew back to town it was breaking news on all the channels and they had cameras on the plane, you couldn't see her but they covered the crap out of the plane.

To get back to the topic, what the hell was that scrolling across the bottom of all local channels last night? I stopped paying attention, but got the idea that this person had no contact with nobody, no nothing, really, not sure why they were freaking out over him/her. Just f-ing crazy to run that for so long on all the channels...

Yes they ran it across the screen all night. .and broke in during commercials to tell us. but where quick to say its just being very cautious nothing to panic about **PANIC** PANIC**. and turns out the man does not have Ebola. he does however have Malaria.

Yes they ran it across the screen all night. .and broke in during commercials to tell us. but where quick to say its just being very cautious nothing to panic about **PANIC** PANIC**. and turns out the man does not have Ebola. he does however have Malaria.

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but wait......

A judge in Maine ruled Friday that Kaci Hickox, the nurse who treated Ebola patients and defied a state-imposed quarantine, can come and go as she pleases, as long as she is monitored for symptoms and lets health officials know where she’s going.

The same judge had issued a temporary order on Thursday night ordering Hickox to stay at least three feet away from other people and to stay away from crowds and public transportation.

But the judge, Charles C. LaVerdiere of state court, lifted those parts of the order on Friday. He found that authorities in Maine had not proved that restricting Hickox’s movement was necessary to protect the public from infection. He said that his order was pending a further hearing.

Hickox said she would comply, and she said she was grateful for support from all over the world. She announced no plans beyond staying in to watch a Halloween movie with her boyfriend on Friday night.

Kaci Hickox 'Humbled' by Maine Judge's Ebola Ruling - NBC News (http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ebola-virus-outbreak/kaci-hickox-humbled-maine-judges-ebola-ruling-n238326)

but wait......

A judge in Maine ruled Friday that Kaci Hickox, the nurse who treated Ebola patients and defied a state-imposed quarantine, can come and go as she pleases, as long as she is monitored for symptoms and lets health officials know where she’s going.

The same judge had issued a temporary order on Thursday night ordering Hickox to stay at least three feet away from other people and to stay away from crowds and public transportation.

But the judge, Charles C. LaVerdiere of state court, lifted those parts of the order on Friday. He found that authorities in Maine had not proved that restricting Hickox’s movement was necessary to protect the public from infection. He said that his order was pending a further hearing.

Hickox said she would comply, and she said she was grateful for support from all over the world. She announced no plans beyond staying in to watch a Halloween movie with her boyfriend on Friday night.

Kaci Hickox 'Humbled' by Maine Judge's Ebola Ruling - NBC News (http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ebola-virus-outbreak/kaci-hickox-humbled-maine-judges-ebola-ruling-n238326)

Is she required to stay 3 feet from Boyfriend as they watch the movie?.. we can't be too careful

Is she required to stay 3 feet from Boyfriend as they watch the movie?.. we can't be too careful

Well you know how men measure 12 inches so it may be a shorter distance that originally thought *lol*

Well you know how men measure 12 inches so it may be a shorter distance that originally thought *lol*

:yeahthat:

I apologize moderaters I attempted to not make this personal.. however to use such offensive terms and then be able to defend them and insult others is over the top for me.. instead of just admitting it was poor choice of words. over and over and over and always turn it around on everyone is just beyond. never taking any responsibility.
Tell you what. I'm talking to my brother, this weekend and I'll ask his opinion if he thinks my horrible use of "AIDS people" is objectively indicative of a horrible person who is ignorant. I'll ask him if gay folk will of course condescendingly think "bless her heart" when they know me and hear me say it. I'll ask him if I deserved the bitching out and fury my words caused. I'll ask him if equating the ebola crisis with the AIDES crisis strikes him as a good idea. I'll ask him if he thinks it is offensive for a straight person with a gay loved one to express that they have a right to speak their mind. And I'll ask him if he agrees with you that a public attack on my terminology, bringing up that you are gay so you should be listened to, calling someone insensitive and ignorant for using "improper terms" does or does not create walls that have to be there. Of course he's my brother and his take on the situation might be different from yours. The difference being is that to him, I'm a person. To you, I'm just non PC and despite not saying one word against gays, I got it with both barrels for using what was, in your mind, an "improper term." I can't believe you apologized to the mods but blamed me for your behavior. You are being completely negative and unreasonable about this.

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No. The AIDS virus is not remotely as contagious as the ebola virus. Name a health care worker who ever came down with AIDS from treating an AIDS patient with standard universal precautions. Or even without them. Name ONE person who came down with aids from casually touching an AIDS victim. Doesn't happen.I never said it did.

I never said it did.

Yes, I know. Just a turn of phrase. AIDS essentially destroys the immune system and makes people prone to opportunistic diseases. It doesn't like saliva and is a pretty fragile virus that isn't going to remain viable for any length of time in the open. It stays hidden in the body and once you are infected, there isn't really any cure - you just manage it as best you can by propping up your immune system. You are considered contageous, for life. Because it only spreads by intimate contact and you don't have sudden, violent symptoms from the virus, itself, it is much harder to get.

Ebola is an aggressive, virulent virus that seeks out hosts and destroys them. The incubation period is well known and it kills you, or you survive and become noninfectious in a matter of weeks/months. The symptoms of ebola (unlike AIDS) include high fever, projectile vomiting, explosive diarrhea and all manner of ways to infect others. It is how the virus finds a new host. If you have similar symptoms from AIDS, it is likely coming from an opportunistic disease rather than the AIDS virus, itself.

9400

Are we still sitting with a grand total of one death in the US?

Are we still sitting with a grand total of one death in the US?

Yes, and hopefully that will be the last.

I think that everyone needs to take just a moment to breathe a couple of breaths of Free American Air, enjoy the fact that Autumn is upon us, open a copy of one of those wonderful novels by that Scotsman from Botswana (or listen to the Novel on tape/cd/interstellar beaming/whatever) "The First Lady Detective Agency" and go down to stand in line for the Ebola Vaccine. Wouldn't that be grand? (c/o Billy Connolly and Billy Collins =)

Arguing over this stuff gets us nowhere . . . don't it?

(btw/fyi: I thought the bicycling health purveyor on the TV/IN (internet) news with possible ebola should have possibly been run over, but she was surrounded by the press and they would have been collateral damage to an unacceptable degree.) =)

Yes, I know. Just a turn of phrase. AIDS essentially destroys the immune system and makes people prone to opportunistic diseases. It doesn't like saliva and is a pretty fragile virus that isn't going to remain viable for any length of time in the open. It stays hidden in the body and once you are infected, there isn't really any cure - you just manage it as best you can by propping up your immune system. You are considered contageous, for life. Because it only spreads by intimate contact and you don't have sudden, violent symptoms from the virus, itself, it is much harder to get.

Ebola is an aggressive, virulent virus that seeks out hosts and destroys them. The incubation period is well known and it kills you, or you survive and become noninfectious in a matter of weeks/months. The symptoms of ebola (unlike AIDS) include high fever, projectile vomiting, explosive diarrhea and all manner of ways to infect others. It is how the virus finds a new host. If you have similar symptoms from AIDS, it is likely coming from an opportunistic disease rather than the AIDS virus, itself.

I, too, read "The Hot Zone".
I, too, appreciate The Quality of Quilts Well Made.
I also wonder why you seem to be "overconcerned" about this, most recent, threat to our personal (in the general sense of personal =), environment.

No Joke . .. I wonder . . .
(if adopted Canadians have the key . . . =)

6a6A6oTFdcw

For Clarification, Edited to Add: That vidclip was dedicated to all of the "Victims" of Quarantine

I think that everyone needs to take just a moment to breathe a couple of breaths of Free American Air, enjoy the fact that Autumn is upon us, open a copy of one of those wonderful novels by that Scotsman from Botswana (or listen to the Novel on tape/cd/interstellar beaming/whatever) "The First Lady Detective Agency" and go down to stand in line for the Ebola Vaccine. Wouldn't that be grand? (c/o Billy Connolly and Billy Collins =)

Arguing over this stuff gets us nowhere . . . don't it?

(btw/fyi: I thought the bicycling health purveyor on the TV/IN (internet) news with possible ebola should have possibly been run over, but she was surrounded by the press and they would have been collateral damage to an unacceptable degree.) =)correct me if I'm wrong on this, but wouldn't getting nowhere technically be getting somewhere? I mean if you're somewhere, and want to get to nowhere, you got there, which is somewhere. Just thinking out loud here.

correct me if I'm wrong on this, but wouldn't getting nowhere technically be getting somewhere? I mean if you're somewhere, and want to get to nowhere, you got there, which is somewhere. Just thinking out loud here.

Be careful. You'll get slammed for that.

correct me if I'm wrong on this, but wouldn't getting nowhere technically be getting somewhere? I mean if you're somewhere, and want to get to nowhere, you got there, which is somewhere. Just thinking out loud here.

You are exactly right. Therefore, no correction is necessary. Is it? =)
(hint: in real life, look for "the tell" in the actual response, then go for the sale . . . or the sail =),

(I like being Passive Progressive . . . =)

Sorry: This thread is about Ebola, Threat of. I digressed . . . sort of.
(no incoming flights from Africa. Three month quarantine.)
Suddenly "Open Borders" takes on an entirely new dimension of meaning . . .

You are exactly right. Therefore, no correction is necessary. Is it? =)
(hint: in real life, look for "the tell" in the actual response, then go for the sale . . . or the sail =),

(I like being Passive Progressive . . . =)

Sorry: This thread is about Ebola, Threat of. I digressed . . . sort of.
(no incoming flights from Africa. Three month quarantine.)
Suddenly "Open Borders" takes on an entirely new dimension of meaning . . .

I know. I wasn't texting and driving when I wrote that either, that you can belive. Well, I was driving. . . . my soul.

I know. I wasn't texting and driving when I wrote that either, that you can belive. Well, I was driving. . . . my soul.

The topic here is Ebola Virus.
(with a side of AIDS)
The learning might be as simple as what you just stated. =)
(all of us will go one way or another)
Hopefully not from Infectious Disease
(nor improper driving, etc......ad infinitum)

Consider yourself "slammed" (c/o Mel) =)

Just remember that we all share, and suffer, a terminal illness. It's called "life."

Good news - the NYC Hipster Doc is improving and his condition has been upgraded to stable. He isn't completely out of the woods but there is cause to be optimistic that he'll fully recover. He is young and strong and that's good. No word on his fiance currently in quarantine (or something). I haven't done the math but, hopefully, the highest risk period may have passed. Hope she will be okay.

Good news - the NYC Hipster Doc is improving and his condition has been upgraded to stable. He isn't completely out of the woods but there is cause to be optimistic that he'll fully recover. He is young and strong and that's good. No word on his fiance currently in quarantine (or something). I haven't done the math but, hopefully, the highest risk period may have passed. Hope she will be okay.

Did the "Hipster Doc" have to put on looser pants? Or wear differently shaped glasses? I hope not.
Have "They" returned his bongos and beret? =)

I hope they have quarantined his stethoscope and that weird mirror thing on their heads that they used to be required to wear for further observation . . . =)

(I hope you know that I'm not needling you, Penny. you are one of my favorite people.)

Did the "Hipster Doc" have to put on looser pants? Or wear differently shaped glasses? I hope not.
Have "They" returned his bongos and beret? =)

I hope they have quarantined his stethoscope and that weird mirror thing on their heads that they used to be required to wear for further observation . . . =)

(I hope you know that I'm not needling you, Penny. you are one of my favorite people.)

I didn't come up with the term. The very bad joke up in NYC was the hope that his pre-ebola meanderings to so many hipster hotspots would eradicate the city of the hipster pestulance. Depending on your sense of humor or whether you were a hipster or considered them a plague on the city, some were furious and some thought it was hilarious. Hipster Doc is just the handle he got tagged with.

Good news - the NYC Hipster Doc is improving and his condition has been upgraded to stable. He isn't completely out of the woods but there is cause to be optimistic that he'll fully recover. He is young and strong and that's good. No word on his fiance currently in quarantine (or something). I haven't done the math but, hopefully, the highest risk period may have passed. Hope she will be okay.

I listen to Sirius XM radio in the car. Channel 82 is Doctor Radio and they broadcast from the lobby of the NYC Langone Medical Center. On Thursday, they had a show about Ebola. They said that the biggest problem in the US with regard to Ebola has been the irresponsible coverage of the media. They mentioned that as they spoke on the radio, there were no less than 10 satellite trucks parked in the hospital parking lot.

I listen to Sirius XM radio in the car. Channel 82 is Doctor Radio and they broadcast from the lobby of the NYC Langone Medical Center. On Thursday, they had a show about Ebola. They said that the biggest problem in the US with regard to Ebola has been the irresponsible coverage of the media. They mentioned that as they spoke on the radio, there were no less than 10 satellite trucks parked in the hospital parking lot.

Not just the media, irresponsible stuff gets put on message boards too.

Mistake

State officials developing specialized unit for any future Ebola cases in Oklahoma | News OK (http://newsok.com/state-officials-developing-specialized-unit-for-any-future-ebola-cases-in-oklahoma/article/5362400)

As I work at OU Medical Center, I saw an internal announcement about this yesterday (Friday 10/31). The "decomissioned hospital building" referred to in TFA is Garrison Tower, part of the old Children's Hospital building complex. Children's inpatient services moved to the old Universtiy Hospital building in 2007, and outpatient services moved out in 2009. The state has been slowly converting the building to office use, but there are still some untouched patient spaces left, with intact medical gas lines, generator power, etc., and the building itself is still in good shape. If we're going to build a biocontainment unit, this is a good place to put it, away fom regular patient services, but in close proximity to a major medical center. Hopefully, it'll never be put to use.

The only downside is, my office is in this building (no kidding).

I know. I wasn't texting and driving when I wrote that either, that you can belive.
Well, I was driving. . . . my soul.
When we were visiting a couple of weeks ago you didn't even have your
phone turned on!

I listen to Sirius XM radio in the car. Channel 82 is Doctor Radio and they broadcast from the lobby of the NYC Langone Medical Center. On Thursday, they had a show about Ebola. They said that the biggest problem in the US with regard to Ebola has been the irresponsible coverage of the media. They mentioned that as they spoke on the radio, there were no less than 10 satellite trucks parked in the hospital parking lot.

I used to listen to Sirrius XM Radio . . . But I switched to CareFree YN Radio.
And I feel good about it. =)
So far, I'm Ebola Free and counting on it.

More good news - in addition to the first Texas nurse's dog, all the folks in Ohio being monitored because the second Texas nurse exposed them during her trip up north are also deemed in the clear.

More good news - in addition to the first Texas nurse's dog, all the folks in Ohio being monitored because the second Texas nurse exposed them during her trip up north are also deemed in the clear.

Can you expose people to Ebola if you don't have it?

Not just the media, irresponsible stuff gets put on message boards too.

Understatement post of the year! :D

More good news - in addition to the first Texas nurse's dog, all the folks in Ohio
being monitored because the second Texas nurse exposed them during her trip
up north are also deemed in the clear.
That IS good news. I believe this was blown out of proportion in order to pay
advertisers and sponserships. Not that this isn't serious. It is. The left wing
media have to create sensationalism in order to pay their bills. It's a survival
thing.

I used to listen to Sirrius XM Radio . . . But I switched to CareFree YN Radio.
And I feel good about it. =)
So far, I'm Ebola Free and counting on it.
I listen to Pandora. So far it's been commercial free even though I'm not
paying extra. I believe commercials are worse than ebola.

Can you expose people to Ebola if you don't have it?

I don't think they knew that at the time she was considered to be 'exposing' people to it.

I don't think they knew that at the time she was considered to be 'exposing' people to it.

Did she have any of the symptoms of having Ebola?

That IS good news. I believe this was blown out of proportion in order to pay
advertisers and sponserships. Not that this isn't serious. It is. The left wing
media have to create sensationalism in order to pay their bills. It's a survival
thing.

Could Ebola virus become ?bioterrorist threat?? | Fox News (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/10/03/could-ebola-virus-become-bioterrorist-threat/)

Ebola Map - Track the spread of Ebola | Fox News (http://www.foxnews.com/health/2014-ebola-outbreak-map)

Spanish Intelligence Intercepts Plot to Weaponise Ebola (http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/10/30/Ebola-Weaponisation-Spain-Blackmail-Prague)

and a few thousand more available

"Timmy, why did you hit your brother?"

"He hit me too!"

I stopped taking that excuse from my kids when they were 5.

"Timmy, why did you hit your brother?"

"He hit me too!"

I stopped taking that excuse from my kids when they were 5.

and that has what to do with the conversation?

The left wing media have to create sensationalism in order to pay their bills. It's a survival thing.And applies equally to the right and center wings of the media, although they're almost too tiny to cause much concern...

I, too, read "The Hot Zone".
I, too, appreciate The Quality of Quilts Well Made.
I also wonder why you seem to be "overconcerned" about this, most recent, threat to our personal (in the general sense of personal =), environment.

No Joke . .. I wonder . . .
(if adopted Canadians have the key . . . =)

6a6A6oTFdcw

For Clarification, Edited to Add: That vidclip was dedicated to all of the "Victims" of Quarantine

Hmm. I think it is interesting and have a special interest in health related public policy, perhaps a residual from my days representing hospitals and community based treatment centers. It certainly is not related to any personal fear of exposure as I've stated multiple times. Nor have I taken a position in favor of "quarantine" though you wouldn't know that if you got caught up in some of the hysteria of our fellow posters. A review of my actual comments reveal that I think isolation in the home (within reason) and avoidance of public transportation or public areas (along with monitoring by neutral parties) is a good compromise. There is a huge public expense in tracking if they fall ill, this compromise shields private companies from ruinous associated costs that accompany the panic that comes about if the person gets sick, and communities bear the cost of panic in terms of loss of commerce.

The utopia folks Think scolding will avoid all that. I'm a bit more practical, perhaps as a result of life experience where I've actually dealt with real people - and believe me, real people panic until and unless their experience shows them otherwise. Scolding in an era when the government has done nothing but screw up only works for a select few predesposed for whatever reason to accept it.

Coincidentally, I've wondered why you've repeatedly commented and monitored my posts on this thread as if you don't approve or are concerned that I'm interested. Many have been determined to assume anything other than a cry for open borders and any restrictions on movement are evidence of panic, anti science or fear mongering. There is no talking them out of that and many apparently enjoy believing they are the coolest heads in the room. For that, they need a group to define as panicky or it all falls apart. Too bad they won't tolerate anyone who doesn't fit a unilateral narrative. But such is life.

Did she have any of the symptoms of having Ebola?It was my understanding they were just erring on the safe side and she didn't show any symptoms.

Hmm. I think it is interesting and have a special interest in health related public policy, perhaps a residual from my days representing hospitals and community based treatment centers. It certainly is not related to any personal fear of exposure as I've stated multiple times. Nor have I taken a position in favor of "quarantine" though you wouldn't know that if you got caught up in some of the hysteria of our fellow posters. A review of my actual comments reveal that I think isolation in the home (within reason) and avoidance of public transportation or public areas (along with monitoring by neutral parties) is a good compromise. There is a huge public expense in tracking if they fall ill, this compromise shields private companies from ruinous associated costs that accompany the panic that comes about if the person gets sick, and communities bear the cost of panic in terms of loss of commerce.

The utopia folks Think scolding will avoid all that. I'm a bit more practical, perhaps as a result of life experience where I've actually dealt with real people - and believe me, real people panic until and unless their experience shows them otherwise. Scolding in an era when the government has done nothing but screw up only works for a select few predesposed for whatever reason to accept it.

Coincidentally, I've wondered why you've repeatedly commented and monitored my posts on this thread as if you don't approve or are concerned that I'm interested. Many have been determined to assume anything other than a cry for open borders and any restrictions on movement are evidence of panic, anti science or fear mongering. There is no talking them out of that and many apparently enjoy believing they are the coolest heads in the room. For that, they need a group to define as panicky or it all falls apart. Too bad they won't tolerate anyone who doesn't fit a unilateral narrative. But such is life.

http://m.goingconcern.com/sites/default/files/styles/standard/public/post/snl_really.jpg?itok=j_SkYoKU

Really.

It was my understanding they were just erring on the safe side and she didn't show any symptoms.

again you can't effect people unless you have active symptoms so she wasn't exposing anybody no matter what PQ says.

State Designates Ebola Treatment Facility In OKC - News9.com - Oklahoma City, OK - News, Weather, Video and Sports | (http://www.news9.com/story/27260707/state-designates-ebola-treatment-facility-in-okc)

Could Ebola virus become ?bioterrorist threat?? | Fox News (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/10/03/could-ebola-virus-become-bioterrorist-threat/)

Ebola Map - Track the spread of Ebola | Fox News (http://www.foxnews.com/health/2014-ebola-outbreak-map)

Spanish Intelligence Intercepts Plot to Weaponise Ebola (http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/10/30/Ebola-Weaponisation-Spain-Blackmail-Prague)

and a few thousand more available

There are plenty other things that would be a bigger real threat, though they hype might interest people trying to cause panics, the media is certainly willing to help spread fear for the ratings

U.S. doctor free of Ebola ? turn focus back to West Africa | KFOR.com (http://kfor.com/2014/11/11/u-s-doctor-free-of-ebola-turn-focus-back-to-west-africa/)