So, the opening of any applications is today at 10AM.

I'm sure Steve Lackmeyer will be at the meeting and I've asked OCURA to send me the electronic applications as soon as they are made public.

We should have good information very soon.

Do we know how many submissions were made?

Do we know how many submissions were made?

No, that is not revealed in advance.

There was talk of a locals submitting in addition to Clayco but I know one prominent group passed because the 60 day window did not give them enough time to do meaningful analysis.

Residential towers proposed by two firms for property south of former Stage Center site | News OK (http://newsok.com/residential-towers-proposed-by-two-firms-for-property-south-of-former-stage-center-site/article/5349013)

Wow! A little variety would be nice, but very classy.

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Is this real life?

Four towers. Not bad.

I said it before and I'l say it again.. Sweet!

To summarize:

Clayco:
North parcel: 25 story office tower (OG&E), 26 story residential
South parcel: 26 story office tower, 25 story residential
Also has small law office parcel under contract

Milhaus (developer of LIFT):
South parcel only: 20 story residential / commerical with parking

n/m, read the report too fast

Why is the Preftakes block leveled?

I know we're already talking about this in the Stage Center thread, but I feel like we should move the discussion here.

Residential towers proposed by two firms for property south of former Stage Center site | News OK (http://newsok.com/residential-towers-proposed-by-two-firms-for-property-south-of-former-stage-center-site/article/5349013)


So the Clayco proposal is actually for FOUR buildings!

What's up with that Milhaus proposal though? Looks like they ran out of time to scrap a real idea together. Or was it created just so there are supposedly two options to choose from?

Wait, so is that 4 towers on JUST the south block? Not including the demolished stage center north portion where OGE/Rainey plans to build?

No, read my post above yours.

Under the Clayco proposal the old Stage Center site is the North Parcel and it will have a 25 and 26 story building; same as the South Parcel.

Clayco will build on the North Parcel regardless of what happens on the South Parcel, which could still be awarded to Milhaus (unlikely).

World Class at that ! Yes RAMSA !

These should be around 450 feet.

Without seeing the detailed plans. I like it, I love the design. I love the California ROW is preserved. I hate the sky walk between the two blocks. Oh well, can't win them all. Would like to see some site plans and more renderings. Looks good though.

It appears that the North Parcel building bordering the park (OG&E Tower) is 26 stories and the South Parcel building bordering the park would be a 26-story residential structure.

The behind (west) each of these: North Parcel 25-story residential and South Parcel 25-story office.

So if Milhaus isn't awarded the contract, will the proposal by Clayco dry up all of the forecasted demand for residential, parking & commercial? Or do you think they will actively pursue another close by location?

So basically the north parcel is guaranteed to be two towers, but the south parcel could still be awarded to Milhaus who would build a single tower instead of two?

So basically the north parcel is guaranteed to be two towers, but the south parcel could still be awarded to Milhaus who would build a single tower instead of two?

I would be disappointed if Milhaus got the go ahead. 2 is better than 1 :)

So basically the north parcel is guaranteed to be two towers, but the south parcel could still be awarded to Milhaus who would build a single tower instead of two?


I would say Milhaus has a very tiny chance of getting it. They most likely made a proposal just in case Clayco got ruled out on a technicality or mistake on Clayco's part (failing to deliver the packet on time).

I know we're already talking about this in the Stage Center thread, but I feel like we should move the discussion here.

Residential towers proposed by two firms for property south of former Stage Center site | News OK (http://newsok.com/residential-towers-proposed-by-two-firms-for-property-south-of-former-stage-center-site/article/5349013)


So the Clayco proposal is actually for FOUR buildings!

What's up with that Milhaus proposal though? Looks like they ran out of time to scrap a real idea together. Or was it created just so there are supposedly two options to choose from?

The Milhaus is for the south of Stage Center site and this one is for the Stage Center site. While this one (OG&E Tower) I completely blown away and enamored with, I feel a little let down by the other one (Milhaus). It looks like the old Oklahoman building on Broadway Extension which I never liked the looks of. Hopefully this is just preliminary and the final product will be much more attractive.

I love Claycos designs.

This is the Clayco proposal; they would build on the Stage Center site regardless of who is awarded the south parcel:

http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/stagenew1.jpg

Pete, get a Facebook post up so I can share it

This is too good to be true. I'm baffled right now...

I've got the full applications.

Give me a few minutes to get some images up.

Pete, with todays modern floorplates and construction, how tall would you guess these 4 towers to be?

The Milhaus is for the south of Stage Center site and this one is for the Stage Center site. While this one (OG&E Tower) I completely blown away and enamored with, I feel a little let down by the other one (Milhaus). It looks like the old Oklahoman building on Broadway Extension which I never liked the looks of. Hopefully this is just preliminary and the final product will be much more attractive.

The renderings show that Milhaus's proposal overlaps with the southern part of Clayco's proposal.

The renderings show that both proposals overlap each other.

Correct. It will be Clayco or Milhaus for the block south of California, not both.

So basically the north parcel is guaranteed to be two towers, but the south parcel could still be awarded to Milhaus who would build a single tower instead of two?

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http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/stagenew2.jpg


http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/stagenew3.jpg


http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/stagenew4.jpg

I'm going to digest this for a bit before I make a full commentary. At first blush I'm really pleased with what I see from Clayco. Milhaus, not so much.

The renderings show that Milhaus's proposal overlaps with the southern part of Clayco's proposal.

You are correct. I was not looking at the renderings correctly. I was thinking the Clayco design was for the entire SC site and the Milhaus was for the block south of Stage Center. My mistake.

I'm going to digest this for a bit before I make a full commentary. At first blush I'm really pleased with what I see from Clayco. Milhaus, not so much.

+1

To correct what I posted earlier, this siteplan shows the two buildings facing the park will be office:

http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/stagenew5.jpg

Pete, with todays modern floorplates and construction, how tall would you guess these 4 towers to be?

Based on 15'-18' floor-to-floor heights, roughly 400'-475'. With the extra toppings, they might could reach 500'.

Shooting from the hip, of course.

Check this out... Shows new buildings on the Preftakes block:

http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/stagenew6.jpg

Oh my god. Those are sexy! Yes please!

Very cool. Do you think Clayco is involved with the Preftakes block as well? Or are they just putting some massing in there because they know someone is working on something?

http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/stagenew7.jpg

http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/stagenew8.jpg

http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/stagenew9.jpg

Well this was worth the wait.

Pete, the image on the right in the post above makes me think of the old SNES video game Sim City.

http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/stagenew10.jpg

Pretty much everything I was hoping for once we found out about Clayco's involvement and I glanced through their online portfolio.

In all the renderings above it looks like there are only three towers. Is that just the angle or am I missing something?

This is just awesome. I have so much pride for OKC!

Believe this drawing shows the taller structures to be 391 feet:

http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/stagenew11.jpg

What is the timeline for the decision?

In all the renderings above it looks like there are only three towers. Is that just the angle or am I missing something?

Just the angle. Can only see three in any one view but they are all there.

In all the renderings above it looks like there are only three towers. Is that just the angle or am I missing something?

It's just the angle, but all four are visible once you think about the perspective. This one is from over the Gardens:

http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/stagenew3.jpg

And this one is from the perspective of the Devon complex:

http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/stagenew4.jpg

Congrats OKC!! What a wonderful development that every city in the nation would love to have.

Clayco for the win! I just wish they had residential abutting the Gardens.

Awesome!! I'd love to see a rendering of the entire skyline with these added in. Even at ~400' it'll help to balance out the skyline when looking from the east and west.

In all the renderings above it looks like there are only three towers. Is that just the angle or am I missing something?

Just the angle.

Reminds me a little bit of Rockefeller Center. It's a little bit plaza-happy, but love the mixed use, and man is it nice to look at.

Time frame (start construction / finish construction):

OG&E Officer Tower: MAR 15 / APR 17
North Residential: APR 15 / JUL 16

South Office Tower: JUL 15 / JUL 17
South Residential: FEB 16 / JUL 17

So, basically the same height as the Sandridge tower. This will really help out okc's skyline.

Check this out... Shows new buildings on the Preftakes block:

http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/stagenew6.jpg
Most interesting. Surely it wasn't an oversight that those slipped in there. I wonder what they were trying to communicate. Trial balloon to check everyone's temperature and soften them up for the demos this would entail?

Who is the person who does the renderings of what the whole skyline would look like in 3D? Get that guy in here...

And no hotel. That is good for the viability of the CC hotel of 800 rooms. One more tower for the area.

And no hotel. That is good for the viability of the CC hotel of 800 rooms. One more tower for the area.

Great point.