https://twitter.com/tiffanyalaniz/status/1260557510668365824?s=21

I'd bet Elon took several calls from Governors the last couple of days trying to lure them to the state.

Well at least Oklahoma is trying.

One idea for a Giga Truck factory is that it is built on I-44 between Tulsa and OKC being midway and less than a 50 minute drive between each city. For anyone thinking that is too far remember that commute times with these centers located in major cities can easily be twice that.

Well at least Oklahoma is trying.

One idea for a Giga Truck factory is that it is built on I-44 between Tulsa and OKC being midway and less than a 50 minute drive between each city. For anyone thinking that is too far remember that commute times with these centers located in major cities can easily be twice that.

The only big advantage is if the company needs a lot of land to build on priced cheap.

The only big advantage is if the company needs a lot of land to build on priced cheap.
I know I’m dwelling completely into fantasy territory here if I wasn’t already there but this could further be reason to run a rail line down the ROW of I-44 connecting OKC and Tulsa maintaining an average speed of 110-120 MPH. A theoretical stop could be in the middle at a Tesla factory. Not to mention we already have commuter service between the two cities via bus.

It could even entertain the idea of a super airport between the two cities which could needed a few decades down the road if OKC and Tulsa truly take off.

Lots of great possibilities for a real rail connection between the two cities.

It's surely more realistic for a Tesla plant or mega airport to be built between San Antonio and Austin.

It's surely more realistic for a Tesla plant or mega airport to be built between San Antonio and Austin.
I am not sure about airport needs but Austin has some good connections. The best thing about combined air travel from OKC and Tulsa is more connections for both cities but the issue boils down to driving distance and a costly HSR system which is a non-starter.

I highly suspect Tesla moves to Austin possibly both of its operations.

Musk is building the Gigafactory in Austin per reports.

Musk is building the Gigafactory in Austin per reports.

Tulsa also in the mix https://www.dallasnews.com/business/technology/2020/05/15/report-tesla-to-build-factory-in-austin-and-produce-model-y-vehicles-by-end-of-2020/

10,000 jobs would be incredible for the state not to mention Tulsa.

We need to get Texas to piss off Elon otherwise if he says he wants it in Texas he usually gets his way. We dont even have a service station for Tesla in Oklahoma, I don't expect to get a factory.

This would probably push Tulsa ahead of OKC, wouldn't it? Do we really need Tulsa getting ahead of OKC?

It won't be Tulsa, but good on the city and state for trying.

This would probably push Tulsa ahead of OKC, wouldn't it? Do we really need Tulsa getting ahead of OKC?Does it matter?

This would probably push Tulsa ahead of OKC, wouldn't it? Do we really need Tulsa getting ahead of OKC?

Probably Tulsa is so far behind it wouldn't quite be ahead. At any rate it's what Oklahoma as a state needs. If a backward state like Alabama can have a car production plant, why can't Oklahoma, which has had one before? Texas doesn't seem all that super. The article said Texas has been passed over for Tesla facilities in the past.

Does it matter?

Selfishly, yes. I like that OKC has gotten positive publicity recently. But something like that would shift all focus from OKC to Tulsa, leaving people with the old negative views of OKC.

Selfishly, yes. I like that OKC has gotten positive publicity recently. But something like that would shift all focus from OKC to Tulsa, leaving people with the old negative views of OKC.
Tulsa as a whole is extremely unimpressive to me as it is tiny but they do well with a specific part of their city and it looks good to outsiders. OKC still doesn’t have a large swath of city with expensive homes, shops, divided streets, nicely decorated highways.

If Tulsa somehow managed to get this, it would be great for the entire state not just Tulsa.

10,000 jobs would be incredible for the state not to mention Tulsa.

The sheer tax revenue coming to 23rd would be insane. Not to mention supply chain coming to Tulsa, but OKC would grab some as well. All 4 mega cities in Texas feed off each, they compete but also compliment. Same thing here

Probably Tulsa is so far behind it wouldn't quite be ahead. At any rate it's what Oklahoma as a state needs. If a backward state like Alabama can have a car production plant, why can't Oklahoma, which has had one before? Texas doesn't seem all that super. The article said Texas has been passed over for Tesla facilities in the past.
Alabama also has an Airbus airplane manufacturing plant. For a backwards state, that's a hell of a thing to have.

Alabama really has a pretty good aerospace and space industry.

Make my words: Oklahoma is going to become a major player. I just feel it. We probably won’t land this Tesla factory but that isn’t the endgame.

Alabama really has a pretty good aerospace and space industry.

Make my words: Oklahoma is going to become a major player. I just feel it. We probably won’t land this Tesla factory but that isn’t the endgame.

Oklahoma is no slouch when it comes to aerospace either. If combined with Wichita it is one of the biggest industry clusters in the US.

https://www.bls.gov/oes/current/se173021.png

I'd bet Elon took several calls from Governors the last couple of days trying to lure them to the state.

Upon further review that Stitt phone call wasn’t just a please please please come here pitch lol

Alabama really has a pretty good aerospace and space industry.

Make my words: Oklahoma is going to become a major player. I just feel it. We probably won’t land this Tesla factory but that isn’t the endgame.
Well, yeah, other companies looking to expand will wonder why Musk picked Tulsa as a finalist, rather than Omaha, Kansas City, Memphis and a bunch of other places in the mid section.

Upon further review that Stitt phone call wasn’t just a please please please come here pitch lol

I'm happy to see that. Would be awesome for the state to get this plant.

This would probably push Tulsa ahead of OKC, wouldn't it? Do we really need Tulsa getting ahead of OKC?

There honestly is no benefit to a state as small as Oklahoma being divided against itself. Especially when the rival cities are less than 2 hours apart.

I think it's good that Tulsa gets this. The local populace is so desperate for a big get, it's not gonna matter whatever astronomical concessions Musk demands. I may be just basing this off of their reputation in sports and the arts, but it seems that Tulsa's local education is better than OKC's, so they have a better chance of retaining the talent needed, which has always been my concern with OKC trying to lure big tech.

Reducing Texas's gravity on Oklahoma is always a great thing. Hoping Tulsa is able to pull this off!

I don't think if Tulsa gets this it puts Tulsa over OKC. Just the benefit to Tulsa is probably not enough, forget the fact that it will also improve OKC/OK as a whole.

Either way, whether it be Tulsa or OKC, we're at a place in history where both need to propel the state to something better or we're going to find the next 50 years to be increasingly stagnant and "hopeless"

I don’t think you guys understand the amount of additional supply chain that comes with this deal in order to get a piece of Tesla’s business. OKC would 100% capture some of that. The idling ready to go, class A industrial space, available in the okc metro because of the oil crash, would be leased up quicker than you can blink.

I don't understand the phrase "push Tulsa ahead of OKC." What does "ahead" mean? By some measurements, Tulsa could be considered "ahead" right now. By many other measurements, it's OKC. And people will decide that based on whatever criteria they deem important.

My preference is always OKC. But if the choice for this factory is between Tulsa and Austin, I'll choose Tulsa every day and twice on Sunday.

If we're really going to worry about it, though, and if we really think Tulsa and OKC should be competing on these things, (which I don't know that we should be, but whatever) we should ask: Did the city of Tulsa and the city of OKC each submit some kind of proposal? If so, we should compare those proposals on the merits. What was Tesla's criteria? What is it that Tulsa got right in its bid? OKC officials should study that if we want to learn some lessons. Of course, every economic development deal is different, so the lessons will only go so far.

Mayor G.T. Bynum talks about why Tesla might choose Tulsa for its 'Cybertruck Gigafactory' https://www.tulsaworld.com/news/local/government-and-politics/mayor-g-t-bynum-talks-about-why-tesla-might-choose-tulsa-for-its-cybertruck-gigafactory/article_89b4de47-ece0-583d-8e84-dd683faff645.html#2

I thought this was interesting. I've always thought about retail in downtown areas, this report measures it scientifically:

http://cityobservatory.org/the-storefront-index/

OKC is third to last, not surprising. (St. Louis is second to last, also not that surprising). Kind of fun to go to the maps and drill down.

Oklahoma City unemployment rate for April was 14.8%. Tulsa was at 15% and Lawton was at 19%. The national rate was 14.4%.

https://www.tulsaworld.com/business/tulsa-metro-area-jobless-rate-increases-from-2-8-to-15-from-march-to-april/article_a19c6e84-9781-5dab-b263-f5e632e7fd68.html

Los Angeles, the 2nd biggest city in the country, is at 24 percent.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-05-09/l-a-unemployment-rate-hits-stunning-24-these-are-our-neighbors-and-theyre-hurting-garcetti-says%3f_amp=true

Oklahoma City unemployment rate for April was 14.8%. Tulsa was at 15% and Lawton was at 19%. The national rate was 14.4%.

https://www.tulsaworld.com/business/tulsa-metro-area-jobless-rate-increases-from-2-8-to-15-from-march-to-april/article_a19c6e84-9781-5dab-b263-f5e632e7fd68.html

In Oklahoma, the unemployment rates in rural counties are not as bad, for instance Payne County: 12.7%., Garfield County: 11.4%.

Los Angeles, the 2nd biggest city in the country, is at 24 percent.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-05-09/l-a-unemployment-rate-hits-stunning-24-these-are-our-neighbors-and-theyre-hurting-garcetti-says%3f_amp=true

They got hit especially hard. Lot of people driver uber/wait tables and work in the film production business. (Lighting, sound, make-up, etc etc)

Is there a place I could look up changes in property cost vs time by zip code?

“ NORTH STAR SCIENTIFIC TO OPEN AEROSPACE MANUFACTURING OPERATION IN OKLAHOMA CITY

North Star Scientific (NSS) Corporation, a Hawaii-based company, has announced plans to expand to Oklahoma City. The company plans to start operations in January with approximately five employees and will ramp up to 40 jobs once its manufacturing site is fully operational.“

Read more here:

https://www.velocityokc.com/blog/economy/north-star-scientific-to-open-aerospace-manufacturing-operation-in-oklahoma-city/?back=super_blog

Good news for OKC and the state:

https://www.velocityokc.com/blog/economy/oklahoma-ranks-no.-3-for-economic-outlook/?back=super_blog

Is there a place I could look up changes in property cost vs time by zip code?

County assessor site shows each property and is sale history, as well as assessed values over time. Easy to navigate.

Is there a place I could look up changes in property cost vs time by zip code?

What kind of property? Residential or commercial? If residential, yes. The US Census Bureau tracks home value by zip code. Though it only applies to owner-occupied single-family housing.

Good news for OKC and the state:

https://www.velocityokc.com/blog/economy/oklahoma-ranks-no.-3-for-economic-outlook/?back=super_blog

It depends on your ideals, however... this ranking indexes states by comparing various data points, such as personal and corporate tax rates, minimum wage, whether or not the state has enacted right-to-work legislation... Reading between the lines, a higher ranking on this index equates to lower state tax revenues (affecting quality of state services), fewer state employees, lower minimum wages (states matching the fed minimum wage are ranked lower than states that mandate higher wages)... This is more of an index of states friendlier to businesses vs their citizens - at least in my personal opinion. You can view the full report, along with the metrics they track to determine their Economic Outlook Rank and how we compare to other states in their ranking here: https://www.richstatespoorstates.org/app/uploads/2021/05/2021-Rich-States-Poor-States-14th-Edition.pdf

A cool article with good news about the future of OKC’s and Oklahoma's economy as a whole:

https://www.automotiveworld.com/articles/spotlight-on-oklahoma-a-growing-hub-for-advanced-mobility/