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aviastar
07-03-2014, 06:24 PM
I am a fan of radio (kinda dopey, I know). My favorite formats are NPR, sports, and talk. Up here in KC one of our sports hosts talks fondly about Al Eschbach...I guess he worked in KC for about 15 minutes. Also in my office sometimes I stream the folks at KGOU, and I have also listened to Scott Mitchell in the AM on 1520. It's weird...sometimes I pick a city and tune into their local talk, sports, or NPR station because it gives me a feel for the area...I just like the medium. Also This Land Press (http://thislandpress.com/) has some really cool short segments on OK-related topics, but it's run out of Tulsa.

Any recommendations for other good stations in OKC? Are there any dedicated jazz stations? Any Spanish-language/Tejano music stations? Is the FM dial pretty generic non-local automated programming?

gjl
07-03-2014, 08:28 PM
Al Eschbach, The Legend of Radio, King of the Midgets, and World Champion at Free Cell. You can listen to him if you want on WWLS The Sports Animal Talk Radio (if you can stand him) either streaming it from their web site or on iHeart Radio from 4 to 8pm.

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bchris02
07-03-2014, 08:57 PM
OKC, unfortunately, is a Cumulus market. Cumulus is the epitome of everything wrong with corporate radio. They allow almost no control over what is broadcasted at the local level. On top of it all, everything is decided by one man, Jan Jeffries, who is very much out of touch. OKC radio used to be decent, but since Cumulus purchased Citadel its become terrible (though no different from any other Citadel/Cumulus market). I cannot think of a single station that is actually interesting.

If you like sports talk, you might like WWLS 98.1 The Sports Animal or the new station 107.1 The Franchise.

Jersey Boss
07-03-2014, 09:11 PM
Don't know if you dialed in KGOU on the weekends or not. Sat and Sun after 1, "Hard Luck Jim" comes on and does blues and jazz. For my money he is the best local jock on the air.

gjl
07-03-2014, 09:24 PM
OKC, unfortunately, is a Cumulus market. Cumulus is the epitome of everything wrong with corporate radio. They allow almost no control over what is broadcasted at the local level. On top of it all, everything is decided by one man, Jan Jeffries, who is very much out of touch. OKC radio used to be decent, but since Cumulus purchased Citadel its become terrible (though no different from any other Citadel/Cumulus market). I cannot think of a single station that is actually interesting.


If you like sports talk, you might like WWLS 98.1 The Sports Animal or the new station 107.1 The Franchise.

Would have never guessed you don't like OKC radio.

bchris02
07-03-2014, 09:29 PM
Would have never guessed you don't like OKC radio.

Who would if you don't care for sports talk or country?

RadicalModerate
07-03-2014, 09:31 PM
Don't know if you dialed in KGOU on the weekends or not. Sat and Sun after 1, "Hard Luck Jim" comes on and does blues and jazz. For my money he is the best local jock on the air.

Next to Hardluck Jim . . . I used to like Mark Shannon best.
Now I simply listen to any of the three Public Radio Stations no matter what is on any one of them.
Including, of course, that repository of diversity known as The Spy (c/o OSU)

Believe it or not, OKC has much better on-air broadcast choices than the entire State of Minnesota.
(really) (no kidding)
Plus our OETA and affiliate stations makes what they have up here look pathetic in comparison.
Sorry . . . this is about radio choices. not television stuff.

(p.s.: in person, Al Eschbach is more of a gentleman than a radio personality)

bchris02
07-03-2014, 09:32 PM
Next to Hardluck Jim . . . I used to like Mark Shannon best.
Now I simply listen to any of the three Public Radio Stations no matter what is one any of them.
Including, of course, that repository of diversity known as The Spy (c/o OSU)

Believe it or not, OKC has much better on-air broadcast choices than the entire State of Minnesota.
(really) (no kidding)
Plus our OETA and affiliate stations makes what they have up here look pathetic in comparison.
Sorry . . . this is about radio choices. not television stuff.

I can agree with that. Minneapolis has terrible radio stations.

Mel
07-03-2014, 09:36 PM
Way back when I was in the Air Force and stationed at Ellsworth I lived up in the Black Hills near Johnson Siding. At night I could pick up KOMA at night when the boosted there signal.

SOONER8693
07-03-2014, 11:33 PM
OKC, unfortunately, is a Cumulus market. Cumulus is the epitome of everything wrong with corporate radio. They allow almost no control over what is broadcasted at the local level. On top of it all, everything is decided by one man, Jan Jeffries, who is very much out of touch. OKC radio used to be decent, but since Cumulus purchased Citadel its become terrible (though no different from any other Citadel/Cumulus market). I cannot think of a single station that is actually interesting.

If you like sports talk, you might like WWLS 98.1 The Sports Animal or the new station 107.1 The Franchise.
Shocker.

Soonerman
07-03-2014, 11:46 PM
My only issue with OKC radio is that it's oversaturated with Classic Rock, Country, and Sports yapping. I've got nothing against those formats. I just wish they had a little more variety like a Jack FM or an Alternative station. I do love Classic Country though and KXY fits that bill well for me.

zookeeper
07-03-2014, 11:48 PM
I know that Tyler Media has ruined once dominant KOMA. What are the ratings in OKC now anyway?

KOMA. They are not Classic Rock or Classic Top-40, but are Classic Hits. This means they try to please everyone. You get Bon Jovi's "Livin' On a Prayer" followed by Olivia Newton-John and John Travolta. Someone also needs to tell them The Police had more hits than just "Don't Stand So Close To Me." I swear, I hear that every. single. day.

For me, the personalities make KOMA and without Ronnie in the afternoon and Fred at night, I wouldn't bother listening with so many other options.

Achilleslastand
07-04-2014, 01:22 AM
I know that Tyler Media has ruined once dominant KOMA. What are the ratings in OKC now anyway?

KOMA. They are not Classic Rock or Classic Top-40, but are Classic Hits. This means they try to please everyone. You get Bon Jovi's "Livin' On a Prayer" followed by Olivia Newton-John and John Travolta. Someone also needs to tell them The Police had more hits than just "Don't Stand So Close To Me." I swear, I hear that every. single. day.

For me, the personalities make KOMA and without Ronnie in the afternoon and Fred at night, I wouldn't bother listening with so many other options.

Tell me about it.....
Listening to them in a day you might hear...
Thin Lizzy
The Eagles
Aerosmith
Whitney Houston
Rod Stewart
The Police
Men without Hats
Dire Straits
Loverboy
I called Ronny one afternoon and told him you play pretty much every thing under the sun except Led Zeppelin. I didn't get a direct answer from him as to why they didn't only "if we did what song would you wanna hear". Anyways I guess everything is fine as long as I keep winning free steak dinners from him.

KenRagsdale
07-04-2014, 08:23 AM
I can agree with that. Minneapolis has terrible radio stations.

830, WCCO, Minneapolis-St. Paul, is a very fine radio station.

KenRagsdale
07-04-2014, 08:27 AM
I know that Tyler Media has ruined once dominant KOMA. What are the ratings in OKC now anyway?

KOMA. They are not Classic Rock or Classic Top-40, but are Classic Hits. This means they try to please everyone. You get Bon Jovi's "Livin' On a Prayer" followed by Olivia Newton-John and John Travolta. Someone also needs to tell them The Police had more hits than just "Don't Stand So Close To Me." I swear, I hear that every. single. day.

For me, the personalities make KOMA and without Ronnie in the afternoon and Fred at night, I wouldn't bother listening with so many other options.

The original 1520-KOMA demographic is aging. What started with "greatest hits of the 50's and 60's," evolved to "greatest hits of the 60's and 70's," and now, of course, is simply "greatest hits." Your best bet would be to obtain a "Sirius" subscription.

Urbanized
07-04-2014, 08:33 AM
Wow! People still listen to terrestrial radio?

Uncle Slayton
07-04-2014, 08:38 AM
I'd settle for a classic rock station that doesn't bleep lines from songs like "we've been up and down this highway, haven't seen a g*ddamn thing" or "don't wanna get caught up in any of that funky s**t going down in the city". BOB does that, drives me nuts.

An FM talk station (conservative, of course) that carries the big three on weekdays so I'm not stuck with KTOK in an office that sounds like a World War II broadcast in terms of reception and clarity would be nice.

I miss Mark Shannon during afternoon drive time, and don't listen to the morning blather.

Come to think of it, maybe it's time to get Sirius about radio...

OkieHornet
07-04-2014, 08:40 AM
invest in satellite radio. depending on if your car radio is already equipped or not, you can get a subscription for around $10-11/month. best $$$ you'll spend. the music variety is unequaled and you won't complain again about radio.

aviastar
07-04-2014, 09:06 AM
invest in satellite radio. depending on if your car radio is already equipped or not, you can get a subscription for around $10-11/month. best $$$ you'll spend. the music variety is unequaled and you won't complain again about radio.

I prefer the local flavor. I had satellite and I didn't like it. The politics talk was way too preachy to the choir (both left/right stations were so incredibly partisan), the sports talk was not local, and the NPR offering on SiriusXM was basically them just playing Fresh Air over and over. I had satellite for 3 months after we purchased our new car and didn't renew at the end of the trial period.

trousers
07-04-2014, 10:38 AM
I listen to the two NPR stations, slightly different schedules. Really like the SPY when it kicks in after 7 pm.

boscorama
07-04-2014, 10:16 PM
Does True Oldies Channel still have any presence in OKC?

bchris02
07-04-2014, 10:23 PM
Does True Oldies Channel still have any presence in OKC?

No, they changed to country late last year as 99.7 Hank FM. OKC radio desperate needs more variety. If you don't like country, classic rock, or sports talk, it's pretty much impossible to live with terrestrial radio in this town. It used to be pretty decent in the early 2000s.

Bellaboo
07-04-2014, 11:42 PM
Al Eschbach, The Legend of Radio, King of the Midgets, and World Champion at Free Cell. You can listen to him if you want on WWLS The Sports Animal Talk Radio (if you can stand him) either streaming it from their web site or on iHeart Radio from 4 to 8pm.

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This ^^^ I quit listening to Al when he was smacking on some ribs during a broadcast..... that was too much.

tfvc.org
07-05-2014, 11:30 PM
The only station I can stand to listen to is the comedy one, if that is not on then I have switched to music on my thumb drive.

bchris02
07-06-2014, 12:43 AM
As far as the terrestrial stations in OKC, here is what I have programmed in on my dial.

Now 96.5 - Great sounding station but unfortunately terrible signal and usually suffers bleed-in from Mix 96.5 in Tulsa. I like the station because it doesn't shy away from the rhythmic side of the Top 40 spectrum like today's KJ does. They are also very strong on new/current music.

Wild 104.9 - Used to be one of the best sounding stations in the US back when programmed locally and owned by Citadel. Today, it is using a nationally syndicated playlist that you hear on all Cumulus rhythmic stations nationwide. The problem with that playlist is that it is extremely conservative, late on adding new music, and they continue to overplay songs years after normal Top 40 stations have stopped playing them.

KJ 103 - The only Top 40 station in OKC that has a decent signal. It's also the most bland and I don't generally listen except on weekend nights when they have EDM mixes

Power 103.5 - Love this station but it's tower is out west of Anadarko and it has very spotty coverage over OKC. Some days I can get it just fine but other days get only static depending on the weather

KCSC Classical 90.1

Personally, I wish that Now 96.5 and Power 103.5 would be put on different signals to properly cover the OKC market. There are enough frequencies occupied by classic rock and country stations that it could probably be done pretty easily. Unfortunately nothing can be done to improve Cumulus stations like KKWD until Jan Jeffries returns control to the local PDs, which will probably never happen.

Soonerman
07-06-2014, 01:48 PM
Bchris, You might want to check this out,

Bye Bye Jan Jeffries | Inside Music Media (http://insidemusicmedia.com/bye-bye-jan-jeffries/)

Dubya61
07-07-2014, 02:14 PM
I don't hear the comedy radio on 92.9 FM any longer. I wonder what happened to it.

bchris02
07-07-2014, 05:49 PM
Bchris, You might want to check this out,

Bye Bye Jan Jeffries | Inside Music Media (http://insidemusicmedia.com/bye-bye-jan-jeffries/)

I wasn't aware of that. I know John Dickey has been involved for about a year now but didn't realize Jan no longer was calling the shots. From listening to KKWD, there definitely has NOT been a change so while somebody new may be making the decisions, they appear to be using the same rural market formula they've used since the cutover to the national playlist in late 2012. They are still playing songs that the rest of the world was hearing five years ago today like they are new.

bchris02
07-07-2014, 05:58 PM
I don't know why ClearChannel doesn't do something else with KBRU 94.7. It's failing in the very saturated Classic Rock format. It's the lowest-rated FM station in the market and has been for several quarters now. Do they even care?

theparkman81
07-07-2014, 06:57 PM
I don't know why ClearChannel doesn't do something else with KBRU 94.7. It's failing in the very saturated Classic Rock format. It's the lowest-rated FM station in the market and has been for several quarters now. Do they even care?

I agree, its time for a change at 94.7, but then again they always change formats on 94.7 what every 5 years lol, OKC radio needs to change.

tfvc.org
07-07-2014, 09:31 PM
I don't hear the comedy radio on 92.9 FM any longer. I wonder what happened to it.
It is still on the air, sometimes surrounding channels bleed into it.

zookeeper
07-07-2014, 10:46 PM
It is still on the air, sometimes surrounding channels bleed into it.

You hear more and more of that "bleeding FM stations" problem, exactly what wasn't supposed to happen with FM. The deregulation of radio has continued to where this kind of thing shows why regulations worked. Greedy lobbying prevailed in broadcasting beginning, especially, with the wave of deregulations around the middle '80s and it's ruined local radio - in so many ways.

Doc Searles said it best a few years ago...

“When I was coming up in radio, back in the Seventies, there were limits on broadcast property ownership. Back then, you could own seven AM , seven FM and seven TV stations: the ’7-7-7 rule.’ And in any one metropolitan area, you could own at most one AM, one FM and one TV station.”

“In 1985, 7-7-7 went up to 12-12-12.”

“Then came the Telecommunications Act of 1996. Now the limits were 8-infinity: Up to eight stations in any one market, and no limit on the total nationwide.”

“Killed along the way were minimal requirements for non-entertainment programming (1985), the Fairness Doctrine (1987), limits on percentage of advertising content (1985) and various other limitations.”

If you want to read the whole thing - it's worth it. You'll see how corporations ruined the broadcasting industry. The best summation ever.
http://doc.weblogs.com/2003/05/29#broadcastDrekulation

Soonerman
07-07-2014, 11:33 PM
I don't know why ClearChannel doesn't do something else with KBRU 94.7. It's failing in the very saturated Classic Rock format. It's the lowest-rated FM station in the market and has been for several quarters now. Do they even care?

I said this once, I'm going to say it again, I think Clear Channel should give Jack FM a try on 94.7. Yes I know OKC had a Jack once, But it was on a very sorry signal. 1,000 watt signal and it failed Geez thats a shock. Clear Channel should revive the KOJK call letters if they went that route. As for 92.9 FM I wonder if KNIN out of Wichita Falls interferes with the Comedy Station at times?

HOT ROD
07-08-2014, 07:57 AM
or maybe EDM for 94.7. Is OKC ready for a dance music station? If OKC could then format-wise the city would be more or less complete.

Would be nice to see an Asian or Ethnic (which could rotate hourly through the Asian/S.American ethnics) station also, perhaps on AM.

bchris02
07-08-2014, 08:30 AM
or maybe EDM for 94.7. Is OKC ready for a dance music station? If OKC could then format-wise the city would be more or less complete.

Would be nice to see an Asian or Ethnic (which could rotate hourly through the Asian/S.American ethnics) station also, perhaps on AM.

I love EDM music but I don't see it working on a 100kW signal, and especially not in OKC. It could work on a translator though. There are also several other formats that are covered in most major cities but aren't on the dial in OKC. Here are the ones I can think of off the top of my head.

-Variety (Jack FM)
-True Oldies
-Alternative rock
-Smooth jazz
-Standards (The Martini)

In addition, it would be nice to see Now 96.5 and Power 103.5 moved to signals that properly cover the market.

warreng88
07-08-2014, 08:37 AM
The one complaint I have is we don't have a modern rock station in OKC. I grew up in Tulsa and 104.5 The EDGE is really the only thing I miss about not living there any more. 100.5 and 94.7 play some modern rock, but most of it is classic rock. With as many modern rock concerts as we have coming to the DT Airpark, Zoo, Diamond, Chameleon Room, etc, it shocks me that we don't have the demographic to support a station like that. 94.7 used to be The Buzz, which played more modern rock, but then they changed it to The Brew which played more classic.

OKCretro
07-08-2014, 08:42 AM
I listen to jazz with Bob Parlocha almost every night from about 9 until I fall asleep. Also enjoy radio deluxe with John Pittzarelie (sp) on sunday night. Bob Parlocha got me through law school.

Do wish we had an EDM station but I don't think we are there yet even though 102.7 and 96.5 plays EDM about every third song now. I turn to magic 104.1 every so often and they are even playing Avicci "wake me up"

How do Jack and Ron still have jobs? s

warreng88
07-08-2014, 08:55 AM
How do Jack and Ron still have jobs?

Completely agree. When the wife and I drive around at night, we listen to John Tesh (sindicated) on 98.9. In the morning, when I leave for work at 7:45am, it never fails, I end up hearing Jack's terrible Arnold, Richard Simmons or most likely Paula Deen impression. I have tried to listen to their show and never once have I laughed or thought it was remotely entertaining.

bchris02
07-08-2014, 09:59 AM
The one complaint I have is we don't have a modern rock station in OKC. I grew up in Tulsa and 104.5 The EDGE is really the only thing I miss about not living there any more. 100.5 and 94.7 play some modern rock, but most of it is classic rock. With as many modern rock concerts as we have coming to the DT Airpark, Zoo, Diamond, Chameleon Room, etc, it shocks me that we don't have the demographic to support a station like that. 94.7 used to be The Buzz, which played more modern rock, but then they changed it to The Brew which played more classic.

There's no excuse for OKC not having a modern rock station. The demographics are here to support it. The problem is operators here refuse to think outside the country, classic rock, and sports talk box.

TheTravellers
07-08-2014, 12:28 PM
I love EDM music but I don't see it working on a 100kW signal, and especially not in OKC. It could work on a translator though. There are also several other formats that are covered in most major cities but aren't on the dial in OKC. Here are the ones I can think of off the top of my head.

-Variety (Jack FM)
-True Oldies
-Alternative rock
-Smooth jazz
-Standards (The Martini)

In addition, it would be nice to see Now 96.5 and Power 103.5 moved to signals that properly cover the market.

We had a Martini station at 105.3 for a year or two, was The Spy before that, and now it's sports radio.

Dubya61
07-08-2014, 12:55 PM
As for 92.9 FM I wonder if KNIN out of Wichita Falls interferes with the Comedy Station at times?

When I'm east of Choctaw Road, I get a lot of Tulsa Classic Rock (92.9, Bob-FM, same format as Bob-FM in OKC).

bchris02
07-08-2014, 01:20 PM
We had a Martini station at 105.3 for a year or two, was The Spy before that, and now it's sports radio.

I remember the Martini. It was still on the air when I moved here and was by far my favorite station in OKC. Sad that it changed to yet another sports talk station.

theparkman81
07-08-2014, 01:26 PM
or maybe EDM for 94.7. Is OKC ready for a dance music station? If OKC could then format-wise the city would be more or less complete.

Would be nice to see an Asian or Ethnic (which could rotate hourly through the Asian/S.American ethnics) station also, perhaps on AM.

I am surprise that an Asian or Ethnic radio station hasn't been tried in OKC.

theparkman81
07-08-2014, 01:27 PM
There's no excuse for OKC not having a modern rock station. The demographics are here to support it. The problem is operators here refuse to think outside the country, classic rock, and sports talk box.

I thought I read that The Tyler boys was going to start a modern rock station.

Soonerman
07-08-2014, 03:02 PM
When I'm east of Choctaw Road, I get a lot of Tulsa Classic Rock (92.9, Bob-FM, same format as Bob-FM in OKC).

I think when you get southwest of Blanchard, KNIN starts fighting with that translator.

windowphobe
07-08-2014, 05:27 PM
Scott Shannon's True Oldies Channel is being dropped by its syndicator.

And the original 7-7-7 rule was even tighter than it sounds: no more than 5 of those 7 TV stations could be on the VHF band.

zookeeper
07-08-2014, 05:34 PM
Scott Shannon's True Oldies Channel is being dropped by its syndicator.

And the original 7-7-7 rule was even tighter than it sounds: no more than 5 of those 7 TV stations could be on the VHF band.

Yes! And thank you for the comment on my post. I'm not sure that many here realize that radio today is a direct result of what Doc Searles summarized in my post. (http://www.okctalk.com/ask-anything-about-okc/38375-radio-landscape-okc-2.html#post808299)

stratosphere
07-08-2014, 06:06 PM
We had a Martini station at 105.3 for a year or two, was The Spy before that, and now it's sports radio.

What happened to the Spy? Is it internet only? Whenever i turn to that channel all i hear is NPR.


There's no excuse for OKC not having a modern rock station. The demographics are here to support it. The problem is operators here refuse to think outside the country, classic rock, and sports talk box.

Agreed


Completely agree. When the wife and I drive around at night, we listen to John Tesh (sindicated) on 98.9. In the morning, when I leave for work at 7:45am, it never fails, I end up hearing Jack's terrible Arnold, Richard Simmons or most likely Paula Deen impression. I have tried to listen to their show and never once have I laughed or thought it was remotely entertaining.

Jack & Ron are decent, its just that the music played on 98.9 is mostly crap. I used to listen occasionally, the Hollywood update guy was somewhat entertaining, though that caller who used to call in every morning "Michael" was quite fun. I dont know if he was real or just some character, but i like to think he was real.


The one complaint I have is we don't have a modern rock station in OKC. I grew up in Tulsa and 104.5 The EDGE is really the only thing I miss about not living there any more. 100.5 and 94.7 play some modern rock, but most of it is classic rock. With as many modern rock concerts as we have coming to the DT Airpark, Zoo, Diamond, Chameleon Room, etc, it shocks me that we don't have the demographic to support a station like that. 94.7 used to be The Buzz, which played more modern rock, but then they changed it to The Brew which played more classic.

Exactly. I have XM radio in the vehicle i drive the most and there's no comparison to their quality versus local radio. Local radio just plain sucks. We haven't had a good station here since 95X (not counting Spy) and that was almost 20 years ago. For a city this size...its absurd.

trousers
07-08-2014, 06:13 PM
The Spy is on KOSU after 7pm.

bchris02
07-08-2014, 06:30 PM
For a city this size...its absurd.

That goes for most of the stations here. OKC radio for the most part sounds and is programmed very small market. Most stations in OKC sound better fit for a place like Amarillo or Midland-Odessa. This is definitely one thing in this town that has gotten worse in the past 10-15 years rather than better. There is a big difference when you go to the Tulsa market which actually has much better stations, many of which actually sound larger market.

Soonerman
07-08-2014, 06:46 PM
There's no excuse for OKC not having a modern rock station.

I agree, I also wish OKC had an Adult Album Alternative station like KXT 91.7 out of Dallas.

stratosphere
07-08-2014, 07:51 PM
That goes for most of the stations here. OKC radio for the most part sounds and is programmed very small market. Most stations in OKC sound better fit for a place like Amarillo or Midland-Odessa. This is definitely one thing in this town that has gotten worse in the past 10-15 years rather than better. There is a big difference when you go to the Tulsa market which actually has much better stations, many of which actually sound larger market.

Right. I remember when i lived in Atlanta they had both an "X" and an "Edge" alternative stations, which were both great. VA beach had two alternative stations as well, i think one was called "the Coast" and i dont remember the other one. All we need is one good station here. I like KATT sometimes (when they play PJ, U2, Cage the Elephant, Jack White, Linkin Park, Artic Monkeys, NIN, Chevelle, etc.) i dont like the KATT when they play stuff like Ozzy Osbourne, Led Zeppelin, or whatever makes the trailer park contingent happy.

BlackmoreRulz
07-09-2014, 06:40 AM
Oh yeah...nothing says high-brow like Linkin Park.........

Urbanized
07-09-2014, 06:47 AM
Lol

stratosphere
07-09-2014, 05:57 PM
Oh yeah...nothing says high-brow like Linkin Park.........

who said anything about high-brow? Oh, guess you were offended by the trailer park remark. My bad. I think the point was....as illustrated throughout this thread....OKC has enough classic rock stations and could benefit from new rock or alt rock stations. Clearly most of the examples i listed fit into one category or the other.

zacelliott
07-16-2014, 12:40 PM
We definitely could benefit from an alternative station. The Edge in Tulsa (Dallas also has "The Edge") are very similar and I think would work really well in OKC. They play everything from Linkin Park, Stone Temple Pilots, to Florence and the Machine, Alt-J, etc. Complete spectrum. When i'm back in KC I listen to 96.5 The Buzz, which is a great station but is a tad too focused on the newer stuff, which gets tiring after a while. If 104.5 in Tulsa could expand west to OKC I'd be happy. I listen to 100.5 most of the time, but ever since KRXO switched to a low power station, the KATT felt they had to pick up the slack and listeners and picked up way more Classic Rock, which seems to take over anymore. Granted when they were more new rock it got pretty repetitive, so a change up was nice, but incorporating more alternative/modern would have been more beneficial than adding classic rock IMO.

bchris02
07-16-2014, 12:55 PM
We definitely could benefit from an alternative station. The Edge in Tulsa (Dallas also has "The Edge") are very similar and I think would work really well in OKC. They play everything from Linkin Park, Stone Temple Pilots, to Florence and the Machine, Alt-J, etc. Complete spectrum. When i'm back in KC I listen to 96.5 The Buzz, which is a great station but is a tad too focused on the newer stuff, which gets tiring after a while. If 104.5 in Tulsa could expand west to OKC I'd be happy. I listen to 100.5 most of the time, but ever since KRXO switched to a low power station, the KATT felt they had to pick up the slack and listeners and picked up way more Classic Rock, which seems to take over anymore. Granted when they were more new rock it got pretty repetitive, so a change up was nice, but incorporating more alternative/modern would have been more beneficial than adding classic rock IMO.

The Brew also went back to 100% classic rock after KRXO switched to sports. Before they had been a hybrid station. OKC is predominantly a country, classic rock, and sports market. Broadcast companies seem to be afraid to try other formats in this town.

Ten years ago OKC radio wasn't too bad. Back then, there was only a single classic rock station and a single sports station. There were three country stations, two modern and one classic. The dial had far more variety on it than it does today. You had a variety station, a true oldies station, two alternative rock stations, and a rhythmic top-40 station that played current music, all formats that would be more than welcome today.

Are operators just not able to make a profit outside of the country/classic rock/sports formats here these days?

zacelliott
07-16-2014, 01:23 PM
The Brew also went back to 100% classic rock after KRXO switched to sports. Before they had been a hybrid station. OKC is predominantly a country, classic rock, and sports market. Broadcast companies seem to be afraid to try other formats in this town.

Ten years ago OKC radio wasn't too bad. Back then, there was only a single classic rock station and a single sports station. There were three country stations, two modern and one classic. The dial had far more variety on it than it does today. You had a variety station, a true oldies station, two alternative rock stations, and a rhythmic top-40 station that played current music, all formats that would be more than welcome today.

Are operators just not able to make a profit outside of the country/classic rock/sports formats here these days?

I'd like to see a study done of users of streaming services (Pandora, Google Play, Amazon, Spotify, etc) and figure out if other genres can really survive here. I mean why does The Edge in Tulsa have no problem? They even have an alternative music festival (Center of the Universe Festival) coming up! Is the musical demographic in Tulsa so much different than OKC? Maybe it's not but companies are afraid to try anything here. I can guarantee if The Edge or a comparable station came to OKC my dial would never move, and I know others that would listen to it in a heartbeat. Maybe with the influx of streaming services and users companies aren't willing to invest in the infrastructure for a station because they figure people are just going to listen to it online anyway.

theparkman81
07-17-2014, 04:59 PM
Well the recent ratings came out the other day, and at top is KJ103( nothing new) next was KOMA, but KXY keeps dropping and The Franchise is dropping, Wild 104.9 stay the same but honestly its time for a change on 104.9 along with others.

Throckmorton
07-17-2014, 06:37 PM
No wonder all we have is classic rock stations. If the music threads around here are any indication, most OKCitians stopped keeping up with pop rock sometime around 1979.