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Soonerman
07-17-2014, 07:48 PM
I really don't understand OKC radio, Why do they need 3 Classic Rock stations and 2 Classic Country stations?

bchris02
07-17-2014, 11:26 PM
Well the recent ratings came out the other day, and at top is KJ103( nothing new) next was KOMA, but KXY keeps dropping and The Franchise is dropping, Wild 104.9 stay the same but honestly its time for a change on 104.9 along with others.

Wild 104.9 probably survives because its OKC's only real choice for hip-hop and r&b, though it's programming has been terrible since it was switched to Jan Jeffries' playlist. If Power 103.5 would move to a signal that properly covered the OKC market it probably wouldn't be long before Wild would be gone.


I really don't understand OKC radio, Why do they need 3 Classic Rock stations and 2 Classic Country stations?

Like I've said, it didn't used to be that way until the last few years. Hopefully the market will correct itself eventually.

If I was Tyler, I would put Now 96.5 on 107.7 and go head to head with KJ 103. I would then put an alternative rock station on the low-power 104.5 translator that is currently broadcasting KRXO. I would then go urban on 96.5. All of that will never happen, but that's what I would do. That move would force real changes at Cumulus and ClearChannel.

tfvc.org
07-19-2014, 06:33 PM
I think radio is dying with Sirusxm and USB ports being pretty standard anymore in newer cars/decks. But then again I really don't know. Most of the music I like hardly ever gets radio airplay anyway. The only time I really listened to radio was when Dr. Demento was on. My deck was always playing tapes, cds and now thumb drives. I put in a variety of generas and hit random and drive.

bchris02
07-20-2014, 09:43 PM
I think radio is dying with Sirusxm and USB ports being pretty standard anymore in newer cars/decks. But then again I really don't know. Most of the music I like hardly ever gets radio airplay anyway. The only time I really listened to radio was when Dr. Demento was on. My deck was always playing tapes, cds and now thumb drives. I put in a variety of generas and hit random and drive.

Radio everywhere is going downhill. It used to be that FM radio was the only game in town but now with the Internet and satellite it has stiff competition. The point is OKC radio is especially bad (lacks variety) for a city this size.

tfvc.org
07-20-2014, 10:28 PM
Radio everywhere is going downhill. It used to be that FM radio was the only game in town but now with the Internet and satellite it has stiff competition. The point is OKC radio is especially bad (lacks variety) for a city this size.

I think that it isn't just radio. Outsiders, and people that live here have a general stereotype for the people who live here and try to fit that niche, forgetting that even though some or most of Oklahoma is or was like that not everyone listens to honkeytonk or freebird. It is sad. I have lived in this state off and on for 32 years and I have seen growth and progress in a lot of areas, but I have seen the opposite in others, and radio has definitely declined. I am at the age now that music I listened to in my youth (graduated HS in 92) are now on the classic rock station, and it is really odd that classic rock will play freebird and next will be Metallica, and then you turn to Katt and they play Metallica and then whatever new metal band is hot now. It is like a new type of radio station genera needs to be created to play the music that was from the hair band days.

Anyway, I digress.... The people in the towers of LA think they know what the marketplace is here without doing just research. I wish they could get data from last.fm, pandora, ect and see what people are actually playing on their computers in Oklahoma so they can educate themselves what the peoples want.

KenRagsdale
07-22-2014, 04:01 PM
I think that it isn't just radio. Outsiders, and people that live here have a general stereotype for the people who live here and try to fit that niche, forgetting that even though some or most of Oklahoma is or was like that not everyone listens to honkeytonk or freebird. It is sad. I have lived in this state off and on for 32 years and I have seen growth and progress in a lot of areas, but I have seen the opposite in others, and radio has definitely declined. I am at the age now that music I listened to in my youth (graduated HS in 92) are now on the classic rock station, and it is really odd that classic rock will play freebird and next will be Metallica, and then you turn to Katt and they play Metallica and then whatever new metal band is hot now. It is like a new type of radio station genera needs to be created to play the music that was from the hair band days.

Anyway, I digress.... The people in the towers of LA think they know what the marketplace is here without doing just research. I wish they could get data from last.fm, pandora, ect and see what people are actually playing on their computers in Oklahoma so they can educate themselves what the peoples want.

Oklahoma City radio wasn't always so. Prior to the ascendency of FM, WKY/930 and KOMA/1520 were top-drawer broadcast properties. I was privledged to know, and work alongside, many WKY radio personnel. All were without peer in their profession. The WKY radio and television facilities were first class in every way imaginable.

seajohn
08-01-2014, 01:51 PM
What happened to 1560 Comedy? I was listening this morning (8/1), and in the middle of comedy bit they switched to some local talk show. Now, they're playing sports radio (Some goober is going through each of Buffalo's upcoming games for this season saying why he thinks they will or will not win...Who cares?!??!?)

Did the comedy station die off already?

warreng88
08-01-2014, 02:38 PM
What happened to 1560 Comedy? I was listening this morning (8/1), and in the middle of comedy bit they switched to some local talk show. Now, they're playing sports radio (Some goober is going through each of Buffalo's upcoming games for this season saying why he thinks they will or will not win...Who cares?!??!?)

Did the comedy station die off already?

I heard the same thing this afternoon. I really hope not, that was all I listened to on my way to and from work every day.

tfvc.org
08-01-2014, 04:24 PM
I heard the same thing this afternoon. I really hope not, that was all I listened to on my way to and from work every day.

Is it happening on both the AM and FM stations? I didn't listen today, but only listen to the FM side. It would be sad if it is gone, only radio I listen to.

theparkman81
08-01-2014, 04:25 PM
Well its a another sports talk station called The Franchise 2, seriously OKC radio has become so pathetic.

Soonerman
08-01-2014, 05:56 PM
Well its a another sports talk station called The Franchise 2, seriously OKC radio has become so pathetic.

Geez how many sports stations does this town need?

Soonerman
08-01-2014, 05:56 PM
OKC needs another Sports station like they need another Walmart!!

theparkman81
08-01-2014, 06:11 PM
That's what I am thinking, its plays NBC sports network programming, its just like WWLS has local programming and AM 640 that has ESPN programming, honestly OKC radio has gone to the dogs, and its a shame that they got rid of the Comedy station.

Soonerman
08-01-2014, 06:16 PM
It was a decent station, Why are the owners of the stations here afraid to try something new? If it's not Classic Rock, Country or Sports Talk, They don't want to touch it. I wish OKC had a station like the Edge and KXT out of Dallas!!

Roger S
08-02-2014, 07:28 AM
It may be my fault..... I recently upgraded my 97 Dodge Ram with a cassette player and one speaker to an 04 Ford Escape with a 6 CD player and working speakers in it. So instead of listening to Comedy Channel I started listening to the music, I can't hear on OKC music stations, on my CD player. I suppose the loss of one listener could have plummeted the ratings enough they had to pull the plug.

It's too bad too because my attitude had improved quite a bit when I switched from listening to talk radio and started listening to comedy. ;)

s00nr1
08-02-2014, 09:49 AM
Well its a another sports talk station called The Franchise 2, seriously OKC radio has become so pathetic.

There's a reason.....with the growing ability to plug in smartphones/ipods directly into vehicle audio systems, radio is becoming an afterthought.

theparkman81
08-02-2014, 10:46 AM
There's a reason.....with the growing ability to plug in smartphones/ipods directly into vehicle audio systems, radio is becoming an afterthought.

That's true, all I listen to anymore in my car are CD's, music from my phone and some radio here in Ada, the station are a bit better here then in OKC, My co-worker used to listen to KOMA at work, but now he listen to GTO 107 out of Ardmore, the station is a lot better then KOMA.

warreng88
08-03-2014, 09:47 AM
Is it happening on both the AM and FM stations? I didn't listen today, but only listen to the FM side. It would be sad if it is gone, only radio I listen to.

I didn't know there was an FM station, I just listened to the AM station. What was it on FM?

tfvc.org
08-03-2014, 05:13 PM
I didn't know there was an FM station, I just listened to the AM station. What was it on FM?
92.9

Roger S
08-04-2014, 08:14 AM
I'm still getting the comedy station on 92.9..... This morning they were talking about the Dallas Cowboys defense. ;+)

theparkman81
08-04-2014, 10:33 AM
The reason why they changed formats was the 24/7 comedy that they were using ended its run, other station across the country that use 24/7 comedy also flipped formats, so we wasn't the only ones.

stratosphere
08-04-2014, 05:53 PM
I'm still getting the comedy station on 92.9..... This morning they were talking about the Dallas Cowboys defense. ;+)

Didn't realize the Dallas Cowboys had a Defense?

bchris02
09-19-2014, 01:45 PM
Tyler has been simulcasting KOMA on 92.9 for a while now. Does anybody know whether that is permanent or do they have plans to launch a new station at that frequency?

It would be great to see something new there, though I am not holding my breath. Furthermore, KBRU continues to be one of the worst performing stations in the market ratings wise. As saturated as OKC is with classic rock stations, why doesn't ClearChannel try something new there?

warreng88
09-19-2014, 04:43 PM
Tyler has been simulcasting KOMA on 92.9 for a while now. Does anybody know whether that is permanent or do they have plans to launch a new station at that frequency?

It would be great to see something new there, though I am not holding my breath. Furthermore, KBRU continues to be one of the worst performing stations in the market ratings wise. As saturated as OKC is with classic rock stations, why doesn't ClearChannel try something new there?

They tried something new with the Buzz, but that didn't work so they went with something they knew would work.

bchris02
09-19-2014, 05:03 PM
They tried something new with the Buzz, but that didn't work so they went with something they knew would work.

Thing is it obviously isn't working or it wouldn't be one of the lowest rated stations in the market.

zookeeper
09-19-2014, 08:18 PM
Tyler has been simulcasting KOMA on 92.9 for a while now. Does anybody know whether that is permanent or do they have plans to launch a new station at that frequency?

It would be great to see something new there, though I am not holding my breath. Furthermore, KBRU continues to be one of the worst performing stations in the market ratings wise. As saturated as OKC is with classic rock stations, why doesn't ClearChannel try something new there?

I think they're just using KOMA to tweak around and then maybe try to pull another FCC runaround.

I've wondered the same about Cle....oops....beginning today ClearChannel is no more. It's now iHeartMedia. But I agree, do something else.

Soonerman
09-20-2014, 01:50 AM
I wonder how 96.9 FM is doing??

bchris02
09-30-2014, 09:17 PM
Does anybody here ever listen to KKWD Wild 104.9?

I keep giving them try after try and every once and a while it seems like they will have a few weeks where they sound better but under Cumulus' Jan Jeffries' programming its but a shell of its former self. I remember the station in its heyday as one of the best rhythmic Top 40 stations anywhere. Today, most of the songs they play are songs the rest of the world was hearing 2-3 years ago with way too much from the early 2000s for a modern Top 40. I don't know why they do "throwback thursdays" when it is a throwback station 24/7/365. They should just put the station to rest. My guess is that it has survived this long because it's the only station you can get over the air in OKC that kind of fills the urban contemporary niche, even though it doesn't do it very well.

theparkman81
10-07-2014, 12:25 PM
Does anybody here ever listen to KKWD Wild 104.9?

I keep giving them try after try and every once and a while it seems like they will have a few weeks where they sound better but under Cumulus' Jan Jeffries' programming its but a shell of its former self. I remember the station in its heyday as one of the best rhythmic Top 40 stations anywhere. Today, most of the songs they play are songs the rest of the world was hearing 2-3 years ago with way too much from the early 2000s for a modern Top 40. I don't know why they do "throwback thursdays" when it is a throwback station 24/7/365. They should just put the station to rest. My guess is that it has survived this long because it's the only station you can get over the air in OKC that kind of fills the urban contemporary niche, even though it doesn't do it very well.

I think Wild and the Brew both need to go.

bchris02
10-08-2014, 11:58 AM
Wild could be great if Cumulus would return control over the playlist to the local PD. Jan Jeffries is pretty committed to his formula however across all formats. It actually works well for AC and Hot AC stations but for Top 40 and especially a Rhythmic Top 40 like Wild is, the playlist needs to be a bit more cutting edge and less "safe." It would also help if the station was on a better signal. The station dominated when it was on the 97.9 frequency but never completely recovered after the move to 104.9, even prior to being Cumulized.

The Brew simply needs to flip. It's the weakest link in a crowded market.

Soonerman
10-08-2014, 03:10 PM
If you were the PD at I heart radio, What format would you put on 94.7?? I would bring back alternative and make it sound like 102.1 the Edge out of DFW!!!

bchris02
10-08-2014, 04:04 PM
If you were the PD at I heart radio, What format would you put on 94.7?? I would bring back alternative and make it sound like 102.1 the Edge out of DFW!!!

That's a tough question. OKC needs an alternative rock station. It's hard to believe a city this size doesn't have one. However, part of me would be tempted to do a Jack-FM style station.

Soonerman
10-08-2014, 04:48 PM
That's a tough question. OKC needs an alternative rock station. It's hard to believe a city this size doesn't have one. However, part of me would be tempted to do a Jack-FM style station.

I think 99.7 would make a great Jack FM if country doesn't work for them.

bchris02
10-08-2014, 05:03 PM
I think 99.7 would make a great Jack FM if country doesn't work for them.

Perhaps. I tend to think it would make a great frequency for alternative rock or urban contemporary. The lower powered stations are better for formats that are more of a niche market while the 100kw stations are best for those with the most mass appeal.

HOT ROD
10-09-2014, 01:51 AM
EDM please! House Music All Night Long!

bchris02
10-09-2014, 06:43 AM
EDM please! House Music All Night Long!

I like EDM music also but I don't think full-time EDM on a terrestrial station would work in OKC. Usually those stations are found in alpha world cities that have a high gay population such as San Francisco or Toronto, and even then its a tough format. I think a Top 40/Rythmic station that was EDM at a certain time of day might work. I think KJ-103 spins EDM overnight Saturday into Sunday if I am not mistaking. Other than that, Sirius XM has a couple of great stations.

LocoAko
10-09-2014, 09:36 AM
I like EDM music also but I don't think full-time EDM on a terrestrial station would work in OKC. Usually those stations are found in alpha world cities that have a high gay population such as San Francisco or Toronto, and even then its a tough format. I think a Top 40/Rythmic station that was EDM at a certain time of day might work. I think KJ-103 spins EDM overnight Saturday into Sunday if I am not mistaking. Other than that, Sirius XM has a couple of great stations.

It's been a while, but I'm not sure there's even a real EDM station in NYC.

bchris02
10-09-2014, 10:09 AM
It's been a while, but I'm not sure there's even a real EDM station in NYC.

I know its been attempted but I don't think its been successful. There are plenty of good free streaming EDM stations out there as well as awesome ones on satellite. The format doesn't really have the kind of mass appeal to be full time on a terrestrial station.

Soonerman
10-09-2014, 12:27 PM
Dallas had one in the early 2000's.

Plutonic Panda
10-09-2014, 01:08 PM
Dallas had one in the early 2000's.Wasn't it 93.5? I remember it.

Soonerman
10-09-2014, 04:54 PM
The dance station I'm referring to was 106.7. I believe 93.7 was a hip hop station. Now they're both spanish stations.

HOT ROD
10-10-2014, 01:55 AM
SF and TO are alpha world cities?

HOT ROD
10-10-2014, 01:56 AM
I hear what you're saying though, but I do think OKC could support the format at least part time - especially considering isn't EDM among the most popular formats now, not just with the gay crowd. ..

bchris02
10-10-2014, 08:00 AM
I hear what you're saying though, but I do think OKC could support the format at least part time - especially considering isn't EDM among the most popular formats now, not just with the gay crowd. ..

I agree with you. KJ-103 has it late nights on weekends as it is. If I was PD of a station, I would do a rhythmic CHR format, playing Top 40 with an urban/hip-hop lean during the day and then go EDM after 10PM.

warreng88
10-10-2014, 09:07 AM
If you were the PD at I heart radio, What format would you put on 94.7?? I would bring back alternative and make it sound like 102.1 the Edge out of DFW!!!

That would be my preference. I grew up in the Tulsa where 104.5 The Edge was all I listened to. At one point in time, I had all my presets in my car tuned to 104.5 so no one would change the station. I think that and the Chevy BT Events Center getting a makeover could bring in some great concerts we lost to the Cain's and Brady in Tulsa.

HOT ROD
10-11-2014, 12:39 AM
I agree with you. KJ-103 has it late nights on weekends as it is. If I was PD of a station, I would do a rhythmic CHR format, playing Top 40 with an urban/hip-hop lean during the day and then go EDM after 10PM.

+1 too bad Wild doesn't do this.

Questor
10-11-2014, 04:58 PM
Honestly I don't know if that's realistic. OKC can't even support a modern/indie rock station, so I don't see it supporting EDM. Attendance at venues with an electronic focus is kind of weak too, even when some of the world's biggest DJs are in town.

I'd really love it if I was wrong though.

bchris02
10-11-2014, 06:00 PM
+1 too bad Wild doesn't do this.

That would be something to take up with Jan Jeffries.

I just wish, as a top 40 rhythmic station they would play what is popular today instead of the most annoying overplayed songs from last decade.

theparkman81
10-13-2014, 12:19 PM
If I was the PD at 94.7, I would also run alt. rock on the station, with local personalities, not this satellite stuff, listen to Now 96.5 this weekend when I was in the city, great station, great sound and everything, I listen to it all the way down to River wind Casino and then it started to fade out, I wish they would put it on a another frequency.

bchris02
10-13-2014, 12:40 PM
If I was the PD at 94.7, I would also run alt. rock on the station, with local personalities, not this satellite stuff, listen to Now 96.5 this weekend when I was in the city, great station, great sound and everything, I listen to it all the way down to River wind Casino and then it started to fade out, I wish they would put it on a another frequency.

I agree. Now 96.5 is a great station, deserving of a stronger frequency. Why Tyler doesn't see this I don't understand. If they don't want to put it on a real frequency, they could at least put it on the 104.5 translator. It is twice as powerful as the 96.5 translator. In NW OKC, 96.5 is pretty static-filled sometimes and has bleed-in from Mix 96.5 in Tulsa.

Soonerman
10-14-2014, 12:54 AM
Here's the sample of what they played on the Dallas station I was reffering to,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DApUl4sw7eE

warreng88
10-20-2014, 08:31 AM
One thing I don't understand is why Jack and Ron are still on the air? I can't listen to them for more than a few minutes before I get sick of the terrible impressions, too tough trivia. I guess I don't share the same sense of humor that they do.

Bunty
10-20-2014, 12:08 PM
Protest while doing something about the bad FM radio station situation in OKC by getting some music the other stations don't play and put up your own pirate radio station of at least a 100 watts. To escape FCC, only run it on weekends. If I'm right, the FCC doesn't work on weekends to investigate unlicensed stations unless a local station is being interfered with. So don't interfere with the locals. It's been awhile, but I've heard a FM pirate radio station before in OKC. It was comedy from Richard Pryor.

Plutonic Panda
10-20-2014, 12:57 PM
103.5 hasn't worked today for some reason.

bchris02
10-20-2014, 08:28 PM
103.5 hasn't worked today for some reason.

I could pick it up this afternoon on my drive home. Usually the station is so full of static I can't listen for very long though. I wish they would move it closer to OKC. You can get it in Lawton and Elk City better than you can in OKC.

HOT ROD
10-21-2014, 05:10 PM
That is so weird since doesn't Lawton already have its own Hip Hop station?

Soonerman
10-21-2014, 05:21 PM
That is so weird since doesn't Lawton already have its own Hip Hop station?

Yes they do.

bchris02
10-21-2014, 05:48 PM
Tyler is now simulcasting Now 96.5 on the 92.9 frequency. Personally I think 92.9 would be a better permanent frequency for the station than 96.5 being that 92.9 is slightly stronger and also doesn't suffer bleed-in from Mix 96.5 in Tulsa.

Does anybody know what Tyler's long-term plans are for that frequency?

Plutonic Panda
10-21-2014, 09:25 PM
I could pick it up this afternoon on my drive home. Usually the station is so full of static I can't listen for very long though. I wish they would move it closer to OKC. You can get it in Lawton and Elk City better than you can in OKC.Where are they located? I thought it was in OKC?

bchris02
10-21-2014, 09:48 PM
Where are they located? I thought it was in OKC?

The studio is in OKC but the transmitter is way out west of Anadarko, OK.

http://radio-locator.com/pats/KVSP_FM_LU.gif