Here is one way to do it in a picture I took about a week ago.

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Is that the hotel in Banff Springs? Really hope to make it up there soon, along with lake Louise

Well this thread is depressing all the way around.

I actually think this design will be approved.

It's mostly brick, built right up against the street and is very similar to the other hotel projects in Bricktown that have been approved over the last few years.

If we had some prettier renderings people would probably feel better about it.

It's certainly not an exciting design but it's pretty typical of what is already in the district.

If we had some prettier renderings people would probably feel better about it.


I think part of the reason this hasn't been received well is it is "just" a hotel. There isn't anything here to really appeal to locals like, say, Aloft. Since it really only benefits people who are visiting, there is little for locals to get excited about it. It'll basically just end up being another building which doesn't even have a particularly interesting design.

I actually think this design will be approved.

It's mostly brick, built right up against the street and is very similar to the other hotel projects in Bricktown that have been approved over the last few years.

If we had some prettier renderings people would probably feel better about it.

It's certainly not an exciting design but it's pretty typical of what is already in the district.

There is no way this gets approved. It doesn't even have sidewalks between the building and the street. Access to the dumpster off of Sheridan is also a big no-go. The city should continue the alley along the old rail right-of-way and the dumpster moved to this area. This will also facilitate future development on the adjacent lots.

This is another site plan that shows the sidewalks.

They may need to tweak a few things, but I don't see any reason for the committee to withhold approval. It's almost exactly like every other hotel in the district.

http://www.okctalk.com/attachments/development-buildings/8217d1403118287-bricktown-springhill-suites-springbt8.jpg

I actually think this design will be approved.

It's mostly brick, built right up against the street and is very similar to the other hotel projects in Bricktown that have been approved over the last few years.

If we had some prettier renderings people would probably feel better about it.

It's certainly not an exciting design but it's pretty typical of what is already in the district.

I already said that!

Do I need to post a pic. of my post from the previous page in this thread?

I kid, I kid. (Except for already saying that). :)

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So sorry!

You know more about this stuff than I do anyway. :)

So this is the hotel that was originally planned across the street from The Hill, correct? Anything going on with that property now?

So this is the hotel that was originally planned across the street from The Hill, correct? Anything going on with that property now?

Yes, same hotel by the same architect and owner, but the design is pretty different.

He still owns that lot by the The Hill and it's small, so I'm not sure what he'll do with it. He paid a bunch for it.

Was secretly hoping the hotel would go in there as originally planned and values at The Hill would go down and we could finally afford to move there :)

I love that but it uses the pitched roofs to accent the top and pitched roofs are not allowed in Bricktown. The one place that did it downtown has been scorned by almost everyone.

True, but I was referring more to the accents of the upper area of the hotel before the pitched roof starts.

Is that the hotel in Banff Springs? Really hope to make it up there soon, along with lake Louise

Yes it is. I also was at Lake Louise and have pics of the Chateau Lake Louise but that hotel is more about the scenery than the actual design of the hotel.

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New rendering of this project:



http://www.okctalk.com/attachments/development-buildings/8506d1404752758-bricktown-springhill-suites-springnew1.jpg


http://www.okctalk.com/attachments/development-buildings/8507d1404752759-bricktown-springhill-suites-springnew2.jpg

This actually looks decent. Sort of a contemporary spin on what's already down there.

Sexy. Got to say this is a complete 180 from the original deep deuce proposal.

I am curious if the second floor that will be above the lobby will be the meeting space and other amenities, just more rooms or possibly just a two story lobby/bar area. I can't really tell from the floorplans.

My only suggestion/request would be to add some more windows facing front, but I don't know how that would affect room layouts.

My only suggestion/request would be to add some more windows facing front, but I don't know how that would affect room layouts.

Those are stairwells (see floor plans in article at top).

Looks a whole lot better.

My only suggestion/request would be to add some more windows facing front, but I don't know how that would affect room layouts.

They could put in the windows even if there is nothing behind them but a wall. The dumpster still needs to be moved to a new alley behind the building. The sidewalk should also be 8', not 5'.

I think it is really ugly. It is awkward and has no character at all. It looks cheap with minimal design.

Man. I'm kind of divided on this really. Still looks like something that should be out on Memorial or MacArthur but yet still looks cool. I like it, but the location is still kind of throwing me off.

I don't like that it has the air conditioners through the window.

I think it is really ugly. It is awkward and has no character at all. It looks cheap with minimal design.
agreed.

Well it looks 10x better than the original plan.

Well it looks 10x better than the original plan.better than cra... eh, never mind ;)

I agree that its better than the original plan but it still looks like it should be out on Memorial or possibly NW Expressway.

God-awful.

God-awful.Just curious, how is that "god-awful"? I realize it's not the best, but awful?

While better, it still baffles me this is considered appropriate development for an area saturated with such properties. If anything, the barriers to entry should be greater now than ever and this design, though an improvement, still does nothing to enhance the area.

Just curious, how is that "god-awful"? I realize it's not the best, but awful?

This looks like something you would see out on the suburban fringes of a metro area. s00nr1 is right. There are so many of these types of glorified motels downtown that the standard should start to get higher. Downtown development should favor mixed use more and more as time goes. This does nothing to enhance the area, at all. Downtown could really use another full service hotel.

This looks like something you would see out on the suburban fringes of a metro area. s00nr1 is right. There are so many of these types of glorified motels downtown that the standard should start to get higher. Downtown development should favor mixed use more and more as time goes. This does nothing to enhance the area, at all. Downtown could really use another full service hotel.that wasn't my point

that wasn't my point

I guess you are right. It's not "god-awful." I don't really like it however. "God-awful" describes the original Staybridge Suites before they modified it.

Downtown could really use another full service hotel.

Maybe you missed the discussion about the likelihood of a new Marriott in Bricktown.

From Steve,

http://www.oklahoman.com/article/4986499?embargo=1


If all of the developments come to fruition, Bricktown will boast nine hotels with a room count topping 1,400.

Link Hotels spring up in Oklahoma City's Bricktown | NewsOK.com (http://m.newsok.com/article/4986499)

That is very ugly lol.

Maybe you missed the discussion about the likelihood of a new Marriott in Bricktown.

I saw the discussion but never saw confirmation from Pete that it was a real deal and not just speculation.

What happened with this today?

This is probably an ignorant question, but if the speculation Pete was hearing about a new Marriott further west into Bricktown is true, how does this Marriott happen with a new (and hopefully more upscale) version going in just a few blocks west?

This is probably an ignorant question, but if the speculation Pete was hearing about a new Marriott further west into Bricktown is true, how does this Marriott happen with a new (and hopefully more upscale) version going in just a few blocks west?

There are a ton of Marriott properties all over downtown.

Shouldn't affect a full-service Marriott going in.

There are a ton of Marriott properties all over downtown.

Shouldn't affect a full-service Marriott going in.

Does the hotel chain not control how many hotels under their flag go into a certain area?

This is probably an ignorant question, but if the speculation Pete was hearing about a new Marriott further west into Bricktown is true, how does this Marriott happen with a new (and hopefully more upscale) version going in just a few blocks west?

HUGE difference between a full-service Marriott and these hotels like Springhill Suites and Courtyard Inn. It's like the difference between a Sheraton and a Sheraton Four Points. One is a real hotel and the other is pretty much a glorified Best Western.

Does the hotel chain not control how many hotels under their flag go into a certain area?

They can if they choose. They might not want another Springhill Suites, for example. But then again, if there is enough demand, they might allow more than one.

And certainly when it comes to the main Marriott brand, there are often more than one in a downtown area. As it stands now, there is no pure Marriott in the core.

Pete, how close is OKC to the announcement of a full-service Marriott downtown? How tall do you foresee it being?

Pete, how close is OKC to the announcement of a full-service Marriott downtown? How tall do you foresee it being?

I haven't heard anything new, but to summarize what I had previously posted: 1) It would be on the SE corner of Sheridan & Oklahoma; 2) That is one of the properties presently owned by Don Karchmer but under contract to Andy Burnett's group; 3) After that sale closes, another group will be brought in to develop the hotel; 4) The hotel would be some sort of Marriott property, but one of a higher-end variety, i.e. a pure Marriott or something particularly nice; 5) It would have to be of decent height to fit on that site; 6) I'm not sure the stage of all this, in that it could just be preliminary discussions but it sounds like it may be pretty far along.

That's all I know and I doubt we'll learn more until at least after the sale closes.

New article by Steve is posted.

A Question of Trash at the Proposed Springhill Suites | News OK (http://newsok.com/a-question-of-trash-at-the-proposed-springhill-suites/article/4987151)

Interesting the things we stand firm on vs the things we let go but should stand firm on...

The developers submitted revised plans for dumpster to no be located at the end of a long drive.

It's the only significant change and I suspect this will gain final approval and work could start soon.

http://www.okctalk.com/attachments/development-buildings/8883d1407518984-bricktown-springhill-suites-springbt080814.jpg

OKCTalk - Construction to start on new Bricktown hotel (http://www.okctalk.com/content/120-construction-start-new-bricktown-hotel.html)

Did they change the design or will it really be that ugly?

Did they change the design or will it really be that ugly?

:rolleyes:

Looks good, fits well with the district. Designed with urban principles. Should provide a nice price alternative to people staying in downtown for a show at the criterion.

Did they change the design or will it really be that ugly?

That is the final, approved design.

:rolleyes:

Looks good, fits well with the district. Designed with urban principles. Should provide a nice price alternative to people staying in downtown for a show at the criterion.
http://www.quickmeme.com/img/90/905e972ebaf47186cd5861a392480da1ad3b713b0d7b0433ac 33511177ee07f7.jpg

http://www.quickmeme.com/img/90/905e972ebaf47186cd5861a392480da1ad3b713b0d7b0433ac 33511177ee07f7.jpg

I know a lot of people don't like the look of this. But honestly the site plan is not bad. Not surrounded by a sea of parking, for one. Makes much better use of streetfront than other hotels in its neighborhood *cough*Staybridge Suites*cough*

Not saying it is a home run.

I never said it was perfect, but what exactly is wrong with design principles? Its up against the street wall, doesn't have front facing parking, and has a walk space between the building and landscaping. Could it be better? Sure. I think this is a perfectly fine design though. Especially considering the architecture already present in this area. Really helps create a nice little sub district.

Someday, developers in this city will learn that you develop to the corner in Urban settings…

That is the final, approved design.

I just threw up a little in my mouth.

For a budget hotel, it is not bad. Take a look at other Springhill designs; this one is fairly standard, only with red brick and no parking.