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BoulderSooner
06-03-2024, 10:56 AM
They are talking about the two white rectangular signs on the south and west sides of the building. One used to be the 'Take Out' sign. This is before they opened so they may already put something else up.

i see now thank you

jn1780
06-03-2024, 11:00 AM
i get that twenty pho hour is a cool name and open till 2am on weekends. but how can you not be open 24 hours with that name???

I guess that's the aspirational goal.

barrettd
06-03-2024, 11:01 AM
i get that twenty pho hour is a cool name and open till 2am on weekends. but how can you not be open 24 hours with that name???

I saw the name and assumed it was a 24/7 pho joint. :D

bison34
06-06-2024, 11:32 PM
https://www.dallasnews.com/arts-entertainment/2024/06/06/alamo-drafthouse-closes-all-5-of-its-d-fw-theaters/

Guess Alamo may not happen here. I know it was rumored at one point.

jn1780
06-07-2024, 07:45 AM
https://www.dallasnews.com/arts-entertainment/2024/06/06/alamo-drafthouse-closes-all-5-of-its-d-fw-theaters/

Guess Alamo may not happen here. I know it was rumored at one point.

That's just one franchisee, but yeah Alamo doesn't seem like it will happen.

mgharfeh
06-07-2024, 08:27 AM
This is the first time in recent history that there’s no projects for this development in the pipeline… at least publicly. Pete, anything else coming soon?

Ryan
06-07-2024, 12:34 PM
That's just one franchisee, but yeah Alamo doesn't seem like it will happen.

I don’t think okc was a top priority for Alamo. I doubt that it happens at this point. They still do pretty well with the more en vogue markets. Flux is a cool place. Their beers aren’t great and the drink options are limited. But honestly I’m biased because I’ve had one of alamos Guinness milkshakes. Those are hard to top. The second one tastes as good as the first and the third is even better.

Pete
06-07-2024, 12:35 PM
Alamo at Chisholm has been dead since the pandemic.

The only other project I'm aware of is a hotel but don't know why it's taking so long to announce.

dankrutka
06-07-2024, 01:55 PM
All the DFW Alamo Drafthouses just closed (https://www.wfaa.com/article/news/entertainment-news/five-alamo-drafthouse-locations-close-north-texas-chapter-7-bankruptcy-filed/287-105670b3-1546-4ee9-add6-0fd9b3124f1b)—even though some of the buildings are relatively new—so I doubt they're opening any new theaters any time soon, if ever.

Ginkasa
06-07-2024, 02:14 PM
All the DFW Alamo Drafthouses just closed (https://www.wfaa.com/article/news/entertainment-news/five-alamo-drafthouse-locations-close-north-texas-chapter-7-bankruptcy-filed/287-105670b3-1546-4ee9-add6-0fd9b3124f1b)—even though some of the buildings are relatively new—so I doubt they're opening any new theaters any time soon, if ever.

Its a franchisee that went bankrupt (this time) and closed all of their franchised locations. Alamo Drafthouse proper has indicated they hope to get back in that market soon and still have expansion plans.

(but like Pete said, they ain't expanding here)

mgharfeh
06-07-2024, 02:54 PM
i heard just a tiny 20 room hotel? surely that’s not true..

progressiveboy
06-13-2024, 10:59 AM
Its a franchisee that went bankrupt (this time) and closed all of their franchised locations. Alamo Drafthouse proper has indicated they hope to get back in that market soon and still have expansion plans.

(but like Pete said, they ain't expanding here) Sony acquires the Alamo Drafthouse chain of 35 locations. Most likely they will reopen the DFW locations! A huge, viable market.



https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/sony-pictures-acquires-alamo-drafthouse-cinemas-1235920928/

The
06-13-2024, 01:46 PM
Sony acquires the Alamo Drafthouse chain of 35 locations. Most likely they will reopen the DFW locations! A huge, viable market.



https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/sony-pictures-acquires-alamo-drafthouse-cinemas-1235920928/

You running for Dallas mayor?

mgharfeh
06-15-2024, 07:40 AM
theres a new construction container on the hotel site with the VINCIT logo on it…?

Pete
06-15-2024, 08:23 AM
The only permit I've seen is for a minor kitchen remodel for Ramsay's Kitchen -- VINCIT built out that restaurant.

Pete
07-22-2024, 08:08 AM
Some new renderings for Hotel Mix to be part of the Autograph by Marriott collection.

It hasn't been formally announced and no building permits have been filed.

HTTP://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/chisholm072124a.jpg


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bison34
07-22-2024, 08:51 AM
That would be a huge get! Love the Autograph Collection!

Mballard85
07-22-2024, 08:53 AM
Still showing Alamo in the far back right lol.

john60
07-22-2024, 11:56 AM
I hate to even raise the issue....but are there plans/need to add structured parking in the future? I haven't been there in a while and I know they have some in that original development where Fuzzy's is, but seems like a hotel this size may require more spots.

jbrown84
07-22-2024, 01:26 PM
That would be a huge get! Love the Autograph Collection!

Coury Hospitality (The Colcord, The National, The Ambassador) has it on their Pipeline page: https://www.couryhospitality.com/portfolio/chisholm-creek-hotel/ Will be 140 keys.

warreng88
07-22-2024, 02:11 PM
I hate to even raise the issue....but are there plans/need to add structured parking in the future? I haven't been there in a while and I know they have some in that original development where Fuzzy's is, but seems like a hotel this size may require more spots.

Look at the google maps of the area now and there is massive amount of parking surrounding the restaurants, cabela's and top golf. Of course, there is the parking garage to the north of Tract 30 (Fuzzy's, Hatch, etc) but I wouldn't think they would need structured parking right now. Maybe if there is a large amount of infill between WalMart and this area that would be needed, but not right now.

jn1780
07-22-2024, 03:24 PM
Look at the google maps of the area now and there is massive amount of parking surrounding the restaurants, cabela's and top golf. Of course, there is the parking garage to the north of Tract 30 (Fuzzy's, Hatch, etc) but I wouldn't think they would need structured parking right now. Maybe if there is a large amount of infill between WalMart and this area that would be needed, but not right now.

And they would probably end up adding more parking directly to the south of hotel also.

OkieBerto
07-30-2024, 02:14 PM
Per CBRE: "Veterinary Emergency Group (https://veterinaryemergencygroup.com/) coming to OKC! This will be their first Oklahoma location with more to come."

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jn1780
07-30-2024, 02:39 PM
Per CBRE: "Veterinary Emergency Group (https://veterinaryemergencygroup.com/) coming to OKC! This will be their first Oklahoma location with more to come."

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Hmm, not sure how I feel about this. Obviously, people love their animals. Just seems like expensive real estate for this type of business. Especially when there is a BluePearl across the turnpike. At least there will be more front parking spaces with one less restaurant.

TheTravellers
07-30-2024, 02:47 PM
Hmm, not sure how I feel about this. Obviously, people love their animals. Just seems like expensive real estate for this type of business. Especially when there is a BluePearl across the turnpike. At least there will be more front parking spaces with one less restaurant.

I'm sure their exorbitant charges will help make the rent. Never used them, but have used Blue Pearl (when they were some other name) in the past, as well as Neel's 24-hour service a few times, so I'm sure their charges will be in line with those. :)

therhett17
09-02-2024, 10:30 AM
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Chicken Foot is closing at Chisholm Creek

mgharfeh
09-02-2024, 11:55 AM
momentum here is dead, seems like more is closing than opening there these days. maybe lowering their rent to maintain tenants would be a better strategy than backfilling spots like
yokozuna with a pet ER. hopefully they change course while they still can. also a bit
shocked for somewhere that charges so much for rent there’s such poor
maintenance of common areas. the public restroom at the market street was in terrible
condition. they have signs from prior tenants with large white squares covering. again i hope they change course.

Pete
09-02-2024, 12:03 PM
momentum here is dead, seems like more is closing than opening there these days. maybe lowering their rent to maintain tenants would be a better strategy than backfilling spots like
yokozuna with a pet ER. hopefully they change course while they still can. also a bit
shocked for somewhere that charges so much for rent there’s such poor
maintenance of common areas. the public restroom at the market street was in terrible
condition. they have signs from prior tenants with large white squares covering. again i hope they change course.

Recently opened: Ramsay's Kitchen, Spark, Eddie's, Dave's, Riserva.

Uncle Julio's, Bira Bira, Razzoo's, Firebirds, Hatch, Fuzzy's, and Sidecar all do well.

Every time a restaurant closes, a better one opens in its place.

mgharfeh
09-02-2024, 12:19 PM
i agree. didn’t say the development is dead, just the momentum

Jake
09-02-2024, 01:42 PM
How’d these Facebook comments get here?

jn1780
09-03-2024, 08:23 AM
i agree. didn’t say the development is dead, just the momentum

Just a lot of competition. The Half was able to grab Flix Brewhouse(wonder if that has anything with them not wanting to compete with all the restaurants?) and now their getting the Mario Andretti go cart racing. OAK is getting all the upscale stores. Also, lets be honest they could have done a lot better with site planning. Top golf and the first building might as well be in their own little world.

G.Walker
09-03-2024, 09:46 AM
It's safe to say Chisholm Creek missed the mark on site planning and programming. For one it's too spread out, the two apartment complexes there should have been closer to main restaurants to draw more foot traffic, same thing with Cabela's. The HALF did it right by having Dolese, the hospital, and other business anchor that will bring constant foot traffic to the area. Moreover, the apartment complex there is closer to all the amenities. OAK was done right with a major hotel and apartments to anchor to bring needed foot traffic.

Plutonic Panda
09-03-2024, 11:11 AM
I don’t understand why Chisholm Creek can’t get more development going. It seems like whatever they build is pretty successful. Even if a store closes one opens up pretty quickly to fill the space. Their residential unit seem to fill up pretty quick too.

mgharfeh
09-03-2024, 11:28 AM
Sorry didn’t know where to put this question but since it’s just across the highway.. What is going by North Church, there is a large piece of land being cleared?

Celebrator
09-03-2024, 11:37 AM
I wonder if opening the new Chicken Foot in Edmond had anything to do with this? Also, this is the second restaurant to close in this space! My wife and I walked around the whole lake and walked into each restaurant to check out the space and look at a menu about three weeks ago early one Saturday afternoon. I was impressed with the interiors of all of them and the menus, too! I asked the gal at the gelateria and coffee place about traffic and she says it gets very busy all around the lake on weekend nights, even in the heat of the summer, and they do live music and outdoor movies and she said it is all very active.

Pete
09-03-2024, 11:39 AM
Sorry didn’t know where to put this question but since it’s just across the highway.. What is going by North Church, there is a large piece of land being cleared?

North Church adding more parking:

HTTP://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/northchurch1.jpg

Jake
09-03-2024, 11:49 AM
^ That's it? Could have really used another 5-10 acres of parking.

jn1780
09-03-2024, 01:06 PM
I wonder if opening the new Chicken Foot in Edmond had anything to do with this? Also, this is the second restaurant to close in this space! My wife and I walked around the whole lake and walked into each restaurant to check out the space and look at a menu about three weeks ago early one Saturday afternoon. I was impressed with the interiors of all of them and the menus, too! I asked the gal at the gelateria and coffee place about traffic and she says it gets very busy all around the lake on weekend nights, even in the heat of the summer, and they do live music and outdoor movies and she said it is all very active.

The Chicken Foot social media post did mention that the staff went to the new store. So it sounds like it had everything to do with it.

jn1780
09-03-2024, 01:10 PM
^ That's it? Could have really used another 5-10 acres of parking.

Its phase 1 of a much larger church expansion. North Church is currently raising funds to build a whole new auditorium and turning the existing building into student ministries. Half of the current parking lot will be used for expansion.

progressiveboy
09-04-2024, 11:54 AM
Still would be nice if Ikea built one of their new prototype stores in this development!

PhiAlpha
09-04-2024, 12:16 PM
It's safe to say Chisholm Creek missed the mark on site planning and programming. For one it's too spread out, the two apartment complexes there should have been closer to main restaurants to draw more foot traffic, same thing with Cabela's. The HALF did it right by having Dolese, the hospital, and other business anchor that will bring constant foot traffic to the area. Moreover, the apartment complex there is closer to all the amenities. OAK was done right with a major hotel and apartments to anchor to bring needed foot traffic.

Yeah my only gripe is that they talked about it being a walkable lifestyle center initially and then didn't really do that. You can easily walk from restaurant to restaurant around the pond but they stuck the other restaurants a ways away and none of the apartments are really connected at all to the rest of the development (ie. separated by massive parking lots from it). Certainly could've been better but I guess for a development out on the far north edge of the city, it turned out pretty well. No one really expects density up there.

The half still isn't great as a walkable development but it's certainly better. Just hard to make something cohesive and walkable when 90% of the development is large concepts that take up a bunch of space.

caaokc
09-04-2024, 12:25 PM
Still would be nice if Ikea built one of their new prototype stores in this development!

Would be a dream. There was a story that they were looking in the market but nothing materialized

Plutonic Panda
09-04-2024, 01:06 PM
Yeah my only gripe is that they talked about it being a walkable lifestyle center initially and then didn't really do that. You can easily walk from restaurant to restaurant around the pond but they stuck the other restaurants a ways away and none of the apartments are really connected at all to the rest of the development (ie. separated by massive parking lots from it). Certainly could've been better but I guess for a development out on the far north edge of the city, it turned out pretty well. No one really expects density up there.

The half still isn't great as a walkable development but it's certainly better. Just hard to make something cohesive and walkable when 90% of the development is large concepts that take up a bunch of space.
I never got the impression that this development was ever going to be based around a walkable setting. The only thing I saw about that was that they were planning an urban type village that would be walkable connected to either a stadium or an amphitheater. Other than that, I don’t see where they claimed this entire thing was walkable. Even from the preliminary rendering, it showed massive parking lots and big box stores.

Bowser214
11-11-2024, 06:33 PM
CC is adding a fitness center opening soon.
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BoulderSooner
11-12-2024, 07:29 AM
CC is adding a fitness center opening soon.
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this was not correct ..

Mballard85
11-12-2024, 07:52 AM
What a terrible use for that spot.

jn1780
11-12-2024, 07:59 AM
looks like the old chicken foot location


What a terrible use for that spot.

Its pointing to a spot in the southern building, not the old Chicken Foot location at the front along Memorial. I give them a couple of years at most. That's really expensive space for an exercise business. We already had the cycle place turn into a Dave's Hot Chicken.

Pete
11-12-2024, 08:07 AM
Fit Report has taken space down next to Spark, not the old Chicken Foot spot which is still for lease.

BoulderSooner
11-12-2024, 08:08 AM
Its pointing to a spot in the southern building, not the old Chicken Foot location at the front along Memorial. I give them a couple of years at most. That's really expensive space for an exercise business. We already had the cycle place turn into a Dave's Hot Chicken.

thank you for the correction .. i had the imagine backwards in my head ..

Bowser214
12-01-2024, 07:09 PM
Deep Dive into Chisholm Creek Hotel:
Set to open in the fourth quarter of 2026, a Chisholm Creek luxury property will open in Oklahoma City, Okla. Part of Marriott’s Autograph Collection, the hotel will include 181 guestrooms and a three-meal restaurant. The property will also feature a pool and rooftop.
https://www.hotelmanagement.net/openings/coury-hospitality-announces-lifestyle-hotel-openings-and-development

Bowser214
12-01-2024, 07:13 PM
Concept Design
https://beckdesign.com/work/chisholm-creek-hotel-concept/
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mugofbeer
12-01-2024, 11:00 PM
Looks nice!

G.Walker
12-02-2024, 12:15 AM
I think this is an old design, and this hotel development for Chisholm Creek is delayed indefinitely.

OkieBerto
12-04-2024, 05:57 PM
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HOT ROD
12-06-2024, 03:26 AM
https://beckdesign.com/work/okc-skyscraper/

jdross1982
12-06-2024, 07:37 AM
That would be incredible!

jn1780
12-06-2024, 07:49 AM
https://beckdesign.com/work/okc-skyscraper/

Wrong thread. At first I was like, Why are they proposing a skyscraper at Chisholm Creek. lol

Lafferty Daniel
12-06-2024, 08:29 AM
Wrong thread. At first I was like, Why are they proposing a skyscraper at Chisholm Creek. lol

And how old is this rendering? It's on the 4th/Gaylord site where the affordable housing just broke ground. So confused what the purpose of posting this was.