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metro 02-06-2015, 10:37 PM This was on Steve's chat today:
That was lazy reporting
Yes Washington prime bought glimcher. But it almost everyway it was a merger.
The new company is now called WP Glimcher and the glimcher ceo (mike glimcher) is the ceo and vice chairmen of the new company.
Consider the source, almost everything out of OPUBCO is lazy reporting!
iMAX386 02-07-2015, 02:37 AM Just wanted to give you some props Pete...the OKCTalk link and story has been blowing up on my Facebook feed. I'm assuming most those people haven't been to this site before so it's cool to see you and the site get some good pub...and clicks.
Plutonic Panda 02-07-2015, 04:10 AM Also, PluPan, stop making Cougar jokes. They offend me. :tongue:I'll try. ;)
Spartan 02-07-2015, 09:52 AM Not sure but there is quite a bit of space north of Anthropologie.
Also, I believe the old Kensignton Apartments site (on the west side of Grand and south of 63rd) will be housing; probably luxury condos.
The thing that Glimcher has been very successful at in the past is leveraging one destination retailer to secure commitments from others. Now that you've got Trader Joe's and REI in the bag, go with higher density on the development and push the revenue that the site can generate. I understand that this project is competing against Chisholm Creek, but right now Glimcher just got a major boost.
soonerguru 02-07-2015, 01:35 PM I'll never shop at Whole Foods. Never even been in one, but I know its just overpriced "organic" crap & have no reason to go. I'll probably check out Trader Joe's, but I doubt I become a regular. I'm far too basic of a shopper, I don't need anything fancy or new.
Also, PluPan, stop making Cougar jokes. They offend me. :tongue:
It's OK to actually check something out before making unwarranted presumptions about it.
DoctorTaco 02-09-2015, 09:29 AM Breaking: Area journalists incredulous, snarky on Twitter.
As a West Coast transplant (and admitted Trader Joe's lover) I find the Okie reaction to this announcement amusing. Because of the location (I think) there is a knee-jerk assumption that Trader Joes' is expensive (It's not). This brings out the innate OKC cheapskate which all natives have buried somewhere inside them. I've already seen people sneering about TJ's and how snobby and expensive it is, which is hilarious.
On the other side of the spectrum there are people excited but, having no TJs experience, they don't know why, exactly, they are excited. BUT MORE MORE MORE! YAY!!!!!
Here's what I recommend: withhold judgment until they open. Go inside. See for yourself.
I think people will be surprised. TJs is really not going to live up to anyone's expectations, good or bad. It is just different. Not for everyone, but different. I like it.
bchris02 02-09-2015, 09:50 AM As a West Coast transplant (and admitted Trader Joe's lover) I find the Okie reaction to this announcement amusing. Because of the location (I think) there is a knee-jerk assumption that Trader Joes' is expensive (It's not). This brings out the innate OKC cheapskate which all natives have buried somewhere inside them. I've already seen people sneering about TJ's and how snobby and expensive it is, which is hilarious.
I completely agree. Trader Joe's is trendy, but it isn't upscale and is priced pretty reasonably. A lot of people think its competition for Whole Foods but its really very different. So many people here have the impression that anything that's a step above value retail is snobby or "highfalutin" as people here say. Part of it is cultural but part of it also is the fact that OKC has been passed over by most national retailers (with the exception of value retailers) for so long that people lack perspective.
metro 02-09-2015, 09:51 AM POPS AND PROVISION KITCHEN RESTAURANTS ANNOUNCE PLANS TO OPEN AT NICHOLS HILLS PLAZA
OKLAHOMA CITY, FEBRUARY 9, 2015: POPS and Provision Kitchen, two Oklahoma City-based unique restaurants, today announced plans to open in the fall of 2015 at Nichols Hill Plaza in Nichols Hills, Oklahoma. The restaurants will open on Avondale Drive near the intersection of Western Avenue and NW 63rd Street. POPS will lease approximately 5500 square feet and Provision Kitchen will lease approximately 3100 square feet.
POPS, founded in 2007 and already an iconic Route 66 destination in Arcadia, will soon start construction on its second restaurant and soda pop destination location in Nichols Hills Plaza. As in Arcadia, the Nichols Hills location will offer a fun and enjoyable opportunity for all ages to enjoy delicious burgers, fries and shakes, plus its unique selection of over 700 varieties of cold soda pop and a well-stocked candy bar that will appeal to both the young and young at heart. Learn more about POPS at POPS: Home (http://www.pops66.com).
Provision Kitchen is a new restaurant that will offer delicious, chef-prepared entrees, sides and fresh-tossed salads. All meals are ready-made to eat on site, take-away, or be delivered. The menu is categorized into breakfast, lunch, dinner, snacks and desserts, and will feature core menu items in each category, along with rotating seasonally-inspired dishes. Provision Kitchen will use only the highest quality nutrient-dense ingredients, sourcing local and organic where possible, with the majority of its produce and meats coming from Arcadia Organic Farm, a locally-owned USDA certified organic farm. Provision Kitchen will conveniently bridge the gap between healthful eating and truly delicious food. Provision Kitchen’s website www.provision-kitchen.com (http://www.provision-kitchen.com) will be live in the coming months.
Marty Doepke, Manager of POPS, said, “We’re excited to bring the family-friendly and unique POPS' Route 66 Arcadia experience to the Nichols Hills community, and with it, bright, colorful, free-wheeling family fun, food, candy and drinks to all ages."
Whitney McClendon, Managing Partner of Provision Kitchen, added, “For busy people looking for a convenient way to enjoy delicious food, we offer gourmet, flavorful take-away meals that cater to a variety of tastes and lifestyles. Provision Kitchen is excited to make your mealtime effortless, by bringing you healthy food that you and family will truly enjoy eating. We are thrilled to be part of the rapidly growing food scene in Oklahoma City.”
Mayor Sody Clements of Nichols Hills said “For 50 years, Nichols Hills Plaza has been a gathering place for the residents of Nichols Hills. The addition of POPS and Provision Kitchen will help add to our already strong community spirit and bring us all back to the Plaza. I look forward to seeing local families once again driving, walking or riding their bikes to the Plaza for great food and fun!”
David Allsbrooks, General Manager at Nichols Hills Plaza, concluded, “We are extremely pleased to announce the addition of POPS and Provision Kitchen to Nichols Hills Plaza. Further, these restaurants align with our plans to continue the center’s history of joining upscale local, regional and national tenants to meet the needs of the local community.”
NWOKCGuy 02-09-2015, 09:59 AM I completely agree. Trader Joe's is trendy, but it isn't upscale and is priced pretty reasonably. A lot of people think its competition for Whole Foods but its really very different. So many people here have the impression that anything nicer than Wal-Mart is snobby or "highfalutin" as people here say. Part of it is cultural but part of it also is the fact that OKC has been passed over by most national retailers (with the exception of value retailers) for so long that people lack perspective.
I've never heard anyone use the term highfalutin.
^Just about to say the same thing. I have no clue where he gets these things.
Paseofreak 02-09-2015, 10:15 AM It's Southern.
jccouger 02-09-2015, 10:18 AM It's OK to actually check something out before making unwarranted presumptions about it.
I think its pretty commonly accepted that whole foods is expensive. Far from unwarranted. I know my shopping habits & its not something I'm interested in. It would be like me getting attacked for me never deciding to shop in a Prada even though I'd never buy high end fashion clothing. Some people are down with that kind of stuff, and that is fine, but I'm not so there is no reason for me to go there.
I know what the term is. I don't know any Oklahomans that use it or anyone that thinks that anything nicer than Wal-Mart is snobby or highfalutin.
bchris02 02-09-2015, 10:23 AM I think its pretty commonly accepted that whole foods is expensive. Far from unwarranted. I know my shopping habits & its not something I'm interested in. It would be like me getting attacked for me never deciding to shop in a Prada even though I'd never buy high end fashion clothing. Some people are down with that kind of stuff, and that is fine, but I'm not so there is no reason for me to go there.
We are talking Trader Joe's though, not Whole Foods. A lot of people think Trader Joe's is an upscale grocery store on the level of a Whole Foods. It's very different than what a lot of people are expecting. I actually don't consider them direct competitors at all. I think a lot of people have this idea that trendy automatically means high priced.
traxx 02-09-2015, 10:50 AM As a West Coast transplant (and admitted Trader Joe's lover) I find the Okie reaction to this announcement amusing. Because of the location (I think) there is a knee-jerk assumption that Trader Joes' is expensive (It's not). This brings out the innate OKC cheapskate which all natives have buried somewhere inside them. I've already seen people sneering about TJ's and how snobby and expensive it is, which is hilarious.
On the other side of the spectrum there are people excited but, having no TJs experience, they don't know why, exactly, they are excited. BUT MORE MORE MORE! YAY!!!!!
I'm so glad we have people like Taco on here to let everyone know exactly how backwards and ignorant Okies are. So...tl;dr You can't be critical of TJ's because you're a cheapskate but you also can't be excited about it unless your from the coast and have first hand experience with it.
chris, I've never heard anyone use the term highfalutin IRL outside of using it in a joking manner. I've heard it used on TV and in movies but never IRL in a straight-faced, serious manner.
jccouger 02-09-2015, 10:52 AM We are talking Trader Joe's though, not Whole Foods. A lot of people think Trader Joe's is an upscale grocery store on the level of a Whole Foods. It's very different than what a lot of people are expecting. I actually don't consider them direct competitors at all. I think a lot of people have this idea that trendy automatically means high priced.
He quoted my post in regards to Whole Foods.
Zuplar 02-09-2015, 11:20 AM POPS AND PROVISION KITCHEN RESTAURANTS ANNOUNCE PLANS TO OPEN AT NICHOLS HILLS PLAZA
OKLAHOMA CITY, FEBRUARY 9, 2015: POPS and Provision Kitchen, two Oklahoma City-based unique restaurants, today announced plans to open in the fall of 2015 at Nichols Hill Plaza in Nichols Hills, Oklahoma. The restaurants will open on Avondale Drive near the intersection of Western Avenue and NW 63rd Street. POPS will lease approximately 5500 square feet and Provision Kitchen will lease approximately 3100 square feet.
POPS, founded in 2007 and already an iconic Route 66 destination in Arcadia, will soon start construction on its second restaurant and soda pop destination location in Nichols Hills Plaza. As in Arcadia, the Nichols Hills location will offer a fun and enjoyable opportunity for all ages to enjoy delicious burgers, fries and shakes, plus its unique selection of over 700 varieties of cold soda pop and a well-stocked candy bar that will appeal to both the young and young at heart. Learn more about POPS at POPS: Home (http://www.pops66.com).
Provision Kitchen is a new restaurant that will offer delicious, chef-prepared entrees, sides and fresh-tossed salads. All meals are ready-made to eat on site, take-away, or be delivered. The menu is categorized into breakfast, lunch, dinner, snacks and desserts, and will feature core menu items in each category, along with rotating seasonally-inspired dishes. Provision Kitchen will use only the highest quality nutrient-dense ingredients, sourcing local and organic where possible, with the majority of its produce and meats coming from Arcadia Organic Farm, a locally-owned USDA certified organic farm. Provision Kitchen will conveniently bridge the gap between healthful eating and truly delicious food. Provision Kitchen’s website www.provision-kitchen.com (http://www.provision-kitchen.com) will be live in the coming months.
Marty Doepke, Manager of POPS, said, “We’re excited to bring the family-friendly and unique POPS' Route 66 Arcadia experience to the Nichols Hills community, and with it, bright, colorful, free-wheeling family fun, food, candy and drinks to all ages."
Whitney McClendon, Managing Partner of Provision Kitchen, added, “For busy people looking for a convenient way to enjoy delicious food, we offer gourmet, flavorful take-away meals that cater to a variety of tastes and lifestyles. Provision Kitchen is excited to make your mealtime effortless, by bringing you healthy food that you and family will truly enjoy eating. We are thrilled to be part of the rapidly growing food scene in Oklahoma City.”
Mayor Sody Clements of Nichols Hills said “For 50 years, Nichols Hills Plaza has been a gathering place for the residents of Nichols Hills. The addition of POPS and Provision Kitchen will help add to our already strong community spirit and bring us all back to the Plaza. I look forward to seeing local families once again driving, walking or riding their bikes to the Plaza for great food and fun!”
David Allsbrooks, General Manager at Nichols Hills Plaza, concluded, “We are extremely pleased to announce the addition of POPS and Provision Kitchen to Nichols Hills Plaza. Further, these restaurants align with our plans to continue the center’s history of joining upscale local, regional and national tenants to meet the needs of the local community.”
To me, part of what makes Pops cool is it's location. If I'm going I'd still rather drive out to the other one.
POPS currently has a very small location on the ground floor of the Harvey Parkway building, which is where the AEP executives (and Aubrey McClendon) office. They also operate at the airport.
They had proposed a Bricktown location in the space now occupied by the Chickasaws for their store on Sheridan, but that fell through for some reason.
Glad to see Nichols Hills Plaza leasing up. The south section has been largely vacant for quite a while.
Bellaboo 02-09-2015, 11:54 AM I for one am very upset that REI is coming to the state. I spend at least a few hundred bucks there a year, now I'll have to pay sales tax :cuss2:
;) J/K I am very excited. I can finally stop paying for oversized shipping or driving to DFW. I am a little surprised by the location, but nothing wrong with it.
Edit: If anyone from the OTC is reading this, I always pay all required use taxes.
One word: Cookiebutter!
Thanks
Bellaboo 02-09-2015, 12:03 PM I've never heard anyone use the term highfalutin.
I have, from Granny on the Beverly Hillbillies...............
onthestrip 02-09-2015, 12:23 PM Trader Joes and now two new large restaurants (5,500sf for a Pops?)...seems like there is future parking problems in Nichols Hills Plaza.
Teo9969 02-09-2015, 01:16 PM I have heard the term highfalutin used in Oklahoma plenty, especially from folks out west, but this might be the first thread I've ever seen it in writing.
There are some things that just don't seem to make it to text very often.
traxx 02-09-2015, 02:15 PM I have heard the term highfalutin used in Oklahoma plenty, especially from folks out west, but this might be the first thread I've ever seen it in writing.
There are some things that just don't seem to make it to text very often.
Used in a serious manner? I've been to Altus, Hobart, Cordell, Elk City, Clinton, Woodward, I've even been to the panhandle and I've never heard this used in a serious manner. I've heard it used as a joke but never as typical, every day language.
HOT ROD 02-09-2015, 02:22 PM good to hear of the additions to NHP and the first location of Pops actually in the city.
I wonder if they will have a scale version of their soda pop bottle? Too bad the Bricktown location didn't pan out as Im sure it would have been a huge success - and I think we should have our signature or best known local brands having a 'flagship' location downtown in Bricktown or one of the other districts. ...
Zorba 02-09-2015, 10:57 PM To me, part of what makes Pops cool is it's location. If I'm going I'd still rather drive out to the other one.
I think it'll be nice to have a reasonably priced /simple food restaurant around there. Maybe there are others and I just don't know about them.
TheTravellers 02-10-2015, 01:18 PM I think it'll be nice to have a reasonably priced /simple food restaurant around there. Maybe there are others and I just don't know about them.
Irma's
PhiAlpha 02-10-2015, 01:34 PM Irma's
Tuckers
NWOKCGuy 02-10-2015, 01:38 PM There's a lot of affordable options over there. Coolgreens, Irmas, Tuckers, Hideaway, Iguana, Upper Crust. Sonic, Panera for chains.
sooner88 02-10-2015, 01:52 PM There's a lot of affordable options over there. Coolgreens, Irmas, Tuckers, Hideaway, Iguana, Upper Crust. Sonic, Panera for chains.
Saturn, Snow Pea, City Bites, Brown Bag Deli, Whole Foods. There's a ton of options in that area. (Iguana Cafe is closed.)
NWOKCGuy 02-10-2015, 02:01 PM I forgot Iguana Cafe closed! But yes - tons of options. I was just listing what I could remember off the top of my head.
jerrywall 02-10-2015, 04:57 PM Saturn, Snow Pea, City Bites, Brown Bag Deli, Whole Foods. There's a ton of options in that area. (Iguana Cafe is closed.)
Whole Foods has become one of my favorite lunch spots. Affordable, and lots of hot and cold options.
CuatrodeMayo 02-10-2015, 05:20 PM Whole Foods has become one of my favorite lunch spots. Affordable, and lots of hot and cold options.
The one in South Lake Union is only a 10 minute walk from my office and is a great place to grab a healthy lunch. Even when it is overrun with Amazombies.
Trader Joe's has lots of prepared items as well, although no hot food.
Zorba 02-10-2015, 08:41 PM Thanks for setting me straight everyone. I try to keep a list of restaurants to try, so I'll add the suggestions. Not sure how I missed all of them.
Spartan 02-12-2015, 01:06 AM They do have nickel wine samples in Ohio though... Modern liquor laws are a beautiful thing.
They ALWAYS have a samples "bar" running in their stores, which is better than Whole Foods can say. So there is are consumables, just not a meal..
^ I miss $0.25 beer samples at Giant Eagle... Old lady would grocery shop, I'd get a slight buzz for about $3. Good ol' Ohio.
Plans are starting to shape up for the lifestyle center south of 63rd.
REI will be near the corner of 63rd and Grand but face into the development and towards a new thoroughfare that will run roughly n/s and line up with the drive into NH Plaza. Pretty sure they will be seeking to put a light and crosswalk at that point on 63rd.
Two new retailers have been signed up: Restoration Hardware and Arhaus.
Arhaus (http://www.arhaus.com/) is a really nice get; they're an upscale furniture store located in Northpark in Dallas and The Domain in Austin, so that gives you a flavor of what Glimcher is going for on this site.
I know they are working with at least two new-to-market restaurant chains, but not sure exactly who.
Interesting little battle developing between this site and Chisholm Creek, but that's all good for OKC.
Urbanized 03-07-2015, 09:07 AM The good news is that I think there is plenty of room for both. OKC has been so dramatically under served for so long by upscale natural retailers that it's easy to misinterpret that as being the result of a lack of demand, but I think that is FAR from the truth.
Every single new upscale retailer that comes to OKC seems to be wildly successful.
I know for a fact that both that Whole Foods and Anthropologie have far exceeded each company's projections. And I bet West Elm has, too.
Urbanized 03-07-2015, 09:16 AM Regarding site config, I think a median on 63rd and even gateways on E/W boundaries (again on 63rd) - in addition to the mentioned crosswalk - would go a long way to creating a unified sense of place, along with some traffic calming, all of which would invite pedestrians to circulate between both developments. The fact that NHP and the development south of 63rd share common ownership is incredibly powerful.
Another thing that would help is if both developments build out structures facing each other on 63rd. Right now NHP especially has a very odd relationship with that street, which is arguably the most important thoroughfare of all which touch these developments.
Urbanized 03-07-2015, 09:19 AM Every single new upscale retailer that comes to OKC seems to be wildly successful.
I know for a fact that both that Whole Foods and Anthropologie have far exceeded each company's projections. And I bet West Elm has, too.
I was told that the opening weekend of West Elm was the third-largest in the chain's history, after Chelsea (NYC) and Toronto.
Agree all points.
And the good news is that Glimcher is a very experienced retail developer with great architects.
Given their massive investment with plenty more to come, I'm sure they'll devote a lot of resources to threading things together as much as possible.
BTW, AEP now owns the small office building on the NE corner of 63rd & Grand and I'm sure changes / upgrades are coming to that property as well.
Rainey Willaims owns the building on the southwest corner of that intersection and has been renovating it for some new tenants as well.
And Chesapeake still owns tons of land, buildings and condos all around that clearly does not fit into their campus plans (refer to graphic at top of the page).
Teo9969 03-07-2015, 09:27 AM What's crazy is that these two lifestyle centers front the same street…
Gotta wonder what both of these properties are going to do to residential values between Wilshire and 122nd, especially considering that's an area that is almost entirely forgotten about in this city.
As evidence Glimcher is trying to unify these properties as much as possible, I'm pretty sure they will be re-branding everything under a new name, although I'm not exactly sure what that is yet.
Teo9969 03-07-2015, 09:35 AM I'd like to see somewhere in the range of 150 - 250 units of Apartments in this area south of 63rd. Is there any chance of substantial residential within these developments?
I'd like to see somewhere in the range of 150 - 250 units of Apartments in this area south of 63rd. Is there any chance of substantial residential within these developments?
I'm pretty sure the old Kensington Apartments parcel (the one west of Grand) will be housing of some sort.
Chesapeake demolished those some time ago and also the Kings Court condos on the north side of 63rd.
Both have been vacant lots for years since.
Also, Chesapeake still owns the majority of condo units in the three complexes west of NH Plaza South. They have millions invested and I'm sure the plan was to acquire all the units in each, then bulldoze ala Kings Court. But they never reached that point in any of the three and have over $14 million (!) invested in those complexes. And of course, they wildly over-paid for almost all of those units.
Decious 03-07-2015, 01:08 PM Wow! Arhaus is a big deal! My beautiful wife loves that store and has made several purchases online. They don't seem to be in "odd" markets. Almost all of the locations are in major cities. Between Arhaus, RH, and West Elm, this area will have a large amount of mid-high end furniture for sale. You'd imagine they'd feed off of each other in a good way. Great news! Crate and Barrel? If they were to ever enter the market... I wonder if they'd lean toward this cluster or prefer Chsmcrk?
Crate & Barrel has started to lean pretty heavily towards stand-alone stores and for that reason I think Chisholm Creek would likely be a better fit.
And in addition to all the furniture stores you mentioned in the Glimcher development, Anthropologie has a lot more home items than most realize.
Dustin 03-07-2015, 08:23 PM Oh man. The RH in Atlanta is beautiful. I doubt OKC will get anything like it, but it's nice to know we are getting one.
All the Restoration Hardware stores are very nice.
When I moved into my house about 10 years I spent a ton of money in that place.
zookeeper 03-07-2015, 09:20 PM Very exciting developments! IMO, It will be very difficult to try to tie anything in with Classen Curve without serious reconfiguration. CC is the worst shopping center design I think I've ever seen. With everything being blocked in and facing a big surface lot, it's just terrible. Sorry, Rand. Glimcher seems set to do wonders for the retail environment of this city.
Chadanth 03-07-2015, 09:27 PM Although it's completely worth it, traffic is going to be a nightmare in that area once this gets rolling.
Mr. Cotter 03-08-2015, 05:49 PM Very good additions. I liked walking through Arhaus in Cincinnati when I lived near it. Very different, and it'll be nice to have some non Mathis owned furniture options in town.
OKCTalk - Restoration Hardware, Arhaus and more eyeing OKC market (http://www.okctalk.com/content/135-restoration-hardware-arhaus.html)
Spartan 03-29-2015, 09:54 AM Agree all points.
And the good news is that Glimcher is a very experienced retail developer with great architects.
Given their massive investment with plenty more to come, I'm sure they'll devote a lot of resources to threading things together as much as possible.
BTW, AEP now owns the small office building on the NE corner of 63rd & Grand and I'm sure changes / upgrades are coming to that property as well.
Rainey Willaims owns the building on the southwest corner of that intersection and has been renovating it for some new tenants as well.
And Chesapeake still owns tons of land, buildings and condos all around that clearly does not fit into their campus plans (refer to graphic at top of the page).
Oh, Rainey owns another building? Wow I predict another mystery tower!!
CuatrodeMayo 03-29-2015, 10:35 AM Oh, Rainey owns another building? Wow I predict another mystery tower!!
Wrong. You don't know Rainey Williams...
zachj7 03-29-2015, 11:00 AM Perhaps one of the restaurants is The Capital Grille
They seem to be going in nice lifestyle centers
https://www.thecapitalgrille.com/
catch22 03-29-2015, 11:09 AM OKCTalk - Restoration Hardware, Arhaus and more eyeing OKC market (http://www.okctalk.com/content/135-restoration-hardware-arhaus.html)
This is becoming quite the development.
Thanks for your research and dedication to getting these stories to us ahead of the local media. Great work!
bchris02 03-29-2015, 11:18 AM Perhaps one of the restaurants is The Capital Grille
They seem to be going in nice lifestyle centers
https://www.thecapitalgrille.com/
I have lived in two cities that had Capital Grille locations but have never ate there. That would be great if it came though. OKC really needs some fresh seafood restaurants.
Pete, I know early on Ruth's Chris was associated with this development. Is that one of the restaurants you are currently tracking?
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