There is a lot of dirt moving at the NE corner of Memorial Road and Rockwell Avenue. Anybody know about the development?

I've been wondering about it as well. They put a light in for it on Rockwell when they widened the street a couple months back.

The is a big Planned Unit Development for that area... I posted about it elsewhere, but I'l have to locate it.

Lots of apartments, some office and a large retail center -- all conceptual.

It surprises me that Oklahoma City keeps allowing apartment complexes to be built. There needs to be a move for more home ownership. There are hundreds of vacant houses across the metro that could be filled.

For every complex built, another complex dies and you have the problems we see up down NW 10th and on Lyrewood Lane. The good tenants leave, the troublemakers move in. Eventually the complex closes and its fair game for squatters and arsonists.

It surprises me that Oklahoma City keeps allowing apartment complexes to be built. There needs to be a move for more home ownership. There are hundreds of vacant houses across the metro that could be filled.

For every complex built, another complex dies and you have the problems we see up down NW 10th and on Lyrewood Lane. The good tenants leave, the troublemakers move in. Eventually the complex closes and its fair game for squatters and arsonists.

That's pretty much the cycle everywhere. Most of the time it can be blamed on poor management. Older apartment complexes can remain nice and desireable if they are kept up. Apartments and home ownership are different markets. People wanting to rent an apartment aren't going to decide to buy a house just because they build more houses, and people who want to by a house aren't going to rent just because an apartment complex is being built.

Here is the conceptual plan for that corner:

http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/memrock1.JPG

It surprises me that Oklahoma City keeps allowing apartment complexes to be built. There needs to be a move for more home ownership. There are hundreds of vacant houses across the metro that could be filled.

For every complex built, another complex dies and you have the problems we see up down NW 10th and on Lyrewood Lane. The good tenants leave, the troublemakers move in. Eventually the complex closes and its fair game for squatters and arsonists.

That is called sprawl and the last time we had a national movement to promote home ownership it damn near collapsed the country. The reality is that 99% of the people aren't prepared to be homeowners. They don't have the time, resources, know-how, desire, and financial ability to properly maintain a home. That is why people constantly buy new ones instead of making repairs to their current homes. The new people move in and they lack the same things the first owner lacked and the house falls deeper into disrepair. Then this cycle repeats for 60 years.

It's just ingrained in people's heads here to own a home one day. I love apartment/condo life especially if you can find a good rate and/or a great management team.


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It's just ingrained in people's heads here to own a home one day. I love apartment/condo life especially if you can find a good rate and/or a great management team.


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Completely agree. I have taken a lot of flack for saying this but its the OKC way, ingrained very deep in the culture here, to own a home with a big yard in the suburbs. Because of that, suburbia will likely always dominate the OKC metro. That's not to say high-density living won't become more prevalent because it will, but it will probably never be the dominant way of life here.

You do know that every metropolitan area in the country has the majority of it's population in the suburbs, don't you? Your beloved Charlotte has 700k in Charlotte proper and 2.4 in the metro, meaning 1.7 million people in Charlotte metro live in the suburbs or 71% of the MSA. You get flack for saying it because that's all you discuss. Shut up about it already.

I remember the PUD from a few years ago, but the downturn stalled everything. Is anybody attached to this project yet or are they just moving dirt? Heard a lot of rumors the first time around given the proximity to Gaillardia and so many roof tops.

Is Bchirs02 really a troll?

Is Bchirs02 really a troll?

If stating obvious facts like OKC being suburban means I am a troll, then I guess that's what I am.

If stating obvious facts like OKC being suburban means I am a troll, then I guess that's what I am.The only post I've ever seen from Naptown is that right there. So it would seem to me Naptown is nothing but a troll; I wouldn't mind any attention to him.

I have noticed they are starting the dirt work on this development. Can anyone confirm this project is underway? Are there any tenants secured yet?

Any update to this corner? I noticed there is constant dirt work going on and it appears they are about to put in water and sewer lines in the big lot on the NE corner of this intersection where they put in the red light a year ago (still not turned on).

Two apartment complexes have now opened and two residential communities just opened just off rockwell between memorial and 150th. Seems like this area is about to get developed.

I'm a bit late on replying to an earlier post on home ownership. Sure some like condo/apt life, others want there "large" suberbia lot, and don't forget that there are a few of us want to be fairly close in and still have our large gardens and animals as in chickens and horses. We define large lot a bit differently at like 5 or more ac. I have to laugh at the large one ac lot. My garden area that is fenced is larger then a lot of large lots.

Any update on this? Still lots of dirt work going on here and you can see the layout matches what Pete posted April 2014.

I talked to the developers and they didn't seem to have any anchor tenants lined up yet.

I talked to the developers and they didn't seem to have any anchor tenants lined up yet.

That explains the snail pace that this is moving.
Just wonder why the city widened the first half mile north of memorial and added the light so fast.

They have been doing a lot of work along Memorial side as well - looks like utility work but not sure. Right lane near Rockwell has been partiall closed down on and off for several days.

That explains the snail pace that this is moving.
Just wonder why the city widened the first half mile north of memorial and added the light so fast.

I suspect the developers chipped in for part of that.

They have been doing a lot of work along Memorial side as well - looks like utility work but not sure. Right lane near Rockwell has been partiall closed down on and off for several days.

laid the waterline for the development along Memorial. The sewerline goes out the back (east) side of the property and runs North through that field of yellow flowers and then heads east down 150th to tie in to a manhole over there.

That field of yellow flower is canola! :)

That field of yellow flower is canola! :)

I had no idea, looks really pretty for a month or so.

I had no idea, looks really pretty for a month or so.

Yes! Very pretty crop!

Yes! Very pretty crop!

Article on NewsOK mentions a rumored Walmart SuperCenter on W Memorial... is that what is actually going to end up being built in this development?

We really can?t help going to the Walmarts | News OK (http://newsok.com/we-really-cant-help-going-to-the-walmarts/article/5438932?earlyAccess=true)

Oh Lord, tell me it's not so!:mad:

Too bad we can't just get another Warren Theater in that area like had been rumored a few years ago...

Article on NewsOK mentions a rumored Walmart SuperCenter on W Memorial... is that what is actually going to end up being built in this development?

We really can?t help going to the Walmarts | News OK (http://newsok.com/we-really-cant-help-going-to-the-walmarts/article/5438932?earlyAccess=true)

I wouldn't at all be surprised.

They are looking for a big-box anchor.

I wouldn't at all be surprised.

They are looking for a big-box anchor.

How much value does an anchor bring, nowadays? Why not do like Classen Curve and simply build an eclectic shopping experience?

Engineers from MKEC Engineering and about a half dozen others were onsite at this location yesterday morning when I drove by. Maybe more will happen soon.

Engineers from MKEC Engineering and about a half dozen others were onsite at this location yesterday morning when I drove by. Maybe more will happen soon.

Work's been halted out there for a while as there is some sewer pipe that's been sitting there since early spring. I'm betting something went afoul on the plans (unlocated utility, etc) that required a onsite meeting with several parties.

Real estate people I have talked with have all but confirmed that this will be the site of a new Wal-Mart Supercenter.

I have also heard a new WM is going to be built. I wish it was something nicer though.

I have also heard a new WM is going to be built. I wish it was something nicer though.

Its unfortunate but in Oklahoma City there really isn't a lot of competition and that area is ripe for a superstore of some kind. Hopefully it looks more like the one on I-35 in Edmond and less like the eyesore at Penn and Memorial.

LOL... What a shame.

LOL... What a shame.

Any updates on this Walmart? This land is sitting idle and they have even put up gates to keep people out.

Wish it wasn't a Walmart and if it is, I hope the exterior look like Edmond i35 location.

Has anyone heard of rumors of anything else coming out this way. I think everything south of apartments is zoned commercial. So I expect to see restaurants pop up after Walmart opens.

My understanding is that Walmart will purchase a large parcel for a supercenter and then the existing owners will develop the surrounding property as a large shopping center.

Think it's pretty much a done deal.

Any updates on this Walmart? This land is sitting idle and they have even put up gates to keep people out.

Wish it wasn't a Walmart and if it is, I hope the exterior look like Edmond i35 location.

Has anyone heard of rumors of anything else coming out this way. I think everything south of apartments is zoned commercial. So I expect to see restaurants pop up after Walmart opens.

A Wal-Mart there would be huge for Deer Creek schools.

A Wal-Mart there would be huge for Deer Creek schools.

That is true. Just hope they do the site plan right so there isn't a huge traffic issue. I'm just concerned with the kilpatrick westbound exit with people trying to get over to turn on Rockwell. I'm sure there will be lots of development around the Walmart on both east and west side of Rockwell which should benefit DC greatly

That is true. Just hope they do the site plan right so there isn't a huge traffic issue. I'm just concerned with the kilpatrick westbound exit with people trying to get over to turn on Rockwell. I'm sure there will be lots of development around the Walmart on both east and west side of Rockwell which should benefit DC greatly

Very true, that exit will need to be pushed back a bit if that happens.

This is the site plan they show on their website. The project would be called Deer Crest.

The large building on the right is presumably a Warren Theater but now it looks likely that will go near Santa Fe & Memorial instead.

http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/deercrest2.jpg

Very true, that exit will need to be pushed back a bit if that happens.

A double right turn to Rockwell from memorial and a longer turn lane would help. But they don't have that at memorial and penn so I'm not counting on OKC to get things right here either.

Drove by and saw them moving earth and getting ready to build something on a small plot of land in the bigger vacant lot at the corner of the Reno and Rockwell directly across the from the old fitness center that closed up. Anyone know what they're building?

Will be a new 7-11.

Since it appears they are doing nothing this year, I would guess Deer Crest is at least a couple of years out before we see anything significant.

I believe Walmart is close to buying their land in this project, so that part could move pretty quickly. All depends on their schedule.

Jesus Christ man, a Walmart in this development? They really are not kidding when they want to take over OKC's grocery scene. I mean this looks like the type of development you'd see in North Dallas and it's great we're finally seeing these types of things even if it is sprawl, but for a f*cking Walmart to be the anchor? Is this common in other cities?

And for Walmart to be the anchor it probably won't look anything like the rendering. They won't want anything connected to them and will probably build some mediocre looking store.

Walmart doesn't always go free-standing; Westgate Marketplace and Belle Isle are two quick examples.

And they will certainly conform to the design of the center if the developers force that issue.

Walmart doesn't always go free-standing; Westgate Marketplace and Belle Isle are two quick examples.

And they will certainly conform to the design of the center if the developers force that issue.

Those are both free-standing, are they not? They aren't actually attached to any other buildings around them like what is depicted in the rendering upthread. Not disagreeing that they wouldn't build as shown though.

They aren't technically attached to other structures but are in the middle of larger centers and very much a part of them.

I've seen Walmarts in malls with portals directly into the mall. That was a long time ago, though.

http://www.okctalk.com/content.php?r=314-Yet-another-Walmart-Supercenter-planned-for-OKC

http://www.okctalk.com/content.php?r=314-Yet-another-Walmart-Supercenter-planned-for-OKC

The northwest part of the city is probably least saturated by Walmart. This will change quickly when they build this super center and probably at least two or three neighbor markets in the area in the near future.

I wouldn't mind a neighborhood market in the Western and Memorial area where either of those crappy run down shopping strips are. Its time for some redevelopment north of the turnpike near Western. The Oncue was a good start.

I've seen Walmarts in malls with portals directly into the mall. That was a long time ago, though.

I Walmart I went to in California was like that, could only enter it from inside the mall I believe. Was also A 2 story one, I'm guessing it went into an old department store like a Montgomery Wards or something from what it looked like.

I've seen Walmarts in malls with portals directly into the mall. That was a long time ago, though.

Didn't the Shawnee Mall open with a Wal Mart as one of their anchors?

This will be a huge tax booster for Deer Creek Schools, very pumped for that

It would be nice if Walmart just moved their HQ to OKC since they seem bent on having a Walmart every mile or so around the city.