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Plutonic Panda
04-07-2014, 05:04 PM
A new plan to upgrade and renovate parts of the airport have been released.


TULSA – The Tulsa Airports Improvement Trust approved a $113.6 million, five-year capital improvement plan on Thursday.

The final plan will go to the Federal Aviation Administration this month. A draft CIP was presented for discussion with members of the FAA and airport tenants in January.

The CIP is the first step in the FAA’s grant application process, said Jeff Hough, Tulsa International Airport deputy director of engineering and facilities.

The federal government takes TIA’s information and uses it to begin an internal evaluation that prioritizes projects and determines which ones to fund, Hough said. Generally, the FAA staff in Fort Worth, Texas, collects information from all airports in the five-state region: Oklahoma, Arkansas, Texas, Louisiana and New Mexico. The FAA sorts through these plans from April through June and will submit recommendations to its headquarters for evaluation and funding decisions.

Among the 23 projects is a $22 million design and reconstruction project of Taxiway J at TIA. The taxiway carries traffic off the commercial air carrier runway.

The project will be split into two parts, Hough said.

“The FAA cannot cough up that kind of money in one year; it is too much, so we will split this into two phases,” Hough said.
The cost will be between $11 million and $12 million per phase, he said.

“The project does lend itself into being split into two phases,” Hough said.

Splitting the Taxiway J reconstruction into two phases is expected to add another $1 million to the project, Hough said.

Also, TIA officials plan to spend $700,000 to demolish several cargo buildings in the southwest corner of the airport. The site clearing of dilapidated cargo buildings is necessary for redevelopment, according to the CIP.

The CIP calls for $150,000 on planning for a multimodal facility at the airport. The facility will interface between various forms of transportation: air, barges from the Tulsa Port of Catoosa, rail and highway, according to the CIP. Initial phases of the project include concept development, environmental studies, land acquisition and preliminary engineering work.

Tulsa has various forms of transportation available adjacent to TIA. The project takes advantage of those opportunities and would promote a variety of airport-related development, according to the CIP.

The trust also approved a six-month agreement with Kyle Smith, owner of Family Fun, for music service at the terminal. The service will allow people in the terminal to purchase songs at the rate of two for a dollar. The service will cost the airport $204 per month, said Alexis Higgins, deputy director of marketing. However, the airport will receive 40 percent of the revenue generated by the service. Currently, music is piped into the airport.

A device that resembles a jukebox will be set up in Concourse B. The service will launch next week, said Daniel Meier, air service development coordinator.

“Just waiting on the paperwork,” Meier said.

If the service is renewed, another device would be added in Concourse A following renovation. The $23 million renovation of Concourse A will take another 15 months and, once complete, will house operations for Delta, American and Allegiant airlines.

Jeff Smith, senior project manager for Flintco, which is managing the Concourse A renovation, presented three contracts for board approval.
A $168,736 contract was awarded to American Terrazzo for flooring of Concourse A. The contract amount was $34,771 below the engineer’s estimate of $203,507.

A $65,685 contract was awarded to Vale Painting Co. The amount was $21,932 below the engineer’s estimate. A $25,245 contract was awarded to Osiyo Metals LLC for decorative metal railings. The amount was $7,321 below the engineer’s estimate.

The trust also approved a $15,597 change order with Contech Inc. and will add the installation of a passenger boarding bridge foundation at Gate A-10. The installation will support an airline request to provide a second parking position capable of accommodating a wide-body aircraft. The change order represents 5.2 percent of the total $316,515 cost for the concrete portion of the Concourse A renovation.

In a related move, the trust approved a $27,116 change order that will move a passenger boarding bridge at Gate A-8 to Gate A-10 to accommodate a request to have a second parking position for a wide-body aircraft.

Once construction is complete at Concourse A, airlines will be able to use Gates A7 or Gate A9, depending on the jet bridge placement, or Gate A10. The gates will be renumbered following the renovation. Currently, the only gate capable of handling wide-body aircraft is Gate 25.

- http://journalrecord.com/2014/03/13/tulsa-airports-improvement-trust-approves-capital-improvement-plan-aerospace/

s00nr1
04-07-2014, 05:40 PM
Good for them. Unfortunately it will take that amount of money just to bring that airport up to par with WRWA.

BG918
04-07-2014, 05:45 PM
The Tulsa airport has seen ongoing renovation for the past few years, starting with the centralized security checkpoint (there used to be two separate ones for each concourse) and improvements to Concourse B. I wish they had enlarged the width of the concourse because it still feels small when there are boarding planes on each side but it's much nicer than it used to be. The renovations were funded from ticket and landing fees so they didn't exactly have a huge budget to rebuild everything, and they also have to fund the runway reconstruction.

Plutonic Panda
04-08-2014, 01:25 PM
Update on the Tulsa Air and Space Museum at the airport


Tulsa Air & Space Museum Opens Its Newest Exhibit

TULSA, Oklahoma - The Tulsa Air and Space Museum at Tulsa International Airport cut the ribbon on its newest exhibit Monday morning. The exhibit is an American Airlines MD-80 aircraft. The airline donated the retired plane in 2010.

TASM says Monday's event marked the end of a three-year project to turn the aircraft into a multi-purpose facility. Inside the airplane, visitors will see the cockpit and 24 first-class cabin seats.

For Julie Soper, a 35 year veteran Flight Attendant at American Airlines who used to fly in this very aircraft, it brings back fond memories.

"It's amazing! Totally clean, new, it's going to be great for education," Soper said.

Soper was among several Americans Airlines executives, museum staff and pilots who got a first glimpse into the revamped MD-80.

"We are extremely grateful for the corporate citizenship displayed by American Airlines through their donation of this multi-million dollar asset," said Tulsa Air and Space Museum & Planetarium Board President, Carmine Romano.

TASM officials say the remaining cabin area will be left open as a classroom and even a party venue.

Ray Booker is a 1957 OSU graduate, with a degree in aeronautical engineering. He helped come up with this concept for the plane, and thinks they'll eventually set up experiment stations, to help students with problem-solving skills.

"So they get to pick an engine and put it one there, and if they pick the wrong one, the airplane won't get off the ground. Or you pick a rocket engine, and it gets off the ground, but it crashes," Booker said.

- Tulsa Air & Space Museum Cuts Ribbon Opening Its Newest Exhibit - News9.com - Oklahoma City, OK - News, Weather, Video and Sports | (http://www.news9.com/story/25183058/tulsa-air-space-museum-cuts-ribbon-opening-its-newest-exhibit)

Plutonic Panda
08-22-2014, 01:34 PM
Tulsa airport sees biggest gain in a decade - Tulsa World: Businesshomepage2 (http://www.tulsaworld.com/businesshomepage2/tulsa-airport-sees-biggest-gain-in-a-decade/article_9915a9cb-0dab-5220-890b-4cd57f1d927e.html)

Plutonic Panda
09-15-2014, 10:08 AM
Tulsa Airport board approves air service incentives increase - Tulsa World: Aerospace (http://www.tulsaworld.com/business/aerospace/tulsa-airport-board-approves-air-service-incentives-increase/article_013fa104-4e74-50d8-a110-a6c59707ca3a.html)

Plutonic Panda
10-10-2014, 02:02 PM
Tulsa Airport reports 10th straight month of increased passenger traffic - Tulsa World: American Airlines (http://www.tulsaworld.com/business/americanairlines/tulsa-airport-reports-th-straight-month-of-increased-passenger-traffic/article_362bb07a-cc95-513d-93c3-0d95670e37c5.html)

HOT ROD
10-12-2014, 06:59 PM
so they're back to where they started from. Good news.

Plutonic Panda
11-06-2014, 02:01 PM
Concourse A now in operation at Tulsa International Airport

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Tulsa International Airport officially opened the north end of Concourse A on Wednesday morning after completing the second phase of a $30.6 million renovation project, which will continue into next year.

Airport customers are seeing renovated restrooms, included a newly added family facility, and new seating with power-charging stations. The Concourse A ceilings were raised and a skylight added to bring in additional sunlight.

“The airport terminal provides the first and last opportunity to impact a visitor’s perception of our City,” Airports Director Jeff Mulder said in a news release. “The concourse renovations allow us to greatly enhance our passengers’ experience while improving the operational efficiency of our facility.”

- Concourse A now in operation at Tulsa International Airport - Tulsa World: Aerospace (http://www.tulsaworld.com/business/aerospace/concourse-a-now-in-operation-at-tulsa-international-airport/article_0162412b-e451-52eb-a955-917462c9876d.html?mode=story)

ljbab728
11-06-2014, 09:55 PM
I've never been inside of the Tulsa airport (only on a plane that made a stop there) so I'm not familiar with what it looked like previously. I'll take their word that it's a great improvement but it's not particularly impressive. It probably was the best they could do without a tear down and rebuild like OKC did.

BG918
11-06-2014, 11:22 PM
The renovation is a nice improvement. I like the mid century feel at the Tulsa airport but wish they would've rebuilt the concourses making them wider with higher ceilings and more glass.

Plutonic Panda
11-24-2014, 10:13 PM
TIF district considered for area around Tulsa airport - Tulsa World: Businesshomepage2 (http://www.tulsaworld.com/businesshomepage2/tif-district-considered-for-area-around-tulsa-airport/article_e57d5c08-e01c-5081-ade3-f57f8570694a.html)

bombermwc
12-04-2014, 10:10 AM
I tend to agree with jibjab. When you can't tear the whole sucker down, you're limited, but they have been able to open the space up some so it's not so old-school closed-in. The skylights definitely help make it not so cramped feeling.

Plutonic Panda
12-12-2014, 12:05 AM
On deck: TAIT approves $24M for expanding parking | The Journal Record (http://journalrecord.com/2014/12/11/on-deck-tia-approves-24m-for-expanding-parking-aerospace/)

Plutonic Panda
03-12-2015, 10:49 PM
Level up: TAIT awards $26M contract to add parking | The Journal Record (http://journalrecord.com/2015/03/12/level-up-tia-approves-contract-to-add-parking-aerospace/)

Plutonic Panda
01-12-2016, 04:45 PM
Tulsa International Adds Non-Stop Flight To Baltimore/Washington - News9.com - Oklahoma City, OK - News, Weather, Video and Sports | (http://www.news9.com/story/30944914/allegiant-airlines-to-expand-non-stop-service-out-of-tulsa)

TU 'cane
01-13-2016, 09:37 AM
Subtleties such as adding non-stop flights to larger cities helps draw in other businesses.
Hope they keep coming.

BG918
01-13-2016, 08:28 PM
Subtleties such as adding non-stop flights to larger cities helps draw in other businesses.
Hope they keep coming.

Unfortunately this add is at the expense of the United flight to IAD (Dulles). United cut its flight to Newark last year. TUL still lacks good connectivity to the major NE cities and West Coast. For comparison OKC has at least a daily non stop to Newark, Dulles, Baltimore, Seattle, San Francisco and Los Angeles. With Allegiant TUL only has Los Angeles and Baltimore, no major carriers which is a big problem for attracting new business.

ljbab728
01-13-2016, 09:58 PM
Unfortunately this add is at the expense of the United flight to IAD (Dulles). United cut its flight to Newark last year. TUL still lacks good connectivity to the major NE cities and West Coast. For comparison OKC has at least a daily non stop to Newark, Dulles, Baltimore, Seattle, San Francisco and Los Angeles. With Allegiant TUL only has Los Angeles and Baltimore, no major carriers which is a big problem for attracting new business.

There is also the fact that the Baltimore service is not daily. That isn't good for business travelers.

catch22
01-13-2016, 10:37 PM
Allegiant type offerings do nothing for the business community in really any airport they serve. Daily service is essential to cater to the business traveler market.

BG918
01-13-2016, 11:11 PM
Allegiant type offerings do nothing for the business community in really any airport they serve. Daily service is essential to cater to the business traveler market.

Exactly. Hopefully TUL is able to expand or restart service to these markets if the demand is there. Doubtful in the short-term with O&G dragging down the Tulsa economy.

HangryHippo
12-01-2017, 11:08 AM
This is good news for AA's maintenance base at TUL:

http://www.tulsaworld.com/business/americanairlines/american-airlines-maintenance-base-in-tulsa-to-get-new-engine/article_76362077-a7d9-5153-b220-3cff87406255.html

macfoucin
05-21-2021, 02:44 PM
"The Tulsa International Airport announced Friday that a new, low-cost airline carrier is choosing Tulsa as one of the first cities it will service.

Breeze Airways will begin nonstop service from Tulsa to New Orleans, San Antonio, and Tampa on June 4.

Tulsa will be one of the first 16 cities in the Breeze route network."

https://ktul.com/news/local/tulsa-international-airport-05-21-2021

Celebrator
05-21-2021, 08:29 PM
Seasonally, TUL is going to have the "Bay Area" well covered with service to TPA on Breeze and PIE on G4. If any Tulsans have regular business or second homes down there, this is the jackpot.

BG918
05-22-2021, 03:32 PM
Seasonally, TUL is going to have the "Bay Area" well covered with service to TPA on Breeze and PIE on G4. If any Tulsans have regular business or second homes down there, this is the jackpot.

Now just need service to the other Bay Area in California. Frontier had SJC service but ended it. I’d like to see United to SFO and Southwest to OAK.

progressiveboy
05-23-2021, 11:13 PM
Hate to say this, but OKC airport is much better and more nice than Tulsa airport. Plus, OKC logistically is better situated for direct flights. Just my opinion.

Celebrator
05-24-2021, 10:05 AM
. ...OKC logistically is better situated for direct flights. Just my opinion.

Can't speak to the first part of your quote, because I have never been to TUL at all, but what's the thought behind this part of your statement. And when you say, "direct" flights, do you mean non-stop? There's actually a technical difference in the industry.

BG918
05-24-2021, 11:29 AM
Hate to say this, but OKC airport is much better and more nice than Tulsa airport. Plus, OKC logistically is better situated for direct flights. Just my opinion.

The two airports are only 120 miles apart how is one positioned better than the other? And with the recent improvements both airports are pretty nice. I like the high ceilings and wider concourses at OKC and wish TUL could eventually do something like that in the concourses. At the same time I prefer the wide open and high ceiling security area and baggage claim areas at TUL to the closed off and lower ceiling areas at OKC. Access to the rest of the city is easy from both airports.

BoulderSooner
05-24-2021, 11:51 AM
The two airports are only 120 miles apart how is one positioned better than the other? And with the recent improvements both airports are pretty nice. I like the high ceilings and wider concourses at OKC and wish TUL could eventually do something like that in the concourses. At the same time I prefer the wide open and high ceiling security area and baggage claim areas at TUL to the closed off and lower ceiling areas at OKC. Access to the rest of the city is easy from both airports.

because one is in OKC and one is not

shavethewhales
05-24-2021, 01:53 PM
OKC's airport just got some major upgrades, so I'm not surprised to hear that it is nicer than Tulsa's. OKC is also obviously a bit larger than Tulsa, so again I expect things to be a little bigger and maybe better there. I have no complaints about TIA though and love flying in and out of it regularly. We may be due for an airport upgrade within the next ten years, but for now it is exactly right sized.

I'm about to book one of those Breeze flights to Tampa! Looks like you have to pay extra for the package that includes a carry-on though, not sure how many people are able to figure out how to travel without any baggage whatsoever... seems a little misleading to me, but that is the low-price airline game for you. Even still, it looks like it will be about $250 round trip - not bad!

Snowman
05-24-2021, 06:00 PM
OKC's airport just got some major upgrades, so I'm not surprised to hear that it is nicer than Tulsa's. OKC is also obviously a bit larger than Tulsa, so again I expect things to be a little bigger and maybe better there. I have no complaints about TIA though and love flying in and out of it regularly. We may be due for an airport upgrade within the next ten years, but for now it is exactly right sized.

I'm about to book one of those Breeze flights to Tampa! Looks like you have to pay extra for the package that includes a carry-on though, not sure how many people are able to figure out how to travel without any baggage whatsoever... seems a little misleading to me, but that is the low-price airline game for you. Even still, it looks like it will be about $250 round trip - not bad!

Tulsa also heavily renovated their airport in the last decade, though they did not do as extreme a renovation as OKC did around 2000, Tulsa basically gutted and rebuilt the interior and systems (like HVAC and plumbing). Though kept the structural shell of the main terminal and the old concourses, plus it's much lower ceilings throughout the building did not help their latitude to modernize the buildings style.

Laramie
05-24-2021, 08:20 PM
Oklahoma needs one airport to get back on true International flight status; where you don't have to go to Dallas or St. Louis to connect with flights to Mexico. I know DFW has cornered the market on this; Oklahoma needs direct flight to places like Mexico where you don't have to drive to Dallas to board a flight or fly from Will Rogers or Tulsa International to Dallas to connect. TUL & OKC should work out some kind of partnership to make this happen.

That way you would have a shorter drive from Oklahoma City or Tulsa to take an International flight from one of Oklahoma's two major airports.

Flights could IMO originate from either Oklahoma City or Tulsa.

BTW: Do you remember Tulsa based Great Plains Airlines (GP); IMO it would have worked better (Long-tern) had it been based at Will Rogers World Airport. The real concern with GP, they didn't have the capital to maintain and build on established flights in additional to the places where they were flying.

gopokes88
05-24-2021, 10:48 PM
Such a nonsensical idea.

BG918
05-24-2021, 11:45 PM
It’s really not a big deal to fly to DFW, IAH or ORD and connect for international flights. I could see flights eventually to Cancun and maybe Cabo San Lucas in Mexico, and possibly Toronto in Canada. I would prefer to see more domestic routes and more frequency to the main hubs.

Swake
05-25-2021, 12:30 AM
He wants Tulsa to give up TIA so that OKC can have a more important airport? That's stupid and does zero for anyone in Tulsa. You know, about the average for the state of Oklahoma.

Laramie
05-25-2021, 08:34 AM
He wants Tulsa to give up TIA so that OKC can have a more important airport? That's stupid and does zero for anyone in Tulsa. You know, about the average for the state of Oklahoma.


Oklahoma needs one airport to get back on true International flight status; where you don't have to go to Dallas or St. Louis to connect with flights to Mexico. I know DFW has cornered the market on this; Oklahoma needs direct flight to places like Mexico where you don't have to drive to Dallas to board a flight or fly from Will Rogers or Tulsa International to Dallas to connect. TUL & OKC should work out some kind of partnership to make this happen.

That way you would have a shorter drive from Oklahoma City or Tulsa to take an International flight from one of Oklahoma's two major airports.

Flights could IMO originate from either Oklahoma City or Tulsa.

BTW: Do you remember Tulsa based Great Plains Airlines (GP); IMO it would have worked better (Long-tern) had it been based at Will Rogers World Airport. The real concern with GP, they didn't have the capital to maintain and build on established flights in additional to the places where they were flying.

Read carefully, instead of getting defensive 'Flights could originate from either Oklahoma City or Tulsa. Where does it say Tulsa or Oklahoma City gives up anything.

Both of Oklahoma's major airports are growing, renovating and expanding... A partnership means working together and coordinating--saving you a drive or additional flight to Dallas.

Celebrator
05-25-2021, 09:52 AM
He wants Tulsa to give up TIA so that OKC can have a more important airport? That's stupid and does zero for anyone in Tulsa. You know, about the average for the state of Oklahoma.

I don't even understand this comment.

gopokes88
05-25-2021, 10:54 AM
A solution in search of a problem.

1. Connect to DFW via OKC, Stillwater, Tulsa or Lawton.
2. Drive to DFW.

Or

Spend millions to try and get an international flight that may or may not work.

BG918
05-25-2021, 11:13 AM
A solution in search of a problem.

1. Connect to DFW via OKC, Stillwater, Tulsa or Lawton.
2. Drive to DFW.

Or

Spend millions to try and get an international flight that may or may not work.

Exactly. Though as I mentioned Mexico beach resorts like Cancun or Cabo could work on a 1x or 2x/week basis from an airline like Allegiant or Frontier. I think Toronto could work too on AC down the road especially with customs preclearance and all of the European flight options from YYZ. But that’s really it. Otherwise fly the short hop to DFW or ORD, IAH, DEN, ATL or LAX and fly to pretty much anywhere.

gopokes88
05-25-2021, 11:19 AM
Exactly. Though as I mentioned Mexico beach resorts like Cancun or Cabo could work on a 1x or 2x/week basis from an airline like Allegiant or Frontier. I think Toronto could work too on AC down the road especially with customs preclearance and all of the European flight options from YYZ. But that’s really it. Otherwise fly the short hop to DFW or ORD, IAH, DEN, ATL or LAX and fly to pretty much anywhere.

OKC-SEA on Alaska connects Japan pretty easily as well.

BG918
05-25-2021, 07:56 PM
OKC-SEA on Alaska connects Japan pretty easily as well.

That is a flight I hope to see in Tulsa soon. One of the biggest holes along with NYC, San Francisco and Miami/South Florida.

BG918
06-28-2021, 08:32 PM
The old Clarion Hotel is being demolished and will be replaced by a new hotel. This is right at the entrance to the airport across from the Hilton Garden Inn.
https://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/tulsaworld.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/c/82/c823f0a2-d81f-11eb-a301-ebf6d8d0e3f7/60d9e1826e9ba.image.jpg?crop=1696%2C755%2C110%2C20 6&resize=1200%2C534&order=crop%2Cresize

https://tulsaworld.com/business/local/local-company-developing-12-million-hotel-at-tulsa-international-airport/article_7c258a98-d81b-11eb-9839-6bba196eacde.html?utm_campaign=snd-autopilot&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook_&fbclid=IwAR0gxIQO-RyAsAIMTcJqn334y-VxX4dYP-35F1Bs4Fb0Cum9S1jhKM2bAH0

bombermwc
06-29-2021, 08:28 AM
Neither OKC nor Tulsa are going to just close their airports, come on guys. Remember AA has a major facility at TUL too. So that alone means that place isn't going anywhere, even if they dont have as much people traffic as OKC. But seriously, would you expect anyone to drive 2 hours from a major metro area, just to get on an airplane? If you live in Enid, that's a given as part of where you live. But living in OKC/TUL, you know you'll either MAYBE have a direct if you're going somewhere big, or like everyone else then you'll connect somewhere else and puddle jump to the hub.

Look at Mobile and Pensacola. It's a pretty good comparison. Their difference is the physical Mobile Bay separating them. They already share TV affiliates, but they both have small (12 gate or less) airports and both refuse to give it up. MOB charges insane rates to fly there, which is why Pensacola built theirs. And the majority of the development is on the east side of the bay now, and so those folks go to Pensacola. Gulf Shores is on the east side, so again more people fly to Pensacola now. MOB is the actual larger city, but they're missing out on the traffic. However, you won't see either of them close and let the other "win". They'd rather both stay smaller and give the locals the shorter "to-airport" drive time.

gopokes88
06-29-2021, 10:06 AM
Neither OKC nor Tulsa are going to just close their airports, come on guys. Remember AA has a major facility at TUL too. So that alone means that place isn't going anywhere, even if they dont have as much people traffic as OKC. But seriously, would you expect anyone to drive 2 hours from a major metro area, just to get on an airplane? If you live in Enid, that's a given as part of where you live. But living in OKC/TUL, you know you'll either MAYBE have a direct if you're going somewhere big, or like everyone else then you'll connect somewhere else and puddle jump to the hub.

Look at Mobile and Pensacola. It's a pretty good comparison. Their difference is the physical Mobile Bay separating them. They already share TV affiliates, but they both have small (12 gate or less) airports and both refuse to give it up. MOB charges insane rates to fly there, which is why Pensacola built theirs. And the majority of the development is on the east side of the bay now, and so those folks go to Pensacola. Gulf Shores is on the east side, so again more people fly to Pensacola now. MOB is the actual larger city, but they're missing out on the traffic. However, you won't see either of them close and let the other "win". They'd rather both stay smaller and give the locals the shorter "to-airport" drive time.

It's the most ridiculous idea that just won't die. Spend $10 billion to build an airport in the middle of no where too.....get a flight to mexico.

Celebrator
08-10-2021, 11:00 PM
Allegiant is expanding their presence even further at TUL. New upcoming service just in time for the winter:
SRQ (Sarasota)-begins Dec. 15
AZA (Phoenix-Mesa)-begins Nov. 18

These are the 7th and 8th routes from TUL for Allegiant. TUL now has or will have 6 nonstop destinations total across all airlines to Florida-VPS, SFB, TPA, PIE, SRQ, & MIA, That's really something--especially to the Tampa Bay area!

A couple of ponderings:

-TUL now has DOUBLE the Allegiant destinations that OKC has. Wonder why they are doing so much better, it seems, overall in that market up there?

-More specifically, it is interesting that OKC has only four Florida markets in comparison: VPS, Orlando (MCO & SFB), TPA, and MIA. Again, wonder why Florida seems to be a better market from TUL than OKC? Are Tulsans more oriented towards Florida vacations like the rest of the South and the Midwest where even mid-sized markets have tons of service to FL? It seems to me OKC folks tend to go west more often for vacation--simply anecdotal evidence. Wondering why Allegiant doesn't try that Phoenix-Mesa service from OKC.

Just thoughts from an av geek...

Snowman
08-11-2021, 06:11 AM
If Allegiant is still using American Airlines Maintenance Services for maintenance checks, then the frequency of planes they need to get in for checks could play a factor in their level of passenger service to Tulsa at any given time.

gopokes88
08-12-2021, 08:20 AM
Allegiant is expanding their presence even further at TUL. New upcoming service just in time for the winter:
SRQ (Sarasota)-begins Dec. 15
AZA (Phoenix-Mesa)-begins Nov. 18

These are the 7th and 8th routes from TUL for Allegiant. TUL now has or will have 6 nonstop destinations total across all airlines to Florida-VPS, SFB, TPA, PIE, SRQ, & MIA, That's really something--especially to the Tampa Bay area!

A couple of ponderings:

-TUL now has DOUBLE the Allegiant destinations that OKC has. Wonder why they are doing so much better, it seems, overall in that market up there?

-More specifically, it is interesting that OKC has only four Florida markets in comparison: VPS, Orlando (MCO & SFB), TPA, and MIA. Again, wonder why Florida seems to be a better market from TUL than OKC? Are Tulsans more oriented towards Florida vacations like the rest of the South and the Midwest where even mid-sized markets have tons of service to FL? It seems to me OKC folks tend to go west more often for vacation--simply anecdotal evidence. Wondering why Allegiant doesn't try that Phoenix-Mesa service from OKC.

Just thoughts from an av geek...

Catch will have a better answer. But it seems like allegiant goes where AA isn’t. Okc has picked up a lot of AA flights lately.

shavethewhales
08-12-2021, 11:12 AM
I am loving the cheap flights to random touristy destinations. I did Tampa in July and had a blast. I used Breeze Airlines, which was a fantastic experience all around. Haven't tried Allegiant yet, since I heard horror stories about their maintenance years ago, but may give them a try soon.

Our maintenance base is such a god send. I'm still gritting my teeth that AA doesn't falter again and makes a strong come back. If AA ever goes under Tulsa is screwed in so many ways.

chssooner
08-12-2021, 11:27 AM
Heck, Tulsa may soon have more destinations than OKC, given Allegiant's love affair with them.

OKC needs to step it up, given airlines are handing out routes like candy right now.

Celebrator
08-12-2021, 12:16 PM
I am loving the cheap flights to random touristy destinations. I did Tampa in July and had a blast. I used Breeze Airlines, which was a fantastic experience all around. Haven't tried Allegiant yet, since I heard horror stories about their maintenance years ago, but may give them a try soon.

Our maintenance base is such a god send. I'm still gritting my teeth that AA doesn't falter again and makes a strong come back. If AA ever goes under Tulsa is screwed in so many ways.

I have not heard Allegiant horror stories in several years now, they have really gotten much better from what I understand. For one, their fleet is much more reliable--they are even buying new airplanes now. Glad to hear you Breeze experience was good. I want to use them from OKC sometime soon.

gopokes88
08-12-2021, 01:22 PM
Heck, Tulsa may soon have more destinations than OKC, given Allegiant's love affair with them.

OKC needs to step it up, given airlines are handing out routes like candy right now.

OKC's route map looks awesome right now. They have stepped it up.

chssooner
08-12-2021, 02:01 PM
OKC's route map looks awesome right now. They have stepped it up.

It does, but OKC has a lot of double routes (meaning 2 airlines going to same place). Austin, Tampa, New Orleans. 1 will die off, unfortunately. Where as OKC needs to be going after places they don't currently have now. PDX and BOS are at the very top of my list. Otherwise, Tulsa will have more unique locales than OKC. They have been adding new locations almost weekly.

BG918
08-12-2021, 04:14 PM
TUL needs a few of the recent adds that OKC has to shore up its business community.

United: SFO, IAD and EWR (resume service to IAD and EWR)
American: LGA
Alaska: SEA
Southwest: BWI and BNA
Delta: DTW (resume service)

Celebrator
08-12-2021, 05:29 PM
TUL needs a few of the recent adds that OKC has to shore up its business community.

United: SFO, IAD and EWR (resume service to IAD and EWR)
American: LGA
Alaska: SEA
Southwest: BWI and BNA
Delta: DTW (resume service)

Yes, TUL has hit the leisure destination jackpot but lags OKC and even XNA on the business travel side. By the way, I don't think WN has brought back BWI at this point.

Plutonic Panda
10-19-2022, 08:15 PM
Breeze Airways announcing new nonstop to Orlando:

https://okcfox.com/newsletter-daily/breeze-airways-announces-new-nonstop-flight-from-tulsa-to-orlando#

formerly405Tulsan
10-21-2022, 08:44 AM
Breeze Airways announcing new nonstop to Orlando:

https://okcfox.com/newsletter-daily/breeze-airways-announces-new-nonstop-flight-from-tulsa-to-orlando#

Best part of this is the through service to Charleston.

ComeOnBenjals!
10-13-2024, 08:12 PM
Nice rundown of the many projects, large and small, happening at Tulsa International Airport.

Via the TulsaWorld: https://tulsaworld.com/news/local/business/making-tulsas-airport-modern-and-truly-international-updates-on-160-million-in-projects/article_53f533b6-81b4-11ef-92f5-6b21668319d1.html?utm_campaign=snd-autopilot&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook_Tulsa_World

The airport continues to increase passengers and add additional routes. 2023 ended the year at 3,144,567 total passengers, an 8.8% increase over 2022 and a 4.6% increase over 2019. 2024 through August is up 4.56% from 2023. TIA recently added an additional direct to NYC (Delta). It also announced a SWA direct to Nashville starting in early 2025.

• Artwork: A new $225,000 rotating ceiling artwork by Tulsa artist Shane Darwent has been completed.

• New airport entry sign/monument at main vehicle entrance: $1.7 million. Construction underway. Completion expected in November.

• Lounge: A new $2.3 million lounge that has locally-sourced food and beverages, in-house chefs and high-speed Wi-Fi, is expected to open by January.

• New vestibules (passenger/visitor entry and exits): $2.8 million. The airport is replacing the revolving doors with sets of double-sliding doors. Completion is expected this spring.

• Customs facility: $42 million. The 45,000-square-foot facility for international passengers is under construction on the southeast side of the airport’s main terminal. Completion is expected in early 2026.

• Control tower: $110 million. Construction is underway. Completion is anticipated by late 2027, depending on the Federal Aviation Administration, equipment and other factors.

ComeOnBenjals!
10-13-2024, 08:13 PM
Nice rundown of the many projects, large and small, happening at Tulsa International Airport.

Via the TulsaWorld: https://tulsaworld.com/news/local/business/making-tulsas-airport-modern-and-truly-international-updates-on-160-million-in-projects/article_53f533b6-81b4-11ef-92f5-6b21668319d1.html?utm_campaign=snd-autopilot&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook_Tulsa_World

The airport continues to increase passengers and add additional routes. 2023 ended the year at 3,144,567 total passengers, an 8.8% increase over 2022 and a 4.6% increase over 2019. 2024 through August is up 4.56% from 2023. TIA recently added an additional direct to NYC (Delta). It also announced a SWA direct to Nashville starting in early 2025.

• Artwork: A new $225,000 rotating ceiling artwork by Tulsa artist Shane Darwent has been completed.

• New airport entry sign/monument at main vehicle entrance: $1.7 million. Construction underway. Completion expected in November.

• Lounge: A new $2.3 million lounge that has locally-sourced food and beverages, in-house chefs and high-speed Wi-Fi, is expected to open by January.

• New vestibules (passenger/visitor entry and exits): $2.8 million. The airport is replacing the revolving doors with sets of double-sliding doors. Completion is expected this spring.

• Customs facility: $42 million. The 45,000-square-foot facility for international passengers is under construction on the southeast side of the airport’s main terminal. Completion is expected in early 2026.

• Control tower: $110 million. Construction is underway. Completion is anticipated by late 2027, depending on the Federal Aviation Administration, equipment and other factors.