This would definitely be cool. So many people think I am talking about Deep Deuce Apartments when I mention "Deep Deuce".

Dig the signage.

This would be fantastic, especially for the lighting under the bridge.

Deep Deuce could become neighborhood other cities only dream about | News OK (http://newsok.com/deep-deuce-could-become-neighborhood-other-cities-only-dream-about/article/5465511)

In my opinion Deep Deuce needs a major retail corridor to become a district that other cities envy. I think it could happen north of the district going up towards the Metropolitan. Retail though requires synergy and will require more developers to work together to help create it. Without it, you will have bars and restaurants here and there and maybe some boutique shops, but not the kind of urban retail corridor that hopefully the neighborhood one day has.

In addition, I completely agree with the article concerning better lighting and signage.

I never know where to post pictures of this random house.

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From Saturday.

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I never know where to post pictures of this random house.

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It's definitely part of the Maywood Brownstones complex, but is more "in the spirit of" than an additional brownstone.

I saw that there's a 'for sale' sign for the lots on the north and south side of NE 3rd between Central and Russell M Perry, between the apartment buildings.

Aren't those ROW?

If not, I'd love to see those other lots in Dee Deuce developed.

If you really want to appreciate OKC's renaissance, take a look at this image of Deep Deuce in 1995.

http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o214/bchris02/Deep%20Deuce%201995_zpscspe5slh.jpg

Thinking about moving into the Deep Duece Apartments in a couple months. Anybody know anything about them, good or bad??

If you really want to appreciate OKC's renaissance, take a look at this image of Deep Deuce in 1995.

http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o214/bchris02/Deep%20Deuce%201995_zpscspe5slh.jpg

Yes. I love the timeline feature in Google Earth. I once created a GIF of Deep Deuce's evolution the past 20 years. It's really something to admire.

Does anyone remember when did the Deep Deuce Apartments began construction? Or when they opened? Thanks.

On edit: The Deep Deuce Apartments opened in 2001. I consider them to be the first step of Deep Deuce's transformation into the vibrant, urban neighborhood it is now. Impressive.

Thinking about moving into the Deep Duece Apartments in a couple months. Anybody know anything about them, good or bad??

I lived there for four years when they opened. Couldn't beat the location and the apartments were brand new at the time. They have had management changes over the years, and have probably updated the units, but i cannot offer commentary about what they are like now.

I lived there about 7 months ago and lived in one of the brand new updated units. I really enjoyed my time there. No issues with management and the location was awesome.

Does anyone know if any of these apartment complexes do short term leases? someone I know needs a place for 3 months during the summer for an internship. Thanks in advance

I believe so. I remember being offered a 1 month lease at the end of my term. They are also popular with military because of their flexibility with leases. I do know the 1 month lease option is significantly more expense.

I think Maywood does a six; you might check with them to see if they'll work with your friend on something shorter.

Definitely checkout Maywood or even DDA - I am sure they will work with you. The competition is rowdy in DD.

I believe so. I remember being offered a 1 month lease at the end of my term. They are also popular with military because of their flexibility with leases. I do know the 1 month lease option is significantly more expense.

Just FYI the military doesn't need "flexible" leases. With orders they can break any lease with no penalty at any time. Per federal law

If you really want to appreciate OKC's renaissance, take a look at this image of Deep Deuce in 1995.

http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o214/bchris02/Deep%20Deuce%201995_zpscspe5slh.jpg

Can someone do a sliding before/after photo with this image? That would be cool to see.

Just FYI the military doesn't need "flexible" leases. With orders they can break any lease with no penalty at any time. Per federal law

ok

http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/deepdeuce050316.jpg

Did I miss an already proposed midrise development?

Nothing firm... 4th & EK Gaylord.

Long standing rumors about mid-rise residential / office.

I'd love to see something firm! Even something in the range of 4-6 stories (residential) is good infill.

I'm hearing more in the 15-18 range.

Hey, I'm one of those that likes height (I know, go ahead and set me on fire now), and think something in that range that could reach anywhere between 200-300 feet would look great and only add in another point to look at for all the people who are and will be living on the East side of town in BT, DD, etc. Hope it comes through, would be another great project to watch unfold and rise.

15 to 18 floors would be a fantastic addition there. It would fit in will with other buildings on that corner. As soon as a residential tower proves successful in OKC, it will convince banks to open up their wallets to finance more.

I think a tower like this one proposed for the Pearl District in Portland would go well on the 4th & EK Gaylord site. As a mixed use (residential/retail) 16 story tower, it seems to be in the same ballpark as what is being talked about.

http://www.nextportland.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/1430_glisan_dar2_img_01-1024x663.jpg

Hey, I'm one of those that likes height (I know, go ahead and set me on fire now), .
You're lucky I live in LA. ;)

Why does this sidewalk not connect? Seems like it could help people find the Wedge from Aloft and other parts of the district.

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I've thought it should for years. I assumed it had something to do with the incline. Not sure.

Yea, likely would not be ADA compliant as a direct connection, would need to be zig-zagged or staired.

Weird how it's better to not have a sidewalk than to have one that is non-ADA. I get it, but there's a bit of irony.

I'm not 100% sure of which lot that us, but there are a number of lots sprinkled throughout the DD apartments that could not be acquired for the development. They leapfrogged them, and of course could/would not build connecting sidewalks across someone else's property.

That said, "no sidewalk/steps if ADA cannot be included" is a real thing. It has caused some issues as we have looked at better access for all in other parts of downtown; in some areas where there is not room for a ramp but which would still benefit greatly from stairs the choice has been made to provide nothing at all lest it be an ADA violation. Steep grade separations provide the biggest challenge because the length of ramping and number of landings required make the solution take up so much space as to be impractical. It's a tough catch 22.

I'm not 100% sure of which lot that us, but there are a number of lots sprinkled throughout the DD apartments that could not be acquired for the development. They leapfrogged them, and of course could/would not build connecting sidewalks across someone else's property.

I took the picture right after walking over the Walnut bridge. So it's across the street from the Aloft and that sidewalk connects to the street the Wedge is on...

It would actually be cool if the Wedge could have a little Wedge sign (maybe like the little R&Js sign on 10th) where that sidewalk should connect so people would know there's a great pizza place just down the hill.

To illustrate where you're talking about, this incomplete walkway is here:
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According to the Oklahoma County Assessor's Office, there's a slender parcel of land here not owned by the apartment complex, and that sidewalk would have to cross this non-owned land. That is very likely to be the reason why the sidewalk doesn't exist here.

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Yup, there you go. The DD Apartments generally seem like a cohesive unit, but they are actually a patchwork of land.

My fiance and I would try and connect with stray cats right there on our way to bricktown from DD. I really wish that some progress could be made on chipping away what the railroad company owns there. It's limited, but could be an interesting project.

That highlighted parcel in my post above isn't owned by the railroad - it's actually owned by a private owner. As for the Union Pacific rail corridor, that is very unlikely to go away - and in fact has a decent chance of being reactivated within the next few years. The City contracted with UPRR to do a feasibility study of rehabilitating this corridor and building a new rail bridge to get trains up to the Santa Fe Station platform, in support of projects like the Eastern Flyer passenger train. I'm not sure if the study is complete, as I have been unable to find anything in the City's meeting system about the completion of that study.

That highlighted parcel in my post above isn't owned by the railroad - it's actually owned by a private owner. As for the Union Pacific rail corridor, that is very unlikely to go away - and in fact has a decent chance of being reactivated within the next few years. The City contracted with UPRR to do a feasibility study of rehabilitating this corridor and building a new rail bridge to get trains up to the Santa Fe Station platform, in support of projects like the Eastern Flyer passenger train. I'm not sure if the study is complete, as I have been unable to find anything in the City's meeting system about the completion of that study.
I didn't know that, that's pretty interesting. I wonder what kind of rehabilitation would have to be done, and what consideration would be given to people going back and forth between DD and Bricktown. Considering the old wooden rail bridge and current tracks are pretty dilapidated, I'm guessing they would have to put a good amount of money into it. Is there any information on what the feasibility study is to entail?

guerrilla sidewalk time?

a la guerrilla staircase over the rails

That highlighted parcel in my post above isn't owned by the railroad - it's actually owned by a private owner. As for the Union Pacific rail corridor, that is very unlikely to go away - and in fact has a decent chance of being reactivated within the next few years. The City contracted with UPRR to do a feasibility study of rehabilitating this corridor and building a new rail bridge to get trains up to the Santa Fe Station platform, in support of projects like the Eastern Flyer passenger train. I'm not sure if the study is complete, as I have been unable to find anything in the City's meeting system about the completion of that study.

I'm aware that it's not, but I was just referencing with its proximity.

Building permits have been filed to open Bones, a specialty store offering retail items for dogs and their owners, as well as washing and grooming services.


http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/bones2.jpg


Bones will be taking the empty space on the west end of Aloft Hotel, which opens to a patio faces a recently-opened dog park.

Plans show a retail area and dog washing stations in the 2,750 square foot space, which has sat empty since the hotel opened in the spring of 2014.

Bones will join several other business along NE 2nd Street in Deep Deuce, including Native Roots market, Flux Salon, Slim men's wear, Koko Fit Club, Bella Vici interior design and shop, Dental 32, Urban Johnnies, Anchor Down and the soon to open Belle Kitchen.


http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/bones.jpg


http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/bones3.jpg


http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/bones4.jpg

Bones will join several other business along NE 2nd Street in Deep Deuce, including Native Roots market, Flux Salon, Slim men's wear, Koko Fit Club, Bella Vici interior design and shop, Dental 32, Urban Johnnies, Anchor Down and the soon to open Belle Kitchen.



With WSKY, Slaughter's and Deep Deuce Grill on the other end, NE 2nd is shaping up to be a nice corridor and mix of businesses.

I was at DD Grill last night for the first time in quite a while and they were doing a brisk business for a Wednesday night.

Seems like a large space for such an operation. I fail to see how this is the best use of the location.

Interestingly, several restaurants took a run at that space but could never strike a deal.

Seems like an odd choice by the landlord who for a long time insisted any food operation be open from breakfast through dinner.

Interestingly, several restaurants took a run at that space but could never strike a deal.

Seems like an odd choice by the landlord who for a long time insisted any food operation be open from breakfast through dinner.

Yeah, I doubt this type of endeavor will generate the revenue to keep the space. I live in DD, have a dog, but I doubt I'd be spending a lot of money there, certainly less money than I would at a good restaurant.

This is pretty weird for that space.

This space has always screamed Subway/Quiznos or something like that, to me. Quick, easy, and cheap. I think the Quiznos across I-235 is closing, and I guess maybe Jimmy Johns has DD market on lock.

even better, I think a chipotle/qdoba/Einstein Bros would kill in there too

Exactly. Any of the fastfood/chains with quick and cheap counter-ordering would be a nice fit, IMO.

Is LEVEL East still happening?

Is LEVEL East still happening?

Yes, but I don't think there is any rush to get it going.

The area has been used as staging for the Maywood project and that won't wrap for several more months at least.

I was just thinking that some retail in LEVEL East on Walnut might help develop a nice pedestrian connection to the somewhat isolated retail in Maywood II.

I think KoKo has left?

Did the district ever raise the money for new signage?

Looks like they are a little under halfway there. And the last donation was over 5 months ago:
https://www.gofundme.com/dnak9rcc

I think KoKo has left?

Yes, it closed in July.