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catch22
05-25-2014, 11:15 AM
Here's I-240 and penn, the right and left turn lanes fill up much faster than the two thru lanes. So if people would just use a continuation of the center turn lane to queue, could at least keep the left thru lane open. Sure it's not legal to queue in the striped area, but some common courtesy to other drivers would say to go ahead and use it, so other people who want to go straight can make it through the light. The 240 and Penn is ion a 2 minute cycle. Each direction gets 30 seconds of green light. If you are waiting to go straight, and everyone who wants to go left has the lane blocked, you won't make it through and it will be 2 more minutes before you can get a green.

http://i.gyazo.com/c2c635d43874bb3de19db60b98c25182.png

rezman
05-25-2014, 12:00 PM
Here's I-240 and penn, the right and left turn lanes fill up much faster than the two thru lanes. So if people would just use a continuation of the center turn lane to queue, could at least keep the left thru lane open. Sure it's not legal to queue in the striped area, but some common courtesy to other drivers would say to go ahead and use it, so other people who want to go straight can make it through the light. The 240 and Penn is ion a 2 minute cycle. Each direction gets 30 seconds of green light. If you are waiting to go straight, and everyone who wants to go left has the lane blocked, you won't make it through and it will be 2 more minutes before you can get a green.

http://i.gyazo.com/c2c635d43874bb3de19db60b98c25182.png

I'm all for courtesey, but this particular move is dangerous. When someone is in the #1 lane to go straight, and decides to change lanes into the left turn lane, and someone comes blowing through the striped area, then that's a problem. That's what the safety zone is for. To prevent such an occurance. I see this illegal use of lanes take place daily. When I almost got hit,.. Twice at the same intersection on different days.... S bound Santa Fe onto NE 122nd, I was in the #1 lane, slowing down with my left turn signal on to move into the left turn lanes, of which there are two, the person coming up behind me at a higher rate of speed, tried passing me in the striped zone just as I was entering the marked left turn lanes. They then had to take evasive actions to avoid hitting me. This is an all too common practice. And it's absolute BullS**t when you're on a bike and some idiot does it. Watch the left turn lanes the next few times you're out driving. You'll see what I mean.

catch22
05-25-2014, 12:10 PM
I'm not talking about while the light is green and traffic is flowing, I agree it's dangerous. I am talking about when the light has been red for a while, and traffic is beginning to significantly queue past the turn lane. If there is room, I will continue the queue in the center turn lane, leaving more queue space for people going straight.

rezman
05-25-2014, 01:39 PM
I totally understand what your saying, but it doesn't matter what color the light is, it's still not a good idea.

But let me add this. Where these incidents happend to me, there is no center turn lane. So you may be correct in areas where there is a center turn lane and having it run right up to the left turn lane with no striped area dividing them.

Plutonic Panda
05-25-2014, 03:35 PM
Here's I-240 and penn, the right and left turn lanes fill up much faster than the two thru lanes. So if people would just use a continuation of the center turn lane to queue, could at least keep the left thru lane open. Sure it's not legal to queue in the striped area, but some common courtesy to other drivers would say to go ahead and use it, so other people who want to go straight can make it through the light. The 240 and Penn is ion a 2 minute cycle. Each direction gets 30 seconds of green light. If you are waiting to go straight, and everyone who wants to go left has the lane blocked, you won't make it through and it will be 2 more minutes before you can get a green.

http://i.gyazo.com/c2c635d43874bb3de19db60b98c25182.pngThat whole corridor needs to be reworked. People have obviously heard me say what I think they need to widen it to, but they really need to add double turn left lanes. The one on Shields is the worst.

Plutonic Panda
09-25-2014, 04:07 PM
Oklahoma drivers get bad rap for being rude drivers - Norman Transcript: News (http://www.normantranscript.com/news/article_d8bc4f70-44d5-11e4-b8f9-4f7b9c738f73.html)

Plutonic Panda
09-25-2014, 04:08 PM
Also, is it just me or are people running red lights a lot more here lately?

Roger S
09-25-2014, 04:26 PM
Also, is it just me or are people running red lights a lot more here lately?

No. I would say it happens at about 95% of the lights I'm at. It used to just be people pushing the limits of the yellow but now I see more and more people going through 3-5 seconds after the light turns red.

Saw a car not only run a red making a right turn but cut off the car in front of them running the red making a right turn this morning.

bchris02
09-26-2014, 10:22 AM
Oklahoma drivers get bad rap for being rude drivers - Norman Transcript: News (http://www.normantranscript.com/news/article_d8bc4f70-44d5-11e4-b8f9-4f7b9c738f73.html)

I don't know for sure if I agree with this. OKC drivers aren't rude at least in my experience. In fact sometimes they are too courteous and end up causing traffic problems. What I don't understand is why people here drive so slow on the freeways. There is no reason to drive 55 when the speed limit is 65 or 70. I am not an excessive speeder as I generally like to cruise at 5-10 over the limit, but most of the time here I can go the speed limit and will be weaving in and out of traffic because people drive so slow. I have experienced this in numerous small towns but OKC is the only large city I've experienced this type of driving culture in. I am not sure if its because of the slow-paced culture here, people's fear of the police, or some other reason.

Plutonic Panda
09-26-2014, 01:11 PM
Bchris, I agree with you. Drivers in Oklahoma are some of the most courteous I've seen anywhere. I am seeing a bit more people cutting others off and road rage in the last year, but I've only been driving for about 4 years, so I don't know.

windowphobe
09-26-2014, 05:14 PM
What I don't understand is why people here drive so slow on the freeways. There is no reason to drive 55 when the speed limit is 65 or 70.

There are several reasons why it happens, though:

(1) Nimrod is carrying one ton in a half-ton truck;

(2) That's the speed they were at when they crawled up the onramp, and they're sticking to it;

(3) Fear of missing something exciting happening in the median.

And maybe a third of the population fears being stopped by the cops, because they don't have insurance, they're technically not supposed to be here in the first place, or both A and B.

jompster
09-26-2014, 06:31 PM
Do have to say I was impressed by a driver on the interstate last night.

They turned on their signal to move into the middle lane. Instead of speeding up like most Okies do when they see a signal come on. I maintaned my speed and allowed him space to make the lane change and after he made the change he flashed his tail lights a couple of times to let me know he appreciated it. Usually only see that from truckers.

LOL that may have been me. I do that all the time, and when someone is in the car with me, they usually ask why I do it. My mom practically made me do it when I had my learner's permit.

Regarding where you've seen people pass in the acceleration lane, I almost knew before I read it where you were going to say. It happens a lot on 35 SB between I-40 and I-240.

Mel
09-26-2014, 07:20 PM
I'm not talking about while the light is green and traffic is flowing, I agree it's dangerous. I am talking about when the light has been red for a while, and traffic is beginning to significantly queue past the turn lane. If there is room, I will continue the queue in the center turn lane, leaving more queue space for people going straight.

I wish more folks did that.

ChrisHayes
09-26-2014, 08:47 PM
Being new to the state (moved here in September '13) I have to say my only gripe with Oklahoma drivers is driving slow in the passing lane. That stuff is annoying!

bluedogok
09-26-2014, 09:03 PM
Denver seems to have some very slow drivers balanced out with the ultraspeed drivers, much slower than what I was used to in Austin, DFW or Houston.

Urbanized
09-27-2014, 04:12 PM
It's the weed.

bluedogok
09-28-2014, 10:35 PM
It's the weed.
They were that way well before weed was legal, it's mostly the Subaru drivers then the Camry drivers. Coming back from Steamboat/Estes Park today it was like Subaru slalom on I-25 with the 75 mph speed limit and they consistently are driving 10-15 mph slower in any lane.

Urbanized
09-29-2014, 10:13 AM
Subaru drivers were smoking weed before it was legal.

TheTravellers
09-29-2014, 04:48 PM
Also, is it just me or are people running red lights a lot more here lately?

In the past few months, I've noticed it at pretty much *every* intersection I'm stopped at, used to only be about half of them, but it's getting ridiculous, cops should really start cracking down on that. Saw one the other day where some a**hole was in the middle straight lane and the guy in the left turn lane stopped on the red, but the middle lane dude turned left *GOING AROUND HIM WHILE IT HAD BEEN RED FOR 3 SECONDS*. I was going straight, facing him, floored it, tried to get him to hit me so he'd be at fault, but he made it across, dammit. I don't follow all the traffic laws, but I don't run red lights, that's just stoooooooooooooopid.

Plutonic Panda
09-29-2014, 07:06 PM
In the past few months, I've noticed it at pretty much *every* intersection I'm stopped at, used to only be about half of them, but it's getting ridiculous, cops should really start cracking down on that. Saw one the other day where some a**hole was in the middle straight lane and the guy in the left turn lane stopped on the red, but the middle lane dude turned left *GOING AROUND HIM WHILE IT HAD BEEN RED FOR 3 SECONDS*. I was going straight, facing him, floored it, tried to get him to hit me so he'd be at fault, but he made it across, dammit. I don't follow all the traffic laws, but I don't run red lights, that's just stoooooooooooooopid.I can't say I haven't done that a time or two.

Roger S
09-30-2014, 06:57 AM
.....I was going straight, facing him, floored it, tried to get him to hit me so he'd be at fault, but he made it across, dammit..

I don't floor it but I do begin moving into the intersection when the light changes and if some idiot is trying to make a turn while running a red I come at them with my horn blaring.

TheTravellers
09-30-2014, 01:24 PM
I don't floor it but I do begin moving into the intersection when the light changes and if some idiot is trying to make a turn while running a red I come at them with my horn blaring.

That's what I usually do, but this time was soooooo egregious, I had to give it a shot (my car's a crappy 2007 Honda Civic that I wouldn't care about being totaled). I've actually stuck someone in the middle of the intersection once by getting there before they could turn on a red, doesn't happen as often as I'd like. :-P Glad there are some more out there like me that don't just sit there and take it like most Okies, thanks!

OkiePoke
09-30-2014, 04:19 PM
People don't know how a zipper merge works... Leave space in front of you when in traffic, everyone will get to where they are going quicker.

Roger S
09-30-2014, 04:52 PM
People don't know how a zipper merge works... Leave space in front of you when in traffic, everyone will get to where they are going quicker.

Zipper merge? Heck people don't know how to perform any kind of merge and they only care about how quickly they can get to where they are going. Don't give a crap about how quick anyone else gets where they are going.

Snowman
10-01-2014, 05:11 AM
People don't know how a zipper merge works... Leave space in front of you when in traffic, everyone will get to where they are going quicker.

Zipper merging is only a thing when everyone is traveling at similar speeds and the system is not already clogged, most of the time either the road is free enough it does not matter or the people in the lane ending are just passing as many people as possible before they have to merge and the lane they are merging into has already been clogged for a mile or two. Do not expect people to be happy when you cut them off.

OkiePoke
10-01-2014, 10:26 AM
Zipper merge? Heck people don't know how to perform any kind of merge and they only care about how quickly they can get to where they are going. Don't give a crap about how quick anyone else gets where they are going.

They really only care how fast they can get to the bumper of the car in front of them during 'heavy' traffic.

OUman
10-05-2014, 10:35 AM
OK this has been happening to me in Norman as of late. Some people are getting highly impatient here, so if you're in the left turn lane and you are yielding to oncoming traffic (which only you are the best judge of as to how fast they are going), they actually start honking at you and if you don't go, some of them have been flailing their arms at me and making rude gestures. I'm no idiot when it comes to judging when I can/cannot go, I'm not going to risk my life (and my passenger's lives) for you just because you're on your high-horse. Of course it would be stupid to wait when there's a big gap and it's safe to go, but on streets like 12th, especially on the east side, it often happens that people routinely go above the posted 40mph limit and if there's a reasonably big gap in traffic, it's gone because some guy speeding down the road comes up out of nowhere (seemingly). This irritates me bigtime. I'm not purposely trying to delay you, but don't start honking at me and being rude because I'm trying to play it safe.

And yeah, another thing I've noticed - at the intersections of Main/Porter and Boyd/Classen, some motorists will calmly go straight ahead from the right-only lane at the former intersection and from the left-only lane the latter intersection respectively. It's like they don't give a hoot about traffic laws, it's "their" road and they can do anything they so well please. What's up with some people these days?

Plutonic Panda
10-05-2014, 03:22 PM
Listen man, when turning left, you just have to close your eyes, introduce your pedal to your floor mat, and make a break for it. Jk

I don't know though, people are loosing their wagons lately.

Roger S
10-05-2014, 04:29 PM
Saw one I had not seen before coming home from work last week.

I was southbound on Shields and caught the light red at I-240. While I was sitting there waiting for the light to rotate back around to me I noticed a truck make a left onto the service road from the middle lane of northbound Shields...... I guess we can just make our own turn lanes now.

Snowman
10-05-2014, 04:40 PM
Saw one I had not seen before coming home from work last week.

I was southbound on Shields and caught the light red at I-240. While I was sitting there waiting for the light to rotate back around to me I noticed a truck make a left onto the service road from the middle lane of northbound Shields...... I guess we can just make our own turn lanes now.

I have seen that happen a many times (except it is usually a left turn from the right lane of a 4 lane intersection), realistically if you are either unable or unwilling to make the turn from a proper lane then either take a different route, take the load on a different vehicle or make proper accommodations for oversized loads.

Roger S
10-06-2014, 07:59 AM
I have seen that happen a many times (except it is usually a left turn from the right lane of a 4 lane intersection), realistically if you are either unable or unwilling to make the turn from a proper lane then either take a different route, take the load on a different vehicle or make proper accommodations for oversized loads.

This was just a normal pickup truck that was in the wrong lane and decided to just make his own left turn lane.

Roger S
10-17-2014, 04:16 AM
I found out this morning that at 2:51 AM a right turn lane can be used to make a left turn..... Learn something new every day driving in Oklahoma City.

Plutonic Panda
10-17-2014, 03:56 PM
Oh yeah man... I was driving down Street right, and I saw Taco Bell. I had to have a taco in my system without regards to the safety of others, so I just made the turn

windowphobe
10-17-2014, 07:24 PM
...a right turn lane can be used to make a left turn..... Learn something new every day driving in Oklahoma City.

I've seen right turns from the left-turn lane -- right in front of me.

Urbanized
10-18-2014, 12:43 PM
They happen in front of you even more often when you're riding a motorcycle.

Roger S
10-21-2014, 07:44 AM
Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to mankind by which we must be saved.”

Oh man this one is classic!

Driving I-35 North this morning and get cut-off by a Mustang with the license plate ACTS412. The driver then proceeds to tailgate the car in front of him all the way to the I-40 junction where he proceeds to cut off another car making a last second, and I mean extremely last second, lane change to continue north instead of taking the I-40 West exit.

Just have to love the kind acts of a good Christian driver.

warreng88
10-21-2014, 10:43 AM
I drive 44/Hefner parkway from 23rd to Britton every day and the same way home, every day. I am usually the one to go five over the speed limit in the left lane, maybe seven if traffic is moving pretty briskly. About once a week, I will encounter someone wanting to go 90 (Not Plutonic Panda, by the way) and tailgating everyone in front of them. It is usually a different car but sometimes I recognize the car. It always makes me laugh when I exit on Britton and I that person is just a few cars in front of me at the light. They could have gotten in a wreck, pulled over or gotten someone else hurt doing what they were doing and here I am going five over and they are 20 feet in front of me.

TheTravellers
10-21-2014, 12:50 PM
I drive 44/Hefner parkway from 23rd to Britton every day and the same way home, every day. I am usually the one to go five over the speed limit in the left lane, maybe seven if traffic is moving pretty briskly. About once a week, I will encounter someone wanting to go 90 (Not Plutonic Panda, by the way) and tailgating everyone in front of them. It is usually a different car but sometimes I recognize the car. It always makes me laugh when I exit on Britton and I that person is just a few cars in front of me at the light. They could have gotten in a wreck, pulled over or gotten someone else hurt doing what they were doing and here I am going five over and they are 20 feet in front of me.

OK, good, it's not me, I don't get off on Britton, lol... I do go fast on the Parkway, but I usually get around so many clusterf***s of cars that I end up miles and quite a few minutes in front of the original idiots I passed going 65 in the passing lane (not passing anybody) that I got around when I got on the parkway from 150th.

OKCDrummer77
10-21-2014, 09:40 PM
I drive 44/Hefner parkway from 23rd to Britton every day and the same way home, every day. I am usually the one to go five over the speed limit in the left lane, maybe seven if traffic is moving pretty briskly. About once a week, I will encounter someone wanting to go 90 (Not Plutonic Panda, by the way) and tailgating everyone in front of them. It is usually a different car but sometimes I recognize the car. It always makes me laugh when I exit on Britton and I that person is just a few cars in front of me at the light. They could have gotten in a wreck, pulled over or gotten someone else hurt doing what they were doing and here I am going five over and they are 20 feet in front of me.

I, too, go from 23rd to Britton every day. Usually an uneventful drive (the mixer truck last week being a notable exception), but it's surprising how often I end up 5th or 6th in line behind a driver going 50-55 in the right lane within the last 1/2 mile before the Britton exit.

TheTravellers
01-02-2015, 11:21 AM
I'm going to have to take out an ad or a billboard saying "GET OUT OF THE LEFT LANE IF YOU'RE NOT PASSING!!!!!!!!"

Incredible that this morning, there were at least 3 idiots in the left lane on the Parkway going south that were going just above the speed limit, but not passing anybody (nobody in the middle lane for half a mile ahead of them) and when I flashed my lights at them coming up behind, they all gave me the finger and just sat there, just amazing that people are so f-ing stupid, ignorant, and arrogant. Hope they reconsider after I almost ran them into the nice little cable barriers.....

Seriously, though, if *anybody* on here knows *anybody* that pulls that sh*t, please tell them to just get out of the way, the left lane is *NOT* the "fast" lane, it's the "PASSING" lane, and if *anybody* sees someone coming up behind them, just freaking move over, don't be an a**hole. Thank you for your time reading this PSA...

rezman
01-02-2015, 12:35 PM
I use the left lane when ever I can, mostly for passing and then I get back over. If there is someone coming up from behind, I get over and let them pass. If there's lots of traffic in the middle and right lanes that is going slower, and the line of traffic in the left lane is moving faster then I stay in the left lane and keep moving with the flow, which then makes it the fast lane. The problem here is that too many people want to fight each other instead of working together and make traffic flow. When everyone works together to make traffic flow, you can move along with few problems, and everything clicks. Instead, we have people who purposely speed up to not let the other guy in or let him pass, and then slow down when the other guy dips in behind that person, or if they do let him in then he slows down and picks his ass. How about when people come down the on ramp like they're pulling into their driveway instead of looking over as they're coming down the ramp and matching their speed to traffic?.And then of course you have the usual headuptheassery of folks watching their phones instead of the road,..... running red lights has become quite fashionable, as is flying through the stripped safety zones, and into oncoming lanes at intersections to make a left turn.... lack of courtesy like blocking intersections, and drives so as to not let folks out into traffic ... etc.

Sometimes I think there really should be some kind of mandatory driver re-education program here.

TheTravellers
01-02-2015, 01:41 PM
Yes, this x1000! Thank you for being a good driver! I will say that a few drivers in the left lane noticed me coming up behind them and did move over, so it wasn't total asshattery this morning...

And I have no idea why people try to be cops and block me from passing, just let the speed freaks go and don't be a dick, don't let your manhood be threatened by a crappy little Honda, just let it go.... These folks actually make it more dangerous, because I'm not just going to slow down and play games, I'm going to get around your stupid ass as soon as I can so I can just drive, that's all I want to do, is just drive and get to point b without playing games.

jompster
01-02-2015, 02:04 PM
I'm going to have to take out an ad or a billboard saying "GET OUT OF THE LEFT LANE IF YOU'RE NOT PASSING!!!!!!!!"

Incredible that this morning, there were at least 3 idiots in the left lane on the Parkway going south that were going just above the speed limit, but not passing anybody (nobody in the middle lane for half a mile ahead of them) and when I flashed my lights at them coming up behind, they all gave me the finger and just sat there, just amazing that people are so f-ing stupid, ignorant, and arrogant. Hope they reconsider after I almost ran them into the nice little cable barriers.....

Seriously, though, if *anybody* on here knows *anybody* that pulls that sh*t, please tell them to just get out of the way, the left lane is *NOT* the "fast" lane, it's the "PASSING" lane, and if *anybody* sees someone coming up behind them, just freaking move over, don't be an a**hole. Thank you for your time reading this PSA...

This happened to me, too, on I-240 east of 35. Evidently, nobody knows what "flash to pass" means. I wasn't being mean to them, I just gave them a flash to get over since nobody was in the right lane. I ultimately just passed them on the right, but jeez...

ljbab728
01-02-2015, 08:49 PM
This exact issue has been discussed numerous times here. I almost always stay in the far right lane unless I'm going to be exiting to the left. However, I'm not going to speed when I'm in the left lane to exit just to make someone else's need to speed come true. You can just go around me and have a nice day. :)

mugofbeer
01-02-2015, 10:12 PM
Its funny that driver's in different cities have different personalities. I moved to Dallas early on and the driver's there drive far faster than they do in OKC in general. Far more aggressive driver's, frequent lane changers, no signals and - I speculate - a lot more high speed accidents. I spent time in Salt Lake City and found they also drive slower but have a weird tendency to drive splitting lanes. I can't pinpoint it but many driver's do this. Denver falls between Dallas and OKC on speed but are much faster to use the horn, especially in parking lots. There is a stretch of I-25 in south Denver through the Tech Center where the speed limit is 65. Of course, traffic in rush hours can be horrible but even when traffic is thinner, its hard to find anyone who will actually GO the speed limit through that area.

CaptDave
01-04-2015, 04:51 PM
This happened to me, too, on I-240 east of 35. Evidently, nobody knows what "flash to pass" means. I wasn't being mean to them, I just gave them a flash to get over since nobody was in the right lane. I ultimately just passed them on the right, but jeez...

I've never figured out why so many Americans take offence at flash to pass. They would have a difficult time earning a license in Europe or other places where it is not a birthright to operate a motor vehicle.

Just the facts
01-04-2015, 09:27 PM
Its funny that driver's in different cities have different personalities. I moved to Dallas early on and the driver's there drive far faster than they do in OKC in general. Far more aggressive driver's, frequent lane changers, no signals and - I speculate - a lot more high speed accidents.

I recently finished the book Traffic and according to studies quoted in the book, new drivers in a metro area adopt the driving habits of their new home within 3 years. There was an entire chapter of regional driving habits around the globe. Everyone should read that book to get a drivers license.

Roger S
01-05-2015, 10:48 AM
I've never figured out why so many Americans take offence at flash to pass.

I take offense to it when I can't make the lane change. I know how to drive and I know what the left lane is for. I don't need some rule breaker flashing their lights at me when I'm already aware they are behind me due to the fact I can no longer see their front bumper in the rear view mirror I know how to use also.

ChrisHayes
01-05-2015, 12:06 PM
Running red lights, driving in two lanes, driving slow in the passing lane. Sums it up.

Plutonic Panda
01-05-2015, 04:38 PM
Running red lights, driving in two lanes, driving slow in the passing lane. Sums it up.You forgot turning right while in the left lane and swerving across the entire highway to change lanes without signaling.

LocoAko
01-05-2015, 04:58 PM
I recently finished the book Traffic and according to studies quoted in the book, new drivers in a metro area adopt the driving habits of their new home within 3 years. There was an entire chapter of regional driving habits around the globe. Everyone should read that book to get a drivers license.

One of my favorite books! I agree with it being required reading.

Looks like I'm going to start completely stopping at yield signs, driving slowly in the left lane and never using my turn signal soon. :(

Just the facts
01-05-2015, 05:14 PM
One of my favorite books! I agree with it being required reading.

Looks like I'm going to start completely stopping at yield signs, driving slowly in the left lane and never using my turn signal soon. :(

It is your destiny.

While on the subject of the book - I am now a late merger.

jompster
01-05-2015, 06:22 PM
I take offense to it when I can't make the lane change. I know how to drive and I know what the left lane is for. I don't need some rule breaker flashing their lights at me when I'm already aware they are behind me due to the fact I can no longer see their front bumper in the rear view mirror I know how to use also.

I should have added that this person was going 5 under the speed limit and there was nobody in the right lane. Not everyone who flashes to pass is a rule breaker. If that happened to you, then that sucks and you're right to take offense to that person.

Roger S
01-06-2015, 08:04 AM
Not everyone who flashes to pass is a rule breaker. If that happened to you, then that sucks and you're right to take offense to that person.

It has happened to me multiple times and it takes a lot of restraint for me to keep from brake checking them but that would just lower me to their level.... maybe lower.

I would wager that the majority of people flashing their lights to pass are in fact breaking the speed limit. So no, not all, but most.

rezman
01-06-2015, 10:26 AM
I should have added that this person was going 5 under the speed limit and there was nobody in the right lane. Not everyone who flashes to pass is a rule breaker. If that happened to you, then that sucks and you're right to take offense to that person.

This is just one example of people just being hard headed instead of helping to work as it should. They're in the left lane, they see you coming up behind them, but they will ..... ... not.... ... budge. That's their lane and by gosh they're not moving. They may slow down some more, or even brake check you when all they have to do is get over.

TheTravellers
01-06-2015, 11:54 AM
It has happened to me multiple times and it takes a lot of restraint for me to keep from brake checking them but that would just lower me to their level.... maybe lower.

I would wager that the majority of people flashing their lights to pass are in fact breaking the speed limit. So no, not all, but most.

I only flash my lights at a left-lane-no-passer has the lane next to them free to move over. I give them a few flashes, a few times, then I blow past them in the lane they *should've* moved to, laying on my horn all the way.

As far as brake-checking goes - I hate my car, don't care if it gets totaled and I've pretty much decided the next time someone pulls that crap on me, they will get what they asked for, either rear-ended or I'll fly around in front of them and give them a taste of their own medicine ("gee, I didn't really want to hit that dog that ran across the highway, you didn't see it, wow, sorry about that"). Do not pull that crap on someone, just move over, don't play cop.

no1cub17
01-06-2015, 02:14 PM
I think hell froze over yesterday. Was on I-35 NB around the 89th St exit, cruising along at 70 in the left lane (speed limit 60), when I look up and no less than 4 cars passed me on the right. Incredible! Had never had this happen to me here ever. Maybe the memo got out that you can drive on the interstate at faster than 50? Fine by me!

windowphobe
01-06-2015, 06:07 PM
There's at least one Saturn in this town that can't make it up to 50, and it was my misfortune to land behind it half a mile from my exit.

turnpup
01-06-2015, 07:54 PM
I try SO HARD to be a considerate driver. When somebody needs in, I generally let them. If I almost change lanes in front of another driver who's in my blind spot (even though my car has sensors in the rear-view mirrors that turn red and beep at you if you attempt to change lanes and there's another car there...it's not 100% foolproof), I make sure to wave and mouth "Sorry!". If a vehicle with plates from another state does something stupid, I don't get upset, telling myself that perhaps they weren't aware that the right-hand lane of westbound I-44 ends as it curves to the south near 39th, that they were just uninformed and not being an asshole trying to run up in front of everyone else on the right-hand side...

But then we get those left-lane people! Seriously, it's massive insanity when there's a big open highway with two other lanes to the right of the left lane that are available for the slower cars to hang in, and yet they stay in the fast lane going less than the speed limit! I'm not a light-flasher, primarily because in this particular car it's harder to do quickly...when the "adaptive high-beam" system is engaged, it takes two clicks forward to flash your headlamps...I would rather not bother, and also it pisses people off. I also try very hard not to tailgate, but it's challenging. What I wind up doing it passing on the right, and doing this little acceleration maneuver that makes my little girl scream in fear (although it's not at all dangerous...it just makes her stomach flutter). It shouldn't have to be that way. Like somebody said upthread, these people think it's THEIR left lane.

And then there's Hefner Parkway northbound, just north of the 63rd Street exit, when the road curves slightly, and people BRAKE, apparently just because of that little curve! Why do they do that?! Really?

The good news is that with all these left lane huggers, I'm way less likely to get that speeding ticket that I'm fairly certain I'm going to get at some point driving my current car. I haven't been ticketed since 1994, so I'm afraid I'm due. It better be a good one!

OKCDrummer77
01-06-2015, 09:17 PM
And then there's Hefner Parkway northbound, just north of the 63rd Street exit, when the road curves slightly, and people BRAKE, apparently just because of that little curve! Why do they do that?! Really?

This! My morning commute takes me up the Parkway to Britton Road, where there is a bigger curve, and I often get stuck 4th or 5th in line behind the paranoid driver doing 45-50 on the approach to that exit because they can't see beyond the Britton Road overpass. What obstacle do they think they're going to encounter on a 6-lane, 65-MPH freeway?