Anyone have any idea when they are going to fully open HEB near Newcastle? They have been at the "punch list" stage for weeks on end, but still down to one lane in each direction. I tweeted the question at them yesterday but they didn't respond despite the fact they tweeted.

I can appreciate construction takes time, but at this point they ought to be able to finish painting the lanes and open them. Good grief.

Looks like they're starting some preliminary construction of the Kilpatrick Turnpike extension as it looks like they're building an off ramp or something off 40 towards the Kilpatrick Turnpike southbound.

OTA budget increasing next year for guardrails, maintenance, and salary increases.

https://journalrecord.com/2019/10/23/bigger-turnpike-budgets-expected-for-2020/

OTA budget increasing next year for guardrails, maintenance, and salary increases.

https://journalrecord.com/2019/10/23/bigger-turnpike-budgets-expected-for-2020/

They don't get appropriated funds so I'm assuming they will reduce the capital budget accordingly.

^^^^ I’m not a subscriber to JR so I can’t see the content. This is all that I saw:


The Oklahoma Turnpike Authority has approved preliminary budgets for operations and maintenance and capital investments in 2020 that will be 8% higher than budgets for

I missed this tidbit of info back in May, but the OTA has finally enabled full interoperability with the rest of Texas' various tolling agencies. According to https://spark.adobe.com/page/UiJ4aU6naiUyn/ (linked from the PikePass.com front page), PikePass now works with all toll roads operated by the following agencies:


PikePass - Oklahoma Turnpike Authority (of course)
K-Tag - Kansas Turnpike Authority (KTA)
TollTag - North Texas Tollway Authority (NTTA)
TxTag - Texas Department of Transportation (TxDOT)
EZTAG - Harris County Toll Road Authority (HCTRA)
Central Texas Regional Mobility Authority (CTRMA)
Fort Bend County Toll Road Authority (FBCTRA)
North East Texas Regional Mobility Authority (NET RMA)

I would not be surprised to soon see an announcement from the OTA of full support for BancPass, a prepaid toll sticker that can be reloaded with cash. BancPass was originally developed for use with the HCTRA, but it now works with all Texas toll roads, according to their FAQ. Interestingly, they put out a press release about 2 months ago announcing a new partnership with the KTA, and their front page happens to mention that it works in Oklahoma too. On top of that, their Terms of Service includes this interesting nugget of info: All States where the BancPass Toll Sticker works, including but not limited to Texas, Kansas Oklahoma, Georgia, Washington, Colorado, Florida. See BancPass.com for a complete list of States. This suggests the OTA may soon expand interoperability to these other states too. Currently, BancPass is only being sold at HEB and Costco stores in the Austin and Houston metro areas (and thus can only be topped up with cash at those stores right now), but with their expanding partnerships I wouldn't be surprised to see them for sale at stores in Kansas and Oklahoma soon.

When I first saw the banners that noted interoperability with EZTag, I got it confused with EZPass, which works in over a dozen states. Hopefully all states eventually standardize on one technology... makes family road trips a tiny bit easier.

When I first saw the banners that noted interoperability with EZTag, I got it confused with EZPass, which works in over a dozen states. Hopefully all states eventually standardize on one technology... makes family road trips a tiny bit easier.

I think nobody will disagree with you on that. The problem is that the EZPass states standardized early on an older, more expensive active RFID technology. If you remember the old OTA transponders in the plastic cases that beeped when you passed through a toll booth—that's the sort of tag EZPass uses. Meanwhile, the plains states took a while to standardize, but did so with passive RFID tags: the stickers.

There's no incentive for the plains states to change to active tags because it would be more expensive than the passive RFID tags they already use. And since the EZPass states are in the Northeast, they have way more tollbooths and cars with tags, so changing over to the cheaper system would also be a considerable expense. So you have this standoff. About the only way I see it getting broken is if Congress mandates a unified transponder and provides funding for the changeover.

Just do toll-by-plate everywhere, and eliminate this ridiculous system of pre-paying tolls for a discount. Everyone pays the same rate, and everyone is billed by license plate. No accounts to maintain or remembering to "load up" your account. End of story.

The technology is there.

Each account (with Pikepass) has an option of reloading automatically when a certain minimum has been reached.

Just do toll-by-plate everywhere, and eliminate this ridiculous system of pre-paying tolls for a discount. Everyone pays the same rate, and everyone is billed by license plate. No accounts to maintain or remembering to "load up" your account. End of story.

The technology is there.

there is no reason not to do both like texas does ... if you have an account and they dont need to send you a bill you should get a discount ..

but i am very suprised that "plate pay" has not been expanded after the creek exit test

Some good news and bad news.

Good news is they have been updating their website regarding capital projects on their current and planned projects as well as their five year plan.

Bad new and I’m really bummed about this one is they had planned to build out the entire interchange at SH-74 and Kilpatrick but now those plans have been removed. My guess is it was much more expensive then previously planned.

The OTA has also planned a partial flyover interchange at I-40 with the Kilpatrick extension but that project was scaled back as well. I only hope once they finish the current projects we will see more interchange modernizations for the Oklahoma Turnpikes.

Are there any plans for the OTA to go entirely plate pay and do away with cash toll booths (like Texas)?

They have AET project for several tollways planned and the Kilpatrick is one of them. They have something related to this for 2020 but it’s for 2 million or something like that which seems a bit cheap but I have no idea what systems like that cost.

I do think they are planning systemwide plate pay.

They have AET project for several tollways planned and the Kilpatrick is one of them. They have something related to this for 2020 but it’s for 2 million or something like that which seems a bit cheap but I have no idea what systems like that cost.

I do think they are planning systemwide plate pay.
I really appreciate all your ODOT and OTA updates. I find their capital project 'information' nearly impossible to decipher. ODOT's website might be as bad as the one for OESC.

I really appreciate all your ODOT and OTA updates. I find their capital project 'information' nearly impossible to decipher. ODOT's website might be as bad as the one for OESC.It is something I enjoy doing. Though I will say I don’t fully understand what OTAs plans exactly are. Perhaps they are just laying the framework with this money.

Some good news and bad news.

Good news is they have been updating their website regarding capital projects on their current and planned projects as well as their five year plan.

Bad new and I’m really bummed about this one is they had planned to build out the entire interchange at SH-74 and Kilpatrick but now those plans have been removed. My guess is it was much more expensive then previously planned.

The OTA has also planned a partial flyover interchange at I-40 with the Kilpatrick extension but that project was scaled back as well. I only hope once they finish the current projects we will see more interchange modernizations for the Oklahoma Turnpikes.

Anything about 235/KTP enhancement? Once 235/44 is done in one year there will be long jams going northbound 235 to westbound KTP. With no logjam at 44/235 means all that traffic rushes north faster. But then have to compete with a merge lane plus the ramp itself is only 1 lane and is for both KTP east and west. Then east branches off and west is one lane flyover. They need to do a far left lane flyover (N235 to WKTP). As is traffic will likely back up to Hefner or more south of KTP once current 44/235 work is done

^^^^ I don’t think we’ll see major traffic problems at the JKT/235 interchange for awhile but I do agree this interchange needs a major upgrade. It would be nice to see the frontage roads built through it as well but that would require a complete rework of the existing flyovers.

Unfortunately very little work is planned for the JKT but the OTA has surprise projects that pop up so maybe we’ll a get a present soon. BoulderSooner seems to be more in the know about the OTAs plans.

I agree about current traffic its really amazing to go thru work zone at posted speed of 45 both ways. But once people get back to work about the time current project is done we’ll see those backups up there. One way around it is going 44e to 35n to KTPw but it adds 6-7 miles. The issue is not just backups, but backups breed wrecks.

Anything about 235/KTP enhancement? Once 235/44 is done in one year there will be long jams going northbound 235 to westbound KTP. With no logjam at 44/235 means all that traffic rushes north faster. But then have to compete with a merge lane plus the ramp itself is only 1 lane and is for both KTP east and west. Then east branches off and west is one lane flyover. They need to do a far left lane flyover (N235 to WKTP). As is traffic will likely back up to Hefner or more south of KTP once current 44/235 work is done
One thing that would make a huge difference is closing the on-ramp to 235 from 122 St. That on-ramp that close the major interchange is just stupid and leads to tremendous slowdowns. And this isn't the only area where there are on-ramps too close to interchanges (I-40/44 and Agnew Ave is another prominent one).

One thing that would make a huge difference is closing the on-ramp to 235 from 122 St. That on-ramp that close the major interchange is just stupid and leads to tremendous slowdowns. And this isn't the only area where there are on-ramps too close to interchanges (I-40/44 and Agnew Ave is another prominent one).
Or they could braid it which most major cities do now but that isn’t cheap.

One thing that would make a huge difference is closing the on-ramp to 235 from 122 St. That on-ramp that close the major interchange is just stupid and leads to tremendous slowdowns. And this isn't the only area where there are on-ramps too close to interchanges (I-40/44 and Agnew Ave is another prominent one).

Agree. Ramp traffic is not up to speed due to bend in the ramp, and you have 60+ wanting to exit with 40 trying to merge on and get over to avoid TP exit.

Or they could braid it which most major cities do now but that isn’t cheap.
Isn't this what San Antonio did with Loop 410 by the airport?

Or they could braid it which most major cities do now but that isn’t cheap.


What is braid? Like a flyover lane?

What is braid? Like a flyover lane?

A braided ramp is where the exit lane crosses over or under the entrance lane. If you look at SB Broadway Extension at 63rd, you will see an excellent example of a braid. SB 235 to WB 44 crosses over the SB on ramp from 63rd.

Closing the NB on ramp from 122nd will never happen. Too much industry west of Broadway Ext that heavily uses that ramp. Piss poor design needs to be completely rebuilt. I would guess it would take $75-80 million for both, which means it ain't happening soon.

A braided ramp is where the exit lane crosses over or under the entrance lane. If you look at SB Broadway Extension at 63rd, you will see an excellent example of a braid. SB 235 to WB 44 crosses over the SB on ramp from 63rd.

Closing the NB on ramp from 122nd will never happen. Too much industry west of Broadway Ext that heavily uses that ramp. Piss poor design needs to be completely rebuilt. I would guess it would take $75-80 million for both, which means it ain't happening soon.

Ok thanks. Even better is make a flyover ramp from the far left lane. But that would mean no TP entrance from the 122 on ramp there would not be room to scoot over all lanes and make the ramp.

What is braid? Like a flyover lane?
Rt. 66man describes it better than I could have. But here is a video for any further clarification:


https://youtu.be/nx18W4yVNwo

We have a couple in the metro now one at the new I-235/44 interchange and one or two in Norman. I’m sure if there are any others.

One thing that would make a huge difference is closing the on-ramp to 235 from 122 St. That on-ramp that close the major interchange is just stupid and leads to tremendous slowdowns. And this isn't the only area where there are on-ramps too close to interchanges (I-40/44 and Agnew Ave is another prominent one).

I’m still trying to figure out why folks refer to the intersection of the Kilpatrick Turnpike and 77/Broadway Extension, as JKT& 235. This is not the first place I’ve heard that. The northern terminus of 235 is at I-44..... 5 miles south of the JKT.

Our shop is located west of the Broadway Extension in the area of the JKT and 122nd. We’ve had people come through looking for the Kilpatrick & I-235. I have to ask them where they got their Information because those roads do not intersect.

Are there any plans to officially designate the full run from JKT as I-235?.

I’m still trying to figure out why folks refer to the intersection of the Kilpatrick Turnpike and 77/Broadway Extension, as JKT& 235. This is not the first place I’ve heard that. The northern terminus of 235 is at I-44..... 5 miles south of the JKT.

Our shop is located west of the Broadway Extension in the area of the JKT and 122nd. We’ve had people come through looking for the Kilpatrick & I-235. I have to ask them where they got their Information because those roads do not intersect.

Are there any plans to officially designate the full run from JKT as I-235?.
It’s the same road and might as well be called that. It just is not signed.

IMO, we should remove tolls on the portion of the Kilpatrick from SH-74 to I-35 and sign that as I-44 and route I-44 down SH-74/Hefner Parkway will it will eventually reconnect with itself. I-235 should be signed up to Kilpatrick.

To get an Interstate designation, a road has to meet a certain set of design standards and pass through an approval process by the American Association of State Highway and Transportation Officials (AASHTO) and the Federal Highway Administration (FHWA). It's a somewhat big deal because being an interstate also automatically qualifies a road for national highway funding. Before the 90s it was an even bigger deal since there was special maintenance funding which could only be spent on Interstates.

North of I-44, the Broadway Extension is US-77. I am not sure whether it qualifies for national funding, but I would suspect so, since most freeways do. If ODOT wanted to submit it as an extension to I-235, I imagine it would pass. They just have never done so.

To get an Interstate designation, a road has to meet a certain set of design standards and pass through an approval process by the American Association of State Highway and Transportation Officials (AASHTO) and the Federal Highway Administration (FHWA). It's a somewhat big deal because being an interstate also automatically qualifies a road for national highway funding. Before the 90s it was an even bigger deal since there was special maintenance funding which could only be spent on Interstates.

North of I-44, the Broadway Extension is US-77. I am not sure whether it qualifies for national funding, but I would suspect so, since most freeways do. If ODOT wanted to submit it as an extension to I-235, I imagine it would pass. They just have never done so.

US77 seems like a designation Oklahoma uses for business routes or a secondary highway that runs parallel to i35, you see it in Guthrie, Norman, Purcell, Paul's valley, Wynnewood, Davis ardmore, Marietta thackerville to name the towns I'm familiar with, just like route 66 runs with 40 and 44

I'm old enough to remember the construction of 235, as it significantly shortened my dad's commute to work from Britton road to over by the old Paris flea market

US77 seems like a designation Oklahoma uses for business routes or a secondary highway that runs parallel to i35, you see it in Guthrie, Norman, Purcell, Paul's valley, Wynnewood, Davis ardmore, Marietta thackerville to name the towns I'm familiar with, just like route 66 runs with 40 and 44

This was actually negotiated with the towns south of Norman when I-35 was built through the area. They were afraid that the new highway would be too far away from them and cut them off from traffic. They got the state to intervene on their behalf, and Governor Bellmon threatened the Bureau of Public Roads that he'd build a turnpike instead of I-35 if the route was too far from the existing one. The Legislature went a step further and passed a law saying state money couldn't be spent on I-35 through southern Oklahoma if it were more than one mile away from US-77.

I am not exactly sure where BPR intended to send I-35, if not down the US-77 corridor. In most other situations they preferred to route interstates down existing US routes and just bypass the towns. This was done with I-40 west of Oklahoma City; much of it is actually built on top of the old US-66 roadbed.

Are five major turnpikes an obstacle to Tulsa's area growth.

https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/otrd-nfs-trav/images/maps/map-tulsa.jpg

Cimarron Turnpike: Length: 59.2 miles

The Cimarron Turnpike is a toll road in north-central Oklahoma. The route travels 67 miles, from an interchange with Interstate 35 north of Perry, to Westport, just west of Tulsa.

Creek Turnpike: Length: 33.22 miles

The Creek Turnpike, also designated State Highway 364, is a 33.22-mile-long freeway-standard toll road that lies entirely in the U.S. state of Oklahoma. The turnpike forms a partial beltway around the south and east sides of Tulsa.

Muskogee Turnpike: Length: 53.1 miles

The Muskogee Turnpike, also designated State Highway 351, is a toll road in eastern Oklahoma ends in Broken Arrow.

Turner Turnpike: Length: 86.5 miles

The Turner Turnpike is a toll road in central Oklahoma, connecting its two largest cities, Oklahoma City and Tulsa. Authorized by the Oklahoma Legislature in 1947 and opened in May 1953, it is the oldest of the state's ten turnpikes.

Will Rogers Turnpike: Length 88.5 miles

The Will Rogers Turnpike is a freeway-standard toll road in the northeast portion of the U.S. state of Oklahoma. The highway begins as a continuation of the Creek Turnpike in Tulsa, continuing northward from the I-44/US-412 interchange there to the Missouri state line west of Joplin, Missouri. The turnpike carries the I-44 designation for its entire length.


Could the State provide some relief to Tulsa's turnpike saga...

OTA needs to invest majorly in Pay by Plate. I bring cash with me when driving in Oklahoma but there is no signage - you pull up to a toll booth and have no idea if it will be manned or not. I had to run 2 toll booths in Tulsa last week because the bill changers were out of service. So frustrating and I am sure I will receive a hefty fine. There’s just no way to know what you will owe until you are already on the turnpike and no idea if the toll booths will be manned or even work.

I've had that problem, too. The state needs to go the way of most states and use photo bills. I may be saying the same as you.

Contact OTA, tell them what happened. Be prepared to give them your tag number, turnpike you were on, time and information like insurance and registration.

This happened to me years ago (2000s) on the Kilpatrick Turnpike after they added the extension. After explaining my situation to them; they gave me instruction on paying the toll. There were some fees, however at the time, I was able to avoid a fine.

IIRC they sent me some forms to fill out.

OTA needs to invest majorly in Pay by Plate. I bring cash with me when driving in Oklahoma but there is no signage - you pull up to a toll booth and have no idea if it will be manned or not. I had to run 2 toll booths in Tulsa last week because the bill changers were out of service. So frustrating and I am sure I will receive a hefty fine. There’s just no way to know what you will owe until you are already on the turnpike and no idea if the toll booths will be manned or even work.

PikePass is one thing that OTA got right. It is ridiculously easy to set up. And wouldn't pay by plate require everyone to buy a new license plate? Or are you just talking they send you a bill monthly based on your plate #?

PikePass is one thing that OTA got right. It is ridiculously easy to set up. And wouldn't pay by plate require everyone to buy a new license plate? Or are you just talking they send you a bill monthly based on your plate #?

In Colorado you just drive on the toll way. If you are registered with the toll operator they charge you a lower rate, if not they send you a bill at the end of the month. No stopping, no carrying coins, no hoping the booths are attended. I was in a rental car so no pikepass.

Pay by plate is something OTA is slowly working towards. Part of the reason for the tag registration changes is to support OTA in this.

Pay by plate is something OTA is slowly working towards. Part of the reason for the tag registration changes is to support OTA in this.

Is there more to Pay by Plate in Oklahoma than just the Jenks exit on the Creek Turnpike?

Is there more to Pay by Plate in Oklahoma than just the Jenks exit on the Creek Turnpike?
None that I have seen except that one, which is too bad. Pay by plate works well as an inducement to use, especially for visitors. Having to get a pikepass account in an unnecessary hurdle. I'm guessing that states with plate tracking have a nice little revenue stream.

None that I have seen except that one, which is too bad. Pay by plate works well as an inducement to use, especially for visitors. Having to get a pikepass account in an unnecessary hurdle. I'm guessing that states with plate tracking have a nice little revenue stream.

they have continued to fund plate pay infrastructure the last couple of years it is still in the plan to roll it out system wide at some point

The new 5 year plan(2021-25) has been released. Nothing new really for OKC metro just a project dealing with a ramp at the Broadway Ext/Kilpatrick interchange. It’s only a couple million dollar project so likely it will deal with an existing ramp. I hope we’ll see a new bond package passed before 2025 for new tollway projects and I really hope we see interchange fixes.

https://oklahoma.gov/content/dam/ok/en/ota/documents/other/5%20Year%20Capital%20Plan.pdf

None that I have seen except that one, which is too bad. Pay by plate works well as an inducement to use, especially for visitors. Having to get a pikepass account in an unnecessary hurdle. I'm guessing that states with plate tracking have a nice little revenue stream.

AET/ETC project on the 5 year capital plan (AET = All Electric tolling ETC = Electronic toll collection)
2021
Chickasaw AET Conversion Chickasaw Tpk 2021 $40,000 $10,000 $50,000
H. E. Bailey AET Conversion H. E. Bailey Tpk 2021 $5,400,000 $240,000 $240,000 $5,880,000
Kickapoo AET Conversion Kickapoo Tpk 2021 $200,000 $0 $40,000 $240,000
Toll Toll equipment upgrade to prepare for AET Various Locations 2021 $6,716,773 $0 $0 $6,716,773
Toll Upgrades and eqjuipment related to ETC Various Locations 2021 $2,049,923 $0 $0 $2,049,923
Toll Upgrades and eqjuipment related to ETC & Cash Various Locations 2021 $1,932,946 $0 $0 $1,932,946
2022
Cimarron AET Conversion (C-MC-29) SH-99 / US-177 / Spur 2022 $9,500,000 $340,000 $300,000 $10,140,000
Creek AET Conversion Creek Tpk 2022 $900,000 $0 $240,000 $1,140,000
Indian Nation AET Conversion North SH-9 2022 $800,000 $0 $30,000 $830,000
Muskogee AET Conversion Muskogee Tpk 2022 $4,700,000 $288,000 $160,000 $5,148,000
Toll Toll equipment upgrade to prepare for AET Various Locations 2022 $10,691,097 $0 $0 $10,691,097
Toll Upgrades and eqjuipment related to ETC Various Locations 2022 $962,210 $0 $0 $962,210
Toll Upgrades and eqjuipment related to ETC & Cash Various Locations 2022 $1,441,181 $0 $0 $1,441,181
Marketing Marketing AET/Driving Forward Various Locations 2022 $500,000 $0 $0 $500,000
2023
Cherokee AET Conversion Cherokee Tpk 2023 $160,000 $3,000 $163,000
Indian Nation AET Conversion South McAlester, Antlers 2023 $7,000,000 $288,000 $300,000 $7,588,000
Toll Toll equipment upgrade to prepare for AET Various Locations 2023 $10,338,583 $0 $0 $10,338,583
Toll Upgrades and eqjuipment related to ETC Various Locations 2023 $11,074,035 $0 $0 $11,074,035
Toll Upgrades and eqjuipment related to ETC & Cash Various Locations 2023 $1,392,865 $0 $0 $1,392,865
Marketing Marketing AET/Driving Forward Various Locations 2023 $500,000 $0 $0 $500,000
2024
Turner AET Conversion Turner Tpk 2024 $1,300,000 $0 $50,000 $1,350,000
Will Rogers AET Conversion Will Rogers Tpk 2024 $1,300,000 $0 $50,000 $1,350,000
Toll Toll equipment upgrade to prepare for AET Various Locations 2024 $4,367,039 $0 $0 $4,367,039
Toll Upgrades and eqjuipment related to ETC Various Locations 2024 $500,000 $0 $0 $500,000
Toll Upgrades and eqjuipment related to ETC & Cash Various Locations 2024 $1,415,633 $0 $0 $1,415,633
Marketing Marketing AET/Driving Forward Various Locations 2024 $500,000 $0 $0 $500,000
2025
Toll Upgrades and eqjuipment related to ETC Various Locations 2025 $1,250,000 $0 $0 $1,250,000
Toll Upgrades and eqjuipment related to ETC & Cash Various Locations 2025 $502,040 $0 $0 $502,040
Marketing Marketing AET/Driving Forward Various Locations 2025 $500,000 $0 $0 $500,000

A bill has been filed in the house to expedite AET systems across the state finally!

https://tulsaworld.com/news/state-and-regional/govt-and-politics/house-bill-moves-fully-automated-cashless-turnpike-system-into-fast-lane/article_8f3bd50a-6710-11eb-bb95-ab0ce6aeba6d.html

A bill has been filed in the house to expedite AET systems across the state finally!

https://tulsaworld.com/news/state-and-regional/govt-and-politics/house-bill-moves-fully-automated-cashless-turnpike-system-into-fast-lane/article_8f3bd50a-6710-11eb-bb95-ab0ce6aeba6d.html
Awesome!

I love the cashless systems.

One thing to watch is the schedule for late fees if tolls are not paid on time. States have had, and Colorado was one, to impose ridiculous fines for late payments. CO did greatly reduce them after citizen complaints and media publicity.

https://kdvr.com/news/money/highway-robbery-small-tolls-spiral-into-thousand-dollar-debts-and-jail-time/

A bill has been filed in the house to expedite AET systems across the state finally!

https://tulsaworld.com/news/state-and-regional/govt-and-politics/house-bill-moves-fully-automated-cashless-turnpike-system-into-fast-lane/article_8f3bd50a-6710-11eb-bb95-ab0ce6aeba6d.html

this bill does not speed up the already planned AET conversion of the OTA system ..

it creates a legal framework .. for enforcement of the e tolls

This is good news

“ But progress is being made, Machamer said, and the Oklahoma Turnpike Authority is hoping to implement systems to read E-Z Passes in early 2022.”

https://www.oklahoman.com/story/news/2021/06/21/pikepass-cashless-tolls-set-turnpikes-but-wont-work-nationwide-oklahoma/7518132002/

Cashless tolling on the Kilpatrick begins on July 25th. They already started taking a lot of the signs related to cash tolling down.

Cashless tolling on the Kilpatrick begins on July 25th. They already started taking a lot of the signs related to cash tolling down.

this started only a few days late and is now live ..

Yep drove it last night. I know this isn't of much importance to them but it would be nice to redo the toll plazas and make them more attractive.

Something simple like this would be great.

https://www.google.com/maps/@39.961886,-105.175719,3a,75y,305.46h,90.66t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1si1H69Rnq70pJgDNkqXpopw!2e0!7i1 6384!8i8192?hl=en

Please help me understand this.

I'll be driving to OKC later in August for a few days and will be using the turnpike. My car is not registered in Oklahoma, I certainly don't have a Pikepass. I have Missouri plates. So I just drive as if it's a normal road and whenever I get on and off (or in otherwise appropriate places) some camera will take a picture of my plate. And later I will get a bill (or a bunch of bills) mailed to me at my home in Missouri?

It does seem easy if that's the case. I just want to make sure I'm understanding this correctly.

^^^ Yes. They'll mail you a bill.

Thank you!

Here is more information:

https://www.platepay.com/

Please help me understand this.

I'll be driving to OKC later in August for a few days and will be using the turnpike. My car is not registered in Oklahoma, I certainly don't have a Pikepass. I have Missouri plates. So I just drive as if it's a normal road and whenever I get on and off (or in otherwise appropriate places) some camera will take a picture of my plate. And later I will get a bill (or a bunch of bills) mailed to me at my home in Missouri?

It does seem easy if that's the case. I just want to make sure I'm understanding this correctly.

Keep in mind the the kilpatrick is the only turnpike that has been converted so far.

If you are on any of the other turnpikes in Oklahoma you still must stop and pay the tolls.

Boulder Sooner, I was aware of that but I appreciate the confirmation from you.

It would be nice if this extended to the entire system.

Boulder Sooner, I was aware of that but I appreciate the confirmation from you.

It would be nice if this extended to the entire system.

The entire system should be converted by 2024

I'd be curious to get a look at the books to put a magnifying glass on the claim that they need such high non-PikePass tolls to pay for this.

They're going to be letting go of a lot of booth operators. So It seems like it's hard to believe that the removal of all of them and everything that goes with them in the back office, would really not make up enough of the capital to pay for this.