I think I remember where the Spaghetti House was...the building directly north
of the Taco Bell in the back...
I'm not sure it was behind the Mexican Phone Company (Taco Bell).

CK, I remember the sign. I can't find any evidence of it's existence.
Was it in the same strip as Gerald's Donuts? I've been munching on
some serious Gerald's Donuts.

Those donuts are making me hungry. Jack's was not in the strip center at all, it would be very very close to 58th & Penn and just South of Gerald's Donuts & the strip center. Ginny's Pub use to be the furthest business South in the strip center and Jacks was across the driveway South from there. (think it was a back entrance driveway to the original Hillcrest Hospital...

Prunepicker,
Look at my post with the Family Spaghetti House (and your's as well), the address is 5303 1/2 South Penn. That is just South of 51st street.
C. T.
That's exactly where I'm envisioning the location. However, there's nothing
in the Oklahoman archives that suggests it. There is an obituary that mentions
Jack's Steakhouse but not a location.

There is information about the Family Spaghetti House in that very location.

Those donuts are making me hungry. Jack's was not in the strip center at all, it
would be very very close to 58th & Penn and just South of Gerald's Donuts &
the strip center. Ginny's Pub use to be the furthest business South in the strip
center and Jacks was across the driveway South from there. (think it was a
back entrance driveway to the original Hillcrest Hospital...
This is blowing my mind. I remember walking home from US Grant in the
60's and past Jack's Steakhouse. The archives of the Oklahoma have no
mention of the place except for an obituary with no address.

I can see the sign as if it was this afternoon. The sign said "steaks, spaghetti".
I'm almost ready to believe that Jack's and the Family Spaghetti House were
the same place.

OY VEY!

My brain hurts. It will have to come out.

53031/2 S Pennsylvania 73159 Put this address into the link below.

https://maps.google.com/

Prunepicker,
To answer your last two posts, the Family Spaghetti House is clearly the name according to the DOK ad and that's also what I remembered very early on in this conversation. I agree with CarltonsKeeper that Jack's was near 59th. As for google maps, leavethe "1/2" off of the address, they don't do well with fractions.
C. T.
My brain hurts. It will have to come out.

53031/2 S Pennsylvania 73159 Put this address into the link below.

https://maps.google.com/

I remember exactly where the spaghetti restaurant was in the early '70s. It was in the SE corner of the building that is now Centro Cristiano Fe Agrada A DIOS Agrada DIOS
5209 S. Pennsylvania Ave Oklahoma City, OK 73119 (405) 686-1889. The church now uses one address for what used to be a very small strip shopping/business center.

As someone else has said; it was in the building just north of the Taco Bell on the west side of Penn. We ate at both restaurants often.

Frisky,
Did you see the ad in my (and Prunepicker's) posts? The address was 5303 1/2 South Penn.
C. T.

I remember exactly where the spaghetti restaurant was in the early '70s. It was in the SE corner of the building that is now Centro Cristiano Fe Agrada A DIOS Agrada DIOS
5209 S. Pennsylvania Ave Oklahoma City, OK 73119 (405) 686-1889. The church now uses one address for what used to be a very small strip shopping/business center.

As someone else has said; it was in the building just north of the Taco Bell on the west side of Penn. We ate at both restaurants often.

The Rustic Inn, 39th & Portland, has been closed for over 20 years, I think. Bummer when it closed.

Frisky,
Did you see the ad in my (and Prunepicker's) posts? The address was 5303 1/2 South Penn.
C. T.There were several separate businesses with different addresses at that location before the church combined them together into a single structure and made it one address.

Frisky,
But 5209-5303 spans a city block. I guess I will drive over there one of these days and "scope it out", cuz I'm confused. Haven't heard from you in a while, didn't we meet at Coit's a few years ago?
C. T.
There were several separate businesses with different addresses at that location before the church combined them together into a single structure and made it one address.

I drove over there this afternoon and there is no doubt that the smaller building with the side (South) entrance and now shares a parking lot with a larger building (both appear to be part of the same complex/business) was "The Family Spaghetti House". I definitely remember entering from the side, not the front and it still has the side entrance. I envisioned the entrance a little further West but it's been a long time. The size is exactly what I remember. I must be wealthy or nuts (and I'm sure it's the latter) for driving 38 miles roundtrip just to figure this out. Actually, I had other reasons to go to the South side anyway, so I killed several birds with one trip.
C. T.

I just went to google earth and discovered my mistake. I stand by my original statement about side entrance but the building is about 1/2 a block Further South. And it really looks the part with the glass and everything.

You're exactly right. I was thinking about House of Chan just off of NW
39th Expressway and a block west of N. Penn.

Remember House of Chan. It was the restaurant that we went to when out of town relatives stayed at the Habana Inn.

Remember it well. I Graduated from Bishop McGuinness HS. That was when you dressed up to eat out.

Remember that one also. My husband and I rented an apartment across the street when we were first married. I believe there was an old abandoned movie theater in that mall also.

Ah, those were the places where the average guy took his family to a fancy restaurant once every six month, paid cash, and was treated like royalty. Glens was a gem on NW 10th street, near the fairgrounds, in a neighborhood that was never impressive. Those days are gone forever, basically for the guy and his family, who worked in the meat packing district, when there was one.

Never could figure out why Der Dutchman moved out of OKC. Nice seafood restaurant.

I just remembered what I believe was the first Japanese restaurant in OKC (I might be wrong), Tokyo Gardens on 46th and Lincoln. I remember their shrimp tempura, it was excellent.
C. T.

Wow. We remember a time gone by, when Lincoln Blvd connected to Route 66. Those were the days when parents with kids would travel to OKC, to attend Springlake park and the Zoo. They came from Kansas and Arkansas and Texas, stayed on Lincoln Blvd at a reasonably priced hotel, and had their pick of Sussy's Pizza, Tokyo Gardens, Beverly's, Delores, or a great buffet at the Tradewinds hotel. Lincoln Blvd was once Bricktown, with plenty to do, centrally located for Amusement, visiting the Capitol, and downtown OKC.

Biznesschic1959,
Now to really test your memory, do you remember the Prow Lounge, it was around in the 60's, and was a bar in the same building as Sussy's. And if you remember Elmer's on Lincoln, I will really be impressed/amazed.
C. T.
Wow. We remember a time gone by, when Lincoln Blvd connected to Route 66. Those were the days when parents with kids would travel to OKC, to attend Springlake park and the Zoo. They came from Kansas and Arkansas and Texas, stayed on Lincoln Blvd at a reasonably priced hotel, and had their pick of Sussy's Pizza, Tokyo Gardens, Beverly's, Delores, or a great buffet at the Tradewinds hotel. Lincoln Blvd was once Bricktown, with plenty to do, centrally located for Amusement, visiting the Capitol, and downtown OKC.

Biznesschic1959,
Now to really test your memory, do you remember the Prow Lounge, it was
around in the 60's, and was a bar in the same building as Sussy's. And if you
remember Elmer's on Lincoln, I will really be impressed/amazed.
C. T.
Do you mean Sussy's when it was on NW 23rd? Jake Samara was the owner
and before it became Sussy's, it was the Tempo club. Jake told me that one
morning he was in the office and heard things being moved around in the
dining room. It was Jack Sussy. He asked Jack what he was doing and Jack
said, "I'm getting things ready for lunch". Jake asked if he had any restaurant
experience and Jack said, "I worked in a deli in New Orleans once." Jake
liked his attitude and Sussy became his front man. Jake had the personality of
a snake. He had the sign changed because Sussy's covered Tempo. Jake also
owned the restaurant on NE 36th. I believe the only restaurant that Sussy
owned was on NE 50th, but I'm not sure if he really owned it or not.

Wow. We remember a time gone by, when Lincoln Blvd connected to Route 66. Those were the days when parents with kids would travel to OKC, to attend Springlake park and the Zoo. They came from Kansas and Arkansas and Texas, stayed on Lincoln Blvd at a reasonably priced hotel, and had their pick of Sussy's Pizza, Tokyo Gardens, Beverly's, Delores, or a great buffet at the Tradewinds hotel. Lincoln Blvd was once Bricktown, with plenty to do, centrally located for Amusement, visiting the Capitol, and downtown OKC.

Howard Johnson's near the US-66 / Lincoln junction.

... and had their pick of Sussy's Pizza, Tokyo Gardens, Beverly's, Delores, or
a great buffet at the Tradewinds hotel. Lincoln Blvd was once Bricktown,
with plenty to do, centrally located for Amusement, visiting the Capitol, and
downtown OKC.
I remember the Tradewinds! Dad would take me there as a kid and talk to
the Senators. I don't remember Tokyo Gardens. Where was it? Delores'
was on NW 23 just west of Broadway. Right? Didn't it close around 1971?

Does anyone remember Darrell's Drive In? It was located where Big Truck
Tacos is. Good burgers!

There were several separate businesses with different addresses at that
location before the church combined them together into a single structure
and made it one address.
Hey! Is that you? Where have you been?

The Rustic Inn, 39th & Portland, has been closed for over 20 years, I think.
Bummer when it closed.
You are correctomundo! It was one of the few 24 hour restaurants in town.
A place where any respectable drunk could sober up before driving home?

I remember it every time I drive by that location. Now it's a mail box place.

Never could figure out why Der Dutchman moved out of OKC. Nice seafood
restaurant.
I thought their hush puppies alone would keep them in business. C'mon,
everyone ate there for the hush puppies and butter and butter and more
butter. Duh! We'd all order an entree only to provide an excuse to eat 2 or
3 pounds of hush puppies and butter and butter and more butter.

...Glens was a gem on NW 10th street, near the fairgrounds...
Did Glen's own the meat packing place on the corner of NW 10th and N May?
I always thought they did but not sure.

The building had a heifer's head protruding from the front of the store.

I remember exactly where the spaghetti restaurant was in the early '70s. It
was in the SE corner of the building that is now Centro Cristiano Fe Agrada
A DIOS Agrada DIOS
I'm having a hard time remembering where Jack's Steakhouse was. If it
existed then you know where it was.

Prunepicker,
To answer your last two posts, the Family Spaghetti House is clearly the
name according to the DOK ad and that's also what I remembered very early
on in this conversation. I agree with CarltonsKeeper that Jack's was near 59th.
As for google maps, leavethe "1/2" off of the address, they don't do well with
fractions.
C. T.
I believe you 100%. I'm sure that's where the Family spaghetti House was.
Hey I can see the sign.

However, a little bit farther south, I can see Jack's sign. Unless I'm completely
out of my mind, it was the last place in the southern most part of a strip mall.
I'm thinking it was immediately north of Hillcrest Hospital.

Somebody confirm or provide the location of Jack's.

Remember House of Chan. It was the restaurant that we went to when out of
town relatives stayed at the Habana Inn.
I can still taste that warm rye bread. OKC put the House of Chan out of
business when it decided to "improve" the access to 66. What a shame. A
true OKC icon destroyed under the guise of progress.

Puke.

Barf.

Gut wrenching hurl.

Prunepicker,
No, the one on Lincoln and 36th.
C. T.
Do you mean Sussy's when it was on NW 23rd?

Prunepicker,
Tokyo Gardens was where Jack's (Sussy) was for a few years, Lincoln and about 47th. It's an Italian restaurant now. Yes, Delores was on 23rd and the last time I ate there was around 1978. I ate my first and last prime rib there. I'm sure it was good, I just didn't care for it and I still don't. If you offered to take me for prime rib I would turn you down.
C. T.
I remember the Tradewinds! Dad would take me there as a kid and talk to
the Senators. I don't remember Tokyo Gardens. Where was it? Delores'
was on NW 23 just west of Broadway. Right? Didn't it close around 1971?

Tokyo Gardens was where Jack's (Sussy) was for a few years, Lincoln and about 47th. It's an Italian restaurant now.Are you talking about the same place that Jack Sussman went to prison for setting on fire after he and Jake either had a falling out (public story) or had him, alone, take the fall for (reporter's suspicions)? If so, that's where my best man took me and my bride to dinner after our wedding in February, 1958 -- and embarassed both of us horribly by having Jack announce the event over the P.A. system!

After Sussy got out of prison, he returned to the restaurant business. I remember one of his (bearing his name) near the corner of SW 29 and May in the early 60s, and the last time I ever saw him he was holding court at Nomad, on N May a bit north of NW 70 or so. I always thought that Jake was still behind the scenes pulling his strings... And Prunie is totally correct about Jake's personality! However it fit perfectly for the man who ran the Jamboree and Derby clubs.

Are you talking about the same place that Jack Sussman went to prison for
setting on fire after he and Jake either had a falling out (public story) or had
him, alone, take the fall for (reporter's suspicions)?
If I remember he set the place on fire two years in a row. I'm thinking it
was in the late 60's. Maybe 67 and 68 or 68 & 69. I'm not sure. I just
remember it.


After Sussy got out of prison, he returned to the restaurant business. I
remember one of his (bearing his name) near the corner of SW 29 and
May in the early 60s, and the last time I ever saw him he was holding
court at Nomad, on N May a bit north of NW 70 or so. I always thought
that Jake was still behind the scenes pulling his strings...
I don't remember the place on SW 29th and May. Those were my
stompin' grounds. Where was it supposed to have been? I just don't
see it.


And Prunie is totally correct about Jake's personality! However it fit perfectly
for the man who ran the Jamboree and Derby clubs.
Jake wasn't a very likable person if you were doing business with him.
The other Samara Brothers took care of him. Cesar and Carroll had the
same personality. You were going to get bit.

I don't remember the place on SW 29th and May. Those were my
stompin' grounds. Where was it supposed to have been? I just don't
see it.It was an A-frame standalone building just east of May on the north side of SW 29; I think it was originally built as a Beverley's that didn't last long at all. I think it was Sussy's first effort after getting out of prison, and didn't last very long. He personally vetted customers coming in and if he didn't like their looks, told them to get out. He particularly didn't want long-haired hippies cluttering up his premises!

I think the building is still there but no longer a restaurant. I don't get down that way very much any more, though.

I think the building is still there but no longer a restaurant. I don't get down that way very much any more, though.

It's still there and is currently a pawn shop.

Jim,
That would be the place. I believe it was called "Jack's" or something catchy(?) like that. I worked in that area (4401 N. Lincoln, 4545 N. Lincoln, and 4900 N. Santa Fe) for quite a few years so I was fairly familiar with the restaurants there. I sure don't remember the S. W. 29th and May location. I still enjoy the Nomad II pizza and have enjoyed their other items in the past. By the way, Tokyo Gardens was open from about April, 1969 till sometime after September, 1975.
C. T.
Are you talking about the same place that Jack Sussman went to prison for setting on fire after he and Jake either had a falling out (public story) or had him, alone, take the fall for (reporter's suspicions)? If so, that's where my best man took me and my bride to dinner after our wedding in February, 1958 -- and embarassed both of us horribly by having Jack announce the event over the P.A. system!

After Sussy got out of prison, he returned to the restaurant business. I remember one of his (bearing his name) near the corner of SW 29 and May in the early 60s, and the last time I ever saw him he was holding court at Nomad, on N May a bit north of NW 70 or so. I always thought that Jake was still behind the scenes pulling his strings... And Prunie is totally correct about Jake's personality! However it fit perfectly for the man who ran the Jamboree and Derby clubs.

Prunepicker,
It burned in November, 1966, and I think summer of 1967. Also, I have stumbled onto another Sussy restaurant that I remember vaguely, but I never ate there, it was Tally Ho's at May and Hefner.
If I remember he set the place on fire two years in a row. I'm thinking it
was in the late 60's. Maybe 67 and 68 or 68 & 69. I'm not sure. I just
remember it.

I thought I would include a couple of DOK articles/ads about Jack Sussy's Italian Restaurant.
C. T.

Prunepicker,
It burned in November, 1966, and I think summer of 1967. Also, I have
stumbled onto another Sussy restaurant that I remember vaguely, but I never
ate there, it was Tally Ho's at May and Hefner.
Did Sussy have anything to do with the Nomad on N. May?

Prunepicker,
I think he did, shortly before he died. Also, there was a place on the North side of Reno, just East of Meridian called Sullivan's (I think) that advertised Sussy's pizza and I always wondered if he was involved in that restaurant or if they just had the Sussy recipes.
C. T.
Did Sussy have anything to do with the Nomad on N. May?

Prunepicker,
I think he did, shortly before he died. Also, there was a place on the North
side of Reno, just East of Meridian called Sullivan's (I think) that advertised
Sussy's pizza and I always wondered if he was involved in that restaurant or
if they just had the Sussy recipes.
C. T.
I believe Sullivan's was a big corporate type restaurant.

I just found this!I didn't realize there were so many Sussy's restaurants
including one on S Robinson.

http://archive.newsok.com/Repository/getimage.dll?path=DOK/1999/09/15/64/Img/Ar0640102.png http://archive.newsok.com/Repository/getimage.dll?path=DOK/1999/09/15/64/Img/Ar0640104.png http://archive.newsok.com/Repository/getimage.dll?path=DOK/1999/09/15/64/Img/Ar0640105.png http://archive.newsok.com/Repository/getimage.dll?path=DOK/1999/09/15/64/Img/Ar0640107.png http://archive.newsok.com/Repository/getimage.dll?path=DOK/1999/09/15/64/Img/Ar0640108.png

This is a the grand opening on February 6, 1949. For some reason the
archive wouldn't open.

http://archive.newsok.com/Repository/GetImage.dll?baseHref=DOK/1949/02/06&EntityID=Ad11410&imgExtension=png

Prunepicker,
My family went to the one on South Robinson quite a few times before we moved to Northeast OKC.
C. T.

Does anybody remember when many Sonic's changed over to for a short time to Star's?

Prunepicker,
My family went to the one on South Robinson quite a few times before we
moved to Northeast OKC.
C. T.
I don't remember it. We ate at El Charrito which was a few blocks south in
the Palacidos apartments. At least once a month. Jorge (hor-hey), everyone
called him George, was the Maitre D'. I last saw him at La Fiesta on N May
around 1999. I thought he looked like Danny Thomas.

Odd that I ate at Shipman's on @ 15th and S Robinson and El Charrito on
30th and S Robinson but I don't remember Sussy's being in the area.

Does anybody remember when many Sonic's changed over to for a short
time to Star's?
This sounds familiar but I can't put a finger on it. I'm going to guess it was
in the 80's.

Odd that I ate at Shipman's on @ 15th and S Robinson and El Charrito on
30th and S Robinson but I don't remember Sussy's being in the area.Not at all amazing to me. The SW 23 and Robinson location was just a hole in the wall, on the northeast corner of the intersection, and had almost no traffic that I ever saw. I stopped in a few times during my police-reporter days, and every time I was there I saw only Jake behind the cash register, and few if any customers. I sort of felt that it was actually a front for some other activity -- but in those days I was quite cynical, especially about the near-underworld of OKC...

Not at all amazing to me. The SW 23 and Robinson location was just a hole in
the wall, on the northeast corner of the intersection, and had almost no traffic
that I ever saw. I stopped in a few times during my police-reporter days, and
every time I was there I saw only Jake behind the cash register, and few if
any customers. I sort of felt that it was actually a front for some other
activity -- but in those days I was quite cynical, especially about the
near-underworld of OKC...
Jake behind the register of a dive? Were you ever afraid of getting snake bit?

I don't know how true this is but I heard though a grapevine that Jake had
about 100 taverns, aka dives, in OKC. You'd know better than I since
you're a little bit older than me and I respect your objectivity.

Jake told me the place just west of the Capitol was originally his Tempo
Club. The Oklahoman archives say otherwise. I do have a check he wrote
to me, @ 1998, that had Sussy's and the Kings Club imprinted on it. That
was the NE 36 Location.

I'm not sure which restaurants Sussman really owned, having personally
been somewhat involved with Jake, but I think the Samara's owned
everything except the building at 2300 N Lincoln, and I'm not so sure
about that.

Prunepicker,
There was no "El Charrito" (they were all El Chico's by then) and I believe Shipman's was closed too when Jake had the place on South Robinson. It was somewhere around the mid 70's. I believe when he closed that he opened his last place in the Paseo called The Spaghetti Factory. I did a quick search and he opened The Spaghetti Factory in December, 1978.
C. T.
I don't remember it. We ate at El Charrito which was a few blocks south in
the Palacidos apartments. At least once a month. Jorge (hor-hey), everyone
called him George, was the Maitre D'. I last saw him at La Fiesta on N May
around 1999. I thought he looked like Danny Thomas.

Odd that I ate at Shipman's on @ 15th and S Robinson and El Charrito on
30th and S Robinson but I don't remember Sussy's being in the area.

I KNEW there was once a Sussy's out there on NE 23rd . . . and now I feel validated. =)
(we used to drive by it, when I was a kid visiting down here, and I always noticed the portable sign parked out in front).

Does anyone remember a "Cajun" restaurant that I seem to recall was in some sort of small shopping mall?
I know that is awfully vague, but the food there was very good. It was the first place that I ever enjoyed "Blackened" fish.
This would have been back in the late 70's or early 80's.

Oh! And the place I'm thinking of didn't have a door to the outside of the shopping center.
It was an interior restaurant, inside of the shopping center.

Does anybody remember when many Sonic's changed over to for a short time to Star's?

No . . . I don't. Yet I do recall when The All-American Diner, out in Jones, changed/morphed/evolved into a Sonic . . . =)

So . . . Here's one that just popped into my mind, when thinking about Fine Old Restaurants: The Keller in the Kastle (over there, south of 10th and MacArthur). We ate there a few times and, although it was a bit "spendy", everything was invariably flawless. Where else could you get a smoked trout appetizer with a wonderful horseradish sauce to set the tone for what was to follow? And, in addition to being in a building/house that defined "unique", the entire grounds--or setting--of the place was nearly miraculous in its ambiance. Especially considering all that was just outside the perimeter of the establishment. (I was particularly fond of the Jaegerschnitzel. =)

RM,
We ate there once, but we were spoiled by Old Germany. The food was fine, just not my favorite German place. And of course, living in Northeast OKC, it was easier (not closer) to get to Old Germany.
C. T.
So . . . Here's one that just popped into my mind, when thinking about Fine Old Restaurants: The Keller in the Kastle (over there, south of 10th and MacArthur). We ate there a few times and, although it was a bit "spendy", everything was invariably flawless. Where else could you get a smoked trout appetizer with a wonderful horseradish sauce to set the tone for what was to follow? And, in addition to being in a building/house that defined "unique", the entire grounds--or setting--of the place was nearly miraculous in its ambiance. Especially considering all that was just outside the perimeter of the establishment. (I was particularly fond of the Jaegerschnitzel. =)

Another place worth mentioning is the Chandelle, the original rotating restaurant in Founder's Tower. I only ate there once and it was excellent. We were young and it was a little pricey while raising two boys and by the time we felt like we could afford it, it was gone.
C. T.

Another place worth mentioning is the Chandelle, the original rotating
restaurant in Founder's Tower. I only ate there once and it was excellent.
We were young and it was a little pricey while raising two boys and by
the time we felt like we could afford it, it was gone.
C. T.
Dad would take us there for Sunday brunch at least 2 times per month.
I didn't care for it. When Dad would ask where we wanted to eat we'd
yell Herman's or Swyden's, it was on @ SW 40th and S May. I liked
the carousel but, for a kid, the buffet wasn't too appealing. I wanted
fried chicken or fish. Kids don't appreciate salads and roast beef like
adults do.

One cool thing was I got to take dates there and sign the check. Talk
about feeling like Mister Big. The ladies menu didn't have prices listed so
they could honestly order what they wanted without feeling guilty. In
the late 60's the average tab was about $30 for 2.

Bonjour monsieur Prunie et mademoiselle. Voulez-vous le carrousel?
Oui monsieur (the maitre 'd is taking us to our reserved table). The Chef
has prepared a special menu for you if you so desire (hey, I'm 16 years
old and this old dude is treating me like I'm important). In the meantime
mademoiselle your menu and monsieur Prunie, yours. Bon appetite.

Now it's, "hi guys! Waddya wanna drink? Want some queso and chips
with that?" Today's special is ... (spoken at the speed of light and
incomprehensible.)

Oy for civility to return to civilization.

We ate at Keller once when we came into town for Christmas once year, it was pretty good but I do prefer Royal Bavaria on Sooner Road. My father is involved in the West Tenth Association and so are the owners of Keller so he knows the owners pretty well and has made some wood boxes for them.

We ate at Keller once when we came into town for Christmas once year,
it was pretty good but I do prefer Royal Bavaria on Sooner Road. My
father is involved in the West Tenth Association and so are the owners of
Keller so he knows the owners pretty well and has made some wood boxes
for them.
The Keller was pretty good. Odd thing, I had to specifically order red
cabbage (rot kohl) for my meal. I've always considered it to be a staple
with the sauerkraut. So much for my western North Carolina/ German
roots in the culinary arts.

I've not had the opportunity to eat at the Royal Bavaria. German food
is so subjective. I believe much of our acceptance has to do with how
our mothers prepared food.

I can tell you that the only thing I like at the Old Germantown restaurant
in Choctaw is the sauerbraten. OGT had a creamy gravy that was to
die for and the roast beef was incredibly tender. The rest of their menu
wasn't very good. That goes for the wiener schnizel, meat balls, brats,
rot kohl and sauerkraut.

The Keller and Ingrid's is far, far better as far as my taste is concerned.

RM,
We ate there once, but we were spoiled by Old Germany. The food was fine, just not my favorite German place. And of course, living in Northeast OKC, it was easier (not closer) to get to Old Germany.
C. T.

That place down on S. Sooner 'round Moore ain't no slouch . . .
But it ain't necessarily, nor actually, an "Old Restaurant" . . . =)