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kevinpate
12-29-2014, 08:08 PM
I once had a need for a root canal in the wee hours of the morning. That was a walk in the park by comparison.

Dustin
12-29-2014, 08:48 PM
hahahaha...haha..ha...

All you can do is laugh.

Achilleslastand
12-29-2014, 10:08 PM
They don't call Bobby "Big Game" for nothing...............

Bellaboo
12-30-2014, 07:55 AM
I read Mike Stoops paycheck is in the neighborhood of $ 840,000. I also heard they ran Brent Venables off to make room for Mike. Not only is Bob overpaid, brother Mike is overpaid and incompetent. Against Texas Tech, the sideline commentators said that OU had no motivation. Last night they said the same thing.
Trevor Knight needs to give it up.

dcsooner
12-30-2014, 07:57 AM
I read Mike Stoops paycheck is in the neighborhood of $ 840,000. I also heard they ran Brent Venables off to make room for Mike. Not only is Bob overpaid, brother Mike is overpaid and incompetent. Against Texas Tech, the sideline commentators said that OU had no motivation. Last night they said the same thing.
Trevor Knight needs to give it up.

THIS IS THE TrUTH!

bucfan1512
12-30-2014, 08:43 AM
I read Mike Stoops paycheck is in the neighborhood of $ 840,000. I also heard they ran Brent Venables off to make room for Mike. Not only is Bob overpaid, brother Mike is overpaid and incompetent. Against Texas Tech, the sideline commentators said that OU had no motivation. Last night they said the same thing.
Trevor Knight needs to give it up.

If he gets his bonus its almost a million. Not sure who or what issue those.

FOOTBALL | ASSISTANT | SALARIES | USA TODAY SPORTS (http://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/salaries/football/assistant)

warreng88
12-30-2014, 08:55 AM
Am I the only one who forgot the game was yesterday? Nope, looks like the OU players and coaches did too...

DocThunder
12-30-2014, 08:55 AM
I think we all could agree that we don't want "this" Bob Stoops. The one that excepts mediocrity. The one that has the program on Auto-pilot. We want the Hungry Bob Stoops. I want that one. The Hungry one will not except mediocrity and will do what it takes to make it happen.....No Excuses.

He needs to clean house w/ every coach. Yes, every assistant ( except Gundy, RB's are producing at expectations ).... WR's are terrible / Oline is weak. The OC needs to go. The DC needs to go. LB's are terrible / DL is average / Secondary is so bad, I don't have to say it. The Special Teams is a disaster. ...and if Bob is not Hungry enough to stay, then we find someone that is hungry. I want the Hungry Bob Stoops to stay and win and retire at 70. But I don't want to see this ever again. That is embarrassing. I'm not saying I want perfection because that does not exist. But it is time to find some new assistants that want the next NC.

And Bob needs to find some local kids w/ heart. That must be in the mix. Football is played with the heart. And we lost at home against KSU / Baylor because we have ZERO heart, and Clemson was the final display of ZERO heart. ...if the 18 - 22 year old can't appreciate the scholarship, than find some local kids from Oklahoma that dream of playing there instead. If we are going to lose, it might as well be w/ local kids playing hard. ...and not what I have seen for the past few years.

Bob Stoops needs to hit the "Reset Button" this morning. Mediocrity is a plague and we have it.

Stickman
12-30-2014, 08:58 AM
They don't call Bobby "Big Game" for nothing...............

I think they need to give him another raise.

BTW I attended O-State.

All kidding aside, is the Big Twelve really the bottom of the barrel? :whisper: I'm glad O-State is not playing an SEC team.

venture
12-30-2014, 09:20 AM
Yes the Big 12 is currently the very last place conference in win-loss records for the bowl season...of ANY FBS conference.

warreng88
12-30-2014, 09:24 AM
I imagine the fundraising for the new stadium improvements will slow down a lot...

DocThunder
12-30-2014, 09:40 AM
I don't care if Bob Stoops makes $1 M - $10 M per year, just be hungry. Bob needs to quit hitting the big red "EASY" button and hit the Big Crimson Red "Reset" button from the heart. ...and then go to work. We can all appreciate that approach.

If we had a Receivers Coach, then we would have converted some of those 3rd and longs. If we had a Receiver Coach, we would have a couple of guys that can stretch the field. If we had a Receivers Coach, then we could have a group of guys that can make plays. ( I like Quick, he is the best one we have, but we need 3 more and a Great Pass Catching Tight End. ). And this is a must, if a receiver is too afraid to catch it across the middle, then he doesn't need an OU scholarship. Every One of our receivers have "alligator arms" when coming across the middle.

If the opposing team does NOT respect the pass or receivers, then they will put 8 in the box .... ie. Clemson !!!!!!!! ...It must START here.

Jersey Boss
12-30-2014, 09:45 AM
Thank god Lon Kruger can get our minds off of this.

Bellaboo
12-30-2014, 10:06 AM
Receivers doesn't matter if you can't throw the ball. Sorry, but Knight couldn't throw the ball in the ocean if he was ankle deep in the surf. First pass he threw was into quadruple coverage trying to hit Shepherd, while Quick was 10 yards downfield with no one on him. He predetermines who he's throwing to, and all 11 on the other side of the ball know it.

borchard
12-30-2014, 10:10 AM
Just sad when it's so apparent that you're sucking that the commentators start spoofing on you.
Heard this from Reece Davis during the TX/ARK game:
"To compare Oklahoma to a bug hitting a windshield would be an insult to bugs. Because at least bugs go full speed before getting splatted." ??!

adaniel
12-30-2014, 10:11 AM
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Yep, I think Trevor Knight played himself out of a starting position last night. He must have promised his first born to the devil for that Alabama game, becuase he has looked absolutely pedestrian ever since. Even during the most previous spring game, his throws were not that good but everyone was in denial, "Oh its just rust, he'll be better in time for next season." We should have seen this coming.

Bellaboo
12-30-2014, 10:12 AM
Heupel makes over 600,000. He can't find his butt if both hands were tied behind his back.

Bring Mangino back, I doubt he'd call a 3 yard out to the far sideline and get it picked off for a TD like K-State did to us.

OU is the laughing stock of the bowl season as it stands.

DocThunder
12-30-2014, 10:46 AM
I think College Football is very simple now. You are either in the play-off or you're not. It is now like the 64 teams for March Madness. Thankfully no-one was watching the Russell Athletic Bowl. ....that is how bad the season was. A bad season put us in the worst bowl, to get blown-out by the 17 ranked team in the nation. THAT, is the reality this morning. I'm glad we did not play the 16th ranked team in the nation, that score would have been REALLY bad... sarc.

I have an idea for Coach Bob Stoops, Raise the standard. Hold the standard. Find people that understand and believe in the standard. ...Heart. Heart. Heart. We, The Sooner Nation, will accept that. We will stand with that. Where are the Rocky Calmus's / Teddy Lehman's / Derrick Straits's / Curtis Lofton's / Jason White was not a 4 star either... / Mark Clayton's / Andre Wolfolk's ??

Laramie
12-30-2014, 11:46 AM
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40-6

The Russell Athletic Bowl was a tough horse pill to swallow; true example of the Peter Principle (no pun intended), that game sucked. A day of redemption for former OU co-defensive coordinator Brent Venables, who felt that the return of Mike Stoops was a slap in the face to his ego.

Coaches like Barry Switzer, Joe Paterno, Bobby Bowden & Mack Brown are good examples that no one is safe or sacred; it comes down to 'what have you done for me lately?'

Stoops era losses to USC 55–19 (Orange Bowl, 2005), Kansas State 35-7 (December, 2003) & West Virginia 48-28 (Fiesta Bowl, 2008) should be a grim reminder that you can't sit on your laurels

OU Sooner fans will recovery; we are spoiled brats. Let's not forget the good as well as the bad times when we reflect on the Stoops era:

Pre-2014 Sugar Bowl: The best and worst of the Bob Stoops era | NewsOK.com (http://newsok.com/sports/ou/stoops/)

Just the facts
12-30-2014, 11:47 AM
Am I the only one who forgot the game was yesterday? Nope, looks like the OU players and coaches did too...

To tell the truth, I stumbled across it just before half-time while channel surfing.

Just the facts
12-30-2014, 11:58 AM
.Stoops era losses to USC 55–19 (Orange Bowl, 2005), Kansas State 35-7 (December, 2003) & West Virginia 48-28 (Fiesta Bowl, 2008) should be a grim reminder that you can't sit on your laurels

Let's not forget 2007 Fiesta Bowl.

2007 Fiesta Bowl - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_Fiesta_Bowl)

mugofbeer
12-30-2014, 12:09 PM
If there is a fire to be lit under both Stoops' butts, this should be it. Otherwise, even I am going to be OK if they stop renewing his contracts. We need someone with some passion and Stoops seems to have lost it. Mike Stoops seems just lost.

Pete
12-30-2014, 12:17 PM
In a way, the Bama bowl win last year set the stage for this season; i.e. over confidence, lack of changes and tons of pressure. It basically papered over lots of problems that had existed all season and were never really addressed.

So in a similar way, last night's debacle could be a wakeup call.

I would think either Stoops rediscovers his drive and mojo next season, or he may just end up stepping down.

Just the facts
12-30-2014, 01:28 PM
If a bad bowl loss was a wake up call Stoops would be walking around like this most of the time.

http://dontmakethatface1.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/bug-eyes.jpg

Paseofreak
12-30-2014, 01:47 PM
I'm shocked that Loyal Sooners aren't calling for a total house cleaning. Heck, more people are calling for Scott Brooks head (a ludicrous notion in my book) than Stoops'. If I failed at my job this badly I wouldn't have one.

adaniel
12-30-2014, 01:59 PM
I'm shocked that Loyal Sooners aren't calling for a total house cleaning. Heck, more people are calling for Scott Brooks head (a ludicrous notion in my book) than Stoops'. If I failed at my job this badly I wouldn't have one.

I think this game may have removed the remaining layers of teflon off of Stoops.

I'm hearing lots of things I thought I would never hear from certain people concerning his future at OU.

Pete
12-30-2014, 02:00 PM
The huge complicating factor is that they are getting ready to start a $400 million fundraising drive for stadium improvements.

Who would have thought the program would be in this situation a year ago when all that was announced?

venture
12-30-2014, 02:30 PM
Definitely think keeping Stoops is needed for program stability, but that in order for him to remain he also much replace his coordinators to get some fresh blood in there. Bob can only do so much, but the problem is...he isn't doing what he CAN do...hold his subordinates accountable.

warreng88
12-30-2014, 02:42 PM
Jordan Phillips to enter the draft. No shock there.

Pete
12-30-2014, 02:46 PM
How do you begin to explain how Brent Venables had statistically poor defenses while he was head DC at OU, then goes to Clemson and has a #1 ranked defense that proved it on the field last night?

When Bob brought Mike back, it seemed like a very necessary step. The defense had been in relative shambles... But now in the same number of years (3), Mike has one of the worst defenses in OU history and Brent has one of the best in the country for what has been a lesser program.

Unfortunately, this points to the guy at the top (Bob), especially because he was a former DC himself and no doubt gets very involved on that side of the ball.

Just the facts
12-30-2014, 03:07 PM
There is no doubt the wheels have come off, but they came off about 5 years ago and a lot of people are just now noticing.

borchard
12-30-2014, 03:48 PM
There is no doubt the wheels have come off, but they came off about 5 years ago and a lot of people are just now noticing.

I think for a long time now we have just thought that the past year was an aberration. Every year we have thought that. Apparently they weren't

Just the facts
12-30-2014, 04:13 PM
I'll say this, Stoops milked that one NC for all it was worth.

Plutonic Panda
12-30-2014, 06:27 PM
I think we all could agree that we don't want "this" Bob Stoops. The one that excepts mediocrity. The one that has the program on Auto-pilot. We want the Hungry Bob Stoops. I want that one. The Hungry one will not except mediocrity and will do what it takes to make it happen.....No Excuses.

He needs to clean house w/ every coach. Yes, every assistant ( except Gundy, RB's are producing at expectations ).... WR's are terrible / Oline is weak. The OC needs to go. The DC needs to go. LB's are terrible / DL is average / Secondary is so bad, I don't have to say it. The Special Teams is a disaster. ...and if Bob is not Hungry enough to stay, then we find someone that is hungry. I want the Hungry Bob Stoops to stay and win and retire at 70. But I don't want to see this ever again. That is embarrassing. I'm not saying I want perfection because that does not exist. But it is time to find some new assistants that want the next NC.

And Bob needs to find some local kids w/ heart. That must be in the mix. Football is played with the heart. And we lost at home against KSU / Baylor because we have ZERO heart, and Clemson was the final display of ZERO heart. ...if the 18 - 22 year old can't appreciate the scholarship, than find some local kids from Oklahoma that dream of playing there instead. If we are going to lose, it might as well be w/ local kids playing hard. ...and not what I have seen for the past few years.

Bob Stoops needs to hit the "Reset Button" this morning. Mediocrity is a plague and we have it.Hi OKvision4u!

Laramie
12-30-2014, 07:16 PM
Just seems as though everyone wants their university to win a national championship. Approximately 340 schools play Division I football, 75 of which are reputable football name-recognition schools; we know the prestige of winning the crystal trophy.

The pressure to improve among the top 25 elite football universities is enormous. New, renovated & expanded campus venues with amenities (player oriented facilities) have become the current trend.

Something has got to give...

Just the facts
12-30-2014, 08:22 PM
Winning a national championship is great, playing for one is still pretty good. Winning a bowl game is okay. Not even showing up for the game year after year after year - unacceptable. Personally, I voted with my remote control and have maybe watched 10 OU games in the last 5 years.

Plutonic Panda
12-31-2014, 12:44 AM
The Rant: Tulsa Columnist Says Stoops Should Go | KFOR.com (http://kfor.com/2012/09/25/the-rant-2/)

DocThunder
12-31-2014, 03:22 PM
Are we in the Gary Gibbs years for OU right now ? It is not. But it does have that feel to it.

Coach Stoops, we are behind you, but put a fire under their butts, get a few new faces in the staff and hit it again.

ljbab728
01-03-2015, 10:26 PM
I'm not surprised that there might be some changes in the coaching staff at OU but this isn't a move I would have expected.

BREAKING: OU's Mike Stoops To Interview With Les Miles, LSU - News9.com - Oklahoma City, OK - News, Weather, Video and Sports | (http://www.news9.com/story/27753592/breaking-ous-mike-stoops-to-interview-with-les-miles-lsu)

Urbanized
01-03-2015, 10:43 PM
Did Dean say anything about being 70/30?

venture
01-04-2015, 01:15 AM
Bob won't fire anyone, but I'm sure he will strongly advise certain people to find a new job.

mugofbeer
01-04-2015, 03:20 PM
Here's my take. With the exception of last year, recent OU teams have gone to bowls and just gotten demolished. My experience was in the NC game when USC blew OU out. What I see is a staff that just doesn't have the ability to prepare and people get tired, really fast, of spending money to travel to a bowl game only to see the team figuratively not even show up. A good game and a loss is one thing, total lack of preparation and effort is another.

The talent is there, it just doesn't get results. I was at the Baylor game and watched the Bears go down the field and score a touchdown on nothing but 5 yard sideline passes and bubble-screens to the same place. The defensive back was totally confounded because he was required to play 10 yards off the line. Pass after pass, down after down they did the same thing - 7 yard gains while the DB ran up to make the tackle. Mike Stoops just threw his hands in the air as if to say, "I have no idea what to do." At that point, I became convinced a new DC may be in order. The fans booed but, despite what some observers were saying were out-of-line boos at the defensive back, it was booing of Mike Stoops who just seemed clueless. If Bob Stoops can't figure out where change is needed, then it may be Bob has lost his fire and needs to have the annual renewal of his contract stopped.

positano
01-04-2015, 06:55 PM
Bob won't fire anyone, but I'm sure he will strongly advise certain people to find a new job.

He fired Jay Norvell this evening, according to the news reports.

venture
01-04-2015, 07:40 PM
Well how about that.

venture
01-04-2015, 07:48 PM
D. Ponamsky reporting CP withdraws his name | Page 2 | TigerDroppings.com (http://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/p/54761433/d-ponamsky-reporting-cp-withdraws-his-name/page-2/)

Seems be the mood is Mike is gone to LSU.

Bellaboo
01-04-2015, 08:48 PM
D. Ponamsky reporting CP withdraws his name | Page 2 | TigerDroppings.com (http://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/p/54761433/d-ponamsky-reporting-cp-withdraws-his-name/page-2/)

Seems be the mood is Mike is gone to LSU.

That would be just fine.

dankrutka
01-04-2015, 09:10 PM
D. Ponamsky reporting CP withdraws his name | Page 2 | TigerDroppings.com (http://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/p/54761433/d-ponamsky-reporting-cp-withdraws-his-name/page-2/)

Seems be the mood is Mike is gone to LSU.

Most sources are saying Mike Stoops is not a serious candidate for the LSU job.

I'm surprised Norvell was the first to go. I'd have thought Bobby Jack Wright or Tim Kish would have gone first. At least Norvell was a good recruiter even if the wide receivers had a bad year. You can't even say that for the other coaches I mentioned. Interesting...

Urbanized
01-04-2015, 09:12 PM
Seems that might mean both that Heupel stays and DGB gone...

Filthy
01-05-2015, 11:42 AM
At least Norvell was a good recruiter even if the wide receivers had a bad year. You can't even say that for the other coaches I mentioned.

Norvell was a good recruiter, but he didn't ever develop talent. Its not just a "bad year." The WRs have never gotten better under Norvell. I cant think of one single guy who made significant progress while being in the system...yet, teams all over the Country seem to be able to develop them.

All of the good OU WRs over the last several years, were already super talented when they got here, as freshman...or transferred in. Getting Lacolton Bester, Jalen Saunders, and Justin Brown to transfer in...masked all of the true issues. So good riddance...there are many more dominoes yet to fall.

mugofbeer
01-05-2015, 12:01 PM
I agree. Much of the problem with the sooners was once we lost #3, the QB had virtually no one to throw to who could get open.

warreng88
01-05-2015, 01:13 PM
Most sources are saying Mike Stoops is not a serious candidate for the LSU job.

I'm surprised Norvell was the first to go. I'd have thought Bobby Jack Wright or Tim Kish would have gone first. At least Norvell was a good recruiter even if the wide receivers had a bad year. You can't even say that for the other coaches I mentioned. Interesting...

I read that Kish was gone right after the bowl game actually. At least that was the word on oufans.com. But a DC or OC leaving would be bigger news.

dankrutka
01-05-2015, 01:47 PM
Norvell was a good recruiter, but he didn't ever develop talent. Its not just a "bad year." The WRs have never gotten better under Norvell. I cant think of one single guy who made significant progress while being in the system...yet, teams all over the Country seem to be able to develop them.

All of the good OU WRs over the last several years, were already super talented when they got here, as freshman...or transferred in. Getting Lacolton Bester, Jalen Saunders, and Justin Brown to transfer in...masked all of the true issues. So good riddance...there are many more dominoes yet to fall.

Yeah. I looked back over his WR recruits over the years and it's a pretty dismal track record.

Richard at Remax
01-05-2015, 02:21 PM
Yeah. I looked back over his WR recruits over the years and it's a pretty dismal track record.

Besides Shepard and Stills, it has been pretty underwhelming (Justin Brown and Jalen Saunders already had the talent when they transferred)

Just the facts
01-05-2015, 02:57 PM
The first time you knew OU had problems was when the coaching staff couldn't decide who the starting quarterback should be. Here is the deal, if you can't tell who should start at qb, when one of them is a returning starter at that position, then something went really wrong.

Filthy
01-05-2015, 03:41 PM
DGB is said to have received a high 2nd round draft grade. I had always assumed that there would be a 0% chance that he stays next year...and with Norvell departing...that percentage would actually somehow become even worse. However, with that low of a grade.....if OU can bring in a play caller like Spavital, that has a track record of distributing the ball to, and featuring receivers, I think OU can make a compelling argument to DBG to stay. It would give him the opportunity to improve his draft status, to a mid to high 1st round pick. (Of course, this is all nil...if the rumor of his draft grade has been misinterpreted)

ljbab728
01-05-2015, 11:52 PM
This could be an interesting Stoops news conference on Tuesday.

Oklahoma football: Bob Stoops calls Tuesday morning news conference; staff changes imminent? | NewsOK.com (http://m.newsok.com/stoops-calls-tuesday-morning-news-conference-staff-changes-imminent/article/5382012)


Sources close to the program said Stoops could announce staff changes at Tuesday's news conference, which would be a major shift in how he usually handles such things.

"Many more changes to come," said one source. "I'd say this week's going to be historic."

dankrutka
01-06-2015, 12:59 AM
The first time you knew OU had problems was when the coaching staff couldn't decide who the starting quarterback should be. Here is the deal, if you can't tell who should start at qb, when one of them is a returning starter at that position, then something went really wrong.

What season are you taking about? Knight was the starter without competition going into this season. Knight only lost the job because of injury. Knight was mediocre, but I'm not sure what you're referring to.

warreng88
01-06-2015, 06:45 AM
Josh Heupel let go.

http://m.newsok.com/report-oklahoma-co-offensive-coordinator-josh-heupel-fired/article/5382175

borchard
01-06-2015, 06:59 AM
When you realized that Samje Perine was a STUD RB, but then you realized the coaching staff saw him in August and couldn't figure out that we needed to get him the ball until NOVEMBER? WTH?!

Pete
01-06-2015, 08:45 AM
Heupel has confirmed his firing through Twitter.

Stoops press conference at 1PM.