Honeycutt had been one of the most consistent parts of the offense but his mistakes at the end cost OU the game, though the defense was equally culpable. No excuse to lose to KSU at home. This OU team never even deserved to be mentioned as a playoff team. Hopefully they get a few more wins and a decent bowl because the rest of this season is getting players reps for hopefully a better team in 2015, though the schedule will be brutal.

Honeycutt had been one of the most consistent parts of the offense but his mistakes at the end cost OU the game, though the defense was equally culpable. No excuse to lose to KSU at home. This OU team never even deserved to be mentioned as a playoff team. Hopefully they get a few more wins and a decent bowl because the rest of this season is getting players reps for hopefully a better team in 2015, though the schedule will be brutal.

I think the one takeaway is that Hunnycutt has been amazing for the most part, but it shouldn't come down to blaming him for the loss. If everyone else can have these continuous issues and mistakes, but he has one off game...I'm not going to blame him for the rest of the team not doing their part all along. Of course go to SoonerFans and other sites and they cursing his name up and down...gotta love dumbass fans.

Honeycutt had been one of the most consistent parts of the offense but his mistakes at the end cost OU the game, though the defense was equally culpable. No excuse to lose to KSU at home. This OU team never even deserved to be mentioned as a playoff team. Hopefully they get a few more wins and a decent bowl because the rest of this season is getting players reps for hopefully a better team in 2015, though the schedule will be brutal.

Agreed they have not played to playoff hype but I'm not going to get too upset at losing to a massively fired up TCU who possibly IS playoff-worthy and K-State who is quite often underrated because they rarely play top-quality non-conference teams. They were ranked just below OU. No doubt OU should have won but mistakes cost games

KSU 31 - OU 30


Tough loss: Blocked extra point, two close field goals (missed opportunity) & a bad cross field pass inside your own five yard line (interception for TD)...

OU Sooners definitely needs to target some good recruits for the offensive line.

Like we used to tell 'em in little league, "You can't win 'em all." Of course, we coached for ............. free. Relax boys and girls.......its just a game.

I guess it comes down to...how many more games do we want to keep singing the line "it could have gone the other way if OU didn't..." and so on. There are some very big issues with this team right now, but I can understand why some don't want to admit to them.

Sure this may have been one of the best offensive games the team has played this year - that is NOT a good thing. This offense would be dead without the running backs and Shep. The depth on WR is appalling, the performance of Trevor has been ghastly sporadic at best...about the only thing really solid are the backs and the O-Line which hasn't been too terrible.

The defense was touted as amazing has been pretty disappointing from those expectations.

When you pay a coaching staff as much as OU does...the results simply need to be better. At this point I think OU has a good shot at being 5-4 in the conference. Which would really say something because that would mean 3 home loses for OU (the other two I'm expecting being Baylor and OSU) just this season. Considering Stoops has only lost 5 home games, before today, overall...that is pretty disturbing.

OSU beating OU in Norman??!! Under what rationale are you making a call like that? Baylor a good case could be made for, but OSU? Ok I get it if your an OSU fan but otherwise, sheeesh.

OSU beating OU in Norman??!! Under what rationale are you making a call like that? Baylor a good case could be made for, but OSU? Ok I get it if your an OSU fan but otherwise, sheeesh.

Rivalry games always go to a different level. ISU/Iowa is a good example.

Rivalry games always go to a different level. ISU/Iowa is a good example.

Yes they do go to a different level. However for it to be truly a rivalry, the teams have to have some level of competitive equality. OU v Nebraska, OU v Texas being two examples of a rivalry. The overall record in this series is 84-17-7, favoring OU. The record for this century is 11-3, again favoring OU. This is not a true rivalry.

Yes they do go to a different level. However for it to be truly a rivalry, the teams have to have some level of competitive equality. OU v Nebraska, OU v Texas being two examples of a rivalry. The overall record in this series is 84-17-7, favoring OU. The record for this century is 11-3, again favoring OU. This is not a true rivalry.

Understood. I guess I'm just not as smug of an OU fan and others tend to be and understand at times...even lesser teams can find the motivation to beat a statistically better one.

Yes lesser teams can find motivation to beat better ones, an example of Texas beating OU last year. However the records are pretty clear that OSU is not one of them in the series with OU.

Yes lesser teams can find motivation to beat better ones, an example of Texas beating OU last year. However the records are pretty clear that OSU is not one of them in the series with OU.

You still aren't grasping what I'm getting at, so it's not really worth it. LOL I went to OU, I'm a fan...so I really don't get your issue. Moving on...

Waiting for some things so I'll toss in a few thoughts here..

Most strangely disappointing OU home loss I can recall in a long time.

Never thought Hunnicutt would miss the FG before halftime.

Never thought he'd get a PAT blocked, although it wasn't his fault.

And SURELY never thought he'd whiff on a nineteen-yard FG - not even an extra point.

It was one of those games OU just wasn't supposed to win, and a season that had lots of hope that just wasn't meant to be.

Blaming Hunnicutt solely is really missing the point. Yeah, yeah, I get it, he kicks the FG, we (probably) win the game. But if our OC tries just once to get TK on the edge with a 2nd and goal from the KSU 1-yard line, I like his chances in a footrace to the corner flag. Or a naked bootleg when KSU was stuffing every gap and crushing to the inside virtually before the snap. Or if the OC doesn't put TK in a position to even throw that awful flat pass pick-six, or if TK reads the defense properly and bails out, we don't give them seven huge points. And even at the end, if we don't burn timeouts by virtue of our almost embarrassingly predictable ability not to get a play called at a critical time, we might force KSU to punt and get the ball back one last time.

The bottom line is that this Sooner team just isn't as good as we'd hoped. We all got a little bit smokey-eyed after a great Sugar Bowl that led us to believe we were (a lot) better than we really are, and at a lot of positions:

* We now realize why Stoops tried so hard to get DGB eligible. We're seven games into the season and only now seeing Durron Neal emerge as a 2nd pass catching candidate.
* We have the worst safety play since Stoops arrived in Norman. And how we got this bad at safety - an area MIke Stoops has defined responsibility - is astonishing. Again, seven games into the season, we shouldn't be having basic alignment and communication issues - let alone keystone kops play at times. Something's wrong there. Maybe these are leftover Venables recruits? Maybe these guys just can't play at the level we need? Don't know.
* Heupel is a good game planner, but sometimes shoots himself in the foot as a play caller. THe offense we ran against KSU was essentially the one most fans and observers have been looking for all season. TK was confident, the slant passes - though breathlessly low a few times - worked and really picked the KSU secondary apart. These are precisely the kinds of throws TK can make, and play-action becomes a beautiful thing. Why it took seven games to get here escapes me. Yet as good as the plan was, you still make a call like a flat-pass from your own one-yard line? Or opt not even to try to get your QB on the corner with a 2nd and goal at the KSU 1-yard-line to win the game? I don't get it, although I have a feeling its because Heupel just doesn't have full faith in the offense, but that's a separate rant.
* This OL has been really good, but not dominant as many has predicted. Its been disappointing at times, particularly at C. Ty Darlington has really struggled. Sadly, we lose a good chunk of this line going into 2015.

Going forward, the rest of this season is a measure of Stoops' ability to keep the team together in light of *all* the pre-season goals now being off the table. Don't for a second think that trip to ISU is a gimme with this defense. KU at home should be a walkover, and I personally have no clue what to expect from Baylor given how grisly they play on the road. I think there are some serious internal/behind the scenes problems going on up in Stillwater, and given the state of their OL that's a game OU should be able to physically dominate at the line in Norman, although the stakes will be lower than any of us had hoped.

Lots of folks are down on Stoops for another underachieving year, and while I hesitate to go down that road ,it's hard to ignore the idea. I don't think this Sooner team, in reality, is in the same league as ND, FSU or the rest, but at the same time we have more talent than a 5-2 record suggests. We've dropped two games by five points, and if nothing else it suggests just how narrow is the path between a title contender and a "wait-til-next-year" crew really is. That notwithstanding, it doesn't make this year any less disappointing. Lots of potential, just not realized.

TK was 26-32 (81.25%) for 318 yards, 3 TD and one very costly interception. The team was 7-11 on 3rd down, 64%. TK was 14-15 when running the play-action. I know the loss sucks, but it gives a lot to look at and build on and hopefully Heupel will go more for the PA on first down to keep the D honest.

TK was 26-32 (81.25%) for 318 yards, 3 TD and one very costly interception. The team was 7-11 on 3rd down, 64%. TK was 14-15 when running the play-action. I know the loss sucks, but it gives a lot to look at and build on and hopefully Heupel will go more for the PA on first down to keep the D honest.

The kicker that I think Heupel may, in his heart of hearts, had hoped was that if TK saw the coverage on that bitter pick-six, he and Neal would have had an automatic to a pump and go, and given how quickly the corner bit on the throw, a pump and go could very easily have gone 98 yards the other direction. There was zero, and I mean zero, safety help deep.

Alas.

I think the biggest thing killing us this year is lack of WR depth. Sterling Shepherd is playing out of his mind but that is because there is no one else who will catch the damn ball! He has 49 catches for 911 yards. Neal is next with 339 yards, Young with 144, Bell with 132 and Ford with 100. For comparison, the total yards that have been thrown for this year is 1,862 yards. So Shepherd has 49% of OU's receiving yards this season.

Yes they do go to a different level. However for it to be truly a rivalry, the teams have to have some level of competitive equality. OU v Nebraska, OU v Texas being two examples of a rivalry. The overall record in this series is 84-17-7, favoring OU. The record for this century is 11-3, again favoring OU. This is not a true rivalry.

As an OU fan I do not think there is any doubt that OU-OSU is a rivalry. First thing, it is a rivalry in multiple sports, football is not all that matters. Second, it's an in-state school which naturally creates a rivalry among the fan bases. To suggest it's not a rivalry just seems like a way to backhanded way to insult OSU. Definitely agree that it comes off as very smug.

As an OU fan I do not think there is any doubt that OU-OSU is a rivalry. First thing, it is a rivalry in multiple sports, football is not all that matters. Second, it's an in-state school which naturally creates a rivalry among the fan bases. To suggest it's not a rivalry just seems like a way to backhanded way to insult OSU. Definitely agree that it comes off as very smug.

Must admit the "Bedlam" aspect of the "rivalry" has, for most of my life, been lost on me. Now, let me qualify that some - I grew up in the 70's, and into the 80's, when OSU was, no disrespect intended, a doormat. I remember the week after Billy Sims fumbled away the national title at the Nebraska 3 yard line in 1978, we came back and curbstomped the Pokes 62-7, and it was memorable only because Missouri beat Nebraska that same day, 35-31, and that got OU an NU rematch. That it was OSU we beat "in the middle" was largely irrelevant.

I think '76 is one of those exception-proves-the-rule thing. OSU trotted out its own flavor of the option/wishbone offense, and Terry Miller ran ragged against a really young OU team, winning 31-24.

As for the others, I don't remember the details of too many other OSU scores, and I don't mean that to sound smug or arrogant, but just as I don't remember all the scores from that era when we played Rice or Baylor or Oregon. They were wins, usually big wins, and merely a stopover on the way to the next week.

Obviously, things have changed over the last ten years, and OSU has surely stepped up its program and talent level, and the days of the 50- and 60-point beatdowns are a thing of the past. When the Big 12 is at stake, sure, that makes OU-OSU a much bigger deal, but in terms of the game itself, I think it will always be more meaningful as a rivalry game to OSU than to OU.

All that aside, though, I think something weird is going on behind the scenes at OSU this year; don't get the impression Gundy is very happy there anymore, the staff turnover has been kinda conspicuous, and some of the comments of those who have departed suggest there are some hard feelings along the way. If Gundy isn't happy with...??, Holder, Pickens, whomever..can't be good for the overall program.

I primarily grew up in the '90s and Bedlam was always a big deal in football and basketball (and baseball). Students always talked about the games and bragging rights were on the line. When I headed to OU a lot of my friends headed to OSU. The close connections just create rivalries. We barely beat OSU my freshman year, lost to them my sophomore and junior years, and won convincingly my senior year. Is OSU as big of a rival for OU fans as Texas? No. But to say it's not a rivalry at all seems quite a stretch. A loss to OSU hurts more than one to Iowa State because it is a rivalry.

Of course, OU has a huge edge in the all-time football series, but the games and programs have generally been competitive for 20 years now. OU has really had OSU's number and pulled out some crazy wins the last couple years or else things wouldn't look nearly as lopsided recently. Anyway, I really do enjoy the rivalry and I'm glad OSU has raised the level of their program as it makes things more interesting.

I think the biggest thing killing us this year is lack of WR depth. Sterling Shepherd is playing out of his mind but that is because there is no one else who will catch the damn ball! He has 49 catches for 911 yards. Neal is next with 339 yards, Young with 144, Bell with 132 and Ford with 100. For comparison, the total yards that have been thrown for this year is 1,862 yards. So Shepherd has 49% of OU's receiving yards this season.

I agree. I think if DGB was playing we would be undefeated. Having that extra experience would've been huge for the offense. It should be much improved experience-wise next year. We take a hit on the O-line though but that group has been overrated anyway. The problem next year is that the schedule is much more difficult: at Tennessee, at KState, at Baylor and at OSU. WVU at home could be one of premier games since they are really good and glad OU got a win there.

Despite the current pessimism in the Sooner nation, this team is very young. OU should be as good or better next season at every spot except the offensive and defensive lines... and there's potential with both those units.

So, basically, OU will be ranked high again in the preseason and it'll be national championship or bust. ;)

It's tough when you lose two games; the recent home loss (K-State) was plagued with lost opportunities. OU football over the years have set the bar high with expectations.

Expectations were high this season; anything less than making one of those final four playoff spots has to be deflating. We need to salvage what is left in this season.


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Cleveland County:

Joe Mixon has received a misdemeanor plea deal that would include community service and behavior counseling for his involvement in the incident on Campus Corner. Stay tuned...

Joe Mixon trending:

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Another stinking 11:00. Sad to say but we aren't even getting together with friends to watch tomorrow's game...meh

Another stinking 11:00. Sad to say but we aren't even getting together with friends to watch tomorrow's game...meh

I think this is going to be one of Stoops' toughest coaching jobs - keeping this team together and focused in spite of losing essentially all the pre-season goals.

Fans are really in the dumper on all this, too. I think each host on the Animal has made a comment that no one, no one, has been interested in talking OU-ISU.

Can't help but think about all those folks who bought/sold tickets to Baylor, OSU, etc at a serious premium are either treasuring their profit or lamenting their loss. Secondary ticket market for OU the balance of the season has almost certainly all-but collapsed.

At the risk of spiraling a bit off-topic (but not entirely), that secondary ticket market this year may foretell a very interesting season ticket market next year. A lot of folks get season tickets just to have a shot at Texas tickets, then sell the rest, or hang on to the plum games and get what they can for the rest. But if some of the messages I've seen this season are any indication, a lot of folks may be thinking twice about tickets next year if they have any concern they may not be able recoup what is quickly becoming a non-trivial investment....

I suspect there are enough folks waiting in the season ticket holder que that they will not mind one little bit if some folk ahead of them decide to step aside.

Bob Stoops to Michigan?

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/why-michigan-should-call-bob-stoops-232902254.html

This is just speculation, of course.

Bob Stoops to Michigan?

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/why-michigan-should-call-bob-stoops-232902254.html

This is just speculation, of course.

The media has speculated on Stoops going to other places for years. The question is why would the thought be there that the U of Michigan job would be a job he would want? Bigger school and bigger stadium but I don't see it being a better job.

The media has speculated on Stoops going to other places for years. The question is why would the thought be there that the U of Michigan job would be a job he would want? Bigger school and bigger stadium but I don't see it being a better job.

At this point I would expect retirement before moving, since we are either very near or already past the time he talked about retiring. Which was the age his father had a heart attack on the sideline coaching a game.

This is from early in the season.

Would Oklahoma coach Bob Stoops leave Norman after 2014? | Dallas Morning News (http://collegesportsblog.dallasnews.com/2014/09/would-oklahoma-coach-bob-stoops-leave-norman-after-2014.html/)

It brings up that he has been mentioned previously for jobs at Ohio State and the Cleveland Browns in his home state. He didn't jump on that and Ohio State is certainly an equal to Michigan in job appeal.

This is from early in the season.

Would Oklahoma coach Bob Stoops leave Norman after 2014? | Dallas Morning News (http://collegesportsblog.dallasnews.com/2014/09/would-oklahoma-coach-bob-stoops-leave-norman-after-2014.html/)

It brings up that he has been mentioned previously for jobs at Ohio State and the Cleveland Browns in his home state. He didn't jump on that and Ohio State is certainly an equal to Michigan in job appeal.
I'm sure the Old Ball Coach has filled him in on why coaching in the NFL sucks compared to college.

One could argue that Jim Harbaugh would be a better fit for that program. Although the article references him staying in the NFL for the near future but who knows.

The only reason that article gives as a reason Stoops would leave is for a change of scenery and new challenge.

You could say that about every other coaching opening over the last 10 years, and Stoops hasn't been persuaded yet; and some of those were better jobs than Michigan.

Stoops is king of the castle. He's not going anywhere unless fired

Stoops is king of the castle. He's not going anywhere unless fired

Good point!

Before retirement he will probably request that Mike Stoops be hired as head coach with another one of the Stoops' boys brought on board.

Who knows, the Dallas Cowboys may make him an offer...

Good point!

Before retirement he will probably request that Mike Stoops be hired as head coach with another one of the Stoops' boys brought on board.

Who knows, the Dallas Cowboys may make him an offer...

Hopefully athletic directors have learned by now that coaches-in-waiting are a very bad idea. Same with allowing the outgoing coach to pick his successor. That simply does not fly in the era of big-money football.

To think...OU was trumpeted being a playoff team this year. Sigh.

To think...OU was trumpeted being a playoff team this year. Sigh.

OU was overrated from the beginning. The same story every year since 2008. TCU, KState and Baylor have much better talent and coaching which is crazy considering OU's tradition and high paid coaching staff. Changes are needed but probably won't happen unless Stoops does take a job elsewhere. The Sooners were flat out embarrassed.

OU was overrated from the beginning. The same story every year since 2008. TCU, KState and Baylor have much better talent and coaching which is crazy considering OU's tradition and high paid coaching staff. Changes are needed but probably won't happen unless Stoops does take a job elsewhere. The Sooners were flat out embarrassed.

Disagree!

Baylor was underrated because of their soft non-conference schedule. Tell me something; how did Baylor lose to West Virginia?

This was a tough loss...Devastating when you fall short by just 5 points...."What's that?"...."5 touchdowns?"

Oh my

Disagree!

Baylor was underrated because of their soft non-conference schedule. Tell me something; how did Baylor lose to West Virginia?

How did OSU lose to Iowa St in 2011?

Baylor's program > OU right now. 3 wins in 4 years.

Baylor's program > OU right now. 3 wins in 4 years.

Who would've ever imagined that 5 years ago? Before 2011 Baylor had never beaten OU, ever. Their stadium was one of the worst in the Big 12, now it's one of the nicest. The decline of Texas is partly to blame, which has also benefitted TCU. But Baylor beating OU 3 of the last 4, including two blow outs in a row and one of those in Norman? Unreal.

I was at the game and fans are very upset. I hope Stoops can right the ship, he certainly has a tall order ahead of him. I don't know what should be done but obviously what they're doing isn't working.

The right hire makes all the difference, Briles was a very well respected high school head coach in Texas before he went to Tech as an assistant. Made Houston respectable and competitive in C-USA before heading to Baylor. The school has also committed a lot of resources to all sports and built an entire department up which they had to do after hitting rock bottom after the Steele era in football and the basketball murder scandal.

OU is a top 5 program of all time. Why Bob hires family, friends and former players when OU has the name and resources to hire just about any assistant coach out there is mind boggling. When Bob first got hired he did his homework and brought in some of the best young football minds out there and in just a few years we had a National Championship. He's gotten lazy in his hiring's IMO.

Despite the nepotism, most were very happy to have Mike Stoops come back.

Might be time to go find someone outside the program to run the defense, because given the talent level that area seems to be by far the most disappointing aspect of the team.

Bob himself said the defense this year would be "light years" better than last year. If anything, they are worse.

I wonder if Bob is just hoping Mike and Josh get hired away so he doesn't have to worry about firing them.

We've had 'Great Expectations' for college football since the return of Mike Stoops and the exodus of Brent Venables.

Bob Stoops' predictions have been off target the last few years. Oh yes, that win over Alabama put some spark back into the Sooner Nation. It didn't take long for the air to seep from the Sooner balloon; it has suddenly brought us all back down to earth.

The coaching security for Bob and Mike Stoops will continue to be in question if 2015-16 looks anything like this season. Texas is in a similar situation; however, they will give the new coach about as much time to turn the program around as OU gave John Blake.

The Sooners got a win today in spite of themselves and this year that's not a bad thing. Nothing is a given this year but they should win the last two at home against KU and OSU to end the regular season on a positive note.

Oklahoma football: The Sooners found out Cody Thomas can play | NewsOK.com (http://m.newsok.com/tramel-the-sooners-found-out-cody-thomas-can-play/article/5367373)

God bless those students:

http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/texassux.jpg

This was a tough loss...Devastating when you fall short by just 5 points...."What's that?"...."5 touchdowns?"

Oh my

As a Husker fan I feel your pain, and embarrassment.

I'm surprised that nobody else has mentioned this amazing performance yet. Even if OU was playing against air this is absolutely astounding.

OU football: Sooners' Samaje Perine runs for record 427 yards in OU's 44-7 win over Kansas | NewsOK.com (http://m.newsok.com/427-perine-breaks-ncaa-record-in-sooners-romp/article/5369458)


On the way back home from Oklahoma’s win at Texas Tech last weekend, Sooner running backs coach Cale Gundy noticed that Wisconsin’s Melvin Gordon had broken the 15-year, NCAA single-game rushing record with a 408-yard performance.
“That will probably never be broken again,” Gundy said that day.

Oh how wrong he was.

Only seven days after Gordon’s remarkable performance, Oklahoma true freshman Samaje Perine topped it, rushing for 427 yards and five touchdowns on 34 carries in the Sooners’ 44-7 rout of Kansas on Owen Field.

Perine shattered Greg Pruitt’s single-game OU rushing record of 294 yards — which stood for 43 years — and also became the first-ever Football Bowl Subdivision player to rush for 200 yards in both halves of a game.

There had to be a special set of circumstances for something like this to happen and we certainly won't expect it every week. It was just something spectacular to watch.

Here are more fun comments.

http://m.newsok.com/ou-football-sooners-offensive-line-shares-in-samaje-perines-record-setting-day/article/5369469/?page=2


After his last two big games, Perine has bought the offensive line pizza.

The menu could be different after they helped Perine move into the NCAA record book.

“Heck, I’ll buy ’em whatever they want,” Perine said. “My parents are in town, so they can help.”


A statistic that will get lost in this is that the defense limited KU to 103 total yards. That is impressive even if KU stinks.

The spelling for stupid has been changed - Stoopid.

The spelling for stupid has been changed - Stoopid.

I can understand his thinking, burning a little more time off, 5 more yards etc but you just can't take that chance with a home run hitter waiting on the ball

Maybe in the pros with a professional punter but not in college

This is a fun OU Christmas card.

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Getting spanked by Clemson

This game:

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On the bright side, I do have a thing for tigers, so I suppose I can't be completely disappointed.

Maybe they should have practiced more instead of posing for cutesy Christmas cards.

Lots of NFL head coach openings. Someone should open a Monster.com account in Stoop's name and apply.

Touchdown! With a spirited effort against the backup defense, the Sooners crack the scoreboard! Then the extra point was blocked.

Thankfully the 2014 season is done. Now to get some new coordinators and better players.