What if Mixon made a gay slur about the guy she was with, then she approached Mixon, called him the 'N' word and then she threw a punch. Then Mixon punches her back and leaves.

Looks like this 'what if' was fairly close to what transpired.....

Misdemeanor for Mixon. 1 or 2 game suspension, and then he should be good to go.

We'll see, but I think it'll be 4 games to an entire season. It doesn't simply matter what the charges are. There's still a video that's going to come out of Mixon knocking a woman out cold. Terrible situation.

My vote is to Redshirt him

My vote is to Redshirt him

I could see him transferring if that's the case.

I could see him transferring if that's the case.

That's a choice that could be an option for him if OU decides to sit him or drop him either one. Probably more than one institution out there which will say come on down if the opportunity should arise.

I could see him transferring if that's the case.

Then So be it. He was coerced into what he did which is why i don't favor dismissal. But he had other, less punative actions he could have chosen.

Red shirting can not be imposed, it must be done with the permission of the athlete.

6 games would be about right. Dusty got a whole season but that was after more than one incident.

Red shirting can not be imposed, it must be done with the permission of the athlete.

Are you sure? If a coach doesn't play a player then they've pretty much redshirted. I've never heard of a student-athlete rejecting a redshirt. Maybe it's just done behind closed doors, but I would think there would have been some case where a student would have mentioned that they rejected a redshirt.

Heck, redshirt used to be a REQUIREMENT for EVERY player. Freshmen never saw the field, ever. These days you might have to worry about a player leaving if he didn't get played as a freshman, but no way can he MAKE the coach play him. Now, burning a redshirt late in the season, a la Quentin Griffin? That is something a coach generally needs to check out with a player, though I doubt there is a rule forcing him to do so.

Are you sure? If a coach doesn't play a player then they've pretty much redshirted. I've never heard of a student-athlete rejecting a redshirt. Maybe it's just done behind closed doors, but I would think there would have been some case where a student would have mentioned that they rejected a redshirt.

My former boss's son broke his wrist prior to his freshman season at Kansas State but during summer workouts. He took a grey or gray shirt. Not sure the advantage of that but that's what happened. I had never heard of a grey shirt before.

Maybe the same as a medical redshirt?

Are you sure? If a coach doesn't play a player then they've pretty much redshirted. I've never heard of a student-athlete rejecting a redshirt. Maybe it's just done behind closed doors, but I would think there would have been some case where a student would have mentioned that they rejected a redshirt.

I have heard it in the past, but bottom line there would be no reason to reject an additional year of school if you did not play your first year.

Misdemeanor for Mixon. 1 or 2 game suspension, and then he should be good to go.

Has he been suited up for a single practice since that night? Seems like saying he should be good to go by mid-september may presume a tad much, even if his present bar to participate doesn't continue for much longer.

Has he been suited up for a single practice since that night? Seems like saying he should be good to go by mid-september may presume a tad much, even if his present bar to participate doesn't continue for much longer.

He has not. By saying that "he should be good to go" would mean, that he is cleared to participate. I personally feel like a 4-5 game suspension is warranted. At that time, he will have been participating in team activities/practices for about 4-6 weeks. As far as "being ready" Mixon is another one of those "once every decade" talents, and much like Adrian Peterson.....is already talented enough from a physical aspect to not only "contribute" but be a difference maker, the very second he touches the field.

But the chance of him "redshirting" this entire season, much like Ryan Broyles did his freshman year (After illegally using gas cards) seems like a strong possibility.

redshirting him doesn't seem a horrid idea, though I imagine some folks would be birthing kittens right and left over the notion.

Well, there you go..."Suspended" for the entire 2014 season. Lets hope he sticks around, and has the chance to show everyone that this mistake was an isolated incident, and that he can get an education, contribute to the student body as well as the football team.

Joe Mixon has been suspended from the OU team for the entire season and cannot even participate in team activities. Extremely strong statement about OU's stance concerning violence against women by OU as similar infractions at other schools have resulted in zero to two game suspensions. I am sure Mixon will transfer soon.

Joe Mixon has been suspended from the OU team for the entire season and cannot even participate in team activities. Extremely strong statement about OU's stance concerning violence against women by OU as similar infractions at other schools have resulted in zero to two game suspensions. I am sure Mixon will transfer soon.

What, is this official? If so, what a blow!

Just got a tweet from KOCO

Joe Mixon has been suspended from the OU team for the entire season and cannot even participate in team activities. Extremely strong statement about OU's stance concerning violence against women by OU as similar infractions at other schools have resulted in zero to two game suspensions. I am sure Mixon will transfer soon.

He can transfer, and file under the same NCAA "Run off" rule that DGB is using to be eligible to play right away. I honestly think, that if DGB, and Frank Shannon weren't currently on campus....that Mixon would have received a multiple game suspension. But to have 3 active/current players on your roster that are either currently being accused of assault, or have been kicked off of other teams because of assault..its somewhat difficult to not try and set an example with this one. It would be a huge PR nightmare for OU. I wish I could say, that they made the right decision. but its not mine decision to make...as I can only have an opinion.

He can transfer, and file under the same NCAA "Run off" rule that DGB is using to be eligible to play right away.

I'm not sure, but I don't think that rule would apply. First, he was charged with a crime. Second, he was suspended for a year, not permanently kicked off the team.

I'm not sure, but I don't think that rule would apply. First, he was charged with a crime. Second, he was suspended for a year, not permanently kicked off the team.

You are correct in that he has been charged with a crime......whereas DGB was not. I am not certain how the verbage reads under the rule. But, I do know that not only is this a suspension...but, his scholarship has been removed, and he is not allowed to participate in any team activities of any kind. He cannot associate with the athletic department at all. I just somewhat worry about the kid, that was already not "enjoying" his time here in Oklahoma, and was already having issues adjusting to the cultural differences. If he cannot participate in any teams functions, and no longer has a scholarship....I would just assume that he is going to wonder off. Find a Jr. College or something to work out at...and enroll somewhere else.

Example to others...


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Sounds as though Mixon's situation is being used to make a harsh statement about violence against women on the OU Campus? Wish her a speedy recovery and Joe Mixon a better football career.

Mixon was definitely in the wrong for what he did to retaliate. She shouldn't have put her hands on him for comments directed at someone else. Whoever the comment was directed toward, did the right thing to ignore Mixon.

You would think that since Mixon came from California that he wouldn't have been making those kind of statements.

As many times as I've been to California, it is much more common place to witness various lifestyles. Let's hope Mixon learns a valuable lesson; know what thoughts to keep to yourself without expressing your ignorance. Time for Joe Mixon to come down off his high horse and become a mature adult.


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You are correct in that he has been charged with a crime......whereas DGB was not. I am not certain how the verbage reads under the rule. But, I do know that not only is this a suspension...but, his scholarship has been removed, and he is not allowed to participate in any team activities of any kind. He cannot associate with the athletic department at all. I just somewhat worry about the kid, that was already not "enjoying" his time here in Oklahoma, and was already having issues adjusting to the cultural differences. If he cannot participate in any teams functions, and no longer has a scholarship....I would just assume that he is going to wonder off. Find a Jr. College or something to work out at...and enroll somewhere else.

Your bolded part is what stood out to me immediately as I read the story. The part where he can stay at OU and take classes but then that he is also eligible for financial aid - which of course means no more scholarship. He's probably good as gone now.

Your bolded part is what stood out to me immediately as I read the story. The part where he can stay at OU and take classes but then that he is also eligible for financial aid - which of course means no more scholarship. He's probably good as gone now.

The channel 4 sports just said he can be put on a student scholarship and attend class. I'm not sure if he leaves or not....time will tell I guess.

If he never attended a class at OU, does he have to sit a year if he transfers to a D1? Have there been any reports that he has attended a class yet?

If he never attended a class at OU, does he have to sit a year if he transfers to a D1? Have there been any reports that he has attended a class yet?

KWTV said he did attend class on Monday.

If he never attended a class at OU, does he have to sit a year if he transfers to a D1? Have there been any reports that he has attended a class yet?

I think so. He's signed a Letter of Intent and enrolled at OU. I don't think he could just transfer tomorrow and play somewhere else.

Not shocked by this at all.

NCAA denies Oklahoma's waiver for Dorial Green-Beckham - CBSSports.com (http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/eye-on-college-football/24674157/ncaa-denies-oklahomas-waiver-for-dorial-green-beckham)

Stoops just looks so desperate these days. All his plans of having these these outcasts and trouble makers are crashing right in front of him. They are falling like dominoes.

Stoops just looks so desperate these days. All his plans of having these these outcasts and trouble makers are crashing right in front of him. They are falling like dominoes.

Says an obvious Stoops or OU hater. LOL.

It certainly looks like Mixon will be sticking around, however.

Joe Mixon Staying at Oklahoma | KFOR.com (http://kfor.com/2014/08/22/joe-mixon-staying-at-oklahoma/)

Stoops just looks so desperate these days. All his plans of having these these outcasts and trouble makers are crashing right in front of him. They are falling like dominoes.

Huh? Stoops and OU gave one player (DGB) a second chance that wasn't granted by the NCAA and then punished two players on the team pretty harshly compared to what other programs have done in similar situations (which I think was the right thing to do). How does Stoops look desperate? Desperate coaches usually don't lead the third ranked team in the nation and the most consistently successful program of the century.

Stoops tried everything trick in the book to get all 3 of these guys eligible to play this season. Some of the higher ups {Boren} didn't share that view. My complaint is not with OU {the school} but rather Stoops win at all costs mentality.

BTW, I seriously doubt that DGB will ever play a down for OU. He will be going to the draft next year and has more talent than any other WR in college IMO. He will be a 1st rounder if he's not in the news for something else this year.

Stoops tried everything trick in the book to get all 3 of these guys eligible to play this season. Some of the higher ups {Boren} didn't share that view. My complaint is not with OU {the school} but rather Stoops win at all costs mentality.

BTW, I seriously doubt that DGB will ever play a down for OU. He will be going to the draft next year and has more talent than any other WR in college IMO. He will be a 1st rounder if he's not in the news for something else this year.

Stoops couldn't produce that rabbit from the magic hat...

Could it be (?): NCAA has not forgotten the Oklahoma-Georgia sponsored lawsuit that gave the universities & colleges their rights to their own TV revenues? No, most of those associates of that era are not with the NCAA anymore.

NCAA doctored up their response to justify their decision:


Players who run-off but are in good academic standing can gain immediate eligibility, but the NCAA didn’t buy the argument that, because he wasn’t charged in the April incident, he qualified for the special exemption.

Glad the University of Oklahoma took the high road in respect to the NCAA's decision to deny Dorial Green-Beckham immediate eligibility; let's see if there is some consistency with which the NCAA handles these appeals?

NCAA denies Oklahoma?s appeal seeking immediate eligibility for Dorial Green-Beckham | The Kansas City Star (http://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/sec/university-of-missouri/article1279437.html)


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Coach GP at Mizzou didn't want to lose DGB but he made the tough decision to kick him off the team because it was the right thing to do. DGB should have went ahead and gone to Tenn St and played this season and then enter the draft. Stoops begged him to come to OU because he thought he had found a loophole to get him eligible. All this did was hurt DGB because he was ready to head to Tenn St. and get on with it. So Stoops did nothing but hurt the guy and make OU look like a bunch of slimeballs in the process.

Stoops tried everything trick in the book to get all 3 of these guys eligible to play this season. Some of the higher ups {Boren} didn't share that view. My complaint is not with OU {the school} but rather Stoops win at all costs mentality.

BTW, I seriously doubt that DGB will ever play a down for OU. He will be going to the draft next year and has more talent than any other WR in college IMO. He will be a 1st rounder if he's not in the news for something else this year.

Sorry, but the "Stoops win at all costs" comment just doesn't reconcile with reality. You can't assign that label to a coach who kicked the starting quarterback off the team not even a month before the season started when it was found out the guy was taking impermissible benefits on the side (Remember Bomar/2006?)

I realize its fashionable to bash any football coach who has won more than he's lost as some secretly inveterate scumbag who'll recruit whatever slime he can to win , but trying to pin this on Stoops isn't going to stick. Switzer? Back in the day, sure. Stoops took a shot at DGB, it didn't work, and the program still plans to play La Tech next week last I heard...

Stoops tried everything trick in the book to get all 3 of these guys eligible to play this season. Some of the higher ups {Boren} didn't share that view.

Absurd. Name one verifiable fact that he took any action in these cases other than adapt to whatever process played out.

Stoops tried everything trick in the book to get all 3 of these guys eligible to play this season. Some of the higher ups {Boren} didn't share that view. My complaint is not with OU {the school} but rather Stoops win at all costs mentality.

You can't just make up your own facts. The only player you could even claim Stoops fought to get eligible (no doubt with Boren's support) was DGB and the NCAA decided he was ineligible.

Stoops and Boren jointly supported the harsh penalty for Shannon and decided on the penalty for Mixon. There's no evidence Stoops did anything to try to get either player eligible, much less use "tricks" to win-at-all-costs. You could make a case that Stoops has one of the best track records at NOT winning-at-all-costs and this off season certainly supports his track record that no player is above the program (see Bomar, Quinn, Broyles, Reynolds, Metoyer, Shannon, Mixon and on and on).

On the other hand, these are sensitive issues. Coaches shouldn't just kick these 18-22 year olds to the curb when they mess up. Stoops has a solid track record of giving guys second chances with no room for error who then turned their lives around to be productive citizens (see Dvoracek, McGruder, Broyles, Reynolds).

There are plenty of coaches/programs who have let players with serious violence against men & women (ex: LSU) or rapists (see OSU, Missouri) who have a far more sordid history if you want to make the win-at-all-costs claim. I am certainly not saying Stoops or OU are without mistakes, but your claim isn't supported by the record.

Stoops just looks so desperate these days. All his plans of having these these outcasts and trouble makers are crashing right in front of him. They are falling like dominoes.

I guess he should have waited til the player is actually found guilty even though he had already been charged before he got to school, ala Gundy with Chris Collins......

Guys...don't feed the troll.

OU game is on pay per view only? lame

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Ok, that was funny.

Wait till the national media gets hold of Mixon tape punching the girl. Not gonna be a pretty site and along with the others Shannon/DGB it's going to get real ugly for OU. Can't believe they didn't cut Mixon and DGB lose.

Wait till the national media gets hold of Mixon tape punching the girl. Not gonna be a pretty site and along with the others Shannon/DGB it's going to get real ugly for OU. Can't believe they didn't cut Mixon and DGB lose.



So What?

Would like to hear the audio portion along with the video that was shown. It would certainly shed more light as to what happened.

I know that some of you wanted Mixon suspended from the team and his scholarship yanked. Understandably, society shouldn't tolerate this kind of behavior. He still has his day in court which could lead to more punishment for a young man who snapped. President Boren & OU have been pretty consistent when it comes to dealing with player matters. Each case should be weighed individually and on its own merits.

The national media goes after anything that is current. What Mixon did was wrong. Mixon has been given a chance to redeem himself.

The young man has been punished by the university; he still has his day in court. Until we hear from the courts; let's move on...


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OU game is on pay per view only? lame
They almost always have one PPV game a season to maintain their third tier rights.

Wait till the national media gets hold of Mixon tape punching the girl. Not gonna be a pretty site and along with the others Shannon/DGB it's going to get real ugly for OU. Can't believe they didn't cut Mixon and DGB lose.

Yawn, not surprised that you would say that.

Hey, anyone have a pair of OU-Tenn tix they'd sell for face? Prices right now are *ridiculous*. Some people seem to think Tenn is some sort of Alabama coming into Norman - this is a long-term second-tier SEC program that struggled to beat, what was it, Central Arkansas State (?) last week?

Prices have to get sane here eventually. They're higher now than they were for ND a couple of years back, and that was a MUCH bigger game

Hey, anyone have a pair of OU-Tenn tix they'd sell for face? Prices right now are *ridiculous*. Some people seem to think Tenn is some sort of Alabama coming into Norman - this is a long-term second-tier SEC program that struggled to beat, what was it, Central Arkansas State (?) last week?

Prices have to get sane here eventually. They're higher now than they were for ND a couple of years back, and that was a MUCH bigger game

What kind of price were you looking to secure tickets for? I agree that this is not a BIG game in regards to Championship implications, or a Top 25 matchup. Currently, Tennessee is a midlevel at best SEC team. But, they are still a blueblood of College football, so this ticket will demand a somewhat higher ticket price than most other non conference opponents. And FYI...you used an example of this game vs. Notre Dame game. The Tennessee ticket is $10 more face value than the Notre Dame was in 2012...so, that's $20 more/pair. You should be able to secure a pair down on campus corner before the game, no doubt. But if you want to ensure you have tickets in hand, before heading to Norman...you will probably be paying a premium.

It's the confluence of Tennessee fans, who travel very well, being 2-0 and desperate for success after a few years in the wilderness AND Oklahoma fans thinking the Sooners are worldbeaters this year. Prices have actually gone down a little in the past week. I sold an extra pair for $175/per on StubHub on Friday and it looks like the going price for the same seats now would be about $10 cheaper now. Honestly, just go down to the game Saturday and you'll still probably be able to buy for face or below pretty easily come game time.

Being in Norman last weekend there is a high level of excitement for this game. And officials have said that Tennessee is bringing a mass of people (whom I have heard are some of the most legit fans in the SEC). More than Notre Dame brought as well. I sucked it up and bought tickets in section 101, 20 rows up, for $140 a piece on stubhub. Granted they have been down but its still a nationally known team from the SEC with history. Sounds like they might wear alternates as well.

I found it strange that Tennessee isn't bringing their band though. And Stoops said OU is not wearing the alternates, but I wouldn't be surprised if, well, he wanted to make them a surprise.

$140, huh? I'm willing to $50 a piece. I think I'll get it... we'll see. I hardly ever pay over $30 for a ticket on game day.

I found it strange that Tennessee isn't bringing their band though. And Stoops said OU is not wearing the alternates, but I wouldn't be surprised if, well, he wanted to make them a surprise.

$140, huh? I'm willing to $50 a piece. I think I'll get it... we'll see. I hardly ever pay over $30 for a ticket on game day.

I've been going to home games and just picking up tickets outside the stadium that way for thirty years, and I've experienced precisely the same thing. The early-week prices for this particular game have just been a little (well, a lot) surprising, that's all. Prices weren't quite so nuts like this even for the Texas Tech 2008 game, and I got in there for about half of face value. Heck, I"m seeing people trying to sell *endzone* seats for $350/$400 for a pair, and that's just goofy.

I'll be going down there Sat afternoon and just see what happens. I guess things could change, but I've got a lot of history on my side telling me I'll be able to snag a pair. We'll see :)

You'll get in. You might have to pay face or close to, but seriously doubt it will be over. All of the Tennessee fans will already have tickets in hand, and OU fans won't be down there to pay over face.

I found it strange that Tennessee isn't bringing their band though. And Stoops said OU is not wearing the alternates, but I wouldn't be surprised if, well, he wanted to make them a surprise.

$140, huh? I'm willing to $50 a piece. I think I'll get it... we'll see. I hardly ever pay over $30 for a ticket on game day.

Sounds like there is a manufacturing problem with the alternates. Think they were going to use them, but realized at the last minute the manufacturer couldn't provide them in time.

It's a special game - no question about it. It's about the history of the two programs. The last time OU played Tennessee was in that great '68 Sugar Bowl that the Sooners won 26-24. Then, consider the two teams only squared off once before that - in 1939! If one considers history and the glory days of college football, this is a great match-up and one that brings back many a fall memory, not just about the Sooners and the Vols, but about college football period.

WOOHOO - Tickets obtained today, below face, right where I like to sit.

Think prices are starting to fall a bit on the secondary market...think some folks may regret shelling out $350+ for a pair of endzones before all is said and done.

Well, I can tell you that regardless of the outcome I won't regret SELLING two end zone tix for $350...

A very funny video by a Knoxville football columnist.

OU football: Knoxville columnist gives hilarious reasons why Tennessee can beat OU (VIDEO) | NewsOK.com (http://m.newsok.com/ou-football-knoxville-columnist-gives-hilarious-reasons-why-tennessee-can-beat-ou-video/article/5340700)