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dankrutka
07-29-2014, 08:15 PM
Brandon Everidge says "hi".

Always nice to piss on a dead guy's grave. Classy.

Tons of college kids get in trouble for drugs or alcohol. It's not a measure of intelligence.

ljbab728
07-29-2014, 09:19 PM
Why speculate like this when a fuller picture of the incident will be available in a few days.

Very true. The incident is supposed to have been caught on a security cam and that certainly hasn't been released yet and no information has come out about what is seen on the video.

Buffalo Bill
07-29-2014, 09:45 PM
Tons of college kids get in trouble for drugs or alcohol. It's not a measure of intelligence.

My point, exactly.

hoya
07-29-2014, 10:43 PM
We don't know enough to be able to reach any conclusions right now. The versions of events that I've heard have ranged from "big mean black dude punches 100% innocent white girl without provocation while she is looking the other way, breaking 4 bones" to "crazy bitch attacks innocent football player like she's on bath salts, is gently pushed away, drunkenly falls on table and gets bloody nose".

Likely the truth is somewhere in between. Given that Mixon met with police after they had already reviewed the video and spoken with other witnesses, and he was not arrested and has yet to be charged, I have cautious optimism for him. I still don't know what happened, but the idea that he defended himself with what is at least arguably reasonable force is looking like a distinct possibility.

Now I don't want a jerk who beats the hell out of women on the OU football team. But sometimes Sheldon is right:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrPpw8A_-xY

zookeeper
07-29-2014, 10:57 PM
This thread has now blamed (1) the victim by going as far as to speculate that she "100% DESERVED to get knocked the F out" and then (2) sweepingly attributed this specific incident to the lack of respect for females by black males (with a general citation of support from "leaders of the African-American community")... all without knowing all the facts of the situation. Why speculate like this when a fuller picture of the incident will be available in a few days.

Violence against women is a serious problem in our society that needs to be addressed. However, the discussion here is not very helpful. Can we move the rampant speculation and oversimplification to some political thread or something?

Dan, With all due respect, if I can't write what I wrote in this thread, discussing this very issue, where can I write it? The young woman says, and the police report seems to confirm, she had broken bones in her face. She said it was Joe Mixon. Maybe he didn't do it. I even said in my post, "No, not all blacks, maybe not even Mixon, but it is a serious problem in the black community." It is. It is widely discussed.

May I quote Charlie Strong, coach of the Longhorns:

"They break a core value, they're telling me they don't want to be a part of the program."

What are those core values?

1. Honesty
2. Treating women with respect
3. No drugs
4. No stealing
5. No guns

Strong has said it's a problem in the black community. Al Sharpton (!) has said the same. The root is the fatherless homes - 70% among blacks. These are real issues, real problems, whether we like to discuss them or not. They are not stereotypical, they are all too typical. It is, I would argue, the elephant in the room in many college football programs today. Some are willing to talk about it and acknowledge it, others want to pretend it's not happening and act outraged that someone dare bring it up.

OKCRT
07-29-2014, 10:58 PM
This one is so easy. Kick him off the team. There's no excuse for what he did. I don't care what she said to him. Words and fists are 2 different things. If Stoops keeps this kid he loses all credibility in the real world.

It seems to me that the BIGX11 conference as a whole is trying the winning at all costs tactics to try and stay up with the other power conferences. Take a look at what kind of crap has been going on within this conference. Boren needs to step in here and overide Stoops because if Stoops can find any way/loophole to keep this kid he will. Look at what they are trying to do with DGB. Big Game boob is trying to win at all costs. He has no morals. I hope he goes down in flames because he is digging his own grave.

It's pitiful that some people are trying to make the girl into some kind of criminal that deserved to get her face broken and possibly scarred for life. It makes me sick that the University has not come out against this Mixon kid and kicked him out of school. Does anyone have any morals? What is this world coming to.

ljbab728
07-29-2014, 11:34 PM
Again, people are making judgements without having all of the facts. That's what the world is coming to.

ljbab728
07-30-2014, 12:06 AM
Oklahoma football: Surveillance video in Joe Mixon investigation likely won't be released soon | News OK (http://newsok.com/oklahoma-football-surveillance-video-in-joe-mixon-investigation-likely-wont-be-released-soon/article/5102417)


Police have said they are not prepared to release the tape due to its “evidentiary value” as the investigation into the incident continues.

Barring a leak of the tape, it likely wouldn’t be viewed by the public until a preliminary hearing or a trial if there are eventually charges filed in the case.

It could also be released if Cleveland County District Attorney Greg Mashburn declines to file charges in the case.

hoya
07-30-2014, 12:07 AM
This one is so easy. Kick him off the team. There's no excuse for what he did. I don't care what she said to him. Words and fists are 2 different things. If Stoops keeps this kid he loses all credibility in the real world.

It seems to me that the BIGX11 conference as a whole is trying the winning at all costs tactics to try and stay up with the other power conferences. Take a look at what kind of crap has been going on within this conference. Boren needs to step in here and overide Stoops because if Stoops can find any way/loophole to keep this kid he will. Look at what they are trying to do with DGB. Big Game boob is trying to win at all costs. He has no morals. I hope he goes down in flames because he is digging his own grave.

It's pitiful that some people are trying to make the girl into some kind of criminal that deserved to get her face broken and possibly scarred for life. It makes me sick that the University has not come out against this Mixon kid and kicked him out of school. Does anyone have any morals? What is this world coming to.

How about we wait until there's some evidence before we make any decision? Once upon a time you'd have been a member of a lynch mob with this attitude.

dankrutka
07-30-2014, 02:54 AM
Dan, With all due respect, if I can't write what I wrote in this thread, discussing this very issue, where can I write it? The young woman says, and the police report seems to confirm, she had broken bones in her face. She said it was Joe Mixon. Maybe he didn't do it. I even said in my post, "No, not all blacks, maybe not even Mixon, but it is a serious problem in the black community." It is. It is widely discussed.

May I quote Charlie Strong, coach of the Longhorns:

"They break a core value, they're telling me they don't want to be a part of the program."

What are those core values?

1. Honesty
2. Treating women with respect
3. No drugs
4. No stealing
5. No guns

Strong has said it's a problem in the black community. Al Sharpton (!) has said the same. The root is the fatherless homes - 70% among blacks. These are real issues, real problems, whether we like to discuss them or not. They are not stereotypical, they are all too typical. It is, I would argue, the elephant in the room in many college football programs today. Some are willing to talk about it and acknowledge it, others want to pretend it's not happening and act outraged that someone dare bring it up.

A couple questions. First, do you have links to Strong's discussion of problems within the black community? I haven't read his comments. Also, are Strong's core values only intended for black players on his team? Or are his core rules also intended for the white players on the team? Secondly, what exactly do you think about Mixon's black experience contributed to the alleged incident? Could you be more specific as to why you believe Joe's race is the primary concern and/or explanation for this incident? I'm honestly asking.

I am not claiming that there are not issues in the black community or that they should not be discussed (although I'm not sure how qualified I am to assess these issues in any accurate way). I think using this incident concerning a single 18 year old as a jumping off point for that discussion is problematic. Is violence against women a problem particular to black males? Is race the primary factor or is a factor like poverty a better indicator? This is a pretty big discussion and I guess I don't think the OU football thread seems the best place to really delve into such a complex sociological issue. Maybe we could examine these questions in a different thread because I suspect we'll get pretty far off topic...

warreng88
07-30-2014, 09:29 AM
This one is so easy. Kick him off the team. There's no excuse for what he did. I don't care what she said to him. Words and fists are 2 different things. If Stoops keeps this kid he loses all credibility in the real world.

It seems to me that the BIGX11 conference as a whole is trying the winning at all costs tactics to try and stay up with the other power conferences. Take a look at what kind of crap has been going on within this conference. Boren needs to step in here and overide Stoops because if Stoops can find any way/loophole to keep this kid he will. Look at what they are trying to do with DGB. Big Game boob is trying to win at all costs. He has no morals. I hope he goes down in flames because he is digging his own grave.

It's pitiful that some people are trying to make the girl into some kind of criminal that deserved to get her face broken and possibly scarred for life. It makes me sick that the University has not come out against this Mixon kid and kicked him out of school. Does anyone have any morals? What is this world coming to.

What if the girl was yelling at him, spitting on him and hitting him and he simply pushes her away from him, she was so drunk that she fell and hit her face and broke the bones. Then does he deserve to get kicked off the team? I agree with the others: wait until all the facts are presented.

hoya
07-30-2014, 10:32 AM
What if she's lying about the broken bones?

Bellaboo
07-30-2014, 11:59 AM
What if she's lying about the broken bones?

I read somewhere that she had a 4 hour surgery for fracture repair yesterday. The picture I saw of her on the news did not show any cuts to her face though. Just brusing on her right cheek.

kevinpate
07-30-2014, 01:33 PM
In the FWIW category, and writing as a frequent wearer of many different oh so awesome looking casts in various locations on my body throughout my younger days, I promise you that it is not at all necessary to have cuts accompany one's broken bones. Indeed, it's very, very rare in simple fractures.

Just the facts
07-30-2014, 01:57 PM
No person (woman or man) deserves to have his/her face broken.

I've taught my daughter to never put herself in a man's place. My boys, I've taught them to walk away--as I was taught. Society should never condone the right for anyone to strike another. Women should never feel that they have a right to strike a man; you will never know the outcome because there are so many concerns (mental: emotionally disturbed) that people have today.

I was brought up with the belief that you don't hit a woman no matter what. 'Do unto others as you would have them do unto you...' Women should never feel that they have an entitlement to strike a male or another female without consequences.

You can only keep turning the other cheek before someone catches you off guard and you react in an undisciplined manner...


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Good thing you don't work for ESPN or you would be taking an unpaid vacation right about now. Protecting yourself by avoiding trouble is now "blaming the victim".

kevinpate
07-30-2014, 02:04 PM
There was an altercation in a Norman establishment. Someone, or more than one someone, is responsible for the harm caused in that altercation. One's day time pursuits do not change what took place that night

Given my line of work, I agree it is helpful for facts to be known.

In most circumstances, if someone makes a complaint to police of an assault on a woman, if there is any sign of physical contact an arrest occurs fairly rapidly. This is particularly true if the alleged assailant is bubba brick layer, joe the plumber or tommy the techie.
But also in keeping with fairness, most such folk do not quickly seek out counsel. Inserting counsel between law enforcement and a person of interest to them is not something that is improper. Indeed it is something more people ought to do.

If there is evidence to support charges, it is more likely than not that charges will be brought.
Unfortunately, the investigation is already being marred, if I understood the report last night, by false witnesses coming forward. Those folk, irrespective of whom they think they are helping, could find themselves facing their own charges in making false reports. I have no truck with that. The judicial system has no need for testiliars.

If a muscled up person, athlete or no, clocks an annoying patron of significantly smaller size, charges will likely follow, unless the smaller person presented a clear threat such as brandishing a weapon.

If an intoxicated person lunged at someone and was deflected or missed outright, the existence of a broken bone or bones may not support a charge against anyone but the person with a broken bone.

I was not there. I have no specific facts. I am not alone in that.

There is one thing of which I am presently convinced. His status as a ball player means nothing to me regarding this incident. Nor should it to the police. Nor should it to the prosecution. Nor to the public at large. And yes, I know some will disagree. More's the pity.

Laramie
07-30-2014, 02:43 PM
Good thing you don't work for ESPN or you would be taking an unpaid vacation right about now. Protecting yourself by avoiding trouble is now "blaming the victim".

Thanks dude,

Don't go there with me...

Where did I blame the victim? You need some bifocals...

Sounds like you got caught off guard...


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OKCRT
07-30-2014, 08:07 PM
If there was a drunk girl that was calling me names and spit on me I would break her face with my fist. I will say it was self defense.

I would be charged with assault and battery and be in the jail house.


If a drunk man started calling me names and spit on me I would break his face with my fist. I will claim self defense.

I would be charged with assault and battery and be in the jail house.

Or do we live in a new World order where we can assault another person if they call us a name or spit on us? Is this how it's going to be from now on?

This is why OU has to kick this kid out. I guess he thinks what he did was OK. Maybe it is with Stoops. It was in the case with DGB so it prob is with Mixon as well. I am not surprised that some at OU are trying to sweep this under the rug but what is the DA doing? I think it come down to politics which is really sad.

OKCretro
07-30-2014, 09:14 PM
If you can go into the crowd to punch a 65 year old man for heckling you and play in a few week....

ljbab728
07-30-2014, 09:53 PM
If there was a drunk girl that was calling me names and spit on me I would break her face with my fist. I will say it was self defense.

I would be charged with assault and battery and be in the jail house.


If a drunk man started calling me names and spit on me I would break his face with my fist. I will claim self defense.

I would be charged with assault and battery and be in the jail house.

Or do we live in a new World order where we can assault another person if they call us a name or spit on us? Is this how it's going to be from now on?

This is why OU has to kick this kid out. I guess he thinks what he did was OK. Maybe it is with Stoops. It was in the case with DGB so it prob is with Mixon as well. I am not surprised that some at OU are trying to sweep this under the rug but what is the DA doing? I think it come down to politics which is really sad.
Once again someone is making a judgement based on guessing instead of facts. OU hasn't just been sitting on their hands entirely though.

Oklahoma football: Joe Mixon will not report for team activities while under investigation | NewsOK.com (http://m.newsok.com/reports-say-joe-mixon-suspended-from-football-activities/article/5109519)


“Joe Mixon is not reporting for team activities at this time,” a statement from the OU athletics department read. “We will continue to monitor the situation.”

hoya
07-31-2014, 06:00 AM
If there was a drunk girl that was calling me names and spit on me I would break her face with my fist. I will say it was self defense.

I would be charged with assault and battery and be in the jail house.


If a drunk man started calling me names and spit on me I would break his face with my fist. I will claim self defense.

I would be charged with assault and battery and be in the jail house.

Or do we live in a new World order where we can assault another person if they call us a name or spit on us? Is this how it's going to be from now on?

This is why OU has to kick this kid out. I guess he thinks what he did was OK. Maybe it is with Stoops. It was in the case with DGB so it prob is with Mixon as well. I am not surprised that some at OU are trying to sweep this under the rug but what is the DA doing? I think it come down to politics which is really sad.

If drunk person punches you and you punch them back, generally drunk person goes to jail. Spitting on someone is an assault. You have the right to defend yourself from it.

The DA will make a decision based upon what he thinks really happened. If the situation is what I have heard from courthouse gossip (not always reliable) then I don't think charges will be filed against Mixon, and they shouldn't. If you have a deeply held belief that it is never ever okay for a black guy to hit a white girl then obviously you disagree. Clearly our own personal beliefs and biases affect our judgment of the situation.

Bellaboo
07-31-2014, 08:36 AM
What if Mixon made a gay slur about the guy she was with, then she approached Mixon, called him the 'N' word and then she threw a punch. Then Mixon punches her back and leaves.

What happens to either one of them ?

jerrywall
07-31-2014, 08:45 AM
How about we quit playing "what ifs" until we know something?

OKCretro
07-31-2014, 09:38 AM
What if she's lying about the broken bones?

most people with broken jaws are not able to give 30 minute phone interviews within 16 hours of the incident. Most are silent for a few days. Maybe she is superwomen who goes to church every sunday

positano
07-31-2014, 09:41 AM
I am not surprised that some at OU are trying to sweep this under the rug..

What facts have you seen that suggest there is an attempt to do this?

Bellaboo
07-31-2014, 09:46 AM
How about we quit playing "what ifs" until we know something?

Maybe this IS what transpired ?

This is some of the 'fact' gossip going around.

td25er
07-31-2014, 05:01 PM
This one is so easy. Kick him off the team. There's no excuse for what he did. I don't care what she said to him. Words and fists are 2 different things. If Stoops keeps this kid he loses all credibility in the real world.

It seems to me that the BIGX11 conference as a whole is trying the winning at all costs tactics to try and stay up with the other power conferences. Take a look at what kind of crap has been going on within this conference. Boren needs to step in here and overide Stoops because if Stoops can find any way/loophole to keep this kid he will. Look at what they are trying to do with DGB. Big Game boob is trying to win at all costs. He has no morals. I hope he goes down in flames because he is digging his own grave.

It's pitiful that some people are trying to make the girl into some kind of criminal that deserved to get her face broken and possibly scarred for life. It makes me sick that the University has not come out against this Mixon kid and kicked him out of school. Does anyone have any morals? What is this world coming to.

She verbally and physically attacked him, according to his attorney. He definitely went WAY too far, but she deserved a physical wake up call like a bear hug or slap.

This "girl" is a repeat drug and alcohol offender with a warrant out for her arrest.

Video evidence will clear things up a lot. The girl claims she doesn't even remember the incident because she was drunk out of her mind.
Joe Mixon's Attorney Says The Assault Was In Self-Defense - News9.com - Oklahoma City, OK - News, Weather, Video and Sports | (http://www.news9.com/story/26135241/joe-mixons-attorney-says-the-assault-was-in-self-defense)

"Molitor plans to press charges against the football star, but admits she's doesn't remember everything that happened before, during, or even after the alleged altercation.

“I remember walking into Pickleman’s, and like I literally don’t remember really anything, until I was in the bathroom and everybody is banging on the door trying to get me out,” said Molitor.

Mixon's attorney says "Mixon found himself in a situation where he was subjected to both verbal and physical attacks from a very intoxicated and troubled young woman."

Molitor does have a criminal history out of Cleveland County, including possession of marijuana and possession of alcohol under the age of 21."

zookeeper
07-31-2014, 07:14 PM
She verbally and physically attacked him, according to his attorney. He definitely went WAY too far, but she deserved a physical wake up call like a bear hug or slap.

This "girl" is a repeat drug and alcohol offender with a warrant out for her arrest.

Video evidence will clear things up a lot. The girl claims she doesn't even remember the incident because she was drunk out of her mind.
Joe Mixon's Attorney Says The Assault Was In Self-Defense - News9.com - Oklahoma City, OK - News, Weather, Video and Sports | (http://www.news9.com/story/26135241/joe-mixons-attorney-says-the-assault-was-in-self-defense)

"Molitor plans to press charges against the football star, but admits she's doesn't remember everything that happened before, during, or even after the alleged altercation.

“I remember walking into Pickleman’s, and like I literally don’t remember really anything, until I was in the bathroom and everybody is banging on the door trying to get me out,” said Molitor.

Mixon's attorney says "Mixon found himself in a situation where he was subjected to both verbal and physical attacks from a very intoxicated and troubled young woman."

Molitor does have a criminal history out of Cleveland County, including possession of marijuana and possession of alcohol under the age of 21."

In those situations, you simply walk away. She couldn't have done much to Mixon. The answer was NOT to punch her out. That's rarely the answer to things in life.

Jersey Boss
07-31-2014, 07:27 PM
She verbally and physically attacked him, according to his attorney. He definitely went WAY too far, but she deserved a physical wake up call like a bear hug or slap.

This "girl" is a repeat drug and alcohol offender with a warrant out for her arrest.

Video evidence will clear things up a lot. The girl claims she doesn't even remember the incident because she was drunk out of her mind.
Joe Mixon's Attorney Says The Assault Was In Self-Defense - News9.com - Oklahoma City, OK - News, Weather, Video and Sports | (http://www.news9.com/story/26135241/joe-mixons-attorney-says-the-assault-was-in-self-defense)

"Molitor plans to press charges against the football star, but admits she's doesn't remember everything that happened before, during, or even after the alleged altercation.

“I remember walking into Pickleman’s, and like I literally don’t remember really anything, until I was in the bathroom and everybody is banging on the door trying to get me out,” said Molitor.

Mixon's attorney says "Mixon found himself in a situation where he was subjected to both verbal and physical attacks from a very intoxicated and troubled young woman."

Molitor does have a criminal history out of Cleveland County, including possession of marijuana and possession of alcohol under the age of 21."

She verbally and physically attacked him, according to his attorney.This is Mixons paid advocate, not a trier of fact.

This "girl" is a repeat drug and alcohol offender with a warrant out for her arrest Relevance to this case? How many other students smoke weed and drink beer?

Mixon's attorney says "Mixon found himself in a situation where he was subjected to both verbal and physical attacks from a very intoxicated and troubled young woman." Paid advocate, not a trier of fact.

Molitor does have a criminal history out of Cleveland County, including possession of marijuana and possession of alcohol under the age of 21." Relevance to this case? Pretty rare for a college student to smoke weed and drink beer- riiiight.

Wait till the facts come out, don't rely on a paid mouthpiece for what happened.

Bellaboo
08-01-2014, 07:48 AM
She verbally and physically attacked him, according to his attorney.This is Mixons paid advocate, not a trier of fact.

This "girl" is a repeat drug and alcohol offender with a warrant out for her arrest Relevance to this case? How many other students smoke weed and drink beer?

Mixon's attorney says "Mixon found himself in a situation where he was subjected to both verbal and physical attacks from a very intoxicated and troubled young woman." Paid advocate, not a trier of fact.

Molitor does have a criminal history out of Cleveland County, including possession of marijuana and possession of alcohol under the age of 21." Relevance to this case? Pretty rare for a college student to smoke weed and drink beer- riiiight.

Wait till the facts come out, don't rely on a paid mouthpiece for what happened.

My stepson knows a former employee at Pickelmans. He was told this from this connection who I presume got it from current Pickelman employees. This is just the rumor going around, not fact. But it's more than just from Mixon's attorney.

td25er
08-01-2014, 08:13 AM
In those situations, you simply walk away. She couldn't have done much to Mixon. The answer was NOT to punch her out. That's rarely the answer to things in life.

I don't necessarily agree that she couldn't have done much. She could easily break his nose or even scar his face with her fingernails if he just sits there and takes a few shots. But, he should definitely just get out of there without violence.

IF (BIG IF) this girl started it and attacked him (spit/fists/threw a glass at him/whatever), then I don't feel bad for her at all (even though the result was excessive). If he had time to settle himself and throw a punch, he deserves major punishment. If he just swung his arms/hands trying to get her off of him and caught her with an elbow or something, then I don't think he deserves any punishment at all.

We just need to see the video. It's an unfortunate situation. A guy's life is ruined and a woman got beat up pretty badly in an incident that could have been avoided by both parties (I'm assuming both parties are at fault).

BG918
08-01-2014, 08:52 AM
My stepson knows a former employee at Pickelmans. He was told this from this connection who I presume got it from current Pickelman employees. This is just the rumor going around, not fact. But it's more than just from Mixon's attorney.

Supposedly the video shows him pushing her away and hitting her face on the table.

Bellaboo
08-02-2014, 11:27 PM
Supposedly the video shows him pushing her away and hitting her face on the table.

Yep, a lot of 3rd and 4th hand info out there floating around.

hoya
08-03-2014, 03:07 PM
If he just pushed her away, and any injuries she has are just a result of her hitting her face as she drunkenly falls down, then he should be reinstated as soon as that information becomes public. A lot of people will owe him an apology as well. It should in no way affect his status with the team or the university.

OKCRT
08-03-2014, 06:43 PM
There's also eye witness info that he punched her in the face and some are trying everything in the book to keep the video from being released. Lets see the video. If he pushed her away and she fell and hurt herself then there's no reason to keep the video from the public eye because that is not assault. On the other hand.....

kelroy55
08-03-2014, 07:26 PM
There's also eye witness info that he punched her in the face and some are trying everything in the book to keep the video from being released. Lets see the video. If he pushed her away and she fell and hurt herself then there's no reason to keep the video from the public eye because that is not assault. On the other hand.....

Who are these eye witness's?

dankrutka
08-03-2014, 07:34 PM
There's also eye witness info that he punched her in the face and some are trying everything in the book to keep the video from being released. Lets see the video. If he pushed her away and she fell and hurt herself then there's no reason to keep the video from the public eye because that is not assault. On the other hand.....

At least according to this attorney, this isn't a conspiracy theory as you claim: Mike Strain: What's taking so long in the case of Sooners' Joe Mixon? A prosecutor offers insight - Tulsa World: Homepage1 (http://www.tulsaworld.com/homepage1/mike-strain-what-s-taking-so-long-in-joe-mixon/article_083fecaf-50e0-5658-99c5-4f8d2b1d6ca8.html?mode=jqm:)


On releasing the video

I asked Drummond about when the video might be released. He said he wouldn’t release video evidence to anyone outside his office and police investigators until he had to.

“I’m not showing it to anybody else. I’m just not going to,” he said.

There are a couple of reasons for that.

1) Drummond said prosecutors are ethically bound to provide a fair trial. Releasing evidence – whether a video, a confession, DNA – can compromise the ability to provide that fair trial. Jury pools can be tainted.

2) I asked him specifically about the case at OU, and how that video could help school officials determine Mixon’s playing future. Drummond wouldn’t discuss the specifics of that case, but he said if he showed evidence, it would create a problem.

“As a prosecutor, it would not be appropriate to release evidence to a third party. I’m supposed to be independent,” Drummond said. “It’s not going outside our office. Only law enforcement and prosecutors are going to see it.”

I wish we could just close this thread. Everyone continues speculation based on rumors and theories. Things will be clearer in time.

ljbab728
08-10-2014, 12:27 AM
I found this to be interesting since I heard Dean Blevins say recently on the Sports Animal that he was sure he would never play a down at OU. That could be true but why would he be hanging around so close?

Oklahoma football notebook: Joe Mixon watches OU scrimmage from sideline | News OK (http://newsok.com/joe-mixon-watches-ou-scrimmage-from-sideline/article/5146240)

Urbanized
08-10-2014, 12:31 AM
Was he sure or was he just...say...70/30?

ljbab728
08-10-2014, 12:34 AM
Was he sure or was he just...say...70/30?

He didn't say sure. He just said he would never play a down.

Bellaboo
08-10-2014, 01:09 AM
[QUOTE=ljbab728;818889]I found this to be interesting since I heard Dean Blevins say recently on the Sports Animal that he was sure he would never play a down at OU. That could be true but why would he be hanging around so close?

Blevins says all kinds of stuff anymore, but he's got an opinion like everyone else I guess.

Laramie
08-10-2014, 11:52 AM
[QUOTE=ljbab728;818889]I found this to be interesting since I heard Dean Blevins say recently on the Sports Animal that he was sure he would never play a down at OU. That could be true but why would he be hanging around so close?

Blevins says all kinds of stuff anymore, but he's got an opinion like everyone else I guess.

Blevins is a bottom feeder. He wants to be credited for that early release on a breaking news story. He risks what little credibility he has accumulated.


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kelroy55
08-13-2014, 07:23 AM
Has there been any more news on the Mixon situation?

Bellaboo
08-13-2014, 07:30 AM
Has there been any more news on the Mixon situation?

Yesterday it was reported that the woman involved will not talk to the Norman police.

OKCRT
08-13-2014, 07:22 PM
Usually when a victim refuses to talk it means they have received hush money.

mugofbeer
08-13-2014, 07:47 PM
Usually when a victim refuses to talk it means they have received hush money.

Or wasn't being truthful?

SOONER8693
08-13-2014, 07:55 PM
Usually when a victim refuses to talk it means they have received hush money.
Riiiiiight.

kevinpate
08-13-2014, 08:55 PM
Usually when a victim refuses to talk it means they have received hush money.


I can't say that's the silliest thing I have ever seen on this site, but it is right up there.

Usually when someone is refusing to talk to the police, it means there is either a level of distrust for law enforcement or the person has decided, independently or with guidance from a trusted source, to not participate in an interview.

Frankly, depending on the interviewer, the line between victim interview and suspect interrogation can be razor thin.

dankrutka
08-13-2014, 09:04 PM
It is not uncommon for victims of sexual assault to decide to move on with their lives then constantly re-live the traumatic experience in the public eye.

OKCretro
08-13-2014, 09:17 PM
Usually when a victim refuses to talk it means they have received hush money.

Lol lol that's just funny.

Pete
08-13-2014, 09:31 PM
http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/sooners.jpg

RadicalModerate
08-13-2014, 09:33 PM
RE: Subliminal Allusion to Hush Money (as a factor involving sports)


I can't say that's the silliest thing I have ever seen on this site, but it is right up there.

Usually when someone is refusing to talk to the police, it means there is either a level of distrust for law enforcement or the person has decided, independently or with guidance from a trusted source, to not participate in an interview.

Frankly, depending on the interviewer, the line between victim interview and suspect interrogation can be razor thin.

This could possibly surpass the levels of silliness previously attained . . . or not.
mBS0OWGUidc

And, if it is referred to as "hush money" someone is liable to get slapped up side the head.
Without a helmet. (or a tinfoil liner)

John
08-14-2014, 01:30 PM
Yesterday it was reported that the woman involved will not talk to the Norman police.

You realize she has outstanding warrants and has violated her prior plea agreements, correct?

John
08-14-2014, 01:31 PM
nm

John
08-14-2014, 01:35 PM
It is not uncommon for victims of sexual assault to decide to move on with their lives then constantly re-live the traumatic experience in the public eye.

There was nothing sexual about this...

Just drunk kids in a sandwich shop after the bars closed. :cheersmf:

dankrutka
08-14-2014, 02:11 PM
There was nothing sexual about this...

Just drunk kids in a sandwich shop after the bars closed. :cheersmf:

Yeah. I was referencing Frank Shannon's case, but maybe that's off topic.

Regarding the Mixon case it does appear the alleged victim is speaking to Norman Police today per Ryan Aber.

Laramie
08-14-2014, 07:47 PM
http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/sooners.jpg

Let's hope this Sports Illustrated Jinx doesn't haunt the Sooners; especially#9 Trevor Knight.


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Bellaboo
08-14-2014, 09:41 PM
You realize she has outstanding warrants and has violated her prior plea agreements, correct?

Yep, known that since day one.

Filthy
08-15-2014, 02:45 PM
Misdemeanor for Mixon. 1 or 2 game suspension, and then he should be good to go.

Filthy
08-15-2014, 02:59 PM
And I guess its as good of a time as any to offer up a solid brag. This is my daughter on the front page of the paper, throwing up the #1 with Trevor Knight!

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