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I don't have a problem with Damon's analysis per se, but that headline is awful and totally misleading. The article itself even says it could go either way (meaning it is entirely possible that it goes up to Nebraska, or Kansas). I know headlines and articles are written by different people, but I'd be PO'd if I was Damon Lane and that headline is what they got out of my writing.

I don't have a problem with Damon's analysis per se, but that headline is awful and totally misleading. The article itself even says it could go either way (meaning it is entirely possible that it goes up to Nebraska, or Kansas). I know headlines and articles are written by different people, but I'd be PO'd if I was Damon Lane and that headline is what they got out of my writing.

Yes, he should be pretty angry about that. It just makes for click-bait on KOCO.com.

It looks like the City of Oklahoma City is considering changing the siren activation policy from an "all call" to a "polygon" based system. A change is long overdue in my opinion. There is no point to having a sophisticated, dense warning siren system that nobody takes seriously because of perceived false alarms. Now, if we can get the weather radios to respond to polygon warnings, that would be great.

Possible changes in Oklahoma City?s tornado warning system | KFOR.com (http://kfor.com/2015/11/16/oklahoma-city-considering-change-to-tornado-siren-procedure/)

It looks like the City of Oklahoma City is considering changing the siren activation policy from an "all call" to a "polygon" based system. A change is long overdue in my opinion. There is no point to having a sophisticated, dense warning siren system that nobody takes seriously because of perceived false alarms. Now, if we can get the weather radios to respond to polygon warnings, that would be great.

Possible changes in Oklahoma City?s tornado warning system | KFOR.com (http://kfor.com/2015/11/16/oklahoma-city-considering-change-to-tornado-siren-procedure/)

What irritates me is that since this has been possible (perhaps in varying degrees) since this system was installed just a few years ago, but the City has insisted it wasn't. This just confirms what we knew all along.

The article I linked reads differently than the article I saw last night. It appears instead of going to a "polygon" based activation, the City plans to divide the system into nine warning sectors. We'll have to see how it works in practice, but at brief first glance, it appears it might be a reasonable compromise between county based "all call" and "polygon".

The City Council of the City of Oklahoma City has adopted a new "zone" outdoor warning siren activation policy.

From the press release linked below:

Sirens to sound in smaller areas

In previous years, OKC sounded all of its sirens within a county affected by an NWS tornado warning. For example, if the NWS issued a tornado warning in Cleveland County, OKC sounded all of its Cleveland County sirens. As a result, people could hear sirens far away from tornado threats.

Now, sirens will sound in smaller areas. That means anyone who hears a siren is more likely to be close to a potentially deadly storm.

http://www.okc.gov/news/2015_12/OKC_Council_adopts_new_localized_tornado_siren_pol icy.html

26.41" of blizzard snow for Guymon this weekend. WOW. Oklahoma City TV stations are sensationalizing the upcoming weather again.

Tomorrow, it'll be Boise City.

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National Weather Service has OKC getting 4-8 inches of snow out of the upcoming weather system this weekend. Damon Lane is forecasting 1-2 inches for the metro. I'm sure there is a reason, but what? As a novice, I would think the NWS would be the authority. Just asking.

Lane just mentioned on Twitter that he's liking the Euro model.

As a novice, I would think the NWS would be the authority. Just asking.Quite a few "weather models" exist to help forecasters anticipate what is going to happen, but none of them is extremely accurate. Consequently the forecasters have to look at all of these computer predictions, compare them, and then stick their necks out with a forecast based both on the models and their own experience. That's why we see such widely varying estimates.

Fact of the matter is that none of the models is regularly accurate more than 48 hours in advance, but the competitive nature of TV forces the weathermen to issue forecasts for as much as nine days in the future. Sometimes, even 24 hours is too far away to tell -- and that's when everyone winds up with a face full of egg!

NWS tends to be more conservative than most, but not always....

And of course, even an expert can be wrong from time to time.

Weather is so unpredictable. I have seen it rain on one side of the street and the other side not get a drop. Depending on what side of the street you lived on the forecast was either right or wrong.

Too many meteorologists anymore will just predict what a model predicts, and do so without any of their own gut feelings. The models are all there for a good meteorologist to use all together to form their own forecast. KOCO and "the Predictor" -- they use that exclusively and even attribute everything they forecast to it. It's really just a shame.

This is more about the general coverage and warnings, not just in OK:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/capital-weather-gang/wp/2016/04/27/tuesdays-severe-weather-bust-is-a-communication-wake-up-call/

Any word on what new tech News9 is supposed to be bringing to market soon? I feel I've been seeing commercials teasing it for a few months now.

Maybe it has something to do with the new G.O.E.S. satellite soon to be launched?

Maybe it has something to do with the new G.O.E.S. satellite soon to be launched?

What news 9 is doing won't have anything to do with a NOAA weather satellite. Plus, it won't be operational for several months for testing.

What news 9 is doing won't have anything to do with a NOAA weather satellite. Plus, it won't be operational for several months for testing.

GOES won't be operational until December 2017...

NBC recently paid for 4 big DOWs, to be shared among stations in certain markets. Dallas received one of them (Rick Mitchell's station will use it a lot). The DFW NBC station also just upgraded its radar and pushed a new chasing truck big last year.

Maybe News 9 is upgrading its own radar? Or buying a DOW?

Weather is becoming a bigger game nationally - I don't have any numbers or research, but I wonder if it's the only thing that really pulls younger generations in to TV news anymore. ABC is really pushing Ginger Zee across multiple ABC platforms; NBC bought the Weather Channel...

According to News9s social media this tech gets announced tonight.

NextGen Live radar. News9's own dual pol radar with no delay, supposedly the most powerful commercial radar in Oklahoma. Resolution will go from 1/2 mile to resolution the size of a football field.

So I guess this means KFOR will have to buy two of these radars in order to retain bragging rights? They are probably looking forward to the completion of the Morgan doom bunker, err I mean studio.

We'll see if it makes much of a difference, He seemed most excited about there not being much of a delay when getting data like there is from the KTLX radar. It's a Baron Radar product, he said only three other stations in the USA had looked into getting it so far.

I do think a huge mobile DOW would be very helpful here in OK. Seems like it'd be especially useful when storms get close to the radar hole.

What news 9 is doing won't have anything to do with a NOAA weather satellite. Plus, it won't be operational for several months for testing.

Thanks for the clarification. I wasn't sure because I had heard KFOR mention it the other morning, but I hadn't had time to read up on it.

Lacey Swope is leaving News9 for News on 6 in Tulsa...

Lacey Swope is leaving News9 for News on 6 in Tulsa...

Yup, she posted a video to her FB page where she talked about wanting to move back closer to her and her husband's respective families (near Tulsa). Turns out someone was leaving the KOTV weather staff this summer just about the time her contract with Ch9 expires, so it seemed to dovetail fairly naturally. She does a good job for Ch 9, and also seems like such a nice young lady, just very girl-next-door, and I wish her well.

So strange how they had her and Jed on at the same time.

At first I thought it was kind of an apprentice type thing for Lacey, where Jed was helping coach her on TV weather, but it more seemed like maybe Jed just wanted some backup, I know weather is almost a part time job for him at this point, he was getting very heavily involved in his church.

Just not sure how many people you need to say what the high for today will be.................over and over and over. My wife and I get a kick out of it most mornings. They were on together most times. Jed would come on and give the weather. Not 15 minutes later, here is Lacey saying the same thing Jed just said. Then here is Jed saying the same thing 10 minutes after that. Just didn't make sense, but was comical.

Just not sure how many people you need to say what the high for today will be.................over and over and over. My wife and I get a kick out of it most mornings. They were on together most times. Jed would come on and give the weather. Not 15 minutes later, here is Lacey saying the same thing Jed just said. Then here is Jed saying the same thing 10 minutes after that. Just didn't make sense, but was comical.

I think the constant repeat of news/weather in the morning is in relation to viewers watching local morning news/weather in quick increments. As a result news stations know people wake and leave for work from 5:00-8:00 and repeat the same news/weather to catch the viewer who watches for 10-15 minutes before leaving for work. I doubt they program morning news/weather for the retired person. But yes, I agree. The redundancy can be a bit much.

I think the constant repeat of news/weather in the morning is in relation to viewers watching local morning news/weather in quick increments. As a result news stations know people wake and leave for work from 5:00-8:00 and repeat the same news/weather to catch the viewer who watches for 10-15 minutes before leaving for work. I doubt they program morning news/weather for the retired person. But yes, I agree. The redundancy can be a bit much.

You're exactly right. Many people just turn on the news for a short time in the morning to see what is going on and then turn it off. I'm sure the news producers understand this and schedule the segments accordingly.

You're exactly right. Many people just turn on the news for a short time in the morning to see what is going on and then turn it off. I'm sure the news producers understand this and schedule the segments accordingly.

Naive soul that I am, didn't realize this until I started spontaneously waking up earlier, and realizing they started it at 4AM, and then noticed once I'd gotten to roughly 4:15, they started repeating it. Even their reactions to stories are canned and repeated. Alas.

Keep forgetting about this, but watching tonight, I was reminded long enough to post. When Payne's on in front of his green screen (assuming that's what it is and not a wall of LED screens), every so often the screen goes out of focus for about 1-2 secs, then back to normal, happens every minute or so, very similar to what a smartphone does when it's trying to find focus (and it's just the screen behind him, not him or anything else they're showing. Don't see it on 4 or 5, wondering if anybody else has noticed it?

Three years ago I was in Three Rivers, TX for a six month construction project. Virtually all my crew were from the Corpus Christi area, so I'm watching local coverage of Harvey rolling in. Only one TV station, KIII, is covering it live (on air) and they are simply referencing local,social media and showing still radar shots 30 minutes old or rerolling the past four hours of radar as it made landfall. We in the metro are blessed to have some of the best technology and most knowledgeable meteorologists in the nation to inform us despite the inherent hype.

I suspected the level of coverage would be poor because during my job I got vague alerts from a corporate weather source alerting to a tornado warning. I pulled up local radar and saw three very suspicious radar signatures in succession within about ten miles of us. Subsequently, three tornadoes passed within a half mile of our site (we'd cleared out) on the ground. No mention from the news until after the fact.

Nonetheless, I'm appalled at the poor local coverage of an event like Harvey and now very glad for the opportunity to parse hype from reasonable caution with the good technical info available from virtually every station in the Metro.