Maybe a tenth or 0.2" at the most right now.

Winter Wx Adv for the far NW counties...

URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NORMAN OK
242 PM CST FRI MAR 7 2014


OKZ004>007-009-010-080845-
/O.NEW.KOUN.WW.Y.0011.140308T0400Z-140309T0000Z/
HARPER-WOODS-ALFALFA-GRANT-ELLIS-WOODWARD-
INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...BUFFALO...ALVA...CHEROKEE...MEDFORD...
ARNETT...WOODWARD
242 PM CST FRI MAR 7 2014


...WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY IN EFFECT FROM 10 PM THIS EVENING TO
6 PM CST SATURDAY...


THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN NORMAN HAS ISSUED A WINTER
WEATHER ADVISORY FOR SNOW AND SLEET...WHICH IS IN EFFECT FROM 10
PM THIS EVENING TO 6 PM CST SATURDAY.


* TIMING: BEGINNING LATE TONIGHT AND ENDING EARLY TOMORROW
EVENING.


* MAIN IMPACT: SNOW AND SLEET ACCUMULATIONS AROUND 1 TO 2 INCHES.


* OTHER IMPACTS: BLOWING SNOW MAY RESULT IN REDUCED VISIBILITIES.




PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...


BE CAREFUL IF YOU HAVE TO TRAVEL. EVEN SMALL AMOUNTS OF ICE AND
SNOW CAN MAKE ROADS AND SIDEWALKS SLICK AND DANGEROUS.

Hopefully, I'm not being premature, but I do believe winter is pretty much done with except for a few moderate cold snaps.

Hopefully, I'm not being premature, but I do believe winter is pretty much done with except for a few moderate cold snaps.

Maybe a couple possible brushes with winter coming up. However GFS seems to be hinting at severe weather season getting ready to slowly start up around the 23rd. Still early though to worry about that. We have some fire weather days to get through this week.

Maybe a couple possible brushes with winter coming up. However GFS seems to be hinting at severe weather season getting ready to slowly start up around the 23rd. Still early though to worry about that. We have some fire weather days to get through this week.

Would it be unusual to have a major tornado outbreak in the month of March?

Would it be unusual to have a major tornado outbreak in the month of March?

A major outbreak might be unusual, but it isn't uncommon for severe weather to start ramping up here in March. There is very wide year-to-year variability, but we do average 4 tornadoes in March within western and central OK.

Our top 5 years for March tornadoes are:

1991 (17)
1959 (16)
2000 (15)
2008 (13)
2004 (12)

Monthly/Annual statistics for Tornadoes in Oklahoma (1950-Present) (http://www.srh.noaa.gov/oun/?n=tornadodata-ok-monthlyannual)

Looks like Saturday may be a chance to get some much needed moisture. However still being 3 days away, a lot can dry up...

We need rain. BADLY

Ch 9 is indicating that we might have bad storms about March 21?

Ch 9 is indicating that we might have bad storms about March 21?

It touched on this a few days ago in this thread. Potential is still there for some severe weather around the 23rd, but still too far out to get to worried. We are getting close to the time of year where there will be chances of storms and when there is, the severe risk will almost always be there too.

The local stations are ready to start hyping. Last year there are a few April storms that were pretty hyped up but it didn't really get bad until May. Nonetheless, these next few months are a scary time to live in Oklahoma with the potential for storms of biblical proportion.

It touched on this a few days ago in this thread. Potential is still there for some severe weather around the 23rd, but still too far out to get to worried. We are getting close to the time of year where there will be chances of storms and when there is, the severe risk will almost always be there too.

Yeah but we should have the giant walls up by then.

The local stations are ready to start hyping. Last year there are a few April storms that were pretty hyped up but it didn't really get bad until May. Nonetheless, these next few months are a scary time to live in Oklahoma with the potential for storms of biblical proportion.

Eh, local media wants ratings in most cases. The weather has been pretty boring here lately with a couple exceptions.

The local stations are ready to start hyping. Last year there are a few April storms that were pretty hyped up but it didn't really get bad until May. Nonetheless, these next few months are a scary time to live in Oklahoma with the potential for storms of biblical proportion.

Your posts on severe weather are brimming with fear, bchris02. We all know this season is something of which to be seriously aware, but stoking fear with the words and tone you so often choose are just not helping anything. Let's be alert but not fearful. C'mon, man.

The local stations are ready to start hyping. Last year there are a few April storms that were pretty hyped up but it didn't really get bad until May. Nonetheless, these next few months are a scary time to live in Oklahoma with the potential for storms of biblical proportion.

Or it could be a completely "boring" season which is not a good thing either because we need the rain.

Your posts on severe weather are brimming with fear, bchris02. We all know this season is something of which to be seriously aware, but stoking fear with the words and tone you so often choose are just not helping anything. Let's be alert but not fearful. C'mon, man.

Exactly. The last people that should be afraid of any weather event are OKCTalk readers. We are all talking about things well in advance of anything happening. :)

Exactly. The last people that should be afraid of any weather event are OKCTalk readers. We are all talking about things well in advance of anything happening. :)

You're absolutely correct. We should be worrying about the earthquakes that are going to swallow us whole while sleeping in bed at night. :wink:

Storm Outlook (00Z NAM / 00Z GFS)

Saturday 15th - Mostly just rain but some isolated thunder mixed in with some decent instability around. Best chance for anything severe will be south of the Red River it appears.

Thursday 20th - Rain most of the state, instability 1000-2000 j/kg just west of I-35.

Friday 21st - Slight chance of storms - central and east.

Saturday 22nd - Slight chance of storms Eastern OK.

Last spring seemed unusual in that we had a slow start and several cold snaps quite late in the spring.

What is the thinking on that happening again?

Last year in March and April around every 3-4 days there would be a cold snap that would take nighttime lows into the upper 20s like a broken record. It was very unusual to have such strong cold snaps so late in the year. There was even freezing rain in the metro in mid-April and snow in NW Oklahoma in early May. So far this year the pattern seems different than that.

Lately, I have lost hope in "patterns".

Last year we were in a record dry spell, with all patterns indicating we would remain in one indefinitely.

Then one day it started raining, and we had the (second?) wettest year on record. The patterns changed overnight, with no warning.

I could do with a nice rainy Saturday in to start my spring break.

The system coming through this weekend is very intense... If this had come through a couple weeks ago, it would definitely be a blizzard in most of OK.

Looks like good soaking rain for the eastern 2/3 of the state.

12Z NAM is getting a bit more interesting in terms of producing snow with the wraparound Sunday. Climatologically-speaking, this would fall in line with several previous March storm systems. March 28, 2009 is a distinct parallel (10.4" in Tulsa). Just something to keep an eye on.....

https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/t31.0-8/1795209_10102111606999537_395699289_o.jpg

http://wxcaster4.com/nam/CONUS1_NAM212_SFC_ACCUM-SNOWFALL_72HR.gif

Storm in SW OK near the Red River, to the west of Waurika, appears to be nearing marginal severe limits. Storm motion is generally east at this time.

http://www.weatherspotlight.com/screencap/mar14/15-1.png

Hail and some strong winds appear likely around Waurika and to the east right now.

http://www.weatherspotlight.com/screencap/mar14/15-2.png

http://www.spc.noaa.gov/products/watch/ww0029_radar.gif

URGENT - IMMEDIATE BROADCAST REQUESTED
SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WATCH NUMBER 29
NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK
220 PM CDT SAT MAR 15 2014


THE NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER HAS ISSUED A


* SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WATCH FOR PORTIONS OF
SOUTHERN OKLAHOMA
NORTHERN AND CENTRAL TEXAS


* EFFECTIVE THIS SATURDAY AFTERNOON AND EVENING FROM 220 PM UNTIL
1000 PM CDT.


* PRIMARY THREATS INCLUDE...
SEVERAL LARGE HAIL EVENTS LIKELY WITH A FEW VERY LARGE HAIL
EVENTS TO 2 INCHES IN DIAMETER POSSIBLE
A FEW DAMAGING WIND GUSTS TO 70 MPH POSSIBLE


THE SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WATCH AREA IS APPROXIMATELY ALONG AND 65
STATUTE MILES EAST AND WEST OF A LINE FROM 20 MILES SOUTH
SOUTHEAST OF BROWNWOOD TEXAS TO 55 MILES NORTHEAST OF ARDMORE
OKLAHOMA. FOR A COMPLETE DEPICTION OF THE WATCH SEE THE
ASSOCIATED WATCH OUTLINE UPDATE (WOUS64 KWNS WOU9).


PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...


REMEMBER...A SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WATCH MEANS CONDITIONS ARE
FAVORABLE FOR SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS IN AND CLOSE TO THE WATCH
AREA. PERSONS IN THESE AREAS SHOULD BE ON THE LOOKOUT FOR
THREATENING WEATHER CONDITIONS AND LISTEN FOR LATER STATEMENTS
AND POSSIBLE WARNINGS. SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS CAN AND OCCASIONALLY
DO PRODUCE TORNADOES.


&&


DISCUSSION...TSTMS NOW FORMING/STRENGTHENING IN WRN N TX AND OVER
WRN PARTS OF THE HILL COUNTRY SHOULD FURTHER STRENGTHEN AND INCREASE
IN ORGANIZATION/SUSTENANCE AS ASSOCIATED W TX UPR IMPULSE ASSUMES
MORE OF A NEUTRAL TILT AND CONTINUES ENE TOWARD/ACROSS WW REGION.
AREA VWP DATA SHOW ASSOCIATED INCREASE IN LOW/MID-LVL WIND FIELD
THAT SUGGESTS POTENTIAL FOR THE EVENTUAL DEVELOPMENT OF A FEW
EMBEDDED SUPERCELLS CAPABLE OF SVR HAIL AND PERHAPS DMGG WIND. THE
ACTIVITY MAY MERGE INTO A SMALL MCS THAT CONTINUES MAINLY ENE INTO
NE TX/S CNTRL AND SE OK THROUGH MID-EVE.


AVIATION...A FEW SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS WITH HAIL SURFACE AND ALOFT
TO 2 INCHES. EXTREME TURBULENCE AND SURFACE WIND GUSTS TO 60
KNOTS. A FEW CUMULONIMBI WITH MAXIMUM TOPS TO 450. MEAN STORM
MOTION VECTOR 23035.

Tornadoes
Probability of 2 or more tornadoes

Low (10%)
Probability of 1 or more strong (F2-F5) tornadoes

Low (<2%)
Wind
Probability of 10 or more severe wind events

Low (20%)
Probability of 1 or more wind events > 65 knots

Low (<5%)
Hail
Probability of 10 or more severe hail events

Mod (60%)
Probability of 1 or more hailstones > 2 inches

Mod (30%)
Combined Severe Hail/Wind
Probability of 6 or more combined severe hail/wind events

High (90%)

Storm outlook appears to be pretty quick. Only two real chances per the 12Z GFS as it is presented today (of course things always change)...

Friday the 21st - Far SC and SE OK and it is a very slight chance for any marginal severe stuff.

Thursday the 27th - Most of Central and Eastern OK. Instability appears it will be in place and somewhat favorable environment to get a few decent hail storms going. Wind profile would suggest some rotating updrafts, but we'll see if this even lasts the next few runs.

Still 5 days out, but the 27th is popping back up as a potential severe day in Oklahoma. We'll see how models keep trending.

http://climate.cod.edu/data/forecast/GFS/00/SGP/gfsSGP_con_scp_144.gif

12Z GFS maintains threat potential for Thursday. The window for severe weather though is probably going to be really short and moisture return is still a major question. The previous 4 runs are showing a similar solution to this, and really it was hinted at nearly a week ago and remains.

The setup will be a dryline moving through by early evening followed quickly by a cold front from the NW. Temps will be low to mid 70s most of the day. Surface low will go well north through KS. By early afternoon surface moisture could have dewpoints in the low to mid 50s over much of the area. GFS tries to pull some low 60s up into East Central OK, but I'm not sold on that at all...especially in March and with expanding drought conditions. Instability will peak in early evening generally near or east of I-35 - like most early Spring setups. LI values could range from -4 down to -7 in some areas east of the dryline. SBCAPE generally 1000 j/kg with some spots near 1500 j/kg in SC OK. EHI values could be pretty high in the 3 to 5 range. Wind profile will be favorable for rotating storms which could yield some decent hail reports.

Now with all that mention, the doubts rest on moisture return and cap strength. Forecast sounding has a cap around 4 or higher ahead of the dryline and the GFS limits most precip development now, unlike previous runs. So this is definitely not set in stone at all. I would probably put it well under a 10% probability right now until we get closer. In fact with the way it looks now, I would expect more chasers than hail stones on the ground on Thursday. :)

Just something to watch. We've had a very quiet start to the year so far, but we usually have one or two severe events in March to start kicking things off. Based on my experience down here, these are normally east of I-35 storms that move pretty darn fast to the E or NE. This could be similar as storm movements are forecast to be around 45 mph off to the east.

Odd how last yr we came close{?} to breaking the record for moisture in the metro and here we are several months later and badly needing moisture. I am going to start doing a rain dance hoping for a gulley washer or several of them.

In this Spring outlook, there's drought improvement for central Oklahoma, but not the western part: http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2014/20140320_springoutlook.html

Storm Outlook from the evening models...

00Z GFS
Wednesday March 26th - W OK, PH - Very slight chance for a storm or two in the TX & OK PH and maybe far W OK if anything can form. Instability pretty limited, so nothing major. Central and E OK could see a quick shot of some needed rain.

Thursday March 27th - SE OK - This has trended further east and south the last few runs. This takes the risk area to a more climatologically favorable area for this time of year. Severe possible far SE OK, best chance will be down into TX.

Friday March 28th - C, SC, and SE OK - Instability will be higher this day with cape values 1000-1500 j/kg from the OKC Metro area through SC OK. Scattered showers and storms appear probably over much of the area. Severe risk will be pegged low for right now.

Sunday March 30th - W, C OK - Meager instability over much of the state, generally with CAPE under 1000 j/kg. Not much in the way of precip, so no risk right now.

Monday March 31st - W, NW OK - Marginal instability over NW OK with CAPE values at or just above 1000 j/kg. Still appears precip will be lacking, so risk is absent unless things change.

Tuesday April 1st - W, C OK - Moderate instability with CAPE approaching 1500+ j/kg over NC OK with 1000 j/kg south to about LAW. Potential for some very isolated areas of storms to pop up, but risk negated by such low areal coverage.

Anon and Venture.... I've been looking at some weather models lately and it is starting to look like our first chance of "possible" severe weather in eastern Oklahoma/Tulsa will be this Thursday the 27th. Our local Meteorologist are saying just be "aware". (duh it's Oklahoma lol) Looking at models its not looking like a huge chance but there seems to be a low chance of some type of severe weather. I know right now moisture is the big concern. IF we see moisture do you think there will be enough wind sheer to support rotating storms? Again I know a lot about weather and how all this works, I storm chase every season. I just want to know what you guys are thinking as of now, and where you think possibilities are.. Just something fun to look forward to. Thanks guys

Well on Wednesday there will be a weak system moving up out of TX across most of OK. Temps in the upper 50s with a cool rain falling. Should get around half an inch over much of state if all goes to current plan.

The following day looks like extreme eastern OK has a shot at some storms, but it does not look promising. I would say people in central AR have a better shot at some severe weather.


Long term outlook:
After this Wednesday, looks like we get into 70s on the daily and we dry out even more. Look for high fire dangers more consistently.

I'm ready for some warmer weather!

I'm ready for some warmer weather!

Look no further than this weekend. Upper 70s come Sunday!

Here is the SPC outlook for Thursday...again, this is mostly going to be an E OK event.

http://www.spc.noaa.gov/products/outlook/day3otlk_0730.gif

So is winter on its last legs or do you think we will see periodic shots of arctic air in April like we did last year?

Bchris02... According to current weather models the major cold looks to be pretty much done.(That doesn't mean we won't get in the lower 40's for daytime lows.) But for the 20's and really cold weather we look to be pretty much done. For April it looks like for the most part we will be in the Upper 60's and lower 70's for day time highs and pretty much in the 50's for lows. We may get to the lower 80's some days next month. =)

I would say with tomorrow's cool rain. It will spark off official spring in OK. Consistently upper 60s to 70s and things start turning green. Fire danger will be high on warm windy days, especially before things become green the next few weeks.

Thursday appears to be a pretty active day on tap for severe weather, mainly in far eastern Oklahoma.

Through 1PM dryline will setup generally just west of I-35 across the body of Oklahoma. Dews ahead of it will be mainly in the 50s to near 60 in far SE OK. By 4PM the dryline will shift east to a Tulsa-Ardmore line with respectable moisture ahead of it. At the same time a cold front will start to swing down from Kansas into NW OK. Fire danger looks most extreme over W and SW OK where very dry air will punch in earlier than to the east. By 7PM the dryline will setup from Miami to Durant, with the cold front start to overtake it in NE OK. Temps well into the 70s ahead and behind the dryline.

Instability showing CAPE values up to and maybe exceeding 2000 j/kg especially over SE OK. Storm initiation looks like it may be pretty late for Oklahoma, around the 7PM hour out east. Meanwhile a pretty tough squall line could be on going up over MO. Everything should move out into AR pretty quickly, at least by 10PM. If we look at the composite images, Severe potential is there for much of the area mention, with the tornado risk highest in SE OK - if anything can get going there in time before things shift into AR.

http://climate.cod.edu/data/forecast/NAM/12/SGP/namSGP_con_scp_060.gif

http://climate.cod.edu/data/forecast/NAM/12/SGP/namSGP_con_stp_060.gif

Venture... So do you think Tulsa area will be out of this? About how far in miles from Tulsa? I'm planning on chasing Thursday but don't want to go way to far from Tulsa. Also, according to the info you provided what do you think the chances are of Tornadoes

Venture... So do you think Tulsa area will be out of this? About how far in miles from Tulsa? I'm planning on chasing Thursday but don't want to go way to far from Tulsa. Also, according to the info you provided what do you think the chances are of Tornadoes

Main show looks like early evening and in pretty terrible chase territory in most cases. I think best tornado risk is in AR, but that might be close to or after dark. If it were me, I would probably pass on this one. Of course things could change tomorrow to show things popping further west.

Yeah I've chased that area before it can get pretty difficult to see some times. Are any models showing a further west trend at all?

Just look @ where the dryline is tomorrow and make your call then. I, for one, would not chase Eastern OK at all.

Aww, here we go. hoping for tornadoes so people can get off. So nice here in the Bible Belt.

Aww, here we go. hoping for tornadoes so people can get off. So nice here in the Bible Belt.

What are you talking about? Their going to happen anyway. Some people just choose to study and admire the power of nature and many come every year from areas outside the bible belt.

Just look @ where the dryline is tomorrow and make your call then. I, for one, would not chase Eastern OK at all.

Agree.

What are you talking about? Their going to happen anyway. Some people just choose to study and admire the power of nature and many come every year from areas outside the bible belt.

Well there is a good shot of decent rain tomorrow, but some are worried that the tornado threat that brings destruction to homes and businesses as well as possible loss of life will be too far east for them to chase. Oh so sad for them.

Well there is a good shot of decent rain tomorrow, but some are worried that the tornado threat that brings destruction to homes and businesses as well as possible loss of life will be too far east for them to chase. Oh so sad for them.

I dont think Soonerman is that concern about it.

Well there is a good shot of decent rain tomorrow, but some are worried that the tornado threat that brings destruction to homes and businesses as well as possible loss of life will be too far east for them to chase. Oh so sad for them.

I'm not sure how much you have read these threads in the last year you have been around, but your tone really highlights you don't understand what these threads are for. There are also many who are meteorologists, weather enthusiasts, chasers, etc...that all contribute to this thread as well. Which means you'll have discussion about ideal chase conditions, favorable environments for tornadoes, etc. No one those is wanting any of these to go through a populated area.

If such an innocent comment that Sooner made is going to bug you or offend you that much, please avoid the Weather section for the next 3 months. :)

Rain accumulations for tomorrow look pretty decent and widespread. Not a ton of rain, but it helps.

http://climate.cod.edu/data/forecast/NAM/00/SGP/namSGP_sfc_precacc_033.gif

I'm not sure how much you have read these threads in the last year you have been around, but your tone really highlights you don't understand what these threads are for. There are also many who are meteorologists, weather enthusiasts, chasers, etc...that all contribute to this thread as well. Which means you'll have discussion about ideal chase conditions, favorable environments for tornadoes, etc. No one those is wanting any of these to go through a populated area.

If such an innocent comment that Sooner made is going to bug you or offend you that much, please avoid the Weather section for the next 3 months. :)

If anything chasers hate trying to chase a storm through a populated area. Especially, when people are clogging the roads while fleeing south.

Well, it seems we are having an epidemic of "wannabe chasers" lately. I myself, was guilty of it one year, but that was the first year I got my license, and a Logan County Sheriff stopped me and we had a good hour long chat. He was real nice and told me some things that have happened to people who are inexperienced(like myself) that go out and chase these storms and I have no done it since.

Well, it seems we are having an epidemic of "wannabe chasers" lately. I myself, was guilty of it one year, but that was the first year I got my license, and a Logan County Sheriff stopped me and we had a good hour long chat. He was real nice and told me some things that have happened to people who are inexperienced(like myself) that go out and chase these storms and I have no done it since.

Yeah, but that has really been increasing as mobile data has become more accessible. I remember chasing the first time in Oklahoma in 1997. It was me with my scanner radio, weather radio, and maps - the paper kind. The next year or two things changed dramatically as mobile data started to come into the picture even more and laptops and mobile radar allowed more people with no weather background. Ah well. Side note...I'm going to finally start getting my old videos on line. Figured I need too before VCRs go completely extinct. LOL

I've been chasing for 8 years. I've been extremely passionate about the weather since I could walk.

Thank you venture... Many people obviously do not read these post on here. I chase for the data and to help our local meteorologist give people warning. I have chased for 8 years and am not a "wannabe." lol without storm chasers do people honestly think there warning system to take shelter would be that great? Don't get me wrong modern science has advanced but without people on the ground it is extremely hard to tell if there's a tornado on the ground. (yes I know you can have a "radar detected" tornado that has a hook echo on the back end with inflow and outflow). Do people on here ever watch the news? When there are tornadoes how many times do the meteorologists call the chasers to get a live view on what they see? It's not to "get off." For one I don't want to go to far east of Tulsa because it is even more dangerous in the hilly terrain in far eastern Oklahoma. Tornadoes will happen here people, it's happened for hundreds of years. Don't blame chasers for trying to help innocent people and children. Like venture said, if you don't want to read about chases and tornadoes don't read the post, We'll be talking about chases for several months ahead. =)


For the people getting upset here's my post from awhile back,


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Since the month of Feb. is almost up, I just wanted to talk a little about this upcoming spring. I absolutely love the weather and have watched it since I was around 5 years old. Last spring we had an extremely active severe weather season (as all of you brothers and sisters down in OKC/Moore know ). Here in Tulsa we didn't have "as many" tornadoes in the area as you guys down there, but I still had many opportunities to chase. Please no one get me wrong, I do not want tornadoes to hit communities what so ever! I chase for the science and to help give local mets info to help keep people safe. As I've noticed lately (people that hate severe weather do not read), we likely look to be in for another very active severe weather season this year (Large hail, Tornadoes, flooding rains, ect.). If anything we were kind of "unprepared" last year as many forecasters didn't believe we would see "as much" tornadoes due to the persistent drought in Oklahoma. Looking at the weather we have had lately and this winter, we looked primed for April to be pretty active yet again. (Last few years we have had somewhere around 100+ tornadoes, with a high % coming in April). I wanted to bring this up to see what everyone's views on this subject are?

AGAIN I do not want to scare anyone, I just want people to keep this in mind since spring will be approaching quickly. My thoughts and prayers are all with you in Moore/OKC/El Reno area. God bless all of you. Stay safe -Taylor


Again, I chase for the science. I want to help more understand these violent storms and give a better warning system so we do not see tragedies happen to schools and homes.

Plutonic Panda.... Do you know all the stories that have happened to "expert" chasers too? Those things can happen to anyone, these are very violent storms. Before people chase they really have to know how a tornado is made and "usually" which way tornadoes travel ("usually" they move up from the southwest to the northeast sometimes west to east if they tornado is large). After people first understand how a tornado is made then they'll know where to go when they chase. Most people, "professionals" included, get to excited and close that's how terrible accidents happen.

Plutonic Panda.... Do you know all the stories that have happened to "expert" chasers too?.

Can pretty much be summed up with one name.... Tim Samaras.

OK BBQ...... Exactly... That's what I was thinking of just didn't want to mention his name though (since people are getting so butt hurt about us talking about storm chasing I figured they would freak out even more about that). Tim Samaras was extremely experienced in storm chasing. I was trying to prove my point that anyone can chase you just have to be alert of your surroundings and know how storms work and move. He loved helping improve the warning system and chasing for science, not to "get off" like some people say. I can't believe some people are so ignorant. There's lots of people out there that appreciate what I do, I chase to help. Thank you OK BBQ for agreeing with me