Wow. And they won't even have to tear down any historically significant buildings. This is a "world class" development.

This deserves its own thread, perhaps?

So would this be the second tallest tower in OKC?

I can imagine this will also put quite a bit of pressure on the Co-Op site.

More like put a lot of value on the co-op site.

bump.

This seems way too big of a deal to be true. Like no official announcement or anything, just conceptual renderings on a portfolio.

I won't hold my breath, but this is something we know is coming eventually for OKC, we just need someone with balls and deep pockets to take the first plunge.

I think high-rise is best for this site.

Lucky guess.

This seems way too big of a deal to be true. Like no official announcement or anything, just conceptual renderings on a portfolio.

I won't hold my breath, but this is something we know is coming eventually for OKC, we just need someone with balls and deep pockets to take the first plunge.

+1

This seems way too big of a deal to be true. Like no official announcement or anything, just conceptual renderings on a portfolio.

I won't hold my breath, but this is something we know is coming eventually for OKC, we just need someone with balls and deep pockets to take the first plunge.

I agree. Something like this wouldn't be out of place somewhere like Austin, Dallas, or Charlotte but it seems like too big of a deal for OKC. It's not a complete impossibility though. I'm waiting for an announcement before I get too excited. If this does happen, its going to be a total game changer.

So are we now going to call everything east of the tracks south to i40 Bricktown? It seems large enough to have it's own name and it would be nice if it was encouraged it be architecturally different. If that is the kind of density pastern that can be established it can certainly be a very different feel but also from the perspective retail, dining and other services available.

This entire area should become its own neighborhood and not be part of Bricktown. I like the name North40 (north of I-40), but that is just me. If/when the scrap yard along the river is replaced it would be the South40.

Once again, well said bchris! I agree with you post 100 percent and hope this does happen.

The Co-op is moving out to the old Dayton Tire Plant. The land is already for sale but since they aren't quite ready to move yet they put a high price on it. Once they move the price will come down.

Oklahoma City seed mill mulls moving | News OK (http://newsok.com/oklahoma-city-seed-mill-mulls-moving/article/3342150)



As for providing jobs and tax revenue, 43 acres of commercial and residential development will produce orders of magnitude more of both than the Cotton Seed mill on a per acre basis. In fact, it won't even be close.

In the article it says it could be years away. They got that right. The article was published 5 years ago, and there is no sign of them moving anytime soon.

In the article it says it could be years away. They got that right. The article was published 5 years ago, and there is no sign of them moving anytime soon.

They put it up for sale the next year. I'm sure they will move when someone comes up with $120 million to buy them out.

http://accc.k-state.edu/ncera210/jocpdfs/v25/ProducersOilMillfinal.pdf

It's not his rationality, it is his approach and his "broken, record-ness". "The co-op stinks and is in a bad place" "everyone in Oklahoma city is trashy because a few people park on the grass at PSM' "OKC will never be Charlotte" "OKC will never be Austin". This is all he says on here and it gets really old.

That's not all he says. He says plenty about Walmart too. And don't forget Louisville and Tulsa.

Did those posts from Bricktown thread get moved over here?

Did those posts from Bricktown thread get moved over here?

Looks like Pete just moved them -

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They put it up for sale the next year. I'm sure they will move when someone comes up with $120 million to buy them out.

http://accc.k-state.edu/ncera210/jocpdfs/v25/ProducersOilMillfinal.pdf

I was just getting ready to post that link :). They can go straight to page 9 (The Relocation Issue). They plan to be moved by 2019.

Yes, I moved the posts from the general Bricktown thread.

All I know is that it's been rumored for a while that this property was under contract. It has not sold as of yet.


Humphrey & Partners Architects is a big firm out of Dallas. Other than the redesign of the Park Harvey (Richard Tanenbaum), they were also brought in by Marva Ellard for her pitch for The Hill property that was ultimately awarded to the current group.

Tanenbaum is also using them to redevelop the old John Marshall HS site.


Since the property has not sold as of yet, I suspect this is a conceptual plan by the potential developers to help drum up financing and/or investors.

However, using a big-name architecture firm gives it some credibility.

This would be really cool!

BRICKTOWN
OKLAHOMA

5.6 Acres
103 Units / Acre
43 Story Tower
516 Tower Units
576 Total Units
300,300 Square Foot Tower
6000 Square Feet of Retail

I guess I am a little confused on this so help me out. 576 total units, 516 tower units. So there are going to 60 units not in the tall tower but in one or both of the other two towers. Those buildings are a lot bigger than 60 units (30 each). Are we led to believe the rest would be for office or maybe hotel use?

I really can't wait for the new CC hotel to be built so the CCC can be torn down and a new tower put there. It leaves such a huge gap in our skyline.

Who is the developer that's trying to drum up interest by releasing these images?

Who is the developer that's trying to drum up interest by releasing these images?

Bricktown - Humphreys & Partners Architects. L.P. - Humphreys & Partners Architects. L.P. (http://www.humphreys.com/portfolio/bricktown/)

Wonder why it's labeled "Bricktown, Canada" on their site?

I asked the same question earlier; it was likely a typo.

Bricktown - Humphreys & Partners Architects. L.P. - Humphreys & Partners Architects. L.P. (http://www.humphreys.com/portfolio/bricktown/)

My bad. I took Pete's post to mean that there was a separate developer trying to secure that land by using renderings from Humphreys & Partners. I didn't realize they were the developer, if that makes sense.

My bad. I took Pete's post to mean that there was a separate developer trying to secure that land by using renderings from Humphreys & Partners. I didn't realize they were the developer, if that makes sense.

I'm sure the architecture firm is not the developer.

See this thread for speculation about a potential purchaser / developer for this site:

http://www.okctalk.com/general-real-estate-topics/36698-okc-mid-rise-appartment-llc.html

See this thread for speculation about a potential purchaser / developer for this site:

http://www.okctalk.com/general-real-estate-topics/36698-okc-mid-rise-appartment-llc.html

Sounds like BoomerThunder1 knows something....

BoomerThunder seems to have knowledge of this. He/she mentioned earlier in this thread its closing in September and in the OKC Mid-Rise thread said there's serious interest in this property.

These conceptual renderings > Stage Center conceptual renderings

These conceptual renderings > Stage Center conceptual renderings

These conceptual renderings should go on the SC site, just reconfigure the towers a bit.

These conceptual renderings > Stage Center conceptual renderings

this.

These conceptual renderings should go on the SC site, just reconfigure the towers a bit.

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These conceptual renderings should go on the SC site, just reconfigure the towers a bit.

I agree with this. Or at least, somewhere in the area. I absolutely love the design of this building. It's just hard for me to imagine the location. How walkable and accessible will this be? Does it rely too much on the Boulevard being a retail / residential hub?

It will have streetcar access, but it will be at least two long blocks to a stop. To me, this would work better on the SW side of the CBD, near Myriad Gardens or even the new Convention Center on Reno.

This all may be premature of course.

EDIT: Rethinking this already. It would be awesome access to Bricktown and entertainment, and a short walk to the new park.

I agree with this. Or at least, somewhere in the area. I absolutely love the design of this building. It's just hard for me to imagine the location. How walkable and accessible will this be? Does it rely too much on the Boulevard being a retail / residential hub?

It will have streetcar access, but it will be at least two long blocks to a stop. To me, this would work better on the SW side of the CBD, near Myriad Gardens or even the new Convention Center on Reno.

This all may be premature of course.

A development like this anywhere in OKC will be amazing and unprecedented. While it would be nice if the Stage Center site development would have been to this standard, I think the Lumber Yard location is great because it will help kickstart boulevard development. And this may not be a popular opinion but it will make the co-op more attractive to a potential buyer. If they are going to be moved by 2019 anyways, I don't see anything wrong with hoping for that. I can also see Lower Bricktown parking lots also being developed.

A development like this anywhere in OKC will be amazing and unprecedented. While it would be nice if the Stage Center site development would have been to this standard, I think the Lumber Yard location is great because it will help kickstart boulevard development. And this may not be a popular opinion but it will make the co-op more attractive to a potential buyer. If they are going to be moved by 2019 anyways, I don't see anything wrong with hoping for that. I can also see Lower Bricktown parking lots also being developed.agreed and it should help the coop site a bit.

Those renderings remind me of the many residential towers going up in Chicago. Really love the architecture on this.

agreed and it should help the coop site a bit.

I said basically the same thing in post #56...but whatevs, lol.

I guess I am a little confused on this so help me out. 576 total units, 516 tower units. So there are going to 60 units not in the tall tower but in one or both of the other two towers. Those buildings are a lot bigger than 60 units (30 each). Are we led to believe the rest would be for office or maybe hotel use?

My perception of this is that the two satellite buildings would contain a mix of office and residential perhaps? That could explain the 60 units. Maybe there would only be residences on the upper floors.

I said basically the same thing in post #56...but whatevs, lol.yeah, I know my bad... there has been a couple things repeated in this thread :p

My perception of this is that the two satellite buildings would contain a mix of office and residential perhaps? That could explain the 60 units. Maybe there would only be residences on the upper floors.

There are two pools, one on the site of the tall tower and one on the site to the east. I would think there would be residences or perhaps a hotel in one of the smaller towers in order for the renderings to have a pool there. Of course one of the pools is in between the two smaller towers so maybe residences in both (upper floors) and offices (lower floors). I would love to see condos on the top of both with a hotel on the lower floors of one and offices on the lower floors of the other.

I would bet that all 3 towers will be residential to the count of 516 units. 60 additional unit would be built into the podium structure. Ie not tower units.

I would bet that all 3 towers will be residential to the count of 516 units. 60 additional unit would be built into the podium structure. Ie not tower units.

This seems right.

yeah, I know my bad... there has been a couple things repeated in this thread :p

Actually, I was referring to what bchris said ;-)

I would bet that all 3 towers will be residential to the count of 516 units. 60 additional unit would be built into the podium structure. Ie not tower units.

I would think the podium structure would be mostly a parking garage with some amenities down there.

A lot of people like the Co-op where it's at and whether you like it or not, it's an integral part of OKC's downtown history. Some take offense to the idea that it should go away, but as downtown becomes a more attractive place to invest and land values increase its inevitable.

Actually, I was referring to what bchris said ;-)ah, gotcha

A lot of people like the Co-op where it's at and whether you like it or not, it's an integral part of OKC's downtown history. Some take offense to the idea that it should go away, but as downtown becomes a more attractive place to invest and land values increase its inevitable.At this point, with all the vacant land downtown, we need to encourage more density, so the COOP really shouldn't be a primary concern getting it developed right now. It is currently being occupied and contributing jobs and money, so I say lets develop efficiently and not spread out all over the place. Once land starts becoming scarce, then we jump on things like this.

I don't think the construction of this would necessarily force the sale of the Co Op. In Chicago, there are plenty of brand new towers that are next to some horrific brownfield sites. People pay for location. This has a great location.

At this point, with all the vacant land downtown, we need to encourage more density, so the COOP really shouldn't be a primary concern getting it developed right now. It is currently being occupied and contributing jobs and money, so I say lets develop efficiently and not spread out all over the place. Once land starts becoming scarce, then we jump on things like this.

I know downtown still has a absence of structures but 'available land' isn't a numerous as it appears. Nearly every vacant lot is in some stage of development, even if it is just land assembly at this point. 5 years from now we are going to be sitting around wondering what happened to all the grass.

I know downtown still has a absence of structures but 'available land' isn't a numerous as it appears. Nearly every vacant lot is in some stage of development, even if it is just land assembly at this point. 5 years from now we are going to be sitting around wondering what happened to all the grass.I agree. As much as I like this tower and want downtown to become larger, I just hope we don't end up with a sprawled out skyline. I like tall dense skylines.

The 360 Condo tower in Austin is 472 feet (not including the spire) and is 44 floors. I imagine this would be a similar height.

I agree. As much as I like this tower and want downtown to become larger, I just hope we don't end up with a sprawled out skyline. I like tall dense skylines.

I prefer my towers dense as well. Interesting to note is that these 3 towers use the Vancouver model as their base design - tall narrow towers placed on block size podiums wrapped with residential and retail. This creates great street-level interaction and street wall, but allows ample sunlight to reach the ground.

http://places.designobserver.com/media/pdf/New_Urbanism:__647.pdf

I prefer dense skylines as well, but I would take a sprawled out skyline over no development at all. Atlanta's downtown is kind of sprawled out and I really like its feel.

The 360 Condo tower in Austin is 472 feet (not including the spire) and is 44 floors. I imagine this would be a similar height.Yeah, if I recall right, residential has lower ceiling height than commercial, I could be wrong on that though.

I prefer dense skylines as well, but I would take a sprawled out skyline over no development at all. Atlanta's downtown is kind of sprawled out and I really like its feel.Yeah I kind of agree with you as well. I would take a sprawled out skyline as long as it doesn't get too bad.

I prefer my towers dense as well. Interesting to note is that these 3 towers use the Vancouver model as their base design - tall narrow towers placed on block size podiums wrapped with residential and retail. This creates great street-level interaction and street wall, but allows ample sunlight to reach the ground.

http://places.designobserver.com/media/pdf/New_Urbanism:__647.pdfnice! Vancouver is such an awesome city, I really hope to visit soon.

Yeah, if I recall right, residential has lower ceiling height than commercial, I could be wrong on that though.

Correct.

Come on down, just let me know if you need any advice around the area.

Can I take you up on that offer too? I am going to try and do the same this summer.