I am cornholio!

This is the game Hunter meant:


http://wutcana.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/cornhole.jpg

Did you have safe search on while Googling corn hole, Pete? :D

I had the same reaction the first time someone (in Oklahoma) said to me, let's play corn hole. I just always called it bean bag toss...

I've always called it "bags."

I spent the summer of 2003 in Cincinnati. While I was there I learned that everyone and their dog played "Corn Hole". They had Corn Hole leagues, tournaments and even designated areas in parks for the game.

When I came back home I tried to find it but no one knew what I was talking about. I am not saying it's called Corn Hole for sure, but that's what I go by since they had it before us.

OKC may increase food truck fees.

Oklahoma City proposes to increase food truck fees | NewsOK.com (http://m.newsok.com/oklahoma-city-proposes-to-increase-food-truck-fees/article/5102621)

OKC may increase food truck fees.

Oklahoma City proposes to increase food truck fees | NewsOK.com (http://m.newsok.com/oklahoma-city-proposes-to-increase-food-truck-fees/article/5102621)

$35 up to $100. Chump change considering the money those food trucks are raking in!

Personally I wish they'd bring back yard darts. WAY more fun than corn hole, with the side benefit of occasionally thinning of the herd at the shallow end of the gene pool.

Really? A health inspector comes out to each truck every time they're at an event?

So at the Bleu Garten, there is going to have to be a health inspector there nightly?

$35 up to $100. Chump change considering the money those food trucks are raking in!

I think the $250 annual fee for unlimited events is very fair. I think most trucks will take that over any other fee. Although I would say that not all of the area food trucks rake in the money daily. Some have their off days. Just like any business might.

Personally I wish they'd bring back yard darts. WAY more fun than corn hole, with the side benefit of occasionally thinning of the herd at the shallow end of the gene pool.

YES to yard darts!!!. loved those!.. and yes thinning of the herd is not a bad thing. our society as grown ignorant due to warning labels.. if you don't know better than to put a fork in a toaster or dry your hair in the tub.. well you might need thinning.. kidding sorta

As excited as I am about Bleu Garten, the best thing to come out of this thread is that I searched online and found that yard darts are currently being manufactured/sold under a loophole in the law that (much like some illegal guns) allows them to be sold as PARTS. So, you buy the fins, an separately you buy the metal dart, then...presto! You have yard darts! Gonna buy some BRB.

As excited as I am about Blue Garten, the best thing to come out of this thread is that I searched online and found that yard darts are currently being manufactured/sold under a loophole in the law that (much like some illegal guns) allows them to be sold as PARTS. So, you buy the fins, an separately you buy the metal dart, then...presto! You have yard darts! Gonna buy some BRB.

For real!.. that is awesome.. gonna search for them myself!

HWheat, I apologize if this is such a basic question, but how is Bleu Garten going to make money to pay for leasing the property and all the improvements done? Will there be a charge to get in? Will the food trucks be charged to operate there?

I have wondered the same thing.. I assumed most likely there was a contract with the trucks for a fee or % especially since he is providing their electricity. then he also gets the bar sales.

I'll be interested in hearing his reply, but guessing that his business model is based on bar sales, cheap rent (the developer sees it as an amenity for his residents and a moveable placeholder for future development), and PERHAPS some percentage rent from food trucks. At least, that is the model I would pursue. Flat rent on food truck spaces might have a chilling effect on trucks locating there, and percentage rent would be an incentive for both the trucks AND Bleu Garten. A high tide floats all boats.

If someone had thought of this concept back in the late 60's or early 70's a lot of the old Drive-In Movie Theaters might still be around. Or at least a couple of them.

Man, that is a great idea...drive-ins with a bar and food trucks. It seems like I remember reading about a similar concept a while back. Surely someone is doing this.

HWheat, I apologize if this is such a basic question, but how is Bleu Garten going to make money to pay for leasing the property and all the improvements done? Will there be a charge to get in? Will the food trucks be charged to operate there?

At any food truck park (and most organized events) they charge a flat fee per day then a percentage of revenues.

Obviously, there is a balance to strike because as the park/event operator you want the trucks to make money and continue to come back.

Food truck parks also typically provide free utilities.

^^^^
Thanks Pete. Is Bleu Garten going to operate the bar or is there going to be an outside operator?

Bleu Garten will have their own full bar.

That answers the revenue question...

That was my point. Whether or not they charge food trucks for spot rental is probably going to be relatively inconsequential to the revenue generated by the bar, from which they receive all of the profit. I'm sure they will be keeping charges to the food trucks at a low enough level so as to not discourage participation. The trucks drive the bar's business (and vice versa, of course).

HWheat, I apologize if this is such a basic question, but how is Bleu Garten going to make money to pay for leasing the property and all the improvements done? Will there be a charge to get in? Will the food trucks be charged to operate there?
Hey guy's, all of our profit is driven by the bar. The food trucks will be charged on an incentive base, so all the way down to 5% with no upfront cost. We set out to be the cheapest food truck park for food trucks and believe that we have. We have to take a % of gross sales to show a partnership for state reasons.
There will be no charge to the patron to enter. During later hours and movie nights it will be 21 and up. fully uniformed officers will be security during the weekends.

The slots that we are going to offer is Lunch, Dinner, and late night on the weekends.

So on Saturday we will allow up to 6 trucks to book a lunch slot, dinner slot, and will only have 2 slots open for late night. A truck can book as many or little slots as are available.
On the week days we will be booking 1-4 trucks depending on the amount of turnover we are anticipating.

The goal is to set the Mobil chefs up as best we can to make a decent amount of money so that they can scale their vision and take part in the culinary Renaissance.

To the drive in movie idea, we will have a large projector on the south end. If anyone has a movie they want on our list, we would love to hear them!

Chef (2014) - IMDb (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2883512/)

Hey guy's, all of our profit is driven by the bar. The food trucks will be charged on an incentive base, so all the way down to 5% with no upfront cost. We set out to be the cheapest food truck park for food trucks and believe that we have. We have to take a % of gross sales to show a partnership for state reasons.
There will be no charge to the patron to enter. During later hours and movie nights it will be 21 and up. fully uniformed officers will be security during the weekends.

The slots that we are going to offer is Lunch, Dinner, and late night on the weekends.

So on Saturday we will allow up to 6 trucks to book a lunch slot, dinner slot, and will only have 2 slots open for late night. A truck can book as many or little slots as are available.
On the week days we will be booking 1-4 trucks depending on the amount of turnover we are anticipating.

The goal is to set the Mobil chefs up as best we can to make a decent amount of money so that they can scale their vision and take part in the culinary Renaissance.

To the drive in movie idea, we will have a large projector on the south end. If anyone has a movie they want on our list, we would love to hear them!

Gotcha, thanks for the response and I apologize for my relatively elementary question. Look forward to this fall!

Man, that is a great idea...drive-ins with a bar and food trucks. It seems like I remember reading about a similar concept a while back. Surely someone is doing this.

Yes, this concept is already in Ft. Worth. Home | Coyote Drive-In (http://coyotedrive-in.com/). I posted this once before in the Downtown Airpark thread because I thought it would be a great fit there.

Yes, this concept is already in Ft. Worth. Home | Coyote Drive-In (http://coyotedrive-in.com/). I posted this once before in the Downtown Airpark thread because I thought it would be a great fit there.
That must be where I read it! Man, those sure are some Bigass fans under that shelter.

Hey guy's, all of our profit is driven by the bar. The food trucks will be charged on an incentive base, so all the way down to 5% with no upfront cost. We set out to be the cheapest food truck park for food trucks and believe that we have. We have to take a % of gross sales to show a partnership for state reasons.
There will be no charge to the patron to enter. During later hours and movie nights it will be 21 and up. fully uniformed officers will be security during the weekends.

The slots that we are going to offer is Lunch, Dinner, and late night on the weekends.

So on Saturday we will allow up to 6 trucks to book a lunch slot, dinner slot, and will only have 2 slots open for late night. A truck can book as many or little slots as are available.
On the week days we will be booking 1-4 trucks depending on the amount of turnover we are anticipating.

The goal is to set the Mobil chefs up as best we can to make a decent amount of money so that they can scale their vision and take part in the culinary Renaissance.

To the drive in movie idea, we will have a large projector on the south end. If anyone has a movie they want on our list, we would love to hear them!

You obviously know more about demand than I do, but do you think two slots will be enough for the late night crowd when the only other somewhat nearby options are Taco Bell, McDonalds, Bobo's and two restaurants in Bricktown? My friends and I are constantly looking for late night dining spots down here and inevitably end up waiting in the long drive through lines of the uptown T Bell for food that is barely worth the hungover shame that ensues the next morning for eating it.

We can't be the only ones that have dealt with these horrible first world problems. I think you'll have quite a late night crowd on Friday and Saturday.


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You obviously know more about demand than I do, but do you think two slots will be enough for the late night crowd when the only other somewhat nearby options are Taco Bell, McDonalds, Bobo's and two restaurants in Bricktown? My friends and I are constantly looking for late night dining spots down here and inevitably end up waiting in the long drive through lines of the uptown T Bell for food that is barely worth the hungover shame that ensues the next morning for eating it.

We can't be the only ones that have dealt with these horrible first world problems. I think you'll have quite a late night crowd on Friday and Saturday.


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nothing is set in stone. If the late night crowd will be enough of a demand for more food trucks than we will invite more to join. A lot of food truck probobly wont want to stay out that late with a lot of competition.

nothing is set in stone. If the late night crowd will be enough of a demand for more food trucks than we will invite more to join. A lot of food truck probobly wont want to stay out that late with a lot of competition.

If you have food trucks competing for the same time period how do you decide who gets it?

If you have food trucks competing for the same time period how do you decide who gets it?
We will just be making sure there is a variety. So on a day that we have 6 food trucks we will try to keep food truck space different than the other one.

nothing is set in stone. If the late night crowd will be enough of a demand for more food trucks than we will invite more to join. A lot of food truck probobly wont want to stay out that late with a lot of competition.

Ah, thought that might be the case. Thanks for the response, we're all looking forward to this!

How many food trucks will be at Bleu Garten each night? Will they rotate during the night? Will the food trucks be charged each night/hour?

How many food trucks will be at Bleu Garten each night? Will they rotate during the night? Will the food trucks be charged each night/hour?

Just read back a few posts.

Hey guy's, all of our profit is driven by the bar. The food trucks will be charged on an incentive base, so all the way down to 5% with no upfront cost. We set out to be the cheapest food truck park for food trucks and believe that we have. We have to take a % of gross sales to show a partnership for state reasons.
There will be no charge to the patron to enter. During later hours and movie nights it will be 21 and up. fully uniformed officers will be security during the weekends.

The slots that we are going to offer is Lunch, Dinner, and late night on the weekends.

So on Saturday we will allow up to 6 trucks to book a lunch slot, dinner slot, and will only have 2 slots open for late night. A truck can book as many or little slots as are available.
On the week days we will be booking 1-4 trucks depending on the amount of turnover we are anticipating.

The goal is to set the Mobil chefs up as best we can to make a decent amount of money so that they can scale their vision and take part in the culinary Renaissance.

To the drive in movie idea, we will have a large projector on the south end. If anyone has a movie they want on our list, we would love to hear them!


Showing older movies. Classic movies that have a large fanbase is the way to go. I went to Tinseltown to see The Big Lebowski on Sunday and it was a full house. Very few seats open. And every person that came in looked around the corner and had the same though(I thought it would be empty) but it was packed.

I could see movies like that
Anchorman
Goonies
Shawshank Redemption.......

Self-contained bar going in today (photo courtesy HWheat):


http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/bg081114.jpg

I may need to order one of those for the backyard. My very own "Bar Pod"!

You can see how the bar and restroom module are pretty indestructible and portable.

If MidTownR decides they want to develop this property at the end of Bleu Garten's 3-year lease, they can relocate BG to another property in the area.

That is fantastic. Having been involved in the construction of an outdoor bar I can tell you it isn't easy to satisfy building and health codes. This makes it seem like cake.

Lookin good guys. Will have to stop by there here in the next few months.

They are moving fast now. This is the covered seating area (from https://twitter.com/truckitokc):

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BvFUyiRIMAAJpCT.jpg

They have made a ton of progress in the last few days. I would think it will not be much longer.

From Twitter (https://twitter.com/BleuGarten/status/501394371766669313):


New sign is up! truckitokc Instagram (http://instagram.com/p/r2Fm93mv2Z/)

http://photos-d.ak.instagram.com/hphotos-ak-xfp1/891468_1451355871806003_283131477_n.jpg

I thought you people hated billboards lol!

*insert appropriate "What do you mean, you people?" image here*

Man, I tried to make a modular(shipping container based) bathroom and was told by the city there was no way no how to get a bldg permit. I guess the trick is that since it's it's pre-fabricated off-site so...you don't need a permit? But the water/sewer/electric? How do you pull major sub contracts?

I'm happy in the end with a detached stick building for heating, cooling, slab and plumbing purposes. But I'd love to know how you got the city to permit it. No one ever wants to set precedent. Especially committee; was this urban design overlay?

^

This project fell under the purview of the Downtown Design Review Committee, which is a different body than the Urban Design Commission for Uptown.

However, the building codes are the same.

Hunter just told me they are still on track to open on Sept. 20th. Hopefully, that holds.

Also, the very popular 6 Degrees of Bacon is happening October 16th in the parking lot behind Midtown Vets and Bleu Garten will host the after party.

6 Degrees of Bacon | DowntownOKC (http://downtownokc.com/6-degrees-bacon)


Once this is open along with Fassler Hall / Dust Bowl, I think Midtown will have reached critical mass. Much more to come of course, but it's pretty clear the ball is rolling downhill now and it seems to be picking up pace.

If Midtown Renaissance develops the lot just east of GoGo Sushi, that will mean 10th will be pretty well filled in all the way from Classen to I-235. There is going to be great synergy all along there, with plenty of residential units, offices and other businesses all feeding into this strip.

The next two big bridges that need to be filled in are between 10th and lower Auto Alley & Deep Deuce and 10th and the CBD. It's happening, but still some pretty good gaps in there that still cause people to see these areas as completely separate. The streetcar will certainly accelerate the needed infill.

Gravel has gone down; they are hoping to get their certificate of occupancy next week:

http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/bg083014.jpg

Is that a tether tire pole in the middle of that picture? That could be an interesting game to pass the time. :wink:

Gas line for the fire pit?

Gas line for the fire pit?
Low voltage for speakers. We do have a fire pit gas line that is right of the shot.

Hunter just told me they are now shooting for a 9/27 opening date.

Here are some recent photos... Love the cocktails painted on the table tops and giant Jenga:



http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/bg091114a.jpg


http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/bg091114b.jpg


http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/bg091114c.jpg

I know they have talked about possibly showing movies, but are there any plans to show football, basketball games, etc.? I think this would be an awesome setting with college football heating up.

Looks like they are pretty much finished; just waiting on final permits (thanks Will!):


http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/bg091614.jpg

Looks like they are pretty much finished; just waiting on final permits (thanks Will!):


http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/bg091614.jpg

Does something like Bleu Garten have to get an occupancy permit since it is technically an outdoor space?

Does something like Bleu Garten have to get an occupancy permit since it is technically an outdoor space?

I'm sure they have to get an occupancy permit but they also have to final inspections for plumbing, electrical and the like.

I believe they had to run an additional water line and that's why they won't open until next week.

I wonder how busy this place will be on a consistent basis?

I really like the whole food truck deal but H&8th has gotten a bit too large.