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HWheat
03-18-2014, 06:56 PM
Thanks! My bad. It's easy to forget to check the article, which usually has a ton of information.

Do you have any other questions?


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Chadanth
03-18-2014, 06:57 PM
Do you have any other questions?


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Is there any way you can get this open by mid-April? Ha!

HWheat
03-18-2014, 07:03 PM
Good idea.

I love dogs more than anyone but there are lots of people who don't and there are unfortunately a bunch of idiot dog owners.

It's something I have noticed at every food truck park we have been to. I have never seen more than 2 dogs at a park per time. We are dog fans and would love to see this work. As you said though, sometimes people don't handle dogs well.

I do like your idea of have designated times.

We definitely want to help animal shelter organizations with adaption days!


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Chadanth
03-18-2014, 07:04 PM
It's something I have noticed at every food truck park we have been to. I have never seen more than 2 dogs at a park per time. We are dog fans and would love to see this work. As you said though, sometimes people don't handle dogs well.

I do like your idea of have designated times.

We definitely want to help animal shelter organizations with adaption days!


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That would be HUGE. Central OK Humane draws people for their events. Win.

Pete
03-18-2014, 07:08 PM
Could you tell us more about ideas to integrate music, art, movies and possibly some retail?

HWheat
03-18-2014, 07:12 PM
That would be HUGE. Central OK Humane draws people for their events. Win.

I think it would be great victory for us to help out organizations like that. My ONLY worry is that one day I will come home to 20 dogs. :)


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HWheat
03-18-2014, 08:09 PM
Could you tell us more about ideas to integrate music, art, movies and possibly some retail?

Absolutely!

We are looking into getting the same speakers as the Myriad Gardens use for their summer concerts. Kenny Phillips, who operates those concerts along with the OKC Arts Festival, and OKC NYE event, played two of his speakers at a low audible. The result was great, the sound carries extremely well without having to blare the music. This is important because as an outdoor venue, we absolutely do not want to disturb local residents. We are also providing the trucks with electricity, which will cut down the truck noise dramatically. This venue is not a bar where we will be blaring music, but for community congregation.

On Mondays we want to cut down to 2 food trucks, and project cult classic movies. Where else can you watch one of your favorite movies, outside, with food from a gourmet truck and local brew-with downtown OKC as the backdrop.

We have examples on our Instagram. It is possible to project in daylight. We will be projecting the weekend sports games. We will also have a few TVs.

I have met with some operators of IAO, about displaying local art. My sister Summer Wheat is an artist, so it's important to me to display art and help feed the local starving artist. We will be working alongside artist and Allison Baily with the pop up shop "igloos". Inviting them to come in on Saturdays for a kind of market place. If you are an entrepreneur, we may be able to help.

I would like to have fundraising events for children organizations. At certain places in the city you can find little league teams pan handling for money. I applaud the effort, I know if I had kids I would do anything to make sure they had experiences. What I want to do is, invite these groups in and teach basic entrepreneurial skills to the next generation.

Since we are surrounded by the downtown working force, we want to help with their wellness. We are currently looking for some wellness trainers that want to be entrepreneurs. We thought it would be cool to have early morning yoga. It's a location that would make for ideal sunrise yoga in the summer. Maybe even a Spin Truck. Imagine a truck filled with spin cycles that could be taken out to hold an outdoor spin class. That idea may be attractive to food trucks like Mariposa Coffee.

We have a few ideas we are keeping in our cap so that we can surprise our patrons. It's a space that can be morphed into so many community building operations. I have really come to love OKC talk BC it's a community rich with ideas. So please share with Bleu Garten, we want you to have a part in our DNA.


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Teo9969
03-18-2014, 08:17 PM
Would be a great spot for a poker tournament every 2 or 3 months ;-)

dankrutka
03-18-2014, 08:23 PM
I was just telling someone that the Bricktown Bike Bar should be used for morning spin classes. That would be a great place for them to meet.

Those are a bunch of great ideas for this space. I'm even more impressed.

HWheat
03-18-2014, 08:28 PM
Would be a great spot for a poker tournament every 2 or 3 months ;-)

Ha I would love that, but can't break the law.

We do want to have an outdoor ping pong table, chess boards, and giant jinga! Anything else that you think would be fun to play?


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Chadanth
03-18-2014, 08:30 PM
Would be a great spot for a poker tournament every 2 or 3 months ;-)

Or weekly.

Chadanth
03-18-2014, 08:31 PM
Absolutely!

We are looking into getting the same speakers as the Myriad Gardens use for their summer concerts. Kenny Phillips, who operates those concerts along with the OKC Arts Festival, and OKC NYE event, played two of his speakers at a low audible. The result was great, the sound carries extremely well without having to blare the music. This is important because as an outdoor venue, we absolutely do not want to disturb local residents. We are also providing the trucks with electricity, which will cut down the truck noise dramatically. This venue is not a bar where we will be blaring music, but for community congregation.

On Mondays we want to cut down to 2 food trucks, and project cult classic movies. Where else can you watch one of your favorite movies, outside, with food from a gourmet truck and local brew-with downtown OKC as the backdrop.

We have examples on our Instagram. It is possible to project in daylight. We will be projecting the weekend sports games. We will also have a few TVs.

I have met with some operators of IAO, about displaying local art. My sister Summer Wheat is an artist, so it's important to me to display art and help feed the local starving artist. We will be working alongside artist and Allison Baily with the pop up shop "igloos". Inviting them to come in on Saturdays for a kind of market place. If you are an entrepreneur, we may be able to help.

I would like to have fundraising events for children organizations. At certain places in the city you can find little league teams pan handling for money. I applaud the effort, I know if I had kids I would do anything to make sure they had experiences. What I want to do is, invite these groups in and teach basic entrepreneurial skills to the next generation.

Since we are surrounded by the downtown working force, we want to help with their wellness. We are currently looking for some wellness trainers that want to be entrepreneurs. We thought it would be cool to have early morning yoga. It's a location that would make for ideal sunrise yoga in the summer. Maybe even a Spin Truck. Imagine a truck filled with spin cycles that could be taken out to hold an outdoor spin class. That idea may be attractive to food trucks like Mariposa Coffee.

We have a few ideas we are keeping in our cap so that we can surprise our patrons. It's a space that can be morphed into so many community building operations. I have really come to love OKC talk BC it's a community rich with ideas. So please share with Bleu Garten, we want you to have a part in our DNA.


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I really appreciate your vision, and look forward to seeing come to fruition. Kudos.

jrod
03-18-2014, 08:35 PM
Food truck/local brewery dinner. Each truck produces a course, paired with the brewery's beers. My wife and I went to a couple events like this in Cleveland that were amazing.

HWheat
03-18-2014, 08:39 PM
I was just telling someone that the Bricktown Bike Bar should be used for morning spin classes. That would be a great place for them to meet.

Those are a bunch of great ideas for this space. I'm even more impressed.

Absolutely! We would do it ourselves, but part of the concept is to leave OKC with multiple thriving local businesses. We want our thumbprint to have part in the eccentric OKC future. Allowing locals a launching pad for their dream. Maybe even helping a dream become conscious. Sounds corny, but we believe in it.


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HWheat
03-18-2014, 08:40 PM
Food truck/local brewery dinner. Each truck produces a course, paired with the brewery's beers. My wife and I went to a couple events like this in Cleveland that were amazing.

Already ahead of you! Mustang Brewery discussed this idea with us! We are going to be reaching out to other local brewery's as well.




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Chadanth
03-18-2014, 08:40 PM
Food truck/local brewery dinner. Each truck produces a course, paired with the brewery's beers. My wife and I went to a couple events like this in Cleveland that were amazing.

Great Lakes BC brewmaster dinner??

HWheat
03-18-2014, 08:41 PM
I really appreciate your vision, and look forward to seeing come to fruition. Kudos.

Thank you very much. It's been a ton of work, and a hell of a gamble. It's all up to Downtown Design Review Committee now.


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Chadanth
03-18-2014, 08:48 PM
Thank you very much. It's been a ton of work, and a hell of a gamble. It's all up to Downtown Design Review Committee now.


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I know as am entrepreneur it feels like a gamble, but i cannot for the life of me imagine this not being financially viable. The winter will be tough, but you have a great concept and a great location. The city could use more people with your outlook. Best of luck, see you this summer!

Pete
03-18-2014, 09:07 PM
Regarding the winter months, I've heard the Holiday Pop-up Shops will be moving to the lot directly west of Bleu Garten and that MidtownR has purchased a huge Christmas tree that will be featured there.

So, you get a real synergy between this project and the shops and at the same time create more opportunities for fall and winter events.

And remember, 1101 and 1100 N. Broadway will both bring a lot more office workers to the area when they are leased out in the very near future.


Really, this couldn't be in a better location.

Chadanth
03-18-2014, 09:18 PM
Regarding the winter months, I've heard the Holiday Pop-up Shops will be moving to the lot directly west of Bleu Garten and that MidtownR has purchased a huge Christmas tree that will be featured there.

So, you get a real synergy between this project and the shops and at the same time create more opportunities for fall and winter events.

And remember, 1101 and 1100 N. Broadway will both bring a lot more office workers to the area when they are leased out in the very near future.


Really, this couldn't be in a better location.

That'll be a better location for the pop ups. 10th street is getting good!

Teo9969
03-18-2014, 09:45 PM
Ha I would love that, but can't break the law.

We do want to have an outdoor ping pong table, chess boards, and giant jinga! Anything else that you think would be fun to play?


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I'm sure there's a way to make it fun and well within legal boundaries.

Prizes, Entrance fees (that give vouchers for food).

shawnw
03-18-2014, 10:22 PM
Don't forget the law school. Those kids will definitely be walking here at lunch.

HWheat
03-18-2014, 10:58 PM
I'm sure there's a way to make it fun and well within legal boundaries.

Prizes, Entrance fees (that give vouchers for food).

That's an idea we can play with. I know it's something we would have to get full written permission from the city.

At the very least we can make Rounders one of the summer movies!?

What are the too films that would make for the perfect summer.

We were thinking some Wes Anderson films, Rounders, The Big Lebowski, Blues Brothers, Office Space, Animal House, Pulp Fiction- any suggestions?

One thing we are wanting to do. When I was in Portland Oregon, they had something called The Lebowski March. We were thinking of having a Lebowski pub crawl! It's where participating bars give specials to patrons dressed as a Lebowski characters. In the end the patron ends the night at Bleu Garten for a screening of The Big Lebowski and a White Russian.

We could do this theme with a ton of cult classics.


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Teo9969
03-19-2014, 08:01 AM
That's an idea we can play with. I know it's something we would have to get full written permission from the city.

At the very least we can make Rounders one of the summer movies!?

What are the too films that would make for the perfect summer.

We were thinking some Wes Anderson films, Rounders, The Big Lebowski, Blues Brothers, Office Space, Animal House, Pulp Fiction- any suggestions?

One thing we are wanting to do. When I was in Portland Oregon, they had something called The Lebowski March. We were thinking of having a Lebowski pub crawl! It's where participating bars give specials to patrons dressed as a Lebowski characters. In the end the patron ends the night at Bleu Garten for a screening of The Big Lebowski and a White Russian.

We could do this theme with a ton of cult classics.


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Is this a 21+ venue? If not, I would suspect it would be far more difficult to get permission to show an R-rated movie than host a faux-poker tournament. Not that either one would be impossible, but God help your soul if the wrong person walked in during a showing of Rounder's.

Clerks!!!! What a great movie to watch while sitting there talking to your friends.

Pete
03-19-2014, 08:21 AM
You can always get the edited version of any R-rated movie.


Also, what about smoking? Since this will be largely outdoors it probably will be allowed but here's a vote for making the whole venue smoke-free.

HWheat
03-19-2014, 08:56 AM
Our movies will be 21+ since we will be serving alcohol. The worry is teens sitting in the dark bringing in their own alcohol.

Public safety always falls in our #1 priority.

Starting around 9 pm every night Bleu Garten will be 21+.

This does not mean it's a party, it's just a way to control the safety.

As far as smoking, we are still debating.


"We believe that business is good because it creates value, it is ethical because it is based on voluntary exchange, it is noble because it can elevate our existence and it is heroic because it lifts people out of poverty and creates prosperity. Free enterprise capitalism is the most powerful system for social cooperation and human progress ever conceived. It is one of the most compelling ideas we humans have ever had. But we can aspire to even more."- John Mackey

warreng88
03-19-2014, 09:09 AM
Depending on what area around it you can enter onto, I would definitely recommend no smoking then have an area outside of the gates to the north or west for people to smoke. Is there going to be dedicated parking for this to start or is it just find a spot and walk down?

dankrutka
03-19-2014, 10:01 AM
My "vote": No smoking.

Bellaboo
03-19-2014, 10:19 AM
Ditto ^^^

catcherinthewry
03-19-2014, 10:21 AM
No smoking, please.

warreng88
03-19-2014, 10:23 AM
I would think you would upset more people having smoking allowed than if you said it was to be non-smoking. Smokers have gotten used to not being able to smoke in certain areas. I really hope Oklahoma moves to not allowing smoking in all restaurants and bars in the near future, but that is for another thread at another time.

HWheat
03-19-2014, 01:45 PM
I would think you would upset more people having smoking allowed than if you said it was to be non-smoking. Smokers have gotten used to not being able to smoke in certain areas. I really hope Oklahoma moves to not allowing smoking in all restaurants and bars in the near future, but that is for another thread at another time.

I think you have a very valid point.



"We believe that business is good because it creates value, it is ethical because it is based on voluntary exchange, it is noble because it can elevate our existence and it is heroic because it lifts people out of poverty and creates prosperity. Free enterprise capitalism is the most powerful system for social cooperation and human progress ever conceived. It is one of the most compelling ideas we humans have ever had. But we can aspire to even more."- John Mackey

PhiAlpha
03-19-2014, 02:19 PM
I think you have a very valid point.



"We believe that business is good because it creates value, it is ethical because it is based on voluntary exchange, it is noble because it can elevate our existence and it is heroic because it lifts people out of poverty and creates prosperity. Free enterprise capitalism is the most powerful system for social cooperation and human progress ever conceived. It is one of the most compelling ideas we humans have ever had. But we can aspire to even more."- John Mackey

Not to mention that there is still going to be a massive empty lot surrounding this. I'm sure if smoking is not allowed inside, people will be able to find some where else nearby to do it.

catch22
03-19-2014, 02:30 PM
I would vote no on smoking.

Roger S
03-19-2014, 02:35 PM
I vote the only smoking allowed involves huge hunks of meat and hardwood.

Urbanized
03-19-2014, 02:37 PM
Like

HWheat
03-19-2014, 04:08 PM
I vote the only smoking allowed involves huge hunks of meat and hardwood.

I believe that everyone is right. No smoking at Bleu Garten... Unless it's meat!


"We believe that business is good because it creates value, it is ethical because it is based on voluntary exchange, it is noble because it can elevate our existence and it is heroic because it lifts people out of poverty and creates prosperity. Free enterprise capitalism is the most powerful system for social cooperation and human progress ever conceived. It is one of the most compelling ideas we humans have ever had. But we can aspire to even more."- John Mackey

warreng88
03-19-2014, 04:11 PM
I believe that everyone is right. No smoking at Bleu Garten... Unless it's meat!


"We believe that business is good because it creates value, it is ethical because it is based on voluntary exchange, it is noble because it can elevate our existence and it is heroic because it lifts people out of poverty and creates prosperity. Free enterprise capitalism is the most powerful system for social cooperation and human progress ever conceived. It is one of the most compelling ideas we humans have ever had. But we can aspire to even more."- John Mackey

Nice! I love that you are taking the input and really appreciate it. Plus, with all the motors for the food in the food trucks, there will already be plenty of polution in the area...

Teo9969
03-19-2014, 05:06 PM
Nice! I love that you are taking the input and really appreciate it. Plus, with all the motors for the food in the food trucks, there will already be plenty of polution in the area...

He's providing electric for the trucks so no motors will be running.

Urbanized
03-19-2014, 06:23 PM
Like

warreng88
03-19-2014, 07:00 PM
He's providing electric for the trucks so no motors will be running.

Didn't see that part. Thanks for the correction.

ljbab728
03-20-2014, 12:31 AM
Steve's article with a great video interview with Hunter.

Bleu Garten aspires to be Midtown, downtown community gathering spot | News OK (http://newsok.com/bleu-garten-aspires-to-be-midtown-downtown-community-gathering-spot/article/3944982)


Oklahoma City is set to see its first food truck court as one of the largest undeveloped blocks in Midtown is being prepared for a venue that will also host live music performances, movies and an outdoor bar.

Just the facts
03-20-2014, 08:05 AM
I love this idea and think it will help develop the rest of the area. As for smoking and dogs, I would rather have some stranger's dog eat right off my plate than to have someone smoke near me. If you are looking for ideas how to be dog friendly you could put a couple of poles with short leashes (4 ft. or so) attached so dog owners could 'tie' their dogs up and still eat near them. One of the challenges when walking my dog is in finding a place that is not only dog friendly but also finding a place to eat what I bought. My dog is an explorer and will investigate everything within leash distance. He's harmless but inquisitive.

As for the site plan, the only thing I don't really care for is the chain link fence (but at least it is black). This is a T5 zone (urban center zone) and it should have a T5 style fence. I would prefer a more decorative black aluminum fence.

This
http://www.greenwayfence.com/images/aluminum-fencing-header.jpg

is better than this

http://www.bydfence.com/chainLink/ALL%20BLACK%20CL%201.jpg

warreng88
03-20-2014, 04:35 PM
What are the too films that would make for the perfect summer.

We were thinking some Wes Anderson films, Rounders, The Big Lebowski, Blues Brothers, Office Space, Animal House, Pulp Fiction- any suggestions?

Princess Bride, just had to throw that one out there. Mabye Rocky Horror when it gets closer to Halloween.

shawnw
03-20-2014, 07:15 PM
Princess Bride, just had to throw that one out there. Mabye Rocky Horror when it gets closer to Halloween.

as you wish

CuatrodeMayo
03-20-2014, 07:42 PM
I'm such a moron. I kept skipping this thread thinking it was about a French restaurant I wasn't interested in.

I just saw a newsok article on this project and realized what it really was!

This project is full of win.

Motley
03-20-2014, 08:31 PM
In San Diego, smoking is not allowed in outdoor dining areas but dogs are always welcome.

catcherinthewry
03-20-2014, 10:57 PM
as you wish

Inconceivable!

Urbanized
03-20-2014, 11:15 PM
...This project is full of win.

Walkable to your office!

warreng88
03-21-2014, 09:09 AM
as you wish

Nice.

Teo9969
03-21-2014, 10:39 AM
I'm such a moron. I kept skipping this thread thinking it was about a French restaurant I wasn't interested in.

I just saw a newsok article on this project and realized what it really was!

This project is full of win.

I did that with the "Lumber Yard" one…wasn't till I saw something on Facebook.

hoya
03-23-2014, 10:03 AM
Summer movies must include One Crazy Summer.

http://pics.imcdb.org/0is120/capture012336qw7.8466.jpg

Better Off Dead would be excellent too.

HWheat
04-02-2014, 10:37 PM
I agree, that would be awesome.

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calitook
04-05-2014, 08:54 AM
There are a lot of dog-friendly places in the city! In fact, my dog writes a whole blog about it:
Ween on the Scene (http://weenonthescene.blogspot.com/)

[QUOTE=Just the facts;762215]. One of the challenges when walking my dog is in finding a place that is not only dog friendly but also finding a place to eat what I bought. My dog is an explorer and will investigate everything within leash distance. He's harmless but inquisitive.

Pete
04-05-2014, 09:21 AM
There are a lot of dog-friendly places in the city! In fact, my dog writes a whole blog about it:
Ween on the Scene (http://weenonthescene.blogspot.com/)

Great idea!

Thanks for sharing.

edcrunk
04-07-2014, 01:34 PM
Walkable to your office!
Awwww, so that was cuatro I saw walking around GoGo Sushi

Urbanized
04-07-2014, 01:36 PM
Awwww, so that was cuatro I saw walking around GoGo Sushi

I was thinking I might have seen him INSIDE GoGo today, but didn't say anything. Actually, I think I saw YOU at O Bar last week and reacted the same way.

CuatrodeMayo
04-07-2014, 01:55 PM
Wasn't me!

Urbanized
04-07-2014, 02:00 PM
Damned doppelgängers.

edcrunk
04-08-2014, 04:00 PM
It was last week sometime and I think it was around the roundabout... and yes, that was me at O Bar last monday.