Pete
11-20-2022, 09:37 AM
What's obvious is that the owners would rather not field a team and just wait for taxpayers to fund a $37 million stadium for them.
View Full Version : OKC Energy FC Pete 11-20-2022, 09:37 AM What's obvious is that the owners would rather not field a team and just wait for taxpayers to fund a $37 million stadium for them. MagzOK 11-20-2022, 09:57 AM What's obvious is that the owners would rather not field a team and just wait for taxpayers to fund a $37 million stadium for them. Agreed. It's very dirty. SEMIweather 11-20-2022, 10:24 AM Is there any way to make funding of the MAPS 4 Stadium contingent on Prodigal giving up their controlling stake in the team? I'm assuming not, but it's something I would at least like Holt and the rest of the City Council to look into. Laramie 11-20-2022, 12:23 PM Is there any way to make funding of the MAPS 4 Stadium contingent on Prodigal giving up their controlling stake in the team? I'm assuming not, but it's something I would at least like Holt and the rest of the City Council to look into. There's no way the Funks would give up their controlling interests. Oklahoma City wants this stadium as close to the core as possible which will help Bricktown Entertainment as does the NBA Thunder. We need 'Borchard' back on the discussion end of this forum. He knows the history about when we had two teams: Rayo & Energy FC. I'll see if I can contact him. I sent a message to Borchard . . . Dob Hooligan 11-20-2022, 05:15 PM I don't think this is the Funk's fault. Lemme list my points, and please correct me where I'm wrong. Energy FC is in United Soccer League Championship (USLC). It is the highest minor league in North America. Energy FC has never been controlling tenant of any stadium in OKC. USLC demands a regulation field of 110 by 70 yards and refused to extend the waiver they had previously granted to Energy FC (and possibly other teams). Oklahoma City Public Schools owns Taft Stadium and refused to remove the track in order to make the soccer field USLC compliant. USLC features 17-20 home dates a season. USLC season overlaps baseball season. Energy FC draws about 2,000 people per game. Energy FC could not get approval from Chickasaw Bricktown Ballpark operator (and OKC Dodgers owner) Endeavor Sports to use and modify their playing field and stadium during their overlapping regular seasons. Energy FC could not find a stadium in the OKC metro that could meet USLC requirements for field. seating and locker room configurations. Laramie 11-20-2022, 05:29 PM Energy FC could not get approval from Chickasaw Bricktown Ballpark operator (and OKC Dodgers owner) Endeavor Sports to use and modify their playing field and stadium during their overlapping regular seasons. Tulsa has the same issue as OKC; except they have AA and not AAA. The City of Oklahoma City owns the Ballpark. Voters approved this park and if it can be used for another sport--why not use it. City of Tulsa owns ONEOK Field which is used for USL soccer, so why can't our city make arrangements to use Bricktown Ballpark for USL soccer as well. Can you imagine a situation where our NBA Thunder franchise (Anchor tenant) would want to deny any other sports or entertainment from the use of Paycom Center. Swake 11-20-2022, 06:06 PM When FC Tulsa (then the Roughnecks) was founded in 2013 they were owned by the Drillers, so there was no conflict. When the larger field was required ONEOK Field had a hydraulic shelf installed under the pitchers mound so it could be lowered when the soccer pitch was being used. That expanded the area for the pitch and allowed the pitch to be brought up close to the stands. The Drillers sold the Roughnecks in 2019 and the new owners renamed the team FC Tulsa, but the Drillers still support the team. Laramie 11-20-2022, 08:09 PM When FC Tulsa (then the Roughnecks) was founded in 2013 they were owned by the Drillers, so there was no conflict. When the larger field was required ONEOK Field had a hydraulic shelf installed under the pitchers mound so it could be lowered when the soccer pitch was being used. That expanded the area for the pitch and allowed the pitch to be brought up close to the stands. The Drillers sold the Roughnecks in 2019 and the new owners renamed the team FC Tulsa, but the Drillers still support the team. Thank you, Swake. So the same modification with the pitcher's mound could be made with the Bricktown Ballpark. Chickasaw Bricktown Ballpark 9,000 - (13,000 tarp over right field line seating) Left field: 325 ft (99 m) Center field: 400 ft (120 m) Right field: 325 ft (99 m) Broke ground October 10, 1995 - Opened April 16, 1998 Construction cost: US$34 million - ($56.5 million in 2021 dollars OneOK Field Left field – 330 feet (101 m) Center field – 400 feet (122 m) Right field – 307 feet (94 m) Baseball 7,833, Soccer Broke ground December 19, 2008 - Opened April 8, 2010 - Construction cost: $39.2 million - ($48.7 million in 2021 dollars The two parks have similar dimensions. Funks have a track record that dates back to the IGA Tennis tournaments which we lost to Memphis once the Funks got control. jedicurt 11-20-2022, 08:15 PM Can you imagine a situation where our NBA Thunder franchise (Anchor tenant) would want to deny any other sports or entertainment from the use of Paycom Center. Yes, very easily. Dallas wanted to move their ECHL hockey team from Idaho to OKC, so that it could complete with Wichita, Tulsa, and Allen. And the thunder told the stars management group "no way". Laramie 11-20-2022, 10:34 PM Yes, very easily. Dallas wanted to move their ECHL hockey team from Idaho to OKC, so that it could complete with Wichita, Tulsa, and Allen. And the thunder told the stars management group "no way". Ice plant underneath the arena is one among several reasons. Once we build a new arena (preferable on the Prairie Surf Studios site), Paycom Center could be used for ice shows and ECHL AA Ice hockey. A new arena could be constructed for NBA Thunder basketball as the anchor tenant. Lets face it, our city WILL LOSE the Thunder if we don't go ahead and build a new arena when MAPS 4 is extended in September 2027 by voters that will go into effect for April 2028. Two year construction, OKC will have a new NBA caliber arena opening in 2030. Jersey Boss 11-21-2022, 08:07 PM Ice plant underneath the arena is one among several reasons. Once we build a new arena (preferable on the Prairie Surf Studios site), Paycom Center could be used for ice shows and ECHL AA Ice hockey. A new arena could be constructed for NBA Thunder basketball as the anchor tenant. Lets face it, our city WILL LOSE the Thunder if we don't go ahead and build a new arena when MAPS 4 is extended in September 2027 by voters that will go into effect for April 2028. Two year construction, OKC will have a new NBA caliber arena opening in 2030. Are you saying there is no ice making equipment in the PC? If there is why do the Thunder have veto power? It is common in many cities for major league basketball to share the arena with the local hockey club. This would be money going to the arena owner(Okc). April in the Plaza 11-21-2022, 09:47 PM This should be one of those times where the Maps committee / council can re-allocate funds. Might as well move the $37M to the Thunder’s new arena. Would be better spent there imo Laramie 11-21-2022, 10:56 PM There is an ice plant underneath Paycom Center. Thunder doesn't want it functioning during NBA season. Now other NBA cities have figured this out--Los Angeles (NBA Clippers, NHL Kings), Philadelphia (NBA 76ers, NHL Flyers), Dallas (NBA Mavericks, NHL Stars). Boston (NBA Celtics, NHL Bruins), Denver (NBA Nuggets, NHL Avalanche) & Chicago (NBA Bulls, NHL Blackhawks). As for veto power, I underestimated these owners who are among the riches in Oklahoma that doesn't include Harold Hamm. You can forget minor league AA hockey until 2030 or until the Thunder owners decide to let go of its grip. Jersey Boss 11-21-2022, 11:25 PM There is an ice plant underneath Paycom Center. Thunder doesn't want it functioning during NBA season. Now other NBA cities have figured this out--Los Angeles (NBA Clippers, NHL Kings), Philadelphia (NBA 76ers, NHL Flyers), Dallas (NBA Mavericks, NHL Stars). Boston (NBA Celtics, NHL Bruins), Denver (NBA Nuggets, NHL Avalanche) & Chicago (NBA Bulls, NHL Blackhawks). As for veto power, I underestimated these owners who are among the riches in Oklahoma that doesn't include Harold Hamm. You can forget minor league AA hockey until 2030 or until the Thunder owners decide to let go of its grip. My point. Earlier you posted could you believe the Thunder would deny other spoets or entertainment. It was shown they did. You provided a parial list of two sport arenas and there are more. The city needs to act like they are a landlord and charge for loss of rental fees. It is bad pr to ask for the taxpayers to fund a new arena if the city can't act like they own it. While those Thunder owners are rich so is the Clippers owner who shares the arena with not only a hockey team but the Lakers as well.OKC does not need to be subservient. They can get better terms. Swake 11-22-2022, 12:16 AM Are you saying there is no ice making equipment in the PC? If there is why do the Thunder have veto power? It is common in many cities for major league basketball to share the arena with the local hockey club. This would be money going to the arena owner(Okc). American Airlines Center: Dallas Mavericks and Dallas Stars Ball Arena: Denver Nuggets and Colorado Avalanche Capital One Arena: Washington Wizards and Washington Capitals Crypto.com Arena: Los Angeles Lakers, Los Angeles Clippers and Los Angeles Kings Little Caesars Arena: Detroit Pistons and Detroit Red Wings Madison Square Garden: New York Knicks and New York Rangers Scotiabank Arena: Toronto Raptors and Toronto Maple Leafs TD Garden: Boston Celtics and Boston Bruins United Center: Chicago Bulls and Chicago Blackhawks Wells Fargo Center: Philadelphia 76ers and Philadelphia Flyers https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/warriors/which-professional-sports-teams-share-stadiums Laramie 11-22-2022, 06:26 AM My point. Earlier you posted could you believe the Thunder would deny other spoets or entertainment. It was shown they did. You provided a parial list of two sport arenas and there are more. The city needs to act like they are a landlord and charge for loss of rental fees. It is bad pr to ask for the taxpayers to fund a new arena if the city can't act like they own it. While those Thunder owners are rich so is the Clippers owner who shares the arena with not only a hockey team but the Lakers as well.OKC does not need to be subservient. They can get better terms. The list I provided was off the top of my head, just don't have the time to do the research on all the cities that have arenas that support both NBA & NHL. Swake's list seems to be more up-to-date, we are fortunate to have him on OKCTalk as well as Tulsa Now forums. As I said, I underestimated these owners (Ref: Idaho minor league franchise): would love for OKC & TUL to renew its rivalry. Also lets not forget, the Funks' AAA Barons failure--we need Tulsa for minor league hockey to survive in OKC. We haven't heard anything on a new arena, my best guess they are still getting things together--our city leaders have a lot on their plate. When the time comes, citizens will have to decide on a new arena. Wait on the next MAPS extension or let citizens decide by a bond vote (Fastest route to building a new arena) if the city hasn't exhausted its bonded indebtedness. Oklahoma County has $288 million for new county jail and OKCPS has $955 million for replacing school infrastructure--Just don't know how both bonds will affect our city. If anyone can get this done--Mayor Holt has the knowledge and temperament on how to get this done. Jersey Boss, I've given you what I feel is my perspective on this. I'm not the expert on here or do I have any inside knowledge on what our city leaders will do. However, our mayor will be working with a group comprised of the most riches and powerful men in this state on getting a new arena financed. Let's not forget, the concern we're having on this thread (OKC Energy FC) has to do with the ownership group; if and when USL will return to our city. Personally, although it would be idea to have NBA, USL soccer and ECHL hockey, we can't get this trifecta achieved overnight. BoulderSooner 11-22-2022, 06:56 AM My point. Earlier you posted could you believe the Thunder would deny other spoets or entertainment. It was shown they did. You provided a parial list of two sport arenas and there are more. The city needs to act like they are a landlord and charge for loss of rental fees. It is bad pr to ask for the taxpayers to fund a new arena if the city can't act like they own it. While those Thunder owners are rich so is the Clippers owner who shares the arena with not only a hockey team but the Lakers as well.OKC does not need to be subservient. They can get better terms. the Thunder have acted within their lease rights ..... the Clippers are builidng a new arena as we speak .. . Rover 11-22-2022, 07:59 AM How many NBA teams share arenas with lower level hockey clubs. There’s a certain cost to support infrastructure, rapid changeover, etc. and maybe the city is not wanting to lose money. Richard at Remax 11-22-2022, 08:58 AM How many NBA teams share arenas with lower level hockey clubs. There’s a certain cost to support infrastructure, rapid changeover, etc. and maybe the city is not wanting to lose money. Im pretty sure San Antonio shares their arena with their minor hockey team. Or at least they used to when the Barons were around. jedicurt 11-22-2022, 11:22 AM How many NBA teams share arenas with lower level hockey clubs. There’s a certain cost to support infrastructure, rapid changeover, etc. and maybe the city is not wanting to lose money. Currently Cleveland is the only one that Share with an AHL team. San Antonio did until the AHL team recently moved in 2020 to Henderson Nevada. as for the ECHL (AA) Orlando currently shares with the ECHL team the Orlando Solar Bears. Jersey Boss 11-22-2022, 11:31 AM the Thunder have acted within their lease rights ..... the Clippers are builidng a new arena as we speak .. . No one said the Thunder aren't. The unspoken veto rights over other potential sports and entertainment options and the willingness of city government to be dictated to is. Dob Hooligan 11-22-2022, 12:09 PM I think the sports world continues to change, and what was okay 10-15 years ago no longer is. MLB, NBA and NHL have decided there is real benefit to owning and controlling their minor league systems. MLB took over MILB and are removing more and more of the independent owners and operators. The players union had expanded to represent the minor league players. both of those developments are impacting stadium control and playing field expectations. Also, I think the Bricktown Ballpark has always been operated as a baseball first facility, with controlling tenant rights given to AAA baseball and their team. I think the OKC Dodgers are the stadium operator and give a rent payment to the City. I don't think the Dodgers are gonna share space in season (or out) with a tenant who will cover the infield, remove the pitchers mound and put bleachers on the field. I think USLC is moving toward not using baseball stadiums and their infield issues. I think the Thunder did not want to share the Chesapeake/Paycom Arena for the first 10 years, and that was a big reason why there were fewer concerts and no hockey. The NHL went to the parent club owning and operating their minor leagues and also moved to a costal concentration model in order to reduce travel costs at the AHL level (AAA). About 70% of AHL teams are either west coast or east coast located. I also think there isn't a strong desire in civic leadership to be a AA town in any sport. Dob Hooligan 11-22-2022, 12:13 PM Currently Cleveland is the only one that Share with an AHL team. San Antonio did until the AHL team recently moved in 2020 to Henderson Nevada. as for the ECHL (AA) Orlando currently shares with the ECHL team the Orlando Solar Bears. I think the DeVos family own both the Orlando Magic and the Solar Bears. Laramie 11-22-2022, 03:13 PM I think the DeVos family own both the Orlando Magic and the Solar Bears. True. . . borchard 11-22-2022, 04:15 PM There's no way the Funks would give up their controlling interests. Oklahoma City wants this stadium as close to the core as possible which will help Bricktown Entertainment as does the NBA Thunder. We need 'Borchard' back on the discussion end of this forum. He knows the history about when we had two teams: Rayo & Energy FC. I'll see if I can contact him. I sent a message to Borchard . . . I have no idea how this is going to all turn out. I really hope that someone steps up to buy the soccer team from Funk and McLaughlin. I'm pretty sure that the city would at least listen if the present owners asked about leasing the ballpark for games. I say this because back in the day, before it all fell apart, Rayo was talking to the city about playing games there. If they really wanted to play they could invest in a modular playing surface like Nexxfield. Rayo, like the Energy, also played on a HS football field with a running track around it. But one of the owners, Sean Jones, bought a Nexxfield playing surface that was laid OVER the football field, stretching onto the running track, making it a regulation-sized pitch. So much water has gone under the bridge at this point. It's sad for me to think about 2104, before all the craziness happened, when 3,000 of us showed up at a parking lot in Bricktown to watch the US play in the World Cup. I really thought THAT was evidence that we would be a huge success if we ever got a team. Looking back now, like I said, it's just sad. Apologies to Laramie, I really don't have a lot to offer to this discussion. We'll see what happens. Laramie 11-22-2022, 07:20 PM I have no idea how this is going to all turn out. I really hope that someone steps up to buy the soccer team from Funk and McLaughlin. I'm pretty sure that the city would at least listen if the present owners asked about leasing the ballpark for games. I say this because back in the day, before it all fell apart, Rayo was talking to the city about playing games there. If they really wanted to play they could invest in a modular playing surface like Nexxfield. Rayo, like the Energy, also played on a HS football field with a running track around it. But one of the owners, Sean Jones, bought a Nexxfield playing surface that was laid OVER the football field, stretching onto the running track, making it a regulation-sized pitch. So much water has gone under the bridge at this point. It's sad for me to think about 2104, before all the craziness happened, when 3,000 of us showed up at a parking lot in Bricktown to watch the US play in the World Cup. I really thought THAT was evidence that we would be a huge success if we ever got a team. Looking back now, like I said, it's just sad. Apologies to Laramie, I really don't have a lot to offer to this discussion. We'll see what happens. IMO the ownership of Rayo would have been a much better fit for soccer. Now Rayo was originally scheduled for the NASL of which the original Tulsa Roughnecks played back in the late 70s and early 80s. Swake and US Rufnex probably have more info on that league since Tulsa was a member. Borchard's illustration below shows that a regulation fix can fit in the ballpark. Chickasaw Bricktown Ballpark https://www.okctalk.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=8138&d=1402590197 much like Tulsa's ONEOK Field could be used for soccer using their mound modifications allowing for leveling the playing surface. Some temporary bleachers in the open space (left 500 seats) could easily put the capacity in the 12,500 - 13,500 range removingthe tarp covered seats. https://www.fctulsa.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/39/2022/02/Public_MovingForward_Seating_Map_FanClubtease_larg e.png How long will the Funks hold on to the USL franchise . . . Our MAPS 4 Stadium isn't scheduled to break ground until 2025, . April in the Plaza 11-22-2022, 09:31 PM It’s pretty unbelievable that the City would tiptoe around the Thunder regarding how the Peak is used on non-Thunder nights. If that’s the case, the Thunder ownership group should be paying for a majority of any new arena. jn1780 11-23-2022, 07:42 AM How many NBA teams share arenas with lower level hockey clubs. There’s a certain cost to support infrastructure, rapid changeover, etc. and maybe the city is not wanting to lose money. This is probably mostly the issue. The city would have to eat the bill on the switch over costs. People thought cox and Paycom arena would both be used. One is now a movie studio. Minor league just isn't enough to the pay the overhead. Dob Hooligan 11-23-2022, 10:53 AM I think the Thunder has released their control over the arena since COVID. I recall reading Paycom arena had had more shows in 2022 than any year in history. I think the Funk's got dealt a bad hand in the hockey experience. The Blazers model was no longer making money, and the AAA plan was the only way forward. But the NHL changed plans after a couple years and OKC was no longer part of the future. amocore 11-23-2022, 11:29 AM I think Hockey had enough chances in OKC. Double A at the paycom then AHL at the COX and both teams are gone. Let s go back to soccer. So, the Funk can keep the team on hiatus advitam eternam ? It would block any other group to put a team together in the metro if so. That would mean no soccer team until the new stadium so at least 7 seasons without a team. Ridiculous ! BoulderSooner 11-23-2022, 11:30 AM I think the Thunder has released their control over the arena since COVID. I recall reading Paycom arena had had more shows in 2022 than any year in history. I think the Funk's got dealt a bad hand in the hockey experience. The Blazers model was no longer making money, and the AAA plan was the only way forward. But the NHL changed plans after a couple years and OKC was no longer part of the future. okc just didn't support minor league hockey when the tickets were not free/almost free .. no matter the quality upgrade .. PaddyShack 11-23-2022, 11:34 AM I think Hockey had enough chances in OKC. Double A at the paycom then AHL at the COX and both teams are gone. Let s go back to soccer. So, the Funk can keep the team on hiatus advitam eternam ? It would block any other group to put a team together in the metro if so. That would mean no soccer team until the new stadium so at least 7 seasons without a team. Ridiculous ! This is the main point of concern for many Energy fans, Funk Jr and Prodigal don't seem willing to even try something temporary during this time... I don't know if the fans could get the USL on our side and force Funk to either sell the franchise or force him to play, I don't think the USL has any such policy in play currently that deals with teams on hiatus. SEMIweather 11-23-2022, 12:02 PM NISA putting a team in OKC or Prodigal selling the Energy are the two best options, IMO. Dob Hooligan 11-23-2022, 12:59 PM Does anyone have any true info about USLC stadium requirements for 2023 and beyond? I don't think Prodigal is the problem in finding a stadium. jedicurt 11-23-2022, 05:06 PM 110yards by 70 yards... and if you include the 2016 rule change, it also much allow for 5,000 fans. The reason people think Prodigal is the problem is that they have known for years, and have done nothing about it. that is why they are the problem, it's almost like they didn't want to find a stadium to play in. much like they didn't really want to make any of the changes that Edmonton asked for in order to keep the Baron here. Dob Hooligan 11-23-2022, 06:33 PM I don't think that's fair. We don't see anyone jumping up to buy the team, or the USLC complaining. No stadium owner claiming that Prodigal walked away from a sweetheart deal on the rent and renovations. The team draws less than 2,000 people a game. And we expect the Funk's to happily lose $2 million dollars a year...IN CASH...for the privilege of being the stewards of "The Sport Of The Furture" in Oklahoma City. Laramie 11-23-2022, 11:49 PM Have they put the team up for sale , , , Prodigal claimed back in 2016 after their big match with Rayo OKC saying they would bring MLS to OKC in 5 to 7 years--what happened with those plans. Prodigal and ADG are exploring sites to build the stadium and are engaged in discussions about long-term strategy, location and design. Initial plans for the stadium call for it to seat 7,000, with the ability to expand to 20,000, the minimum size for a franchise to be considered to earn an expansion team in North America's best soccer league, Major League Soccer (MLS). Link: https://www.oursportscentral.com/services/releases/prodigal-partners-with-adg-to-build-soccer-specific-stadium-in-okc/n-4642371 https://www3.uco.edu/CentralitiesArchive/Home/ShowImage/?name=20211020-0e-a6-61-8a-48e4b16c8e295f75458f94e3_1252x520.jpg The Energy FC could have played in UCO's Wantland Stadium capacity of 10,000. UCO had plans to expand the stadium beyond 20,000 as far back as 2010. Now its Chad Richison Stadium with a seating capacity of 12,000. Would there have been any reason why they couldn't play in Edmond until a stadium is built in OKC. Dob Hooligan 11-24-2022, 02:12 PM I read that the MLS expansion fee is $325 million. They claim to be committed at 35 teams or more. There is no way that makes financial sense. I don’t recall any stories about UCO being offended by Prodigy not accepting their great stadium deal. Jake 11-24-2022, 02:49 PM *doesn’t make any effort to give the fans a good team so less fans show up. “Well can you you blame the owners? Nobody shows up!” Laramie 11-24-2022, 03:21 PM The MLS franchise fee IIRC was $150 million before it rose to the $325 million. You said I don’t recall any stories about UCO being offended by Prodigy not accepting their great stadium deal. Who said UCO offered Prodigy a stadium deal or was offended by Prodigy not taking a deal. What I said: The Energy FC could have played in UCO's Wantland Stadium capacity of 10,000. UCO had plans to expand the stadium beyond 20,000 as far back as 2010. My point was to bring to light that Progidy's time with USL and their eventual goal to reach MLS status didn't pan out. Chances of OKC hosting a USL franchise is slim to none IMO under Funks' ownership, just don't have any hope that USL will be back in OKC anytime before 2027. Much like what happened with the AHL 'AAA' hockey Barons and the IGA tennis classic, every franchise the Funks have acquired eventually failed. BilliamBrasky 06-02-2023, 12:49 PM Sorry to resurrect an old conversation, but is it common in the USL for a team to just lie dormant for 4-5 years? I would really like to see high level pro soccer succeed in OKC, but after the Rayo fiasco and this situation, I don't think we have the right set of people to run a successful soccer franchise. SEMIweather 06-02-2023, 12:58 PM No, in fact it is very uncommon for USL teams to come back at all after any sort of a hiatus. The only thing the Energy have going for them at this point is that there is $41 million of MAPS 4 money allocated for a new soccer stadium, but even still, I simply don't see how they are going to succeed with all of the goodwill that the current owners have squandered. IMO, the only solution that makes sense is for Prodigal to sell their majority stake to another ownership group. The Chickasaws seem most likely to me based on the tea leaves pointing towards the new stadium being built on the FAM/OKANA site. But regardless, I would expect the MAPS 4 Stadium to be last on the priority list for as long as Prodigal continues to own the team. BilliamBrasky 06-02-2023, 01:22 PM It is such an act of bad faith on the part of the ownership group. I agree that I don't think they recover from this. There is no way the city should prioritize the stadium, if Energy FC are the primary tenant and their strategy is to sit on their hands until the stadium is ready. Do the Chickasaws own any sports franchises? That's an interesting thought. amocore 12-07-2023, 10:12 AM One more USL season in the book. Will we see any movement from the Energy FC ownership for the 2024 season or are they in “waiting for the new stadium” mode still ? Pete 12-07-2023, 10:18 AM One more USL season in the book. Will we see any movement from the Energy FC ownership for the 2024 season or are they in “waiting for the new stadium” mode still ? Their line has been they don't have a stadium, so I wouldn't expect anything to change. Jake 07-18-2024, 08:22 AM Looks like a majority interest in the team was sold to Christian Kanady. Interested to see if/how this changes things. Urbanized 07-18-2024, 08:31 AM ^^^^^^^^^^^^ For those who subscribe and would like to read about the sale, here is the reporting being referenced: https://www.oklahoman.com/story/news/2024/07/18/energy-fc-oklahoma-city-soccer-sells-majority-interest-okc-investor/74421960007/ And yes, this will change a lot. Pete 07-18-2024, 08:52 AM Let's just say Kanady has been on my radar for quite a while. Zuplar 07-18-2024, 08:53 AM So is the team going to continue to not play until they finish the stadium? How is that feasible if they aren't even starting until 2026? Dob Hooligan 07-18-2024, 09:06 AM So is the team going to continue to not play until they finish the stadium? How is that feasible if they aren't even starting until 2026? I'm guessing it's either ... A. New financial terms are reached that allow one of the local stadia to expand to Official USL Field Size. B. The USL grants a renewed waiver. C. Team remains in stasis until new stadium is built. Tydude 07-18-2024, 09:17 AM https://www.oklahoman.com/story/news/2024/07/18/energy-fc-oklahoma-city-soccer-sells-majority-interest-okc-investor/74421960007/ New Ownership group bought Energy FC. Prunesmoothie 07-18-2024, 09:31 AM Let's just say Kanady has been on my radar for quite a while. Is that good or bad and who is he? Pete 07-18-2024, 09:35 AM Is that good or bad and who is he? He has quite a track record. And beware of anyone who repeatedly runs to Steve Lackmeyer for puff pieces. Zuplar 07-18-2024, 09:58 AM I'm guessing it's either ... A. New financial terms are reached that allow one of the local stadia to expand to Official USL Field Size. B. The USL grants a renewed waiver. C. Team remains in stasis until new stadium is built. I guess I just sympathize with the fans at how frustrating this must be. I would just be afraid of turning people off permanently. Dob Hooligan 07-18-2024, 11:48 AM I guess I just sympathize with the fans at how frustrating this must be. I would just be afraid of turning people off permanently. I understand. I don't think there is much else that can be done. I think fans will come back eventually. People complain, but they eventually move on. The positive, from a perception standpoint, is that new owners can get a renewed benefit of the doubt. Laramie 07-18-2024, 01:31 PM This would be the perfect time to get it right. 1. New ownership group headed up by Christian Kanady. 2. Phase 1: MAPS 4 stadium initial minimum lower level seating 15,000 seats. 3. Initial stadium investment funds need to be increased from $71 million to $100 million. 4. Phase 2: Upper deck expansion to add 10,000 seats with 25,000 maximum seating capacity. Oklahoma City needs to invest in a MAPS 4 Multipurpose Stadium designed for future expansion capabilities. The new stadium could serve the immediate needs for USL soccer, collegiate Division II football and some high school football games. Total stadium investment $200 million. The upped deck expansion (10,000 seats) and executive suites and amenities could be added at a cost of $100 million. jn1780 07-18-2024, 02:54 PM I guess I just sympathize with the fans at how frustrating this must be. I would just be afraid of turning people off permanently. I would just call it FC placeholder until there is an actual team that has an active lease in a new stadium. Laramie 07-18-2024, 03:11 PM I would just call it FC placeholder until there is an actual team that has an active lease in a new stadium. Does anyone anticipate a new name for USL Oklahoma City franchise. OkieBerto 08-08-2024, 01:10 PM Seasoned sports industry veteran Court Jeske joins Echo (https://echo.global/seasoned-sports-industry-veteran-court-jeske-joins-echo/) CaptDave 08-08-2024, 01:54 PM I'm not sure what prevents them from reaching an agreement with OU to play in Norman for a couple years while the stadium is under construction. The pitch meets USL standards and even though seating capacity isn't 8-10,000; it should be sufficient while getting restarted and rebuilding the fan base even if the drive to Norman from OKC and Edmond would be too far to drive for some people. |