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Just the facts 02-18-2014, 03:34 PM It won't "go broke", we'll just borrow more money from China to cover the fraudsters.
So then what is the big deal? I mean, it isn't like we are ever going to pay off the national debt anyhow, so really, every dollar we don't borrow is a missed opportunity lost forever. Borrowing from China would only be a bad idea if you think we intend to ever pay them back. This just in - we don't have enough money to pay back what we already owe so China gives us a bailout every year; we just don't call it a bailout so we can make fun of Spain and Greece and feel better about ourselves.
ctchandler 02-18-2014, 04:20 PM JTF,
I know your comment wasn't personal, but just to let you know, scooters are not easy to come by, I am disabled and have received nothing extra from Medicare because I was older than 65 and already on Medicare. I also have a need for a scooter. After finding out how difficult it was to qualify for one (they have no interest in your mobility outside of the home, just if you fall or can't walk inside the home) I went to Veazey's on Wilshire and bought one for $875 of my money.That's why Hoveround is in bankruptcy, Medicare cracked down on them. I know that my late wife was on Medicare disability and was subject to examination, but she died before they had to follow up. Even if they had, it would have been obvious that she was still disabled. Dr. No (Coburn) is correct though, they could do a lot and save a lot of money if the laws were applied equally around the country. Sorry, I'm a little off topic but your remark caught my eye.
C. T.
Meanwhile, down at the scooter store....
MadMonk 02-18-2014, 04:38 PM I say we keep borrowing from China until we make them go broke. :)
Then we could have a global reset where all debt is forgiven and we start this crazy Monopoly game all over again.
Just the facts 02-18-2014, 06:10 PM I say we keep borrowing from China until we make them go broke. :)
Then we could have a global reset where all debt is forgiven and we start this crazy Monopoly game all over again.
The only problem with that plan is that we (and most of the world) have debt-based currency. If we forgive all the debts there will be no money to start over with.
ljbab728 02-18-2014, 10:45 PM UMMMM, what was this thread about again? :)
Prunepicker 02-18-2014, 10:51 PM JTF,
... I went to Veazey's on Wilshire and bought one for $875 of my money.
C. T.
Were you using a scooter on Saturday? I know you were on oxygen.
ctchandler 02-19-2014, 11:21 AM PP,
Only if I am walking a lot, like when we visited the Oklahoma City Bombing Memorial. I have to stop and rest (sit down if possible) after about fifty feet. I currently put it in the trunk, a real pain, but am looking at the class III hitch carrier with a drive on ramp.
C. T.
Were you using a scooter on Saturday? I know you were on oxygen.
Sorry Ljbab, I should have pm'd this to PP. Back to subject!
OKCisOK4me 02-19-2014, 11:25 AM Three days.
I just started a new job after previously being employed with the same company for almost 12 years.
Bellaboo 02-19-2014, 12:24 PM The last 30 years in IT.
Currently almost 5 years
1 year off
23 years
2 years
2 years
5 years
5 years
zookeeper 02-19-2014, 06:51 PM The last time I worked for someone besides myself I had 5 weeks of vacation - of which I was lucky to take 2 weeks of it. For those with lots of vacation time how much of it do you actually get to use? Like I said, I got to use 2 of my 5 weeks and a lot of people I work with now never get to use their full allotment.
This is an excellent point. It's not only about how much vacation you actually have to use, it's how much you actually do use - and the unwritten, but very clear, rule in many a workplace that you better not use all that time. After all, who does that? Slacker.
Really, great point and it needs to be talked about more often.
Off topic, but not really...It's also another symptom of the balance between labor and capital and how far it has tipped in favor of capital. There was a time when (now almost quaint in the private sector) collective bargaining agreements were settled by labor on one side of the table and capital on the other - all that was set in stone, on paper, and by golly - you not only had vacation time, you actually got it.
Easy180 02-19-2014, 07:43 PM This is an excellent point. It's not only about how much vacation you actually have to use, it's how much you actually do use - and the unwritten, but very clear, rule in many a workplace that you better not use all that time. After all, who does that? Slacker.
Really, great point and it needs to be talked about more often.
Off topic, but not really...It's also another symptom of the balance between labor and capital and how far it has tipped in favor of capital. There was a time when (now almost quaint in the private sector) collective bargaining agreements were settled by labor on one side of the table and capital on the other - all that was set in stone, on paper, and by golly - you not only had vacation time, you actually got it.
Yup. There is a stigma attached to actually using the benefits you work your damn ass off for...Gotta love it
JohnnyW 02-19-2014, 10:16 PM I have the vacation time and use it very liberally. In fact I used nearly all of it last year because it is earned and meant to be used. I couldn't care what culture a company was trying to maintain. Other people can try to keep up that appearance but I pride myself in my work and that should be what my merits are based upon.
Jeepnokc 02-23-2014, 06:14 PM I have the vacation time and use it very liberally. In fact I used nearly all of it last year because it is earned and meant to be used. I couldn't care what culture a company was trying to maintain. Other people can try to keep up that appearance but I pride myself in my work and that should be what my merits are based upon.
Great post. As an employer, I require my staff to take a vacation each year. Employees come back refreshed and with much better frame of minds. A well adjusted and happy employee is more productive than one that is burned out and feels they can't take any time off.
Easy180 02-23-2014, 06:19 PM Great post. As an employer, I require my staff to take a vacation each year. Employees come back refreshed and with much better frame of minds. A well adjusted and happy employee is more productive than one that is burned out and feels they can't take any time off.
Never had an employer give me any flak over vacation...Now taking a sick day here and there was like WWIII with one of my long term managers...My or my kids illnesses just never seemed to land on a "good" day lol
RadicalModerate 02-23-2014, 08:21 PM Never had an employer give me any flak over vacation...Now taking a sick day here and there was like WWIII with one of my long term managers...My or my kids illnesses just never seemed to land on a "good" day lol
If Unions still existed in this Modern Technological Age, would a negotiating point be the cost of making a phone call to a Vacationer and would it be factored into a Job Description/Labor Contract? For example: Taking a business related call, while "on vacation" means the Company/Employer has to pay you an extra [X] dollars per minute as a Vacation Violation Bonus. If you receive more than three calls, in addition to the Bonus, you get an extra day of Vacation.
If Managers have already been transformed into CyberSerfs . . .
this would seem to be the "natural" progression of things for the rest of us . . .
(wouldn't it?)
Prunepicker 02-23-2014, 08:45 PM I've been with my part time employer for a few years.
We can come to work whenever we need.
If we have an appointment or other business we can take off.
He provides lunch once a month and we don't clock out.
The owner (boss) often visits with us and knows us by name.
If we're dong something special for him he'll take us to lunch.
All we have to do is meet the deadline. He honestly loves everyone that works
for him.
How can you not want to do your best for someone like our boss?
Nobody is paid minimum wage. Nobody. He's not a fan of the minimum
wage.
fromdust 02-23-2014, 09:29 PM 3 yrs with this employer. Average 110 hours of work a rotation. 120 hours of vacation a year.
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