Just on WWLS

Traber just said that Mike Gundy is losing his mind
Traber said Gundy is doing his best to make people mad
Traber said he is blowing off the entire media
Traber says this is really, really bad for OSU football.

Traber has a feeling that this is the last year that Gundy will coach at OSU. May go to Florida
Traber said people at OSU are mad at Mike Gundy.

Traber indicates that Gundy is basically sabotaging his own program
Gundy is out to alienate

Traber said that Mike Gundy doesn’t want to be the coach at OSU



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Traber's poor health has really turned him quite bitter here lately. He's always had a bit of a caustic side but anymore he's insufferable. Poor health can do that to you. Sad case.

Traber's poor health has really turned him quite bitter here lately. He's always had a bit of a caustic side but anymore he's insufferable. Poor health can do that to you. Sad case.

Yeah, but I don't think today's rant was because of his "poor health." I think he's just echoing the sentiments of apparently more than a few folks who are observing the peculiar status that is OSU athletics right now. More than one local sports writer has pointed out Gundy's chafed relationship with the media. I tend to agree with Traber's observation that something behind the scenes is going on up at OSU that's made the situation what it is. There's just no point - none - in canceling a spring game. That's a fan thing, a rite of passage every year, an off-season "party" if you will, and there's simply no PR "plus" to canceling it - but LOTS of negatives.

I don't think its an unusual or stretched conclusion to observe something goofy is going on at OSU. I personally suspect its Holder, and as it pertains to Gundy, I suspect it has to do with Ford getting a ten-year contract for doing essentially nothing (so far), while Gundy has won them a Big 12 title in Boone's favorite sport. I think nerves, personalities, emotions, and feelings are raw now. Perhaps bridges are burned. Who knows.

Anyway, I think something is going on, and I don't think Traber's observations are that out of line. Don't know if I'm ready to agree that Gundy is "gone" after this year - but would it shock me? Nope. To say the OSU athletic dept right now is dysfunctional is to be generous.

There's just no point - none - in canceling a spring game. That's a fan thing, a rite of passage every year, an off-season "party" if you will, and there's simply no PR "plus" to canceling it - but LOTS of negatives.

Hrmm. I don't know their reason for the change, but with them doing the "Orange Blitz" in place of the game, it's more of a shift than a cancellation. You still get the fan interaction, off-season "party" that you got from the game.

Hrmm. I don't know their reason for the change, but with them doing the "Orange Blitz" in place of the game, it's more of a shift than a cancellation. You still get the fan interaction, off-season "party" that you got from the game.

I suppose, but the "Spring Scrimmage" just doesn't have the same ring to it. Fans like the notion of an off-season game even if they all know it isn't "real." what's the point in taking it away except to kinda thumb your nose at the fans?

LIke I said, there's no upside to cancellng the spring game for anyone.

I imagine Gundy thinks there is for him. It avoids the "Quarterback" and other debates that he seems to dislike so much.

Yeah, but I don't think today's rant was because of his "poor health." I think he's just echoing the sentiments of apparently more than a few folks who are observing the peculiar status that is OSU athletics right now. More than one local sports writer has pointed out Gundy's chafed relationship with the media. I tend to agree with Traber's observation that something behind the scenes is going on up at OSU that's made the situation what it is. There's just no point - none - in canceling a spring game. That's a fan thing, a rite of passage every year, an off-season "party" if you will, and there's simply no PR "plus" to canceling it - but LOTS of negatives.

I don't think its an unusual or stretched conclusion to observe something goofy is going on at OSU. I personally suspect its Holder, and as it pertains to Gundy, I suspect it has to do with Ford getting a ten-year contract for doing essentially nothing (so far), while Gundy has won them a Big 12 title in Boone's favorite sport. I think nerves, personalities, emotions, and feelings are raw now. Perhaps bridges are burned. Who knows.

Anyway, I think something is going on, and I don't think Traber's observations are that out of line. Don't know if I'm ready to agree that Gundy is "gone" after this year - but would it shock me? Nope. To say the OSU athletic dept right now is dysfunctional is to be generous.This^

It's probably fair to say that Traber and the rest of media knows a lot more than they are telling?
I have heard rumors from Stillwater based sources about Gundy that the local media wouldn’t dare touch at this point.
The media has probably heard some of the same things.

I'm sorry hold up - Traber said something? Gundy is annoyed? I'm confused what are we talking about and where is the proof?

I don't want to pre judge but this just seems like more stuff invented from crazy Sooner land.

It's always rumors, innuendos, and "insider sources" with no proof, links, and that never seem to turn out true... same old, same old.

I do think Gundy is annoyed, but that's like saying it's wet when it rains...

At least sooner fans aren't making mountains out of mole hills...

I'm sorry hold up - Traber said something? Gundy is annoyed? I'm confused what are we talking about and where is the proof?

I don't want to pre judge but this just seems like more stuff invented from crazy Sooner land.

Okay, for clarity's sake:

Traber went on his show today and said that he predicted this would be Gundy's last season as coach at OSU. He said that was pure speculation/guess on his part - no insider info. He said the prediction was based on nothing more than his observation that Gundy, in the last few months, has apparently alienated several groups within OSU and in the related media circle(s). This isn't unsubstantiated; Barry Tramel in a recent online chat offered a similar sentiment re Gundy and the media a few days ago. Gundy held no LOI signing day presser, and apparently still has a bone of contention with Mike Holder going back to his recent contract negotiations. Now he cancels the spring game. I think, individually, none of these things amount to a hill of beans, but taken together, it hardly seems like what a coach getting his program "out there" and being "talked about" would normally do.

So, that's what's out there - not made up, and I think my posting history wouldn't suggest I've ever been prone to just ragging on OSU for its own sake. The Travis Ford situation, the buyout, T. Boone's (lack of?) willingness to write the buyout check, Gundy's testy flirtation with Tennessee last year, the time it took for OSU to get rid of Frank Anderson as baseball coach...just lots of things just might make the casual observer suspect things are just a little strained in the AD's office right now. If that's not the case, so be it, that's cool..ultimately, I was just adding on (and generally agreeing with) this thread someone started with the suggestion that Ford and Holder should be fired, but if nothing's wrong, and its just us Sooners making stuff up, well, alrighty then.... :)

First of all you have to recognize that common sense in this sports forum often gets shouted over by ou48a, Laramie, and other OU fans who are legitimately obsessed w OSU. Did you hear that OSU still receives some modicum of state appropriations??? The Traber stuff just sounds like something of that ilk. I'm pretty sure every year Traber has predicted Gundy will be fired so this must be the first yea re has changed that predication. Gundy and the media have never been exactly on the same page.

The Orange Blitz does seem stupid, but his LOI presser was scheduled for the day after, which doesn't seem significant. Gundy would obviously love to get away w running his program inside a fortress which will never happen, but the problem is that each side of this debate want to be publicly accessible in different ways. It's unfortunate that the middle ground is found between Gundy/Holder/Boone/Tramel/etc in this debate in the least accessible ways (ie, posh press box, limited media access to players, extreme ticket prices) all of which placate one party but together form a strong wedge against the public.

To me, Gundy's constant drive to limit media access strikes me as a coach proactively asserting institutional control. To me that's not just relieving but also gives the appearance of Gundy settling in and looking long term. Coaches who plan to leave (Les) tend to not care as much about NCAA compliance.

First of all you have to recognize that common sense in this sports forum often gets shouted over by ou48a, Laramie, and other OU fans who are legitimately obsessed w OSU. Did you hear that OSU still receives some modicum of state appropriations??? The Traber stuff just sounds like something of that ilk. I'm pretty sure every year Traber has predicted Gundy will be fired so this must be the first yea re has changed that predication. Gundy and the media have never been exactly on the same page.

The Orange Blitz does seem stupid, but his LOI presser was scheduled for the day after, which doesn't seem significant. Gundy would obviously love to get away w running his program inside a fortress which will never happen, but the problem is that each side of this debate want to be publicly accessible in different ways. It's unfortunate that the middle ground is found between Gundy/Holder/Boone/Tramel/etc in this debate in the least accessible ways (ie, posh press box, limited media access to players, extreme ticket prices) all of which placate one party but together form a strong wedge against the public.

To me, Gundy's constant drive to limit media access strikes me as a coach proactively asserting institutional control. To me that's not just relieving but also gives the appearance of Gundy settling in and looking long term. Coaches who plan to leave (Les) tend to not care as much about NCAA compliance.
You appear to be someone who shouts over and is legitimately obsessed with OU fans.

First of all you have to recognize that common sense in this sports forum often gets shouted over by ou48a, Laramie, and other OU fans who are legitimately obsessed w OSU. Did you hear that OSU still receives some modicum of state appropriations??? The Traber stuff just sounds like something of that ilk. I'm pretty sure every year Traber has predicted Gundy will be fired so this must be the first yea re has changed that predication. Gundy and the media have never been exactly on the same page.

The Orange Blitz does seem stupid, but his LOI presser was scheduled for the day after, which doesn't seem significant. Gundy would obviously love to get away w running his program inside a fortress which will never happen, but the problem is that each side of this debate want to be publicly accessible in different ways. It's unfortunate that the middle ground is found between Gundy/Holder/Boone/Tramel/etc in this debate in the least accessible ways (ie, posh press box, limited media access to players, extreme ticket prices) all of which placate one party but together form a strong wedge against the public.

To me, Gundy's constant drive to limit media access strikes me as a coach proactively asserting institutional control. To me that's not just relieving but also gives the appearance of Gundy settling in and looking long term. Coaches who plan to leave (Les) tend to not care as much about NCAA compliance.
Spartan you are literally out of touch and behind the curve with many things, including what's going on in Stillwater.
I don't know what going to happen but as always on a case like this there is a lot more going on than what been reported. I'm told the poke Governor has become concerned

But as usual your comprehension is low.... Traber has never once said that Gundy should be fired.
Everything Traber said about Gundy was his feelings / opinion. If you object call him today.

You appear to be someone who shouts over and is legitimately obsessed with OU fans.

Really? Then why do you OU fans keep stalking/obsessing over OSU threads?

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I thought the Oklahoma media didnt bash OSU?


Up until about 3 weeks ago the local sport media had been ignoring what's wrong with Gundy and osu football, basically giving them a free pass..... Tramel indicated as much by indicating that Gundy had received favorable media treatment for many years...
He basically indicated that Gundy was a local media darling.

Until recently its been entirely accurate to say that osu football has not revived significant scrutiny from the local press....
Had it been, I doubt that we would have seen the SI articles written about osu.

You should be a fantasy writer. You seem to draw these wild conclusions from generic quotes.

It's been an unhealthy situation at OSU that was swept under the rug for many years. I have had more than a few private conversations with members of the local sports media about this topic going back well over a decade. Most of the local sport media have known about many bad things at osu well before they were every made public.

But what's more than clear now is that Gundy has made the local media mad, things have changed... and osu's chickens are finally coming home to roost even with the local media and it won't be pretty, specifically for those osu fans who have been living in the dark or who have been in denial about how osu football has been operated.

And the tooth fairy, and unicorns, and santa claus!

My, my, how this discussion has degenerated... and veered so very far off-topic.

My, my, how this discussion has degenerated... and veered so very far off-topic.

Oh well,,,,,,,, you know!

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And the stalking continues...

Oh well,,,,,,,, you know!

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funny stuff

He quotes himself. What a joke. It is sort of really sad and pathetic. I guess we should all feel for him and his mental disorder.

He quotes himself. What a joke. It is sort of really sad and pathetic. I guess we should all feel for him and his mental disorder.

Calling someone not only sad and pathetic, but also having a mental disorder, is a sign of being a troll, and quite frankly, not a very good person. Do you have a low self esteem?

I'm pretty good. What about you? Call for any race riots or vigilante actions lately? Like I said, he quoted himself to laugh, which is kind of sad, care to dispute?

No, I forgot who I'm talking to.

I'm pretty good. What about you? Call for any race riots or vigilante actions lately? Like I said, he quoted himself to laugh, which is kind of sad, care to dispute?

No, I forgot who I'm talking to.

You are saying someone is sad, pathetic, and that he has a mental disorder. All because you are an osu fan and he's an ou fan. Quit trolling.

It's an OSU thread. I'd say the only ones trolling are you and the other OU fans.

You're pretty much set your low own bar. Which is typical for you. Nothing new. Pathetic.

It's an OSU thread. I'd say the only ones trolling are you and the other OU fans.

You're pretty much set your low own bar. Which is typical for you. Nothing new. Pathetic.

Lol. Why are you so angry that you will call people sad, pathetic, and have mental disorders? Maybe it's you that has the problem. Hmmmmmm.

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Why so trolling, troll? You are pretty sad.

Spartan you are literally out of touch and behind the curve with many things, including what's going on in Stillwater.
I don't know what going to happen but as always on a case like this there is a lot more going on than what been reported. I'm told the poke Governor has become concerned

But as usual your comprehension is low.... Traber has never once said that Gundy should be fired.
Everything Traber said about Gundy was his feelings / opinion. If you object call him today.

Lol I don't have time to call a talk radio show bc I'm too busy having a life.

A life? You mean other than stalking OSU?

Yeah priorities like you know, friends, family, stalking OU's rival..

Well, guys, this thread has obviously derailed. All I'd like to offer is that I did not intend to arbitrarily bash OSU...I honestly was trying to add some thought to the discussion. Sorry if it is perceived that I stoked the fires. I just wanted to talk the sports issues, not start a fight. Think OSU has some interesting years ahead in the "non-football" sports with T. Boone at the helm, but I guess we'll see.

Again, didn't mean to stoke any fires. Just wanted to talk the sports issues, but that doesn't seem to have been in the offing. * sigh *

Well, guys, this thread has obviously derailed. All I'd like to offer is that I did not intend to arbitrarily bash OSU...I honestly was trying to add some thought to the discussion. Sorry if it is perceived that I stoked the fires. I just wanted to talk the sports issues, not start a fight. Think OSU has some interesting years ahead in the "non-football" sports with T. Boone at the helm, but I guess we'll see.

Again, didn't mean to stoke any fires. Just wanted to talk the sports issues, but that doesn't seem to have been in the offing. * sigh *

Totally agree. You have to understand there is a "little brother" syndrome with osu fans. I used to not think there was, but recently I've discovered it does exist....... Without a doubt.

It is what it is.

Totally agree. You have to understand there is a "little brother" syndrome with osu fans. I used to not think there was, but recently I've discovered it does exist....... Without a doubt.

It is what it is.

I think this is what is called "stoking the fires."

Well, guys, this thread has obviously derailed. All I'd like to offer is that I did not intend to arbitrarily bash OSU...I honestly was trying to add some thought to the discussion. Sorry if it is perceived that I stoked the fires. I just wanted to talk the sports issues, not start a fight. Think OSU has some interesting years ahead in the "non-football" sports with T. Boone at the helm, but I guess we'll see.

Again, didn't mean to stoke any fires. Just wanted to talk the sports issues, but that doesn't seem to have been in the offing. * sigh *


Your contribution is fine. OU84A and OKCBOOMER and such are just pathetic, silly, loser, trolls, and don't add anything. They just really invoke some sad sympathy, because really... these OU fans need help with their OSU obsession...

It's kind of sad if you think about it. But OKCBOOMER is a total loser anyways, so no surprise there.

Calling someone not only sad and pathetic, but also having a mental disorder, is a sign of being a troll, and quite frankly, not a very good person. Do you have a low self esteem?

I haven't paid any attention to Jerrywall in many months.... I put him on ignore for telling blatant lies on a totally different issue. Besides the lies he was belligerent. He can't handle opinions and facts that are different from his own..... It's clear that he has some pretty serious character issues. I suggest that you don't waste your time.

The pokes little brother syndrome is very real. It's largely an function of low self esteem. It's what cause more than a few poke fans to spit on and throw things at OU personnel and to resort to quick use of personal attacks.... It's because that's all most of them know.

Because OU maintains lily white purity.....not.

OU releases list of self-reported NCAA violations | News OK (http://newsok.com/ou-releases-list-of-self-reported-ncaa-violations/article/3934985)

OSU too: Oklahoma State releases list of self-reported minor NCAA violations | News OK (http://newsok.com/oklahoma-state-releases-list-of-self-reported-ncaa-violations/article/3934950)

Looks like both schools occasionally run afoul of NCAA rules. But I do get a chuckle from the homers who seem to have some sort of pathological need for their school to be better. Grown men fussing and arguing over kids carrying a ball across a line on the ground is pretty stupid.

Totally agree. You have to understand there is a "little brother" syndrome with osu fans. I used to not think there was, but recently I've discovered it does exist....... Without a doubt.
It is what it is.I grew up surrounded by the pokes in the 60's and 70's to be in denial about the existence of (PLBS) Poke Little Brother Syndrome is to not understand the reality of the situation.

Without doubt it exist and it exist probably to a much lesser extent with KU- KSU....... Texas- TEXAS A&M..... Michigan state and Michigan and at lot of other places.

But I do get a chuckle from the homers who seem to have some sort of pathological need for their school to be better. Grown men fussing and arguing over kids carrying a ball across a line on the ground is pretty stupid.

This!!!! Times 1000. No matter the fan base, no matter the school: when you let college sports consume you, you're letting events relying on 18-22 year olds define you.

This!!!! Times 1000. No matter the fan base, no matter the school: when you let college sports consume you, you're letting events relying on 18-22 year olds define you.
LOL....That's a worn out old line that poke fans always think they can fall back on when times get hard for them.

PS: CaptDave is the only other person I have on ignore...He has also told lies in a blatant way.

This!!!! Times 1000. No matter the fan base, no matter the school: when you let college sports consume you, you're letting events relying on 18-22 year olds define you.

I agree. Since going to school at OU in the late 60's I have always been a huge fan. I remember not being able to sleep the night before going to the "Game of the Century" against Nebraska. I have certainly mellowed out a lot since then. I am still a fan and want them to win and contend for championships but I'm not consumed about it like many OU fans are.

LOL....That's a worn out old line that poke fans always think they can fall back on when times get hard for them.

PS: CaptDave is the only other person I have on ignore...He has also told lies in a blatant way.

Care to provide what in the wide wide world of sports you are referring to?
Oh well, will simply consider the source.

(And thanks for providing a great illustration of the point I was making.)

Only OU fans could manage to turn an OSU basketball discussion into an OU football is king argument. But, I don't know why I'm surprised. This is why I never venture into this part of okctalk. You get delusional sooner fans trolling threads that have nothing to do with them. Spartan tried to start a rational discussion about the problems OSU basketball is facing, and somehow it has turned into OSU being the little brother. (Which, last time I checked, 51 national championships for OSU is more than OU's 19, but I digress)

ou48a, unless you're going to start providing links to back up your claims, please stop. You're adding nothing to this discussion. If you would like to talk about Travis Ford and OSU basketball as a whole, I would be more than happy to do that.

I agree. Since going to school at OU in the late 60's I have always been a huge fan. I remember not being able to sleep the night before going to the "Game of the Century" against Nebraska. I have certainly mellowed out a lot since then. I am still a fan and want them to win and contend for championships but I'm not consumed about it like many OU fans are.

I don't know what purpose this post serves other than a proclamation that you went to OU (congrats I guess, definitely a school I respect) and to further us down the discussion of sports insanity. That isn't the topic. This thread was intended to be a reasonable discussion about how to fix the shambles of what used to be an alright basketball school.

look... this discussion is getting way too personal. let's quit discussing each other and stick to discussing the topic. -M

Your contribution is fine. OU84A and OKCBOOMER and such are just pathetic, silly, loser, trolls, and don't add anything. They just really invoke some sad sympathy, because really... these OU fans need help with their OSU obsession...

It's kind of sad if you think about it. But OKCBOOMER is a total loser anyways, so no surprise there.

Step away from the computer, take a deep breath, and calm down. Try to get some help for your anger issues.

Try to get some help for your anger issues.

great job ignoring what i just said... this post received an infraction. seriously, folks. stick to topic instead of taunting each other. -M

Rumors have it that Ford is negotiating a buy out with OSU?
Sounds like there could be a tell all lawsuite in the works if they can't come to an agreement.
osu can't afford to go on the cheap here unless they are willing to hear everyone spill the beans on the pokes when a lot of poke insiders would be put under oath.

Rumors have it that Ford is negotiating a buy out with OSU?
Sounds like there could be a tell all lawsuite in the works if they can't come to an agreement.
osu can't afford to go on the cheap here unless they are willing to hear everyone spill the beans on the pokes when a lot of poke insiders would be put under oath.

Source?

I'd also like to know your source.

Source?

Private conversation yesterday at OU with people who know well connected OSU people.


That's why I said it was a rumor... Take it or leave it... I don't care ;)

Rumors have it that Ford is negotiating a buy out with OSU?
Sounds like there could be a tell all lawsuite in the works if they can't come to an agreement.
osu can't afford to go on the cheap here unless they are willing to hear everyone spill the beans on the pokes when a lot of poke insiders would be put under oath.

For once I would love for your "rumors" to be true but I'm not even as hopeful as you seem...

Oh wait your source is the OU bubble... Or OSU Stalkers Anonymous

Hmmmm. Have a hard time seeing the point from Ford's side.

That is, I'm trying to see where OSU would have much leverage assuming the details of the buyout clause are as most of us believe them to be. From Ford's perspective, if he believes he's got a solid eight-figure buyout/termination clause, what would be his reason to negotiate that down even a little? How would Ford benefit from giving away eg $1M, or even $1,000 if its clear OSU would be the one wanting him out?

Heck, let's be honest - if it were me, and I had a contract that said if my employer wanted me gone halfway through a ten-year contract provided they paid me a ton of money, I'd want every penny of it. Not seeing why Ford would give anything away.

If OSU had some sort of real alternate leverage, eg some generic "moral terpitude" or "detrimental conduct" business, they wouldn't be trying to negotiate a buy out. They'd fire him for cause and be done with it.

I'll be curious to see if this buyout talk has any legs to it in the coming hours or days. I'm kinda skeptical right now, but we'll see.

Hmmmm. Have a hard time seeing the point from Ford's side.

That is, I'm trying to see where OSU would have much leverage assuming the details of the buyout clause are as most of us believe them to be. From Ford's perspective, if he believes he's got a solid eight-figure buyout/termination clause, what would be his reason to negotiate that down even a little? How would Ford benefit from giving away eg $1M, or even $1,000 if its clear OSU would be the one wanting him out?

Heck, let's be honest - if it were me, and I had a contract that said if my employer wanted me gone halfway through a ten-year contract provided they paid me a ton of money, I'd want every penny of it. Not seeing why Ford would give anything away.

If OSU had some sort of real alternate leverage, eg some generic "moral terpitude" or "detrimental conduct" business, they wouldn't be trying to negotiate a buy out. They'd fire him for cause and be done with it.

I'll be curious to see if this buyout talk has any legs to it in the coming hours or days. I'm kinda skeptical right now, but we'll see.
Supposedly the factor working against Ford is his very low graduation rates that I have previously mentioned. Against that and on Fords side is the prospects of a tell all lawsuit that nobody at osu would dare want coming on the heals of the SI story, investigation and a cloud of other negative publicity.

I think they would probably let him coach out the season but who knows.
But this is just one rumor. I still think there's a chance that Ford could be back next season because of osu's revenue problems

I was curious of it could possibly be, so I googled Travis Ford buyout and I believe I found (with relative ease compared to the off-the-chart absurdity w which I use the term "source") ou48a's "source"

Travis Ford renegotiating buyout? (http://www.landthieves.com/board/showthread.php?69486-Travis-Ford-renegotiating-buyout&p=1653685)

...an OU website where ou48a posts under the same username.

I was curious of it could possibly be, so I googled Travis Ford buyout and I believe I found (with relative ease compared to the off-the-chart absurdity w which I use the term "source") ou48a's "source"

Travis Ford renegotiating buyout? (http://www.landthieves.com/board/showthread.php?69486-Travis-Ford-renegotiating-buyout&p=1653685)

...an OU website where ou48a posts under the same username.

Busted, lol.

I was curious of it could possibly be, so I googled Travis Ford buyout and I believe I found (with relative ease compared to the off-the-chart absurdity w which I use the term "source") ou48a's "source"

Travis Ford renegotiating buyout? (http://www.landthieves.com/board/showthread.php?69486-Travis-Ford-renegotiating-buyout&p=1653685)

...an OU website where ou48a posts under the same username.
That's where I first heard about this 2 days ago..... so before I posted anything about it here I ask people yesterday who I trust very much..... and they said they had heard this too from their Stillwater based sources. That's where its all coming from.

PS: we had a very lengthy conversation about this. There is a lot more being said in private conversations than being posted on message board, or on the radio or in the papers.

PS: + The guy who started that thread has been right about osu many times in the past and has good contacts in Stillwater.

I was curious of it could possibly be, so I googled Travis Ford buyout and I believe I found (with relative ease compared to the off-the-chart absurdity w which I use the term "source") ou48a's "source"

Travis Ford renegotiating buyout? (http://www.landthieves.com/board/showthread.php?69486-Travis-Ford-renegotiating-buyout&p=1653685)

...an OU website where ou48a posts under the same username.

Good line's on that link!

"Desperate to get rid of the Sutton's influence was what I heard."
"i hope he gets an extension..."

"OSU thought they were getting a F-350 dually ...but got an Escort. " LOL

"Ford doesn’t have the guts for a trial.....but if he did it would be fun to watch.
It seems as if OSU is always doing things on the cheap and it comes back to bite them.
Holder may want to retire with in the next 2 years? "

I was curious of it could possibly be, so I googled Travis Ford buyout and I believe I found (with relative ease compared to the off-the-chart absurdity w which I use the term "source") ou48a's "source"

Travis Ford renegotiating buyout? (http://www.landthieves.com/board/showthread.php?69486-Travis-Ford-renegotiating-buyout&p=1653685)

...an OU website where ou48a posts under the same username.

Haha, nice find. Vodnik is an even bigger troll than ou48a. He's been banned from message boards before for being an OSU troll. He's the fan that wants to see OSU lose more than OU win. And contrary to what ou48a believes, no, he has not been right before. Go through his posts on any message board. It's sad, really.

So back to Stoops and the murdering of puppies. I can't believe it.