View Full Version : Impressive, OKC!



betts
01-22-2014, 04:06 PM
The Business Of Basketball - Forbes (http://www.forbes.com/nba-valuations/#page:2_sort:0_direction:asc_search:)

11th most valuable franchise is impressive, but it's a bit of a misnomer as it reflects revenues the preceding year, not what the team would sell for. Still, very nice improvement since the team moved here. But what's really impressive is the fact that we had the NBA's top television ratings last year. For a market the size of ours, that is an amazing statistic.

Pete
01-22-2014, 04:12 PM
Yes, very impressive.

Especially since we were packing the house long before the Thunder became so awesome.


Who would have contemplated all this just 10 years ago??

betts
01-22-2014, 04:21 PM
Thank you Mayor Cornett and Clay Bennett. Thank you Thunder fans!!!!

Easy180
01-22-2014, 06:52 PM
The Business Of Basketball - Forbes (http://www.forbes.com/nba-valuations/#page:2_sort:0_direction:asc_search:)

But what's really impressive is the fact that we had the NBA's top television ratings last year. For a market the size of ours, that is an amazing statistic.

Amazing isn't a strong enough word...Presti is the man

bradh
01-22-2014, 07:58 PM
KD and Russ are must see TV for fans of all teams.

Teo9969
01-23-2014, 01:28 AM
OKC is lucky more than anything else.

I will say this as often as I can until I hear more people openly acknowledging it: Kevin Durant is very likely to be the best player to ever suit up for the Thunder. Talent like his generally comes around once in a generation, and that talent usually ends up in LA or Boston. About half of the NBA franchises have never seen a Top 10 player All-Time in their uniform (and some of the one's who have, only saw said player for a season or two). KD has a chance to be one of those players.

He, Kobe, Duncan, and Lebron bring insane amounts of value to a team just by being under contract with that team.

betts
01-23-2014, 03:36 AM
But there's a LeBron in Miami and a Duncan in San Antonio. There are cities the size of LA and New York that should have the best television ratings by virtue of their size alone. I think it's impressive that we beat these cities even with KD here.

mkjeeves
01-23-2014, 07:21 AM
Thank you Mayor Cornett and Clay Bennett. Thank you Thunder fans!!!!

Taxpayers?

kwhey
01-23-2014, 11:59 AM
Taxpayers?

Exactly MK.

What will be interesting to see is the turnout when the team sucks for an extended period of time, not just one bad season.

Snowman
01-23-2014, 12:16 PM
But there's a LeBron in Miami and a Duncan in San Antonio. There are cities the size of LA and New York that should have the best television ratings by virtue of their size alone. I think it's impressive that we beat these cities even with KD here.

There is an equalizer to city population, bad management. NY has had that problem for a while, it is still a little early to say on LA but so far the Buss children are not doing nearly as well as their father did.

BoulderSooner
01-23-2014, 12:20 PM
But there's a LeBron in Miami and a Duncan in San Antonio. There are cities the size of LA and New York that should have the best television ratings by virtue of their size alone. I think it's impressive that we beat these cities even with KD here.

Ratings do not = number of people watching the game. They are % of TVs in the market.

Far more TVs in NYC watch the Knicks then TVs in Okc watch the thunder.

betts
01-23-2014, 12:45 PM
Thank you taxpayers, many of whom are Thunder fans. And sorry, I thought ratings were numbers, not percentage of numbers. So, nice job OKC but not as impressive as I thought.

shawnw
01-23-2014, 12:49 PM
Ratings do not = number of people watching the game. They are % of TVs in the market.

Far more TVs in NYC watch the Knicks then TVs in Okc watch the thunder.


But it's not "TVs in OKC", right? It's TVs in our "catchment" or whatever it's called? And that was just enlarged/covers a big geographical area and so could actually be quite a lot of TVs, no?

BoulderSooner
01-23-2014, 01:08 PM
Right. And I don't know what our numbers are exactly. But last year we were under 88k but above 22k a night While the Knicks were 230k a night Thunderous finish among NBA local television ratings - SportsBusiness Daily | SportsBusiness Journal | SportsBusiness Daily Global (http://m.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Journal/Issues/2013/04/22/Research-and-Ratings/NBA-RSNs.aspx)

shawnw
01-23-2014, 01:29 PM
Thanks for that info.

Snowman
01-23-2014, 01:29 PM
You would have to be an extremely loyal Knicks fan or rooting for the other team to watch this year :)

shawnw
01-23-2014, 01:38 PM
I would be interested in knowing if there was a measurable spike in Knicks catchment viewers when the Knicks played the Thunder, that could be attributed to Thunder fans in that viewing area...

For example, my sister is a 14-year NYC resident, but she is a Thunder fan, and the only basketball games she has attended in either Brooklyn (where she lives) or Manhattan (where she works) in the last few years have been Thunder@Knicks or Thunder@Nets games (where she proudly wears her Westbrook shirt).

betts
01-23-2014, 01:38 PM
Right. And I don't know what our numbers are exactly. But last year we were under 88k but above 22k a night While the Knicks were 230k a night Thunderous finish among NBA local television ratings - SportsBusiness Daily | SportsBusiness Journal | SportsBusiness Daily Global (http://m.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Journal/Issues/2013/04/22/Research-and-Ratings/NBA-RSNs.aspx)

The article says we"tripled our figure" compared to last year, but there's no specific data.

BoulderSooner
01-23-2014, 01:43 PM
Based on the 8.65 rating number. We averaged in the ball park of 65-70k Viewers on fsok last season

Bellaboo
01-23-2014, 05:30 PM
Based on the 8.65 rating number. We averaged in the ball park of 65-70k Viewers on fsok last season

These figures are also from last season. The en-catchment area that now includes Kansas and Kansas City, and sometimes up to Omaha, just started this season. I look for us to jump even more next year, especially if we make it to the finals.

65 - 70 k viewers ? I'm calling BS on that number, where ever it came from. My brother, who lives in Sedona Arizona, told me they watched the Thunder several games on FoxAz last year.....

BoulderSooner
01-24-2014, 08:25 AM
We are getting a few things confused. This is for local tv ratings. Ie for Okc only. This doesn't even count Tulsa.

And 100% doesn't count any thing on foxaz.

There are 715k +/- TV sets in the Okc metro.

And average 8.65 rating. = the numbers I posted per game.

bluedogok
01-24-2014, 08:34 AM
I would be interested in knowing if there was a measurable spike in Knicks catchment viewers when the Knicks played the Thunder, that could be attributed to Thunder fans in that viewing area...

For example, my sister is a 14-year NYC resident, but she is a Thunder fan, and the only basketball games she has attended in either Brooklyn (where she lives) or Manhattan (where she works) in the last few years have been Thunder@Knicks or Thunder@Nets games (where she proudly wears her Westbrook shirt).
The same here in Denver, the only Nuggets game that I have been to is a Thunder-Nuggets game.