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The property was listed for sale a few years ago. No one wanted it at the asking price. A thriving industry continues to operate on the proeprty. Unlike some other areas in the city, this is not privately held land that is idle and/or rotting away for a day down the road. It's not in anyone's way except the folks who somehow get this notion they have more to say about how a long time property, being used as it has been for decades, is not a good use of the property by the owner.

One might ponder how such folks might react if a Devon or a COOP or some other industry felt the same way about their residential subdivision.

And here I thought we were mostly just discussing the potential uses of the property after someone buys it and the coop moves to the old Firestone plant.

A thriving diverse economy is what we want, but the Mill is just holding up other real estate opportunities from outside sources / investment groups.

This would be perfect for High Tech Research Park / Energy Technologies Center & Corporate Plaza ...etc.

If Tom Ward is "looking" at Midtown and/or Bricktown, why wouldn't he look at this also? ....maybe Tapstone and a couple of his friends could make this an Energy Corp Plaza?

No more corporate campuses please

I hear ya. But the location would be perfect for that. It would be so many new jobs to the downtown distrct and more demand for Mid / High Rise Residential.

I hear ya. But the location would be perfect for that. It would be so many new jobs to the downtown distrct and more demand for Mid / High Rise Residential.

It wouldn't have to be in that location to bring new jobs to downtown.

Has there been any progress on the sale or development of this site since the death of the "Big Casino on COOP Site? (/www.okctalk.com/general-civic-issues/34964-big-casino-co-op-site.html)" thread back in 9-18-13?

The site from Pete's image in Post 11 said thread back on 9-09-2013 :

http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/coop9913.jpg

This 43 acres holds a lot of promise and pitfalls, but for $120 million, who would want to take it on?

There is already a thread about this.

Producers Coop - OKCTalk (http://www.okctalk.com/showwiki.php?title=Producers+Coop&highlight=mill&page=3)

Way to link the thread you're already in, lololol.


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Way to link the thread you're already in, lololol.


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Someone created a new thread, and Pete later moved the posts over to this current thread.

Someone created a new thread, and Pete later moved the posts over to this current thread.

Ahh. Doesn't show up on Tapatalk.


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You know, I think the Anara Tower would be perfect for this location. ...and it could be called "Energy Tower". ...something that iconic in scale & design that makes the world ask "why oklahoma city?" The entire area could be the Energy District and link to the canal.

Anara Tower Facts | CTBUH Skyscraper Database (http://skyscrapercenter.com/dubai/anara-tower/71/)

I want to like it, but I just don't.

http://skyscrapercenter.com/class-image.php/pic.jpg?width=1000&height=800&image=/images/albums/userpics/10005/Anara_Dwg-DubaiView_%28c%29Atkins.jpg

Here is the Turbonomics Tower which I think would be better here

http://www.arthitectural.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/8-640x577.jpg

http://www.arthitectural.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/2-640x640.jpg

http://www.arthitectural.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/4-640x640.jpg

http://www.arthitectural.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/3-640x640.jpg

http://www.arthitectural.com/elliott-associates-architects-turbinomics/

Plu Pan, I like that one too. Very forward thinking and would OKC that identifiable structure. ...and it could reach that height / scale that could be amazin. ... a great idea.

The Anara Tower has several layers and open every 27 stories w/ large terraces w/ open areas. The large turbine on top would be truly amazing. It was scheduled to be 1,969 ft.

I don't think Turbinomics would work. All those moving parts are a recipe for disaster.

I don't think Turbinomics would work. All those moving parts are a recipe for disaster.

And we would probably have Mary Fallin and her buddies in the oil industry passing a tax on the use of wind, like they've done with the sun.

Bwahahaha... breaking wind energy with a tax... we can call it the fart tax.

Had lunch with a friend of mine about a few months ago, he said there is a buyer for this property. I would consider him a reliable source.

http://www.engineeringcivil.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/moon-shaped-skyscraper-1.jpg

http://webecoist.momtastic.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/stairscraper-3.jpg

Well, I suppose the death star as an anchor for the southeast corner of downtown would make for a nice tourist destination.

I vote for the Death Star.

http://www.engineeringcivil.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/moon-shaped-skyscraper-1.jpg I believe they're already building that in Dubai.

Hey a modern Tower of Babylon!


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I noticed that they have installed a scale at the entrance to the old Firestone plant.

Had lunch with a friend of mine about a few months ago, he said there is a buyer for this property. I would consider him a reliable source.

... is this potential buyer looking at the Mill or the Lumber Yard?

Producers Cooperative Oil Mill plans to sell most of its land, but will remain just south of Oklahoma City's Bricktown | News OK (http://newsok.com/producers-cooperative-oil-mill-plans-to-sell-most-of-its-land-but-will-remain-just-south-of-oklahoma-citys-bricktown/article/4850516)

Disappointing.

Well, maybe if we get some nice development around it, they can 'clean up' their property they plan to stay on and remodel their existing facility. I don't really see this as a major problem just depending on how things play out. If they wanted to do something cool and different, they could put the worlds largest cotton candy factory in front :P

I'm not sure of their current practices or if the factory puts out a lot noise and smells bad. If it does, that might be a problem.

Of course the land they will be selling mentioned in the article's title is the land on South Council Road where they were originally planning to move.

This pretty much kills the tower development for The Lumberyard, no developer will want to build luxury condos or apartments next to a smelly industrial factory. I don't understand why they want to stay there, crazy, this kills all potential development in the immediate area. It should be the other way around, they should be scrapping this area, selling the land, and moving all operations to S. Council.

This factory is an eyesore to people traveling on I-40, and will be people first impression for drivers entering downtown on the new boulevard. I'm tired of all the short sighted owners, who don't see the real vision here. Granted they tried to sell the land, but the asking price was way too much. If they were smart, instead of trying to sell all the land at one time, they should have cleaned up the area, and sold it piece by piece.

This factory has no benefit to downtown or Bricktown, its a waste of space and killer of potential developments.

This pretty much kills the tower development for The Lumberyard, no developer will want to build luxury condos or apartments next to a smelly industrial factory. I don't understand why they want to stay there, crazy, this kills all potential development in the immediate area. It should be the other way around, they should be scrapping this area, selling the land, and moving all operations to S. Council.

This factory is an eyesore to people traveling on I-40, and will be people first impression for drivers entering downtown on the new boulevard. I'm tired of all the short sighted owners, who don't see the real vision here. Granted they tried to sell the land, but the asking price was way too much. If they were smart, instead of trying to sell all the land at one time, they should have cleaned up the area, and sold it piece by piece.

This factory has no benefit to downtown or Bricktown, its a waste of space and killer of potential developments.

They are doing what makes sense for them. I can't blame them. It is still disappointing none the less.

No worries, they are only keeping 8 acres which will be easily claimed during some future eminent domain action. Sadly, they are shooting themselves in the foot by selling the land around them while keeping an industrial operation going. They could get so much more money by buying 8 acres somewhere else and moving to it. I'll bet there is a boat load of environmental cleanup that will need to be done on the site as well.

Of course, if their in little noise and no odor or air emissions then there is no reason residential and light industrial can't co-exist, so long as the light industrial adopts good urban development standards.

A lot of people like the Producers Co-op and want it to stay put and think it brings uniqueness to downtown OKC. I disagree but it really doesn't matter what I think. I think what this shows is that the downtown OKC real estate market isn't hot enough where this property is worth enough for them to sell. If this were Austin, it would be valued so high it wouldn't make sense NOT to sell it and developers would be clamoring to get their claim on it. OKC is likely going to need to see the park, convention center, and boulevard completed along with Core 2 Shore well underway before selling will start to become a viable option for them.

They have been asking almost $3 million an acre on a huge contaminated property.

It's probably worth about 1/10th what they've been asking.

When they get realistic about the price, it will sell.

They have been asking almost $3 million an acre on a huge contaminated property.

It's probably worth about 1/10th what they've been asking.

When they get realistic about the price, it will sell.

That is exactly my point. At $3 million an acre, the downtown OKC market will have to be much hotter than it is right now for it to sell. Under the right conditions they could realistically get that for it, but not in 2014. Maybe in 2025.

That is exactly my point. At $3 million an acre, the downtown OKC market will have to be much hotter than it is right now for it to sell. Under the right conditions they could realistically get that for it, but not in 2014. Maybe in 2025.

Not in 2025 either.

It's overpriced by a factor of at least 10. The market is not going to appreciate 1000% in a decade.

No worries, they are only keeping 8 acres which will be easily claimed during some future eminent domain action. Sadly, they are shooting themselves in the foot by selling the land around them while keeping an industrial operation going. They could get so much more money by buying 8 acres somewhere else and moving to it. I'll bet there is a boat load of environmental cleanup that will need to be done on the site as well.

Of course, if their in little noise and no odor or air emissions then there is no reason residential and light industrial can't co-exist, so long as the light industrial adopts good urban development standards.

JTF, I don't think you read the article correctly, they are only keeping 8 acres of the land on S. Council. They are keeping all land south if The Lumberyard .

Seems like the CEO Austin Rodes is backwards on this whole thing. He should be dismantling the plant south of Bricktown, selling that land in 5-10 acre packages at reasonable price points, and moving all operations to S. Council. Seems like he would make more money doing that, it makes sense.

it really doesn't matter what I think.

Finally, something that bchris and I agree on.:Smiley051

They have been asking almost $3 million an acre on a huge contaminated property.

It's probably worth about 1/10th what they've been asking.

When they get realistic about the price, it will sell.

I don't think even then. Any savvy developer would want the public sector to secure an EPA brownfields grant for cleanup like Gary Brooks did with the Steel Yard site.

Biggest eye-sore in DT, outside of Uhual building. Wish they'd just move to council like they we're suppose to do. That land would blossom in a heartbeat! Lumber yard will never develope properly if they don't get rid of the place putting that horrid smell through downtown.

Really sad that they're selling their property on Council Road. Time to plant those rows of trees and try and hide the ugly sucker since it may be there for many years to come. Maybe the trees will also absorb some of the smell as well.

Have to agree with you. There are times when I have driven home late at night on the 40 and have been taken aback by that smell, it is showstopping--not unlike the Purina smell that drifts through Edmond from their factory.

They have been asking almost $3 million an acre on a huge contaminated property.

It's probably worth about 1/10th what they've been asking.

When they get realistic about the price, it will sell.

Pete, I can't find the article. How much per acre did Stage Center sell for?

Pete, I can't find the article. How much per acre did Stage Center sell for?

$4.275 million; about $1.35 million per acre.

I saw that they have their 156 acres on Council listed for $9,513,504.

Is it just me or has this thing been smelling even more awful lately?

Is it just me or has this thing been smelling even more awful lately?

It's been almost unbearable the past week or so. I have to go right past it on my way to and from work. Not exaggerating I almost threw up in my car.

It's probably due to the hot weather and wind patterns (from the south).

Its been much more noticeably worse. Has to be more than just the heat or wind. Its been by far the worst it has ever been.

must be some rotten cotten

Can the city enact a 'smell' ordinance to encourage them to move to the industrial area?

I believe there are sound ordinances, so I wonder if a smell could work. :.

Anybody else noticed they power washed all of the dirt off of their buildings? Its beautiful.

Finally...

Producers Cooperative mill shuts down cotton operation in Oklahoma City | NewsOK.com (http://m.newsok.com/producers-cooperative-mill-shuts-down-cotton-operation-in-oklahoma-city/article/5432122)

That explains why that massive canola processing plant in Enid was never built that I've seen plans for several times over the past few years.

I can't read the whole article yet but the headline says enough. Finally.

This is pretty big news.

Count me in the crowd though that thinks it would be awesome if some components of the mill could be salvaged and used in a future development. I think that'd be pretty awesome.

Yeah I can't read the article yet either, but I'd anticipate they are getting more serious about selling. Perhaps there's a buyer lined up.

Can you guys not watch the video like i can? Great work by Steve here. Says they are moving all operation to their Altus location. They arent going to produce canola oil anymore. The land is for sale. He speculated that the price would be shave by $30-$50 million. They are discussing with Sooner Investments. They could sell the land in parcels instead of the entire thing at once to help attract more buyer. Those were the main points i got from it. Anything else to add?